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Title: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on April 30, 2020, 10:12:00 PM
I don't know what will come out of this thread.

What if there was a 101 Dalmatians 3?

Any ideas of what you would have as a story or have in the cast?
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Anagnos on May 01, 2020, 05:24:44 AM
I don't know what will come out of this thread.

What if there was a 101 Dalmatians 3?

Any ideas of what you would have as a story or have in the cast?

I feel like they closed the series pretty well with the sequel and if they were to make another one it would raise the question whether Cruella would be the main villain yet again. Reusing old ideas three times in a row is not exactly good story telling. That being said, while I enjoyed the sequel, nothing can beat the amazing feeling the original brought.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 01, 2020, 08:36:54 AM
I don't know what will come out of this thread.

What if there was a 101 Dalmatians 3?

Any ideas of what you would have as a story or have in the cast?

I feel like they closed the series pretty well with the sequel and if they were to make another one it would raise the question whether Cruella would be the main villain yet again. Reusing old ideas three times in a row is not exactly good story telling. That being said, while I enjoyed the sequel, nothing can beat the amazing feeling the original brought.

I think it would still be nice to share any ideas that people think about if they have an thoughts about a "what if" scenario with the series.

Yes the series of films will most likely never become a trilogy but the fantasy surrounding the concept of a third movie is always good to sometimes think about.

Keeps the dream alive even if it never becomes reality.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Nick22 on May 01, 2020, 10:13:48 AM
what would the story be about? pongo and perdita have to be pretty old by that point. its not as if 'creulla gets out of jail and wants revenge' would work.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Anagnos on May 01, 2020, 12:55:12 PM
what would the story be about? pongo and perdita have to be pretty old by that point. its not as if 'creulla gets out of jail and wants revenge' would work.

My point exactly. The overused cliché that the main villain was sentenced to prison for doing something terrible and breaking out of said prison to get revenge on the protagonist is quite unoriginal and I fail to see how it would excite the audience. Although Disney is up to something little different, as of right now, I don't see it becoming a hit.

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a28812996/cruella-disney-release-date-cast-trailer-101-dalmatians-prequel/
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: OwlsCantRead on May 01, 2020, 01:04:17 PM
what would the story be about? pongo and perdita have to be pretty old by that point. its not as if 'creulla gets out of jail and wants revenge' would work.
They used that Cruella plot point in the live-action 102 Dalmatians and the direct to DVD sequel haha.

But yeah, I think that Pongo and Pedita have never quite been the main protagonist since the original. I believe the cartoon series focuses on the pups, and 101 Dalmatians 2 focused on Thunderbolt and Patch.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 01, 2020, 01:32:02 PM
A third one can focus on a relative of Cruella Devil to say who is just as twisted or take the sequel to 101 Dalmatians The Starlight Barking and adapt that.

Here it the summary on Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlight_Barking

 
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: OwlsCantRead on May 01, 2020, 01:38:52 PM
A third one can focus on a relative of Cruella Devil to say who is just as twisted or take the sequel to 101 Dalmatians The Starlight Barking and adapt that.

Here it the summary on Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlight_Barking
I used to own the 101 Dalmatians Platinum Edition, and there was a documentary on it. Though I barely remember it, Starlight Barking is mentioned. Walt apparently wanted to break his own rule of never making a sequel (101 Dalmatians already broke many rules with its Xerox animation and being set in a contemporary time) because he liked the author's work a lot, but I think he decently against it eventually. So I don't think Disney will ever adapt that novel in particular.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 01, 2020, 01:43:17 PM
It was also mentioned that he didn't know about it since he died before the book was published.

The TV Series, the 2 live action movies and the animated sequel to the 1961 original have no connection to the book's sequel.

Not to say the animated one is bad, I felt that if they looked at it they would have thought that the story wasn't strong enough to satisfy a 70 minute movie even if it's a straight to Video/DVD.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Nick22 on May 01, 2020, 03:13:39 PM
A third one can focus on a relative of Cruella Devil to say who is just as twisted or take the sequel to 101 Dalmatians The Starlight Barking and adapt that.

Here it the summary on Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Starlight_Barking

 

Problem is thats already been done plenty of times. see Little mermaid 2. its derivative.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 01, 2020, 03:46:59 PM
Well the The Starlight Barking would be a good adaption.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Nick22 on May 01, 2020, 08:41:40 PM
when was that book written?
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 01, 2020, 09:00:34 PM
When it was written?

