The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Petrie. on March 25, 2007, 08:17:44 AM
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Discuss the character, Ducky here.
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My thoughts on Ducky...
Her annoying voice and her way of speech. "Oh, no, no, no". But she's the cutie of the gang. That's all.
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Matter of taste I suppose. I'm quite fond of her voice and her individual way of talking. It would be kind of boring to have them all talk the way fellow students do all the time.
There is more to make of her than a mere cutie. No doubt she is meant to be the cutie, but unlike some other movie's cuties she can act on her own without anyone else telling her what to do (examples in LBT 5, 7, and 8) though I will admit that most of the time she prefers following Littlefoot's or Cera's lead.
Interestingly she seems to be a "language talent" being able to give a more complex meaning to the baby talk of Dinah and Dana and the mumbling of her little brother Spike. She is especially helpful (it is difficult for me to imagine any of the others as Spike's surrogate sister or brother).
It is remarkable how sometimes she seems to be quite acrophobic, when crossing logs in LBT 2 (Spike has to carry her) and 6, while on the other hand she is the first to leap across the rocky pillars in LBT 6, which seems much scarier to me than crossing the log in the same movie (Spike too seems to have this temporary fits of acrophobia while he sometimes shows an extreme indifference towards heights, for example when he crosses the LBT 5 log smiling relaxed and with closed eyes).
Ducky is the only one with both parents in the Great Valley, though we didn't get a glimpse of her father (who never played a role) since LBT 5. Maybe this contributes to her being probably the most cheerful of the LBT maincharacters.
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it's also a suggested characteristic of her species, Wiki explains that Saurolophi are seen as the mothering type, so they may go out of their way to help someone (also explaining her just 'taking in' Spike without reason)
Ducky is my fav of the five :)
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that mothertype saurolophus could be... she will also a great mother to i think :birthday
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I think ducky is the cutest character of the gang and I find the way she is talking sooo cute :^.^:
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She is one of my favorites, along with Chomper. Though I can see how some of her dialog others would find annoying, I do not myself.
Isn't Ducky's type related to Maiasaurs , I think the spelling is, translated I think to mean good mother lizards?
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Well, now, I don¥t think so. It¥s just her way she is talking. That makes her different of the others. I think her spelling is good to understand for younger ones, whose are whatching LBT, too. The emotions when she sais Oh yup yup yup or no no no comes better, if you understand what I want to say B)
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Isn't Ducky's type related to Maiasaurs , I think the spelling is, translated I think to mean good mother lizards?
Ducky's kind (she seems to be a Saurolophus) would belong to the family of Hadrosauridae (duck-billed dinosaurs) which includes Maiasaura. Maiasaura indeed means "good mother lizard" while Saurolophus means "reptile crest". We did get a look on a Maiasaura in LBT 6 where Ducky was examining the Maiasaura's nest looking for Dinah and Dana.
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LBT 6? I'll have to look for that scene, curious how they animated them. I knew lots of folks here would know more then I do about Dinosaurs, especially all the correct terms.
Personally I enjoy how Ducky talks, adds to her cuteness, at least in my opinion.
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she's my fav. she has such a cute voice :DD
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All her voice actors have done cute voices, and she is animated cute too.
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Ducky seems to have a great mom, but a not so great dad (assuming he didn't just die or something.). She's gonna make the best mom ever! :D She is tolerant of Spike even though he can be somewhat annoying. She certainly has more patience with him than Cera does. In LBT 7 when Spike ate the vine, Cera was pissed! "Don't ever do that AGAIN!" :lol
I've always liked Ducky and I think she's the one that's usually most appealing to the young kids who watch LBT. Ducky's "yup, yup, yup" is only annoying at times in the tv series. The worst one was the return of the lone dinosaur episode when she said "I am here alone yup, yup, yup". It was so annoying because it was obvious that they didn't put any thought into showing that she was alone, they just made her say it. I mean, why would she have said that except to tell all of us that she was alone? That was a really bad part. I don't find her "yup, yup, yup" to be annoying at any other time.
