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The Land Before Time => Land Before Time TV Series (2007) => Topic started by: rosie on August 10, 2008, 11:18:31 PM

Title: What you don't like
Post by: rosie on August 10, 2008, 11:18:31 PM
What are the things you don't like besides the songs. I want Chomper to bit Cera more. More pain. :unsure:  Seriously, Those yellow bellies look too much like cartoony sterotypes  and how did they manage to survive for so long without becoming extinct. :blink:  They look defenseless even more so than Tricia and chomper and Ducky's siblings. They look like Carebears and those Charming bears.  :huh:
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Kor on August 10, 2008, 11:28:58 PM
So many 1 shot characters.  The tv series has some of these also.  Skip, Guido, the bullies.  It is odd that they would appear only once in the series and never be seen, even as background characters.  No sight of Pat, unless he didn't make it back to the great valley between the 10th movie and the start of the 11th.  

  As well certain other things.  

Though I do enjoy the movies, even certain scenes of 10, though not the whole movie, and the tv series.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on August 10, 2008, 11:31:55 PM
Quote from: rosie,Aug 10 2008 on  10:18 PM
I want Chomper to bit Cera more. More pain.
If he starts pulling that nonsense, I'd give him roughly a thirty-second lifespan :p.  I can't understand wishing pain amongst anybody unless they have murdered another individual or violated a child <_<.  Back on topic :bang.  If there's anything I don't like about the series, it's how the suspense level has drastically decreased since LBT V :blink:.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Amaranthine on August 10, 2008, 11:35:49 PM
Quote from: Cancerian Tiger,Aug 10 2008 on  08:31 PM
If there's anything I don't like about the series, it's how the suspense level has drastically decreased since LBT V :blink:.
Yeah,  I agree. I think the producers were starting to loose good ideas once they made the ninth sequel. :p
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Kor on August 11, 2008, 02:08:40 AM
Maybe one reason at least some of the team of writers, producers, directors, ect, should be changed from time to time.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: kjeldo on August 11, 2008, 07:26:28 AM
i don't know what i must think from this topic...
Title: What you don't like
Post by: landbeforetimelover on August 11, 2008, 07:28:15 AM
The TV series themes are pretty simple but I like how fast paced it is.  Just take out the songs and they'd be great.  Perhaps spend more than 5 minutes while you're brushing your teeth doing the animation and it'd be even better. :rolleyes:
Title: What you don't like
Post by: NeoGenesis005 on March 18, 2009, 04:49:07 PM
Like what Kor mentioned the "One Shot" Characters, they don't give them enough screen time.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: metadude1234 on June 19, 2009, 07:23:59 PM
If the songs were cut out, i think the movies would be great......well some of the movies will be better.....(the tenth movie)
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Caustizer on June 19, 2009, 08:18:54 PM
Think about the songs for a second - what do you remember most about the second movie? For me it was "Peaceful Valley" at the very beginning. Kids watching the series nowadays will probably relate to the songs more then us LBT Vets will - its natural with age.


What I don't like is the lore gap between the TV series and the movies. Lots of unanswered questions such as where characters went and why the new ones came in.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: metadude1234 on June 19, 2009, 08:33:27 PM
I have always wondered how did chomper get off of the island if the landpath was destroyed??? and what also get's me confused is how his parents didn't try to eat ruby and her family.......also how did ruby come to care for chomper?......................i'm so confused....
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Noname on June 21, 2009, 04:30:00 PM
I'm not sure how they did that either... they probably had some sort of earthquake which opened up another path or something... then, they probably met Ruby and her family.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: metadude1234 on June 21, 2009, 08:56:50 PM
i guess so, but that still doesn't answer why Chompers parents didn't try to eat Ruby and her family....
Title: What you don't like
Post by: metadude1234 on June 21, 2009, 08:57:47 PM
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Title: What you don't like
Post by: Malte279 on June 22, 2009, 03:31:58 AM
I have some own theories about both questions and I might put them into a fanfiction some day. As for Chomper's parents apparently not attacking Ruby's, there are different possibilities. One is that we cannot be 100% certain if the parents of the two ever actually met, though the TV series suggests that Chomper's parents and Ruby definitely did. I suppose in some ways these Sharpteeth parents are rather practical thinkers. If there was a benefit of leaving Ruby alone (e.g. her teaching anything that might be useful to their son (I am not the only one whom it struck as odd that after a few hours of contact with leafeaters on the first day of his life Chomper apparently gained sufficient command of leafeater language to speak fluently in LBT 5, am I?) or taking care of him while they are out hunting) that outweighed the small benefit of what morsel she would make, I reckon those sharpteeth would go for the greater benefit IF there is sufficient other food around.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: musicfreak9000 on June 22, 2009, 05:16:47 PM
the whole show
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Littlefoot3897 on June 23, 2009, 08:52:09 PM
I didnt like how in the Land Before time TV show mostly all the chracters who returned like Ali, Doc, Hyp, etc werent acting themselfs anymore.
Ali was my favorite character because of her bravery and smartness, but in the TV series she's ldoesnt care about Littlefoot anymore and she just acted really dumb. Doc turned really mean, Hyp was suppose to be good now but they made him be a bully again. Bron I didnt like his voice they put on him. He sounds too young and not older like in the 10th movie. Chomper was my favorite character also and they turned him to a coward. Ruby I still dont know why it was necessery to add her. they really should improve the series  by the second season and movies, after the the 10th it just turned to childish now. I like how Cera gets a step mother and a stepsister, but what the deal with adding the tinysaurus and the yellowbellies??? They werent even part of the dino world. Land Before Time has turn to imaginary now. its not like the realistic anymore.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: NeoGenesis005 on June 23, 2009, 11:39:21 PM
Quote from: Littlefoot3897,Jun 23 2009 on  07:52 PM
its not like the realistic anymore.
Now that is something I can agree with! Between 11 to 13 alot of things that toke place didn't look real at all.  I still like enjoyed the plot for all the movies but I know you can't find the Tinysaurus and the Yellowbellies in any Dinosaur Species List.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Pangaea on June 24, 2009, 12:38:53 AM
The yellow bellies are based on Beipiaosaurus, a small therizinosaur from early Cretaceous China. (It says so on the back of the DVD case.) Of course, the real Beipiaosaurus was covered in primitive, hair-like feathers (not just tufts on the head and tail), and had three (not four)-fingered hands with long, scythe-like claws on them (in spite of this, it was a herbivore). I suppose the LBT people thought the claws would look too scary. <_<

