The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Character Discussion => Topic started by: Serris on August 28, 2008, 12:28:40 AM
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This quote from Drake:
For the adults I think the strongest ever was Sharptooth, I have to wonder if there was some sort of supernatural force behind that T-rex.
got me thinking, "is The Sharptooth supernaturally gifted?".
I don't think it is ever mentioned but I'm thinking that he is not quite normal.
Let's see some of his feats:
- Speed is apparently the same as a raptor
- Can survive falls of over 500 ft with no injuries (other than unconsciousness)
- Can withstand several powerful tail whips from fully grown Apatosaur with no injury
- Can demolish rock with no injury
- Can be thrown into rock with no injury
- Can leap approximately 4x height (see leap at end of 1st movie)
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No, I don't consider Sharptooth to be supernatural, just another dinosaur. True, the scariest, fiercest sharptooth of them all, but still just a dinosaur.
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There was at least 1 other t-rex, and maybe more, that had some of those abilities. Though they may be a variety with more power then the average t-rex. Which does make me wonder why they went so far, and also if Chomper will be a normal t-rex as an adult, or one of those with powers above those or normal t-rex's.
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I agree with Kacie on this one. The sharptooth of the original movie was a very strong one and he did do things that go beyond what we would usually expect from a sharptooth to perform. However, I am booking all of these under "effects for the sake of entertaining the audience" rather than "supernatural abilities of the Sharptooth".
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They could have done the same without giving it powers beyond those of an ordinary sharptooth. A realistic one could still be scary. I wonder if while offscreen he works as a mild mannered reporter for the sharpteeth planet newspaper. I was expecting it to have an s on it's chest. Since it's abilities were not unlike a certain famous character who first appeared in print in 1938. Or perhaps more like a phantom zone criminal.
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I definitely think that there was something different about that sharptooth. It may not neccessarily be supernatural, but it is super-something.
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i'm with malte about this,
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Actually, I have heard many people call Sharptooth supernatural. I don't consider him so, but I definitely find him the best villain in LBT, claws down.
I loved how they made him not talk. It intensified his malice and overall terrifying-ness. He was so versatile, too, and had incredible power. Chomper calls Red Claw the biggest and meanest sharptooth of all? Sharptooth was waaaaay meaner. Like noted, he had the crazy jumping abilities, and he was very fast, and he fought a fully-grown brontosaurus(?) and fell down cliffs and was STILL trying to get those kids. And once Red Claw got beaten by having fruit thrown at him.
Red Claw the scariest sharptooth, my foot.
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The original sharptooth wasn't a wimp. :p He actually fought.
Plus, name me any Hollywood film that didn't have a hero appearing supernatural or can take falls that would otherwise break bones or kill anyone in reality. ^^
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Plus, name me any Hollywood film that didn't have a hero appearing supernatural or can take falls that would otherwise break bones or kill anyone in reality. ^^
Slumdog Millionaire. Wait, that's Bollywood...
Aggh, you got me.
If the Sharptooth was supernatural, it would follow with the themes of the movie. After all, Littlefoot's mom became a ghost.
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Actually, I have heard many people call Sharptooth supernatural. I don't consider him so, but I definitely find him the best villain in LBT, claws down.
I loved how they made him not talk. It intensified his malice and overall terrifying-ness. He was so versatile, too, and had incredible power. Chomper calls Red Claw the biggest and meanest sharptooth of all? Sharptooth was waaaaay meaner. Like noted, he had the crazy jumping abilities, and he was very fast, and he fought a fully-grown brontosaurus(?) and fell down cliffs and was STILL trying to get those kids. And once Red Claw got beaten by having fruit thrown at him.
Red Claw the scariest sharptooth, my foot.
Yeah, I have a very low opinion of Red Claw too; they just put him in the show just for the role of a villain, and since the show took a turn for being more childish, it makes Red Claw a joke compared to the original Sharptooth.
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he wasn't villain (the Sharptooth), but PERFECT predator / natural antagonist, who has a chance to become personal antagonist (for Littlefoot & Co).
I don't believe he had superpowers, so there're two options:
- or he WAS the meaniest and strong sharptooth who ever walked ground.
- or Don Bluth & Co "gifted" him his abilities intentionally. Remember: we haven't (almost) seen any other predator in original movie. Maybe these abilities are... normal. And of course, creators of sequels ridiculously reduced predator's danger and strenght, making them complete idiots like Red Claw.
Edit: however... WAIT! HE HAS SUBGODDAMN TELEPORTATION!!!
what the hell, sharptooth? How did you do that?
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I forgot this was mainly about the original Sharptooth, so here's my thoughts about him.
I'm aware there's some debate as to whether he was really a villain who just a predatory antagonist, but I do know that he holds a grudge against Littlefoot for blinding him in one eye in the thorn bush, and since observing that he kept trying to bite even after getting stuck when he tried to reach the gang in the desert.
And he wasn't supernatural, no, but just simply had above-average abilities for a sharptooth, like
really above average.