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Ducky's Mum is an interesting character, but can to a certain degree be described as a "background grownup", a label that could be attached to Petrie's Mum as well. While not just forgotten like the fathers of Ducky and Petrie they are not granted the central position of Cera's Dad and Littlefoot's grandpa (his grandma too is somewhat less central than his grandpa). Ducky's and Petrie's mother were given a somewhat more important role in LBT 7 and in case of Ducky's mum in LBT 8 in that of Petrie's mum in LBT 12. I think that the LBT grownups are especially interesting as they seem to be the generation that was still brought up in a very racist manner (judging from the original movie) but learned to overcome a racism which had not yet "sunk in" as much in the generation of Littlefoot and the others.
I tried to give Ducky's and Petrie's Mum an important role in one LBT story I'm writing. I tried to make Ducky's mum sort of a "different heroine". A character not as aggressive as Cera's dad and possibly not as "wise" as Littlefoot's grandpa, but a kind of heroine way we might expect a grownup Ducky to become when compared to a grownup Littlefoot or Cera. Personally I don't like the idea of letting the LBT characters grow up, but if we are interested in grownup dinosaurs taking a look at the characters parents and grandparents may be really interesting. In spite of the fact that of course they are not their children and grandchildren there may still be some interesting similarities.
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That is one interesting idea that many likely have not explored in any fanfiction yet is writing and having the adults be the main characters.
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Maybe there is not even the need to make the grownups maincharacters at the expense of Littlefoot and the others if only the grownups are given some more important role to play than just that of the "fools" who just talk while the children act (this at least is a common reproach of LBT which cannot be totally refuted in every sequel).
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That is one of the usually weak points of juvenile focused things. The adults are usually done either as somewhat useless for various reasons, inept or other things. Few indeed, that I"ve seen can give the kids certain roles and the adults certain roles where neither end up looking the worst for it.
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"Smallville" does it pretty well. That's the only one that comes to mind.
LBT is definitely not the worst offender of this, though. I agree the average background dinosaur is usually little more than an uneducated armchair-complainer who seems prone to side with Cera's dad on everything from water rations to the luckiness of guest stars, but some of the closer relatives serve multiple purposes. Littlefoot's grandparents are definitely voices of reason, Cera's dad never fails to cause internal strife and heighten the conflict, and Ducky's mom, whenever she has a large part, usually provides cousel for Ducky in times of need.
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Council yes, as long as Cera's dad isn't around then from what I've seen she blindly agrees with him. Though all that and the way Cera's dad is likely at least partially a plot device like I mentioned before. It's one of those things that is best if one tries to ignore it as best as possible.
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I'm sure all the current readers are aware that I have an assessment of her which may as well be merged with this thread any more XD
here it is (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=1504)
It may stay separate I guess because as the series continue there could be more updates, but either way works
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Wow, that's a seriously thought-out assessment, I wish there was more stuff like that around here...
One thing you forgot was the "Escape from the Mysterious Beyond" episode, where Chomper has to comfort and protect Ducky for like 3/4 of the episode while they're on that ledge, untill Littlefoot & co. show up and rescue them both. Also, even though Ducky mentioned wanting to help the trapped velociraptor, it's Chomper that in the end decides to actually do it.
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Part of that may be since she could not talk to the trapped fast biter and could not push any rocks away since she is to little.
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Ah, true that. Still, it would have been nice if it was Ducky who reminded Chomper about the velociraptor or something. She just seemed superficial in the end, being I think the only charater who didn't end up rescuing somebody else in the whole episode.
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The best swimmer around, hands down :D. Ducky has always been my second most favorite character, my first being Cera. She's very kind, devoted to others, sweet, caring, brave and a little too innocent, not to mention being a pushover. She's also very accident prone. I'd cuss out Universal if she ever gets seriously hurt :angry:. Ducky's dark side has now been put out in the open. I think it's great for all to know even the sweetest and most naive folk have flaws like everyone else. Her light side definitely outweighs her faults. Even the way she adopted Spike as a brother is very touching. Like some have been saying, I wish Universal will develop a sequel which mainly focuses on Ducky :yes. She is way too underrated.
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She is a cute character and I think with many folks she'll be in their top 2 characters if not top 3.
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I watched "March of the Sandcreepers" the other week, and I could'nt help but notice just how maternal in nature Ducky already is. She is so sweet, and she's gonna make some lucky batchelor a happy husband and be a great mother at the same time :^.^:!
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I"m sure she will. There may be potential swimmers around for her to date since in some scenes they show several adult swimmers in some shots, and they may have kids.