The tinysauruses were probably based on Mussaurus ("mouse reptile"), a prosauropod (an early relative of longnecks) that is so far known only from fossils of hatchlings and juveniles. Adult Mussaurus were almost certainly much larger than Big Daddy, :p but I am more than willing to attribute this decision by the LBT filmmakers to artistic license.

For the record, I rather enjoyed LBT XI, :yes though I think it could have been more interesting (or at least made more sense in terms of the dinosaurs' initial disgust towards the tinysauruses) if an altogether new kind of dinosaur was used, rather than simply a miniature version of a familiar type.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: DarkHououmon on June 24, 2009, 12:47:35 AM
I didn't think a dinosaur like a tinysaur existed until I went to a foreign LBT site and the owner had labelled them as mussauruses. Curious, I looked it up, and sure enough, a skeleton of a baby mussaurus was about the size of the tinysauruses.

So even the tinysauruses are based on an actual dinosaur find.

As for the yellowbellies, I already knew they were based on a real dinosaur. Although not everything is shaped correctly, I could tell, just from their basic structure, that they were a therizinosaur of some type. What gave it away was their two-footed stance, their huge bellies, and their heads attached to relatively long necks.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Littlefoot3897 on June 25, 2009, 12:37:10 AM
uh the movies that I really dislike was the 13th one.
Land Before Time use to be movies that attracted every  age. But now it only focuses on Preschool watchers.  <_<
I like the 1-10 because it  tought many people from different ages lessons. like Family, friendship, sharing, etc. and the movies were much darker because it had fights, scarier sharpteeth, and close deaths.
I mean Red Claw in the episode "the cave of many voices" he was such a coward to be scared like that. I mean none of the Sharpteeth before were that cowardly.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Lilfut on August 24, 2009, 08:16:31 AM
Why doesn't Petrie solve every problem?

The gang gets trapped? Send Petrie back to the Valley to tell the grown-ups. Small but important trinket (i.e. Chomper's tooth) falls of a cliff or is too high to reach? Let Petrie go up/down and get it.

We know he can, in the shiny stone episode he ran back to tell the others while dodging magma from an active volcano.

I guess that'd make things too easy. :rolleyes:
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Petrie. on August 24, 2009, 08:27:42 AM
^ If it were that obvious there would be no story. :rolleyes  Back to the drawing board...
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Lilfut on August 24, 2009, 11:46:28 AM
Yeah, well, they could at least try to justify it. Maybe injure his wing at the beginning. As it stands, though, I have to laugh everytime there's:

"Oh no! Ducky fell down a cliff!"
"Me not know what to do!"

While he flies right next to Littlefoot's head, being strong enough to grab her. I swear, if someone donated a nickel to charity every time something like that happens, we wouldn't need charity anymore.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Lilfut on September 01, 2009, 09:23:28 AM
Another case: all of Stranger from the Mysterious Above. Fly down the hole and find out what Spike's doing, you idiot!
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Kor on September 01, 2009, 11:23:03 AM
Quote from: Lilfut,Aug 24 2009 on  07:16 AM
Why doesn't Petrie solve every problem?

The gang gets trapped? Send Petrie back to the Valley to tell the grown-ups. Small but important trinket (i.e. Chomper's tooth) falls of a cliff or is too high to reach? Let Petrie go up/down and get it.

We know he can, in the shiny stone episode he ran back to tell the others while dodging magma from an active volcano.

I guess that'd make things too easy. :rolleyes:
yes, it's one of the cases where writers don't think of the full ramifications or capabilities of certain characters.  Same with certain other characters in other places.  Like with the Flash & Superman.  The full speed they have they should be able to move so fast they could literally wrap up all their foes like mummies in a millionth of a second, or a tenth at the very slowest.  


Also in Lbt, like a lot of juvenile fiction, having incompetent adults, like in lbt 3, no adult, not even a flyer thought to go themselves, or with a few friends, to see if maybe the water is blocked from getting into the Great Valley, & same thing in the lbt tv episode where Mo appeared?  Every adult would rather argue, like in lbt 7, rather then go and rescue Ducky, and other examples from other movies.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on September 01, 2009, 07:33:11 PM
Quote from: Lilfut,Sep 1 2009 on  08:23 AM
Another case: all of Stranger from the Mysterious Above. Fly down the hole and find out what Spike's doing, you idiot!
That, too, would be too easy :rolleyes:.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Lilfut on September 02, 2009, 08:16:12 AM
Of course, SftMA had plenty other problems (Spike is a god? Seriously?), but Petrie talking about the terrible things that must be happening down there takes the cake.

INCOMING VISUAL PUN

 :birthday
Title: What you don't like
Post by: pokeplayer984 on September 07, 2009, 01:49:30 AM
Okay, you want to know what I hate about the TV Series?  How badly we were ripped off with it!

Think about it for a second.  Good Episodes without songs that completely ruined it were far and few between.  When they came out on DVD, we were only given 4 Episodes per DVD.  With 26 Episodes, that's 6 DVDs with 2 Episodes leftover.  So, even with buying them, you don't get them all.

What's even worse, is that we in the US were REALLY ripped off.  We did get a 25th with the help of it being a Bonus Feature in LBT 13.

So, where's the 26th?  You have to go and download it off of LBTlover's site.  Nice!  You can't legally buy it because there's NO DVD that has it.

Remember, this is for the US.  We were totally ripped off!