It was released in 1967 and was a direct sequel.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: WeirdRaptor on May 05, 2020, 03:28:28 PM
what would the story be about? pongo and perdita have to be pretty old by that point. its not as if 'creulla gets out of jail and wants revenge' would work.

My point exactly. The overused cliché that the main villain was sentenced to prison for doing something terrible and breaking out of said prison to get revenge on the protagonist is quite unoriginal and I fail to see how it would excite the audience. Although Disney is up to something little different, as of right now, I don't see it becoming a hit.

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a28812996/cruella-disney-release-date-cast-trailer-101-dalmatians-prequel/
That one's been used for hundreds of years now.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 06, 2020, 03:59:00 PM
I don't really think people really would want to watch a prequel.

Disney should give people a story on the Dalmatians themselves not just a villain.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2020, 04:38:39 PM
Does this pertain to animated films or the live action movies?
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 06, 2020, 06:00:05 PM
Does this pertain to animated films or the live action movies?

Live action for the Cruella story and animation for the dalmatians.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2020, 07:08:15 PM
I would love 103 Dalmatians (Animated) to focus on Patches and Wizzer, like the PC Game:

(https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/95340211_137017774580054_2554047575816667136_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=ohWCNrMwcWcAX8m_m_6&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=64329f611d5e1952a4d9c1e768046f4b&oe=5ED9DD53)
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 06, 2020, 07:29:15 PM
I'm quite annoyed that Disney now want to spend time on a story that nobody really cares about.

When was the last time you thought "I want to know about why Cruella De Vil became obsessed with Dalmatians"?
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2020, 07:31:36 PM
I'm quite annoyed that Disney now want to spend time on a story that nobody really cares about.

When was the last time you thought "I want to know about why Cruella De Vil became obsessed with Dalmatians"?

I agree, there is no empathizing with dog killer. What’s next? Ursula’s own movie?
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 06, 2020, 07:39:57 PM
I don't know @Gentle Sharptooth but I would personally like to see a film based on the puppy Lucky.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2020, 07:41:24 PM
I don't know @Gentle Sharptooth but I would personally like to see a film based on the puppy Lucky.

Wasn’t there a 101 Dalmatians Series?
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 06, 2020, 07:53:36 PM
Yes but I meant a actual film with one plot not 65 reset plats.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2020, 07:57:05 PM
So a live action spin off about Lucky?
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 06, 2020, 08:00:36 PM
Animated movie spin off film.

I hate the way that they design the dogs in realistic CGI for terrible stories.

Waste of great technology.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2020, 08:07:41 PM
I’d be up for animated Spinoff. If Lucky is the focus, I would like Patches to be sidekick.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 06, 2020, 08:35:59 PM
Patch being the sidekick might actually work.

101 Dalmatians 3 would give fans of the series more reason to say that they will try rather than give people stories nobody asked for in the first place.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2020, 08:48:27 PM
Disney is just doing a cash grab.  :TakeMoney

Until people stop going to their movies and demand they make better movies, Disney will keep making medicore films.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 06, 2020, 09:05:56 PM
People will always go and see them, people follow like sheep and obey their media masters.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2020, 09:09:18 PM
People will always go and see them people follow like sheep and obey their media masters.

And that’s why we have quantity not quality. Sigh.

Is Lucky your favorite Dalmatian?
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 06, 2020, 09:11:27 PM
Perdita is.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2020, 09:13:06 PM
Mine is Patches, hence me pushing it for 103 Dalmatians.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 07, 2020, 08:41:06 PM
I do fell that Cruella Devil is getting tiresome.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 07, 2020, 08:45:01 PM
A new villian would be a nice change. What if it was a cruel breeder of Dalmatians who treats them in humane and wants to make big bucks?
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on May 07, 2020, 08:47:03 PM
If they get captured uniquely or it could lead off from 22nd of April 1961.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Nick22 on May 07, 2020, 11:02:11 PM
the problem with 101 dalmatians is that its been mined several times, DTV sequel and 2 live action films, plus a third on the way. i honestly dont see a need for a 103 dalmatians film.
Title: Re: 101 Dalmatians 3 film ideas
Post by: Enchanted-Valley96 on July 21, 2020, 12:21:57 PM
Well one thing's for certain.

They would have to get replacements for Patch, Lucky etc.