She does seem very maternal and caring, even back in the first movie as I recall. Though I would need to see it again, I've not see it for a while. A good reason to watch it again.
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Yes... shame I just leant my copy of the original to a friend...
In the original Ducky is the one who "adopts" Spike as a brother and I think that this is an important point. Already she is looking out for others, even if she's never met them before and they're not even the smae species. She had no hesitency about coming up to Littlefoot as well.
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And as she talked to Littlefoot, if I recall correctly, she showed some concern when he didn't talk to her right away.
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She had no hesitency about coming up to Littlefoot as well.
That's just part of who she is. And let's not forget that at the end of the very same movie after reaching the valley her mother didn't raise a single question either. Although it is widely believed that Ducky's species is highly parental and the producers may have taken that into consideration.
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As I recall didn't both of her parents accept Spike with no problems or questions? It may be natural to her kind of dinosaur in the LBT world.
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Ah, true that. Still, it would have been nice if it was Ducky who reminded Chomper about the velociraptor or something. She just seemed superficial in the end, being I think the only charater who didn't end up rescuing somebody else in the whole episode.
I think the only reason why Ducky didn't end up convincing Chomper to do anything during that episode was that Chomper needed to learn on his own what he can or can't do at his current age. The fast biter kept making teasing comments about Chomper being small and unable to help anybody, but in the end Chomper is the one who comes out as the bigger sharptooth by helping him get unstuck from the rocks. This episode most likely sent out the message that evenif you are small you can still do big things, and Chomper needed to learn this on his own, just like Ducky learned in the first episode when she screamed in the Cave of Many Voices to scare Red Claw away.
Overall, Ducky is definitely a loveable character who is the purest form of a child. She always thinks about others before her and is always so kind and gentle. She definitely has a bond with Petrie, always comforting him every time he gets scared.
In my opinion, Ducky also has a dark side hiding underneath her cute innocent nature. The first we saw of this in my opinion was in LBT 8 when she really got mad at Spike after Cera taught her how to be mad (the song was pretty annoying). Then we saw it again in LBT 11 when the others were really pissed off at Littlefoot about the incident with the tiny longnecks. She always seemed to follow the idea that friends should never really get angry or fight with each other, however she ignores this when she yells at Littlefoot. She even becomes a little selfish when she makes the comment that she didn't get a tree sweet (although she countered this with including everybody else in the valley)
The biggest sign of her dark side was definitely in the tv episode "Search for the Sky Color Stones". After searching in the cave for a long time, Cera and Ruby are unable to find any stones because Ducky has already found them all and is keeping them for herself. Since when did Ducky become so greedy? She was even willing to risk her life for the stones when she was hanging on a ledge and all her stones were falling. Although Ducky is 99% the sweetest character of them all, the remaining 1% contains a much more darker side to her.
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My problem with the greedy thing is it does seem to fit Cera's personality more then Ducky's.
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Yes, but this proves that Ducky isn't immune to such emotions, and that it just takes time for them to show in her personality.
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Not only did Ducky keep the stones for herself, but she chose to search for them over helping Spike in his time of need. I'm very disappointed in her for that. -_- At least I can be happy knowing she learned her lesson. Too bad it took a near death for it to happen. -_-
Ducky's mutual side is SO highly developed for her age. It definately showed with all the care and protection she showed for all those crabs. She'll probably make one of the best wife and mother in history when she gets old enough. Whatever guy ends up with her will be quite lucky indeed. :)
Oh, and if she was a human in modern times, she'd probably be spending a good portion of her time helping the poor and homeless. :)
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Oh, and if she was a human in modern times, she'd probably be spending a good portion of her time helping the poor and homeless.
Too true. :lol
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My problem with the greedy thing is it does seem to fit Cera's personality more then Ducky's.
No one is totally immune to having a dark side, and Ducky is proof of this fact. Funny enough, Cera has yet to display that kind of behavior to prove herself greedy. This is not the thread on Cera, but I find it fitting to say the reason I believe Cera is gruffer than Ducky is because her father has made her a perfectionist. She wants to do something right the first time around or it embarrasses her. Back on topic, I'm not surprised about Ducky's dark side. It was a long time coming.
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Oh, and if she was a human in modern times, she'd probably be spending a good portion of her time helping the poor and homeless.
Too true. :lol
Or she would be an Olympic swimmer who donates to charity ;).