What they should have done is simple, 2 DVDs with 13 Episodes each.  I'm sure they could have been compacted quite well without the quality being lowered. (If not, they could have been made into dual-layer easily.) Even better, if they were willing to do Blu-Ray, they could have done ALL 26 on one disc and pack the extra space with Bonus Features.  Simplicity like that can easily be capitalized on.

Big potential opportunity missed if you ask me.  Instead, they chose to rip us off.  Makes me quite mad. :angry:
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Pangaea on September 07, 2009, 03:15:41 AM
^ That IS annoying. I remember when I was buying the DVDs (which I also thought were annoyingly expensive, considering how few episodes are on each one), I was thinking, "Six DVDs; aren't there 26 episodes? One of these must have five episodes on it..." When I found out that there wasn't, my first thought (apart from that the DVD people really short-changed the LBT fans) was, "Whoever was in charge of dividing up the episodes must have failed math class horrendously." :rolleyes

It also seems bizarre to me that the DVD titled "Good Times, Good Friends" lacks a single episode in which that song is actually sung. :slap
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Caustizer on September 07, 2009, 12:12:49 PM
They should have released the whole season in one package, for a single price without having small little 4 packs.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Paradise Bird on September 08, 2009, 10:37:04 PM
Well I guess that is for money
Title: What you don't like
Post by: LBTFan13 on September 09, 2009, 12:12:45 AM
If you want to complain about non realistic, then start with LBT 7. Were the rainbowfaces aliens or what?

I thought LBT X had a really great plot idea, but it was kind of ruined. Maybe if the plot was more revolved around Littlefoot meeting Bron and the conflict between him and Shorty would have sufficed. The whole lunar eclipse or solar eclipse was a little much.

Anyway, only certain songs were terrible, but I can understand why Universal wanted to go the more childish path since they were trying to relate to kids more. Keep the really good songs like Always There, No One Has to Be Alone, If We Hold On Together, and Bestest Friends, and get rid of the stupid songs like Oops Eeps, Bad Luck, and Creepy Crawlies. Heck even Girls and Dads was tollerable.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Pangaea on September 25, 2009, 09:53:55 PM
Besides the cavernous plot hole involving Ruby and Chomper, and the overused, repetitive, and often infantile songs, the thing that may have bothered me the most about the TV series was Chomper whenever he spoke Sharptooth. In his first two appearances, all the lines he spoke in his native language consisted of either stock recordings of various animal calls (e.g., polar bear cubs), or convincingly natural-sounding squeaks, growls, and grunts provided by voice actor Rob Paulsen. In the TV series, his roars and growls are also performed by his voice actor, but in such a blatantly onomatopoeic fashion that they sound utterly ridiculous, especially compared to the vocalizations of the series’ numerous non-speaking sharptooth characters, such as Red Claw, Screech, and Thud. I honestly cringe every time Chomper “speaks Sharptooth” in the TV series, and frankly, I find it hard to respect him as a sharptooth (if that doesn’t make sense, I mean that I have trouble thinking of him as a sharptooth, and not just another leafeater who happens to eat insects), simply because his linguistic handling of his native tongue sounds so phony. :bang
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Petrie157578641 on October 01, 2009, 12:35:23 PM
Quote from: Cancerian Tiger,Sep 1 2009 on  06:33 PM
Quote from: Lilfut,Sep 1 2009 on  08:23 AM
Another case: all of Stranger from the Mysterious Above. Fly down the hole and find out what Spike's doing, you idiot!
That, too, would be too easy :rolleyes:.
It's just that episode was retarded as Spike himself(no offense to Spike fans)
It's just that episode Stranger from the Mysterious above was retarded as Spike himself(no offense to Spike fans)
Title: What you don't like
Post by: DarkHououmon on October 01, 2009, 12:40:56 PM
I don't think Spike is actually retarded.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Petrie157578641 on October 01, 2009, 12:53:56 PM
What I hate about LBT is it's tv-series(26 episodes) such low quality, repeating songs with also low quality not like in movies, where almost everything's PERFECT
And 1 thing I hate about TLBT the most is some people who say like " I watched 1-st movie and loved it, but they ruined Land Before Time with crappy sequels" or
"I didn't know there are so much sequels of LBT and I'm glad I didn't watch them"
or " I watched LBT 1-5,  and don't wanna watch the others"
I think the sequels became most great since The Stone of Cold Fire and just hate people who judge on first sequels like Great valley Adventure, which is the only sequel which I didn't like, movies 2-6 were very childish, but most of others are very, I'd even say EXTREMELY great VII-XII, I think they look more family-like, not only for little children, as series(2007) looks  :anger  :confused
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Mumbling on October 01, 2009, 01:19:14 PM
Fair enough. Me being a fan of the series itself will never be a fan of the '1st movie and no more' comments, though I do see why that is the best of all to many.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: dragoonanime on October 01, 2009, 01:33:09 PM
I thought that the first five sequels were pretty dark. The thing I didn't like about the tv series was that the guest characters from the movies had their personalties changed why too much.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: DarkHououmon on October 01, 2009, 01:41:32 PM
I agree with dragonanime; I do consider the earlier sequels to be darker. The perils they faced in the earlier movies (drought, fire burning down the valley, Littlefoot's grandpa nearly dying of a nearly incurable disease, valley food getting all eaten up) seem more severe than most of what they faced in the later movies (the only really severe thing I can think of that occurs in the later sequels is in LBT 8 when the valley freezes over). The later sequels become more child-oriented, so the amount of peril the gang faced was reduced, in my opinion.