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In the Original, Sharptooth is suppose to represent Satan allegorically. Little Foot is Moses, the Tree Star (Star of David), the Great Valley (The Promise Land), and the fact Sharptooth is drowned in water just as Egyptians were at Red Sea during the Exodus all fits. So yes in continuum of the Original Film, he is supernatural, but in the sequels not so much.
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Honestly, the only reason why the sharptooth in the original movie seems so powerful and invincible is because he's shown from the point of view of a bunch of (almost) helpless dinosaur kids. It's supposed to help the viewer emphasize with the group of protagonists more. If that big carnivore met - say - that herd of hungry longnecks that devoured the little patch of green food Littlefoot and his friends first mistook for the Great Valley, I'm pretty sure they'd fight him off no problem. :)
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If that big carnivore met - say - that herd of hungry longnecks that devoured the little patch of green food Littlefoot and his friends first mistook for the Great Valley, I'm pretty sure they'd fight him off no problem. :)
Not really. Remember - he fighted Littlefoot's mom. He fighted creature who defended her single child - I believe it's the most dangerous creature in the nature. With that, she overpassed her own maximum of power, fighting and running even with fatal wound. But even THAT didn't help her to defeat Sharptooth, since he only lost conscious for some seconds, and I believe, Littlefoot and Cera were saved only by sudden earthshake.
Also, it's obvious that Sharptooth went in some kind of insane furious state during his battle. It increased his powers almost beyond the natural.
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Lone predators are outfitted for combat by nature. Gregarious herbivores - not so much, no matter what kind of motivation they have. But there's safety in numbers... Unless everyone on your group is a kid. :D
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or unless they're attacked by sharptoth in demented state caused by fatal level of hunger, who doesn't feel pain and is immune to physical attacks, who jumps on 300 meters on spine of the pray and immediatelly tears him to fatal wounds state. :rolleyes:
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or unless they're attacked by sharptoth in demented state caused by fatal level of hunger, who doesn't feel pain and is immune to physical attacks, who jumps on 300 meters on spine of the pray and immediatelly tears him to fatal wounds state. :rolleyes:
Another good point Snik. It is possible Sharptooth is demented from hunger or perhaps some of his scraps have made him an ultra violent predators. Jaws, the shark film by Spielberg was based on a real occurance in New Jersey, where a shark got into the river and began eating people, because it was nuts from salt water and fresh water. Perhaps Sharptooth had some similar experience.
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That seems very plausible, considering the movie itself starts with the comment on how the environment which dinosaurs inhabited was in turmoil.
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Sharptooth isn't supernatural, nor invincible. Plates and Bovus (my name for the Horned Sharptooth) could beat him 2 on 1.
Littlefoot's mother was also taking care of business on Sharptooth until her guard was down. He's the strongest, but not too strong.
Some sequel sharpteeth like Plates, the Allosaurus, and Bovus were given some of his abilities, and it seems Plates is an even better fighter, destroying Chomper's parents until Papa Sharptooth sent him off the cliff with a tail attack. Who knows what he could have been capable of in the state of such fatal hunger.
Sharptooth killed Littlefoot's mother because she was in defense mode for the safety of the children. It was only when after he got bit when she really took him down. I bet she could have crushed him if she chose to go on the offensive.
I don't have anything against him, whether he's a starving predator or a villain, I'm just trying to convince people that he is not invincible to things other than drowning, I can assure you.
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I don't believe in superpowers in LBT, so of course I don't consider him as supersharptooth. I think - all his teleportations, jumps, invisibility, fury, etc - is results of maximum ultimate level of his general strength and power. He's so powerful when he's even on his normal "calm" mode. And these ultimate powers grow to beyond level when hew enters in "full rage" mode.
As I told, I think Littlefoot's Mother is able to beat almost everyone, because she was in her own "full rage" mode, defending single child. She and Sharptooth - they totally ignored all the pain, hits in neck, complete deadly wounds that would instantly disable any other creature. But not them.
Now I think: really, why doesn't LBT5 (and ok ok, even LBT14) sharptooth enter in the same state when they're "invisible", really, why not. Then they definitely could handle with LBT1 sharptooth when they're "many vs 1". :)
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I think supernatural here is meant to be paranormal. Sharptooth has a supernatural (demonic) presence but he is physical Tyrannosaurus. Unlike subsequent Sharpteeth, Sharptooth possesss an invidious presence that caused your hair to stand up on back of your neck. I read somewhere Stephen Spielberg saw Sharptooth as Satan, Littlefoot as Moses, The Treestar as the Star of David, and The Great Valley as The Promised Land.
For me, there is also some Christian symbolism, Sharptooth is drowned in water which denotes Baptism is water, Satan’s power broken when a person becomes a Christian and is baptized in water (Acts 19:1-21), out of Jesus’ side as He died fod sins was blood and water (John 19:34), and that Jesus is the Living Water (John 7:37-39) that Sharptooth sinks in. In addition, the Gang uses a giant Rock to sink Sharp tooth which alludes to Christ being Cornerstone (Ephensians 2:19-22), and the rock upon which a house stands (Matthew 7:24-27). The fact that the Gang is Five could denote the Five wounds of Christ, the wounds that defeated Satan and Sin, in this case Sharptooth.