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although it may be logical to have that characteristic of a "dark side", perhaps it was a little overdone... I mean... I could understand hoarding more than leaving her brother to.... who knows what could've happened
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Sometimes anyone can made a lot of mistakes because he is upset and ignored. I don't think, that Ducky's "dark side" was shown overstated.
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Dacky is my favorite character. She is very lovely, kind, and her words "yep yep yep" cause the big affection :rolleyes: But sometimes her children's naivety is excessive and irritates. But she is child, and it is pardonable. When i have read here about what Ducky has done in serail i have not believed my eyes. I shall see this episod on Yotube Necessarily. Perhaps character of Ducky develops and becomes not such nurseries? Though it is only my assumption. In any case nothing is faultless, but at least Ducky is more faultless in comparison by others.
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Very wise and smart for one so young, also the rational one of the gang, always wanting to do the right thing. Her speech patterns are a bit annoying, but that's what makes her a unique and interesting character.
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Very wise and smart for one so young, also the rational one of the gang, always wanting to do the right thing.
The rational one? I am not sure I would agree with that one. Personally I perceive Ducky as much more of an emotional character than a rationalist. The two don't exclude each other of course but when a decision between what is rationally / morally the right thing to do (can't think of a good LBT example right now) Ducky is the one I would consider very likely to go for the moral one, in spite of the one episode which showed her other side (an episode I have yet to review (same as many others, but at the moment I really don't find the time and leisure)).
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Befriending a lonely Littlefoot because he looked utterly miserable staring down into the water in the original movie could be a good start to go on, Malte (I'm just throwing it out there).
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That does sound like a good starting spot, and it is a very touching scene, to me at least. Followed by a funny scene.
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in spite of the one episode which showed her other side
Would that be the shiny stones one?
Another emotional desicion was her lashing out at Spike in LBT 8. Had she used rationalization, she would have realized that trying to compete was Trippy (was that his name?) was illogical, since they both could be Spike's friend. (Then she could go out and nerve pinch somebody)
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The sky color stones episode.
And Cera did tell her to remain angry till they groveled.
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Ducky is def one of my fav characters. She's got such a personality. She's always there to help others. She gladly welcomes new dinos into her life. She's an awesome sissy to her siblings and she's the best sister Spike could ever have..
And her voice is something special too.. I love the way she speaks. It's just so cute!!
She's definetly a cutie!!!
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I'm still having a hard time getting over the fact of how brave Ducky is. If she keeps it up, who knows what she'll be able to do once she's all grown up? :)
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She's an awesome sissy to her siblings and she's the best sister Spike could ever have..
Ducky's relationship towards her siblings is actually one thing we learn very, very little about. There is never a speaking sibling of Ducky (referring to the other duckbills, not to Spike). From what little we see of Ducky's siblings in the original movie and LBT 8 it is likely that they get along very well, but I sometimes wonder if there is a chance that her siblings sometimes take it awry that Ducky almost exclusively hangs out with her friends, but hardly ever with them. I thought about one story involving a practically identical looking sibling of Ducky. I think Ducky's family offers a lot of potential for (a) further LBT story(s).
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True, that is one of the reasons I made up Diver as a sister of Ducky's, that and I got the idea from the family song and how often her siblings look exactly like her in some shots.
I assume she spends time playing with her siblings, but it's kept mainly offscreen except for brief scenes, about the same as the appearances of Ducky's father. Though he may spend some time off doing other things as well. Though in Diver's case she has friends she hangs out with as well, and some of Ducky's other siblings may as well.
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I'm still having a hard time getting over the fact of how brave Ducky is. If she keeps it up, who knows what she'll be able to do once she's all grown up? :)
Well, sometimes even the smallest folk can be the most courageous. In addition, she seems to love her friends very much and would do anything to ensure their well-being is optimal :^.^:. As for the part of when she's grown up, perhaps she will know some sweet kung fu and be able to team up with Cera to knock the sharpteeth into the next galaxy :wow.
Ducky: Alright, clear the valley! Here comes kung fu Ducky! Hiiyahh! (POW) Grrrr! (CRACK).
(The fight goes on until the shaprteeth dash off screaming like little girls).