Of the sequels, LBT5 is my favorite because of the different side of sharpteeth that it portrays. Very rarely do we see sharpteeth shown as more than just predatory dinosaurs. LBT5 gave us a glimpse at family life for sharpteeth. It's a shame that we rarely see this side of sharpteeth.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Petrie157578641 on October 01, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
I have to agree about LBT5 it's my favorite of sequels 2-6, but I disagree about the auditory ,that 7-13 were(well 13 were) made more child like I think it's just that, the animators understood, that it was so to say be harmful for little children to see all these bones and shark who almost eats them. and for explaining that movies 7-12 are more family-like several examples:
The Stone of Cold Fire was made in such great stile, it was hard to understand even for me(teenager), that Pterano isn't a pure villian, as he seems, there is a lot of stile in his personality, his voice( guest actor is a star Micheal York, were there much such actors in earlier sequels???), seems heartless and selfish though saves children at the end.
also in this movie we hear from Littlefoot's grandparents that he is too young for knowing what happened to Pterano did, but we see this story anyway, how cruel it was that every member of Pterano's group was killed by sharpteeth, also we can see how the screen becomes more red when sharpteeth surround Pterano's group, meaning soon blood spilling, also this movie was the only one, which went into Science fiction, which is extremely rare for childish cartoons.
As for The Big Freeze, it really was more childish, but also looks more Family-like then any other sequel, (song Family ) also song (forgot it's tittle) "You  are never too old to learn" I don't think these are good words for children  :lol
Also it teaches of understanding old people, how hard is life for them.

Movie 9 Journey to big water was my favorite after I first watched it, so
bright ,colorful,  new charcter Mo, with such funny voice, and I disagree that it's very childish , because it was a really scary moment when they all were hiding in the log from the Swimming sharptooth(forgot that dinosaur species :oops ) and it grabbed them, it seemed for them no escape.
I can continue such reviews till 13(it's really very childish with it's "Wisdoms aka "Say-so-s"), but it's nearly sleep time  :DD


P.S. Sorry for my awful English :bang
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Caustizer on October 14, 2009, 02:48:41 PM
I don't like how some characters whom are one off in the movies are also one off in the TV series - it really hurts the continuity.  Especially when Guido agrees to stay with Petrie's family, yet isn't seen or heard from again until the Black Rock episode.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: LBTFan13 on October 24, 2009, 05:15:32 PM
Going along with the songs, you notice how in the movies the only characters to really sing are the gang. Now in LBT III and IX, and XI there are adults who sing, and the villains sing in LBT II, IV, and VII, but in all the other movies it's mostly if not only the kids. I think the TV series should have kept the kids as the sole singers, because whenever the adults sang it was just unbearable, especially in The Amazing Treehorn Girl (god it made me sick lol).
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Petrie157578641 on October 29, 2009, 05:36:51 AM
The amazing threehorn girl was awful :lol  maybe the worst song of LBT ever
How silly were dancing dinosaurs looking there omg...
And I hate about LBT series how my favorite Petrie is stupid there, he believes in everything!!! In movies VI and VII he wasn't like that, he didn't believe in bad luck, he thought Stone of Cold fire isn't so possible, but in some episodes of the series, he just crazy reacts on The sun, volcano, and other, in the series he's almost useless character,but he's so cool in the movies, especially Great day of the Flyers :cry

Movie: (http://s47.radikal.ru/i116/0910/ce/42f81efd2b44.jpg)

(http://i041.radikal.ru/0910/3a/6d092022e7bc.jpg)

Series:
 (http://s19.radikal.ru/i192/0910/06/076a97508bce.jpg)

(http://s44.radikal.ru/i104/0910/e7/c9c58bdc41de.jpg)
Title: What you don't like
Post by: LBTFan on October 29, 2009, 07:54:57 AM
I don¥t like the singing in the TV episode.

and I agree with Petrie157578641. In some TV episode Petrie is more a wimp and I don¥t like that.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Pikkutassu on November 22, 2009, 10:17:54 AM
It is such low quality as someone already stated. Animation is even worse than the sequels, and the songs are bad.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: RWB on December 12, 2009, 12:26:52 PM
(http://www.myjurassicpark.com/pavel.riha.beipiaosaurus.small_small.jpg)

Nice pic of the dino the yellowbellies were based of.



I personally disagree with including VII among the "kiddier" movies.

It had a lot of dark moments(Pterano's past, espescially), villains that had personality, were goofy yet still intimidating(Sierra mostly), and some of the best songs in the series. The new characters had some of the best voice actors.
It even had suspense, even if it was mostly Ducky and the fact that two out of three villains were ready to throw her off a cliff.

It was a lot darker than say, 5.

It's probably the best sequel.


I'm yet to watch the series, but I'm going to now.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: LBTFan13 on December 12, 2009, 10:15:20 PM
Even though LBT VII did have some darker elements to it than LBT V, don't forget LBT V included some brief use of blood in it.

Not all of the singing in the TV series was terrible. Most of the songs that Cera sings in sounds good, and I say most because Ooops Eeeps is easily worst LBT song in existence.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: KingdomKey23 on December 12, 2009, 11:24:07 PM
I agree with you on Oops Eeeps LBTfan13. That song is just...ugh...can't even describe.

Probably the singing is the worst part of the movies. I did like Bestest Friends from LBT10, even though it was kind of out of character for the gang.


Some of the stories for the sequels were decent, while others were goofy. I haven't seen all of 13, but you can tell they are not taking their audience seriously.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: LBTFan13 on December 12, 2009, 11:44:16 PM
Quote from: KingdomKey23,Dec 12 2009 on  10:24 PM
Probably the singing is the worst part of the movies. I did like Bestest Friends from LBT10, even though it was kind of out of character for the gang.

 
I actually think Bestest Friends was a perfect song considering the circumstances. It was their way of telling that Littlefoot that if he decided to leave the Great Valley to be with Bron, they would respect his decision and still remain his best friends.