Ducky(to Cera): We did it, yep yep yep! Cera, high-tail! (The two "high-five" with their tails)
Sorry, I could not contain my random humor :bang. The whole "high-tail" sequence is inspired from TMNT III, just so y'all know :lol. Hey! I could have included gopher-chucks; only gophers did not exist yet B).
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Ducky isn't a fighter, and neither is her mother... if danger showed up, I'm sure that she would simply run for the water and swim away, even when is an adult... still... kung-fu Ducky sounds funny...
Adult Kung-fu Ducky: (wears a black belt) All those fans who made fun of me for having big feet will live to regret their words, yup, yup, yup! (kung-fu kick!)
Seriously, though, it is hard to imagine Ducky growing up to be anything but a mother who is at least as good as the one who is raising her in the films...
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still... kung-fu Ducky sounds funny...
Adult Kung-fu Ducky: (wears a black belt) All those fans who made fun of me for having big feet will live to regret their words, yup, yup, yup! (kung-fu kick!)
KUNG FU ACTION DUCKY!!! :lol
Hm, what do I think about this character...well...first of all, she's definitely not one of my top favorites, but I do like her better than Little Foot and Cera. She seems to cast the role as the "underdog", like Petrie. However, her naiveness and her cute personality may come across as her being that "damsel in distress" I mean seriously, think about the times in the sequels where Ducky is almost always in trouble such as the fourth sequel when Ichy and Dill try to capture her and Pterano, Sierra, and Rinkus abduct her in the seventh sequel. The damsel in distress thing is basically the reason why I don't care for her that much :p and her "yep, yep" thing can get a little old :p
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She is the smallest female and females have the roles of damsel very often. Harder for Petrie to fit the role since he is a male and can often fly away unless someone ties him up or something & for Cera to be taken captive and be the damsel who needs rescuing would require several folks and they'd have to be rather strong since she is pretty large and likely to fight and her hits will hurt, unlike if Ducky hits or punches someone. Ruby is in a similar situation, due to her size her punches would hurt more then ducky's and since she is larger someone has to be strong enough to carry her away or have several folks do that.
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Well, unless there is water for her to swim away in, Ducky is indeed nearly helpless to move very fast and she cannot really fight... Ruby can run, Pertie can fly Cera can fight (as can the boys), but Ducky is far less mobile on the ground; she even rides on Spike because she is better designed for swimming than for walking long distances (that's why she has large, webbed feet and a tail.)
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It is true that of the LBT characters Ducky seems to be the most likely to end up in the role of the "damsel in distress". However, they did pretty well in not turning her into a crying, helpless, dependent, desperate creature in LBT 7. She acted in a quite self confident manner there and escaped from the flyers twice without the direct support of her friends. Ducky might also be quite suited to kill captors through kindness so to speak, that is making it impossible for any but the most vicious villain to really do her any harm (who is capturing whom?) :lol
In case of Cera the situation might well be similar. One of the stories I have in mind (and which got sort of debased through the introduction of the Tinysauruses in LBT 11) includes the capture of the LBT characters through a tribe of tiny (little larger than Ducky) Sharpteeth who live hidden in one corner of the Great Valley and pose no real thread to the dinosaurs (very much like Chomper) but whose discovery would probably result in them being chased away (at best) by the grownups. In any case I imagined Cera's capture to be rather ambiguous as for who captured whom there ;)
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Ducky isn't a fighter, and neither is her mother. [...]
Seriously, though, it is hard to imagine Ducky growing up to be anything but a mother who is at least as good as the one who is raising her in the films...
Oops. Subversion in Twilight Valley! Every character gets in on the action... even Ducky! Yep, yep, yep!
Only thing weirder than Kung Fu Ducky is...
Ducky's mother as an Escrima fighter and Ducky as a "Krav Dino" fighter! (See Twilight Valley <link in my sig> for more details)
Seriously though, as much as I think "damsel in distress" is a MAJORLY overused trope, if you have to use that trope, Ducky is perfect.
Cera can't serve that role. She could serve as the "woman warrior" trope. She's quite strong and a dangerous foe against enemies her size. Horn + body part = bad.
Petrie can't serve that role. He's male and is flight-capable.
Ruby can't serve that role (as Kor pointed out, she'd probably punch out her captor! :lol )
At least in LBT 7, Ducky was capable of escaping her captors without assistance (temporarly at least).
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She is smart, and being small does have good points. I'm just glad they do not use the damsel in distress to often as so many others do. It's a very easy plot that writers can do who either do not have the talent or are to lazy to come up with another plot.
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There is at least one case though (Cave of the many Voices) where Ducky is the one saving the others from distress. I agree that more could be done though to make her more than a lovely victim all the time, but I think they are on a right track (e.g. Search for the Sky Color Stones) in making Ducky a bit more complex.
As for "warriors" I really doubt such a motif in the context of the land before time. Unlike humans I take it that most of the dinosaurs fight if they have no alternative and not because they love to fight and cause pain. Of course one might hold Hyp's behavior against this, but I think that was more of bully's brawling rather than anything even remotely connected with human concepts of warfare. I know I belong to a minority with this opinion, but I think that something like a "military tradition" would really spoil the Great Valley rotten.
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I agree, militarism and LBT does not really fit. It seems very few, if any, have made anything like a military or a study of fighting like the martial arts. Some may say Doc has, but he seems more like one who has practiced being able to use his tail very skilfully, and not made a study of using it to battle sharpteeth, hitting their pressure points and the best spots to stun or cause pain.
I like the Cave of Many Voices for that reason. It wasn't the classic Littlefoot saving the day, but Ducky who had a large part, if not the largest part in it. If not for her the others would not have been able to get to the cave to do their part.
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She is smart, and being small does have good points. I'm just glad they do not use the damsel in distress to often as so many others do. It's a very easy plot that writers can do who either do not have the talent or are to lazy to come up with another plot.
well... the underdog is oft similar though...
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Ducky is one of my favorites. She's just so innocent and naive. I don't particularly find her speech annoying, it's just part of who she is.
Her being the damsel in distress is rather unfortunate, but makes sense since he is the smallest and for all those other reasons. (Though they might think twice if she did know kung-fu. :DD )
I wonder if Ducky's species isn't so specist as the other species? Her parents did take in Spike without much question. Though I have only recently watched the first movie and the only others I have are the second, third, fourth, sixth, and seventh, so I don't really remember much about Ducky's parents.
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Ducky makes of her what her size allows, I guess. She is usually honest in what she says.
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Some seem to be non speciest. Ducky's parents and I'd guess Petrie's mother since in the first movie neither one shows disgust or not wanting to travel with Littlefoot, though Littlefoot did show some dislike of Ducky being a non longneck, he lost it pretty quickly though His mother seems to have had this to some degree, though not to the extreme as Threehorn does & I guess her parents didn't have it much ether and likely quickly lost it while traveling with the combined herd. From her brief mention of it it seemed to be more like the separate types had always been separate and didn't mix, not any thing to do with longnecks were better then everyone else.
Also in the tv series Rhett didn't seem to be a speciest. Shorty didn't either and Bron didn't seem to show any, nor did Rooter, nor Mr. Thicknose. It would seem that some are speciest but not everyone is. Many are not.
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As for Ducky, I cannot imagine her to be a speciest... it's rare that she shows any anger at all, and I don't think that she has ever shown hatred... she will be an excellent motherly example to her children one day...
And yes, Malte, I agree that developing a "military tradition" in the Great Valley would be unusual, and might spoil the series. I'd imagine that some dinosaurs would fight (such as the Triceratopses and the Sauropods), but that others would simply run or fly away. As I said earlier, Ducky's kind would probably head for the water and swim away in it, which is probably the safest thing for them to do...
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The Great Valley herds don't really need a military tradition. All of the herds probably have their own tactics for dealing with sharp teeth, just like the animals of today.
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That's right. Some dinosaurs would fight, others would flee. As I said before, Ducky's species would probably instinctively run for the water and swim away in it.
P.S. If I've been posting a lot lately, it is because I want to get to 1,000 posts....
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I agree: the Great Valley doesn't need a military BUT a dose of militarism adds a refreshing and unusual flavor to LBT. I cite: the LBT fan fic War of the Worlds
*Powers up flame shield*
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Yes, well, there have been a few fights in the valley... no fatalities, though. As for Ducky... I can't really imagine her as a fighter...
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One does not need any military tradition for a brawl, even for a brawl for live and death. The closest things to a "battle" were in LBT 3 and LBT 10, but even there I consider the number of participants (as well as some other factors) as insufficient to think of it in military terms.