I noticed a pattern in the singing aspect for the sequels. There was always one serious song, and two sillier songs. In my opinion, it went like this:

LBT II : Peaceful Valley (Even though it was light hearted, it was probably the most serious of the three)

LBT III : Kids Like Us

LBT IV : It Takes All Sorts

LBT V : Always There (Easily the best song of the sequels)

LBT VI : On Your Own

LBT VII : Beyond the Mysterious Beyond

LBT VIII : Family/The Lesson (This one actually had two serious songs, which was a nice change)

LBT IX : No One Has To Be Alone (One of the best songs in the series)

LBT X : Bestest Friends

LBT XI : If Only

LBT XII : Things Change

LBT XIII : How Do You Know (This movie had the worst songs of the sequels. How Do You Know was the only song that didn't make me go insane)
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Paradise Bird on December 13, 2009, 01:03:16 AM
If only they saved sining for special times. They were rather pointless.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Malte279 on December 13, 2009, 05:13:18 AM
As for the singing I am willing to accept an occasional "oops eeps" (horrible though as it is :p) if they also come up with the better songs.
"No one has to be alone" from LBT 9 is one of my favorites. There is a lot of meaning to the lyrics and I wouldn't want to get rid of "oops eeps" if this meant getting rid of such quality songs as well. I did not pay too much attention to the songs in the TV series so I cannot say too much about them. They seem to recycle the same songs relatively frequently which further lessens their meaning. Then again I found some versions of "I am so happy" kind of catchy :smile
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Paradise Bird on December 13, 2009, 07:47:39 AM
Well if you like something as horrible as opps epps you can appreciate any song.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Animeboye on December 13, 2009, 11:44:11 AM
I couldn't find an any song from the show that I liked. They were all pretty pointless and really repetitive.

One thing (Well, actually two things) I couldn't stand were two certain episodes: Brave Longneck Scheme and The Amazing Threehorn Girl.

Brave Longneck Scheme- There was so much I didn't like about this episode. Not just Ali turning into a gullible moron who'll believe anything. The thing I hated most was how this episode made the Gang look like nothing more than bullies. I don't think Rhett deserved being humiliated like that, especially since he didn't seem like a bad sort. Yeah, he was a fibber and made himself look cooler than he really was but he wasn't doing any harm to anyone. Now if he were lying to try and manipulate Ali, then yes I could understand where the Gang was coming from but from what I gathered, it seemed like Rhett just wanted a friend. He probably didn't have any other friends and wanted Ali to think he was cool, thus the reason for his tall tales.

Now what I would have done is I probably would have had Rhett actually act like a jerk towards Littlefoot and Cera. I would have had him insulting them (Calling Littlefoot "Littleneck" Doesn't really count as an insult) or maybe have him say something like, "Ali's my friend now! She doesn't want to be friends with you anymore!" At least then the Gang's getting back at Rhett would have been justifyable and they would'nt have (completely) come off as petty children or bullies.



The Amazing Threehorn Girl-I had similiar problems with this episode as I did Brave Longneck Scheme. I didn't like how the adults were so quick to turn on Cera after they found out she was lying. Despite the fact it was really THEIR faults for not listening to her. Cera tried explaining that she wasn't the one who saved Littlefoot(I think that was it. I only saw the episode once) but she saw that they weren't listening so obviously she decided to just go along with it. On top of that, why were the adults angry at her anyway? She lied, yes, but she's just a kid! Kids will lie at one point or another. If anything, the adults should have been angry with themselves for not listening to her.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: KingdomKey23 on December 13, 2009, 04:08:43 PM
To LBTfan13: I dunno. I can understand they respect Littlefoot's decision, but..considering how close of friends the five of them are, I was expecting a bigger reaction from the gang.

The series also had a lot of out of character moments. Like the Ducky episode when they went to find those stones.

Ugh, don't remind me of the Brave Longneck Scheme, Animeboy. XD Ali is my favorite character, so seeing her treated this way just made it bad.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Ptyra on December 13, 2009, 04:45:15 PM
When I watched Brave Longneck Scheme, I thought Petrie would tie Rhett's stories into Pterano's and be the first to say "Waddaminute!" After all that happened with Pterano's stories and Petrie realizing they were all lies, Petrie probably has a little "lie detector" stored in his brain...'course, so did the others. Petrie could even have brought up one of Pterano's stories to Ali and linked it to Rhett's.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Animeboye on December 14, 2009, 01:45:49 AM
KingdomKey23: You're not alone in that feeling. I didn't like at all how either the gang or Ali were protrayed. The part where Cera was going over the plan to "get back at Rhett" (I use quotation marks since he didn't exactly do anything wrong), I was actually expecting Littlefoot to completely object to it. Not for Cera to say "Don't worry, Littlefoot, it's a great plan!" and to have Littlefoot just be like "Oh, okay." Really didn't like that part.

Also, is it just me or does Littlefoot not even seem to care as much for his friends in the TV series as he does in the movies? I seriously doubt he would have been so willing to put Chomper in danger like he did in Brave Longneck Scheme. And even if he didn't know of what may happen, I still have a hard time believeing he would be so willing to go along with it.

Ptyra: I think that would have actually made for a much more intresting episode. Maybe instead of using Chomper to scare Rhett, Petrie, as you said, brings up one of Pterano's stories to Ali and compares it to Rhett's. They then decide to see if Rhett is all that he says he is, so they take him to a small rocky mountain in the Great Valley to see if he really can build a mountain of rocks with his tail. Rhett then confesses that he can't and that he made all the stories up. The episode could probably end with a Sharptooth chasing Rhett and Littlefoot and the gang save him, and as a result, they become friends. That's just my idea for an episode rewrite.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Wiki_tha_Shadow on December 23, 2009, 06:48:49 AM
I have to say the songs get old, but I quite like the fleeting characters. Something new all the time, it keeps it fresh-tasting. What disappointed me greatly throughout the stream of movies and into the series was that, and I know why they would do it but come on, right? Get over it!- they never tweaked the designs to be more- well, dare I say it, anatomically correct. I don't mind it so much that I dislike it, but If I had kids (Here comes the dinosaur obsessed nerd in me) I would want them to be a little more clued up on what diosaurs were actually like. a little. For instance we have some pinfeathers on Ruby, which I was pleased about, but the flying reptiles seem to be bald. Screech and thud are bald. Everyone has archaic posture. I hate the majority of therapod tails, how they are so flexible- actually most of their tails.
 Oh yeah; and the carnivores are always the bad-guys lacking in intelligence. WTF?!
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on January 13, 2010, 06:19:17 PM
Okay, time for more of my two-cents :lol.