As for Littlefoot's prejudices against Ducky in the original movie, he seemed to be still depressed from Cera's attitude towards him but felt compelled to imitate her until he realized he would be much happier being himself rather than her.
Sometimes it is funny where threads can move. We started out with Ducky and ended up with the question of "military traditions in the Great Valley" :rolleyes:
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Well, if there were to be a military tradition, Ducky would have little part in it. She might be useful as a messenger if swimming through the water is the fastest route, or she might make a good scout (or bait, as she already did), if she can spy on enemies from the water and make a quick escape. When it comes to the actual fighting, Ducky would be relatively useless and would probably instinctively make a run for the water and swim away in it.
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When it comes to the actual fighting, Ducky would be relatively useless and would probably instinctively make a run for the water and swim away in it.
Don't forget that in LBT IV and LBT II, Ducky did use projectiles to distract attackers (coconuts in II and stones in IV). So I'd guess she'd serve as the ranged attacker or "sniper".
Wow. I just realized how dramatically I can violate Ducky's character in my fan fiction and still keep it relatively pure.*Cough*Duckyfightingwiththrownrocksandsticks*cough*
But yeah, it is kinda funny how it moved from "Ducky" to "Military Traditions in the Great Valley".
I wonder if I should start a thread titled "Military Traditions in the Great Valley"? But where would it go? The Party Room or General LBT or the Fridge?
Oh, I forgot to mention Ducky is the equivalent of an 18 year old human in my fan fiction and is large and strong enough to throw objects with enough force to cause injury.
BACK TO SERIOUSNESS:
I think some dinosaurs "culturally" might be more or less xenophobic than others. But this is very difficult if not impossible to judge.
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Ducky was less of a distraction in those movies and more of an annoyance... still, I suppose she COULD throw things, just not very hard...
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I would think she would be able to hurt predators with projectiles more than she would appear to. After all, she's gotta have strong arms to be such a good swimmer. Her courageousness is far greater than her size, and she is protective of her friends regardless of physical limitations :yes. She really is a sweetie :wub:.
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Yes indeed. Imagine what she'll be line when she's older, in her mid teens at least when she's larger say around Ruby's current size at least.
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I would think she would be able to hurt predators with projectiles more than she would appear to. After all, she's gotta have strong arms to be such a good swimmer. Her courageousness is far greater than her size, and she is protective of her friends regardless of physical limitations :yes. She really is a sweetie :wub:.
Not really, technically, her arms would have helped her steer through the water; her feet and tail are what would actually propel her. I imagine that she might be able to kick and use her tail in a fight when she is older, but she would likely use her tail and feet to help herself swim to safety rather than fight.
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Ducky is my second favorite of the group, after Spike. She instaltly pierces your heart, and it was really sad to find out what happened to Judith Barsi, the girl who originally voiced her. :cry
Movie 6---46:21. She got through that and lived to tell...I respect her even more after that
I really liked her voice from 7 and onwards. She sounds like she's growing up. ;)
I didn't really like her in 6, but I adored her in 7. To see Spike crying at 33:14 over her being gone pratically breaks my heart---thumbs up if you cried, too. And I thought it was really sweet when they found her in that cave. Spike immediately running to her and giving her a lick is one of the most touching moments in the film; all this is truly proof that he cares about her the most.
I really like how LBT 8 gave us a look at the struggle she was having of feeling unable to express herself. It's something all of us have a hard time with at some point, and while 8 wasn't the best LBT film, it definitely succeeded in this area. Eve though she said she'd never get mad at Spike again, I'd actually like to see her break this "promise". She's most interesting when she's mad.
I liked her espicially in the later seqeuls, by which point Littlefoot was losing his charm, and Petrie had gone from cute to annoying. The only complaint I have about her is her meltdown at 69:37 in 11. Seriously---69:31-70:08 was...the huuuuuuuggge meltdown the series had been edging perilously towards ever since 5.
Movie 6---at 41:34-38. She does what's in her case near-equivalent to dropping the F-bomb!! :wow
(Spike too seems to have this temporary fits of acrophobia while he sometimes shows an extreme indifference towards heights, for example when he crosses the LBT 5 log smiling relaxed and with closed eyes).
That was so cute. :smile
And then in 6 he's scared to death to cross the chasm, and I feel so sorry for him. And then he nearly gets gets made into splatter by the tooth that fell off saurus rock. And then he gets his tale stuck in the hollow log.
And just when you think he's had enough in this film...well, you know what I'm getting at.
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I always wondered what is her species exactly.An LBT game said that she is an edmontosaurus,but I dont know how official the information is.
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Edmontosaurus would not make much sense because that kind didn't have a crest on the head. Ocasionally she has been identified as a Parasaurolophus, but this too doesn't seem to be correct, for not only would the crest on her head be more prominent and a continuation of the ridge of her nose, but we also saw the distinctly different looking Parasaurolophus in some LBT scenes (e.g. there were some during "grandma's lullaby" in LBT 4). I guess our closest bet is the Saurolophus (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saurolophus) with a less prominent crest than the Parasaurolophus.
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Official information called her an Anatosaurus(now synonimous with Edmontosaurus), Saurolophus and Parasaurolophus.
She most closely resembles a Saurolophus, then an Edmontosaurus. She is not a Parasaurulophus, because lambeosaurines appeared in LBT and they have different crests compared to Ducky's species.
EDIT: Malte beat me to it.
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Thanks,i guess you are right,she seems to be a saurolophus.Or a weird edmontosaurus¶saurolophus hybrid :lol
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I had a theory that Ducky's species was originally intended to be Edmontosaurus/Anatosaurus, but the animators added a Saurolophus crest because it made her cuter, more interesting-looking, and/or more expressive (anyone else notice how her crestówhich should realistically be an immobile bony spikeóflexes and moves around in accordance with her emotions, such as drooping slightly when she's sad?). That would explain why she's called an Anatosaurus in the promotional material, though for all intents and purposes she was turned into a Saurolophus as soon as that design change (if it occurred) was made. :p Regardless of what sources call her, Malte and jansenov are correct; between the dimensions of her bill and the size and shape of her crest, Ducky most closely resembles a Saurolophus.
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Perhaps her father was a Saurolophus and her mother is an Anatosaurus. They may not be humans, but hey, this is the LBT universe we're talking about. Anything is possible ;) :p.
As for her mobile crest, as many falls as she's taken, maybe she broke it and now it can't fuse back together :lol.
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I find her cute, but she is a little annoying. Her voice in the first movie was adorable, her second voice was annoying, and her third one was pretty good. She, aswell as Petrie, Ruby, and Spike, need to learn how to speak properly.
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Being the youngest I can see why Spike could not speak in the 1st movie. No idea why they altered his size between scenes. & Since he is the youngest he could have spoken his first word at the end of the 1st movie, before the end or in the 2nd movie somewhere.
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Ducky :wub
She's my favourite character because...
- she looks so cute
- she acts very cute
- of her way of speech( mainly yep, yep, yep ; no(pe), no(pe), no(pe), but also some others)
- of her funny quotes( especially from the original)
- of her character(always(almost) friendly and welcoming, credulous, funny, overjoyed and in a good mood, but also she cries a lot, which often makes her even cuter)
- she likes to hug her friends(especially Petrie can't get enough of them :P:)
I also like that she's Spikes "sister", their relationship as siblings is something that I really like!
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I have a question concerning a not so famous speech pattern of Ducky...
She sometimes uses something like asked-ed or eat-ed. On which occasions does she do it? I'd like to know because I'd really like to refer to her speech pattern correctly both in fanfiction and RP's and I'm afraid I'm not able to discover the rule behind it myself..
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She also says harderer once (in the TV series I believe). Her repetitive lines and reduplication of final syllables endign in a difficult consonant indicate that she has trouble with language fluency. Children usually overcome these difficulties at the age of 18 to 24 months, but it seems Ducky (of the sequels at least) is a more difficult case.
The only rule that I could establish is that Ducky makes these kinds of mistakes more often when she can't fully focus on her speech, when she is concentrating, agitated or excited by something.
One more thing. Although her famous lines may have started as mistakes, they've grown on others to such an extent that Ducky decided to make them trademarks of hers, and she will sometimes say them on purpose.
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Okay, thanks a lot :yes
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I've always loved Ducky even as a kid, she's so cute and innoncent. Yet as I rewatch the movies I notice she can be a bit snarky sometimes especially towards Cera which I find just hilarious. I really like how everyone in the group is just really protective of her, specifically Littlefoot, Spike, and Chomper.