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Not all of the singing in the TV series was terrible. Most of the songs that Cera sings in sounds good, and I say most because Ooops Eeeps is easily worst LBT song in existence.

I would not say Cera's voice contributed to the "song" being so bad (if that's what I'm reading.  I could be wrong :bang).  She does have quite a nice voice.  Judging by the sound and rhythm of the song, I would not blame it on any of the Gang.  In fact, I blame it on the individual who came up with this insanity-inducing silliness.  They certainly did not have a good ear for rhythm at all, in my opinion anyway :p.  I would not be surprised if the said "composer" is deaf.  No, wait.  That would be an insult to wonderful deaf composers like Beethoven :oops.  I'm not sure what to classify the "composer" as... under the influence, perhaps :rolleyes:?  This noise about made my ears bleed.

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The series also had a lot of out of character moments. Like the Ducky episode when they went to find those stones.

Once again, I was thrilled (after getting over the "having been in ice water for ten minutes" feeling of numb-shock :blink:) to see Ducky really does have a dark side.  She actually has a FLAW, just like the others :o!

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Also, is it just me or does Littlefoot not even seem to care as much for his friends in the TV series as he does in the movies? I seriously doubt he would have been so willing to put Chomper in danger like he did in Brave Longneck Scheme. And even if he didn't know of what may happen, I still have a hard time believeing he would be so willing to go along with it.

I did not care much for Littlefoot's totally out-of-character arrogance in the TV series.  It's just like the case of Ali: Take the imposters and give us the real Littlefoot and Ali back :anger!  It seems like Littlefoot was attentive to Chomper's needs, but he seemed to be more...arrogant and indifferent towrds his friends since hatchlinghood <_<.  I was shocked at his reaction in "The March of the Sandcreepers" episode after it seemed like poor Cera had drowned.  He just did not seem to be emotionally appropriate for someone who had presumably just lost their best friend in the whole world, and possibly someone he sees as a sister.  I know it probably seems dramatic and cheesy, but I was kind of expecting him to continue frantically searching for Cera while shouting things like: "Don't do this to me, you silly threehorn!" or "For the love of sharpteeth, why did you do that?!  Why?!  WHY?!!!!!!"  His reaction when she resurfaced seemed to be lacking in emotion as well :crazy.  

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The Amazing Threehorn Girl-I had similiar problems with this episode as I did Brave Longneck Scheme. I didn't like how the adults were so quick to turn on Cera after they found out she was lying. Despite the fact it was really THEIR faults for not listening to her. Cera tried explaining that she wasn't the one who saved Littlefoot(I think that was it. I only saw the episode once) but she saw that they weren't listening so obviously she decided to just go along with it. On top of that, why were the adults angry at her anyway? She lied, yes, but she's just a kid! Kids will lie at one point or another. If anything, the adults should have been angry with themselves for not listening to her.

True, they only have themselves to blame, but these are the grown-ups we're talkin' about.  They probably have some sense of superiority over the children and would not accept they, in Grandma Longneck's words, were "acting like children."

Petrie (interrupts): "We no act like that!"

Me: "Uh, Petrie.  Ever stop to think about the original source of that rumor?"

Petrie: :oops

This only goes to further leave fans with the impression that the adults are dense and incompetent.  I'm sure Mr. Threehorn's fire escape plan would've gone over better than them listening to Cera's side of the story :rolleyes:.

One more thing I've noticed is that it seems like the Gang randomly puts on weight in random episodes :huh:.  Jeez, what are they feeding 'em on their lunch break?  Pizza and Dunkin' Donuts one week, a head of lettuce and a carrot stick the next :blink:?  Am I the only one that noticed this?
Title: What you don't like
Post by: NeoGenesis005 on January 16, 2010, 12:13:57 PM
Quote from: Cancerian Tiger,Jan 13 2010 on  05:19 PM
Okay, time for more of my two-cents :lol.

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Not all of the singing in the TV series was terrible. Most of the songs that Cera sings in sounds good, and I say most because Ooops Eeeps is easily worst LBT song in existence.

I would not say Cera's voice contributed to the "song" being so bad (if that's what I'm reading.  I could be wrong :bang).  She does have quite a nice voice.  Judging by the sound and rhythm of the song, I would not blame it on any of the Gang.  In fact, I blame it on the individual who came up with this insanity-inducing silliness.  They certainly did not have a good ear for rhythm at all, in my opinion anyway :p.  I would not be surprised if the said "composer" is deaf.  No, wait.  That would be an insult to wonderful deaf composers like Beethoven :oops.  I'm not sure what to classify the "composer" as... under the influence, perhaps :rolleyes:?  This noise about made my ears bleed.

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The series also had a lot of out of character moments. Like the Ducky episode when they went to find those stones.

Once again, I was thrilled (after getting over the "having been in ice water for ten minutes" feeling of numb-shock :blink:) to see Ducky really does have a dark side.  She actually has a FLAW, just like the others :o!

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Also, is it just me or does Littlefoot not even seem to care as much for his friends in the TV series as he does in the movies? I seriously doubt he would have been so willing to put Chomper in danger like he did in Brave Longneck Scheme. And even if he didn't know of what may happen, I still have a hard time believeing he would be so willing to go along with it.

I did not care much for Littlefoot's totally out-of-character arrogance in the TV series.  It's just like the case of Ali: Take the imposters and give us the real Littlefoot and Ali back :anger!  It seems like Littlefoot was attentive to Chomper's needs, but he seemed to be more...arrogant and indifferent towrds his friends since hatchlinghood <_<.  I was shocked at his reaction in "The March of the Sandcreepers" episode after it seemed like poor Cera had drowned.  He just did not seem to be emotionally appropriate for someone who had presumably just lost their best friend in the whole world, and possibly someone he sees as a sister.  I know it probably seems dramatic and cheesy, but I was kind of expecting him to continue frantically searching for Cera while shouting things like: "Don't do this to me, you silly threehorn!" or "For the love of sharpteeth, why did you do that?!  Why?!  WHY?!!!!!!"  His reaction when she resurfaced seemed to be lacking in emotion as well :crazy.  

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The Amazing Threehorn Girl-I had similiar problems with this episode as I did Brave Longneck Scheme. I didn't like how the adults were so quick to turn on Cera after they found out she was lying. Despite the fact it was really THEIR faults for not listening to her. Cera tried explaining that she wasn't the one who saved Littlefoot(I think that was it. I only saw the episode once) but she saw that they weren't listening so obviously she decided to just go along with it. On top of that, why were the adults angry at her anyway? She lied, yes, but she's just a kid! Kids will lie at one point or another. If anything, the adults should have been angry with themselves for not listening to her.

True, they only have themselves to blame, but these are the grown-ups we're talkin' about.  They probably have some sense of superiority over the children and would not accept they, in Grandma Longneck's words, were "acting like children."

Petrie (interrupts): "We no act like that!"

Me: "Uh, Petrie.  Ever stop to think about the original source of that rumor?"

Petrie: :oops

This only goes to further leave fans with the impression that the adults are dense and incompetent.  I'm sure Mr. Threehorn's fire escape plan would've gone over better than them listening to Cera's side of the story :rolleyes:.

One more thing I've noticed is that it seems like the Gang randomly puts on weight in random episodes :huh:.  Jeez, what are they feeding 'em on their lunch break?  Pizza and Dunkin' Donuts one week, a head of lettuce and a carrot stick the next :blink:?  Am I the only one that noticed this?
You know, you made couple points there,  the plots and Character behaviors are so unorginzed especially the songs (same rhythm but different words)  <_< seriously they can do better.  

 :) But I still like them all anyway.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Nenki7 on February 09, 2010, 01:00:41 PM
I don't want to see that sharptooths are very weak dinosaurs who cannot to catch some dinosaurs. :anger
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 27, 2012, 01:06:57 AM
I hate the music. I hate the animation. I hate how the characters are drawn. I hate how some characters like Littlefoot are portrayed. I hate how guest characters are changed. I hate the lack of narrator or outer space shots. I hate how they gave us a whole bunch of better episodes during the first half or so of the season and then started to give more crappy episodes in the second half. I hate those mammals in the mysterious above episode. I hate all the songs---hate em. I hate how absolutely dumb everything is. And I hate, absolutely, positively LOATHE the so- called "official" series finale!  :anger
Title: What you don't like
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 27, 2012, 08:19:27 AM
What's so bad about Through The Eyes Of A Spiketail? Sure it was different, but it wasn't that bad. So what if Spike was the star of the episode? He's not an awful character by any means.

Besides, as Vonboy pointed out, it was just a season finale and not a series one; it was just cancelled before new eps  could be made. So Through The Eyes Of A Spiketail is not the official series finale; there never was one. There was only a final episode, which is what Through The Eyes Of A Spiketail was. It was not meant to conclude anything; if it were anything special, it was a special treat to LBT fans to finally hear Spike's thoughts and what goes through his mind.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 27, 2012, 10:45:57 AM
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What's so bad about Through The Eyes Of A Spiketail? Sure it was different, but it wasn't that bad. So what if Spike was the star of the episode? He's not an awful character by any means.

Can't you just accept that I hate it? It's my least favorite episode of the whole series. Nothing you say is going to change that. If you like it that's fine. But I don't.


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it was a special treat to LBT fans to finally hear Spike's thoughts and what goes through his mind.


How the heck is that a treat?  :huh:

Seeing the land of mists again? That's a treat. Seeing the killer bee attack in 6? That's a treat. Getting a really beautiful, touching LBT film? That's a freakin' treat.

This wasn't. Seeing through Petrie's eyes would have been more of a treat, in my opinion.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 27, 2012, 02:12:24 PM
There were no killer bees in LBT6. Those were just bees. There was nothing killer about them, nothing that made them so special to deserve the "killer bee" title.

And I can honestly see why they chose an episode to be from Spike's POV rather than, oh say, Petrie, because out of the two, Spike is the more interesting character for this kind of experiment. Think about it. What makes Spike so different from the rest? What aspect of him would make an ep from his POV more interesting than from the other characters?

He doesn't talk. That's why. The other characters do talk and have talked throughout all the movies/episodes. An episode from Petrie's POV would not have been all that special compared to Spike because we already hear him talk and we know his thought process better than Spike. Spike has almost never spoken, save for..what one line or something, so an episode from his POV, hearing what he has to say about situations, would invoke more interest among the audience because it's something different.

The episode helped viewers understand Spike's world, a world that was, until that episode, rather mysterious and not really understood.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 27, 2012, 06:20:46 PM
Spike expresses his feelings through his grunts, sighs, giggles, licks, "mm-hmms", "uh-uhs", and occasional tears. Remember the "mad at Littlefoot" part in 11? Or the chaotic crying afterwards? So I'd say though he never talks, he certainly expresses how he feels in situations. I would like to see "Bad Luck" from his POV though to see how pathetic he saw his friends for being scared for no reason!  :lol


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The episode helped viewers understand Spike's world, a world that was, until that episode, rather mysterious and not really understood.

Yeah, that he sees in purple and hears in grunts.

And it was really like this the whole time?!  :huh:

Well, who knows what, say, Petrie's POV is like?  
I'd much rather see that since I like him better (NOW) and think it would be just amazing to see a flight from his POV. :smile


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  There were no killer bees in LBT6. Those were just bees. There was nothing killer about them, nothing that made them so special to deserve the "killer bee" title

Ok, bees then! Seeing the bee attack in 6? That's a treat. Happy?  :lol

But really, it's not a treat for fans. Getting good animation? That would be a treat. Getting good music? That would be a treat. Getting songs that are enjoyable and actually serious? That would be a treat. Getting a really, truly awesome exiting adventure? Now that would be a treat. Getting a great character like Mo? That's a freakin' treat. Having a really good action sequence? That's certainly a treat.

This wasn't.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 28, 2012, 01:47:36 AM
Anyways, have I made decent arguments now?
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Chomper98 on August 20, 2012, 01:30:44 AM
Something that I dislike is that they never have an episode where they finally defeat Redclaw, or actually show an episode about Chomper and Ruby getting into the Great Valley, instead of just throwing them in. Another would be the songs, really? Was it necessary to waste 6 or 7 minutes(thats how much time the two songs in every tv series take) just by them singing? Another was Mr. Thicknose's voice, why couldn't they hire the original actor? Chomper's new voice was better in this then in five, his voice there was so effing annoying, and I don't see him as a coward, just a normal little kid, and being the youngest of the gang, and being different then any other dinosaur in the valley makes it likely that he would be a little skittish. Also, why couldn't they use some good songs, like Very Important Creature, Always there, No One has to be alone, or Bestest Friends? They ruined Adventuring(my favorite song) and bombed Big Water and Friends for Dinner, and never brought back Pterano(my second favorite), that could have made a good plot.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 20, 2012, 08:34:33 AM
It's not that simple to hire a person to do a voice work in the first place. It's harder to get them to do it again. They probably tried to get the original voice actor, but he simply refused or was busy with something else, so they went with someone else. It's quite common for characters to get new voice actors for various reasons.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Chomper98 on August 20, 2012, 02:50:03 PM
I know about that, but still, why couldn't they get a voice actor who atleast can imitate the original's well?
Title: What you don't like
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 20, 2012, 03:58:57 PM
I can't say. Maybe they thought kids would not notice.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: EggStealerGirl on August 20, 2012, 06:47:43 PM
I can only guess the voice acting was the cause of their economic troubles; we have to remember that the final LBT sequel didn't sell very well.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: FreckledOne on August 21, 2012, 08:15:46 PM
The voices they used for the series as a whole were really hit and miss for me.  Sometimes they used adult voice actors to voice young characters, other times they kept using a child voice actor after they had grown up, and then (in the case of Littlefoot) they would replace the child voice actor with another child once the previous one got too old.  

But I guess the only thing I really don't understand about the show is why it took so long to make it. I always thought the Land Before Time movie series was at it's most popular during the nineties, and releasing a TV series at that time would make sense.  But they released the show in 2007, after most of the original audience had grown out of the franchise.  :crazy
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Littlefoot fan 1990 on January 12, 2015, 10:18:41 AM
The one thing I don't like was the many Adventuring versions done in the tv series. The original Adventuring in movie 10 was much better in my opinion. Another thing I don't like is all the different versions of Feel So Happy.

Littlefoot's current voice actor is another thing I didn't like.

Why couldn't they find an adult female to voice him? Some adult females can do young boy voices.

Why did they need two songs per episode anyway?

I don't think the series needed songs at all; unless the songs didn't sound the same with different lyrics for each episode.

Title: What you don't like
Post by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on January 12, 2015, 02:30:51 PM
i don't like that they didn't finish the series and hope that they do someday or at least finish that plot in the movies.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Pinky997 on May 03, 2015, 01:19:13 AM
Episode 24 where Ducky went psycho and abandoned Spike for some rocks. Wth was that about? Her creepy, evil, smile though..
The fact that Cera, Ruby, and Spike were left out of the last episode
How Doc became mean and Ally became annoying
How they used the same songs over and over again
How Petrie was scared of everything
Title: What you don't like
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 03, 2015, 10:19:38 AM
How was Doc mean? I don't recall him being mean. He just didn't trust Chomper. He isn't the only one.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on May 03, 2015, 08:24:48 PM
Doc was never portrayed as a sharptooth lover when LBT 6 came out.  In fact, based on his background, his attitude didn't surprise me much.

I really liked Ducky's "psycho" episode.  It gave her character more depth and proved she's not perfect😇.

Other than that, I do agree Petrie seemed way more skittish than normal and the songs were a bit overkill with redundancy.  I did not care for Littlefoot's OOC arrogance in the TV series.  He's normally way more down to earth and caring than that.  Hopefully, the new sequel will set the record straight again😉.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: fanciful_flyer on May 14, 2015, 11:22:13 AM
Pretty much what's already been mentioned: when I first started checking out the series, the first thing that irritated me were the repeated songs. -_-
And yes they should have had more characters reappear.
I did notice that sometimes they were out of character, so...in short, I consider the series the last thing to go to for LBT entertainment/lore (besides the 13th movie, of course.) Coming on too strong with the corniness.
Title: What you don't like
Post by: Ruby2 on July 06, 2015, 05:46:55 PM
I wonder how Cera goes from, on her view to Chomper

"We're not his friends, we're his diet!" and "He doesn't have feelings!  He's a Sharptooth!" in movie V to suddenly seeming to trust him completely in the TV Series.  

Plus, I still wanna know how Chomper met Ruby and where the heck his parents are!

Title: What you don't like
Post by: Sneak on July 07, 2015, 03:52:34 PM
things I disliked:
(sorry, I can't explain it better with my English skills)

1) show became even more childish.
even more than later films, me think.

these "relaxing" musics each second.
General atmosphere of series...

I think if creators added more "dark parts", it wouldn't spoil the show.
What do you think?

2) Ali, Guido, Bron, Shorty, and other guest characters appeared only in 1 episode. That's definitely not enough. Why they made 26 new stories, but most of character appeared only in one?
there were possibilities to develop characters more, to show how they are together with gang.
:(
(as result, I even made my own expansion of series. fanfiction episodes with these charaters. :D)