The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: kjeldo on November 05, 2007, 02:27:47 PM
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i'm bored of watching to the current topics of the GOF. so i started this topic. what will LBT 14 bring us?
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If we haven't even seen LBT 13 yet, how can we possibly guess? Besides, the sequals seem to be only mildly connected. You might as well have started a topic about LBT 30 for all we know about the 14th sequal (It will probably go past that number). :rolleyes: If you really want to specualte about such far away sequals, just type in LBT 14 into google. You'll find tons of fake sequal names for such future sequals, most of them horrible and inappropriate (ie Littlefoot gets lucky with Cera :rolleyes: ). There were a few funny ones though (ie Petire and the sticky goo monster, the wacky twins meet Littlefoot and turn him into a giant purple blob, Cera eats spegetti, Littlefoot upchucks and finds a surprise, the mystery of the giant door that was hungry, and tons of stuff.) :lol My point is, who knows? Your guess is as good as mine. We have almost nothing to base it on except that if they don't have Chomper and Ruby in the 13th one that they might in the 14th. I honestly don't know and I doubt even the people at Universal studios knows at this point in time. Patience is required with these. They only come out once a year around now.
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The only thing that will very likely happen is a brand new character, and maybe more then just one, will appear, be one of the main characters only to vanish maybe to never be seen again. Though they may get to appear in a tv episode. Maybe once a season.
And the GOF will sing some songs also. And one, or maybe more then one, of the characters in the movie may learn an important lesson, that they likely will forget seconds after the movie ends.
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I have no idea what #14 will be about. Personally, I think it ought to focus on one of the characters pasts (such as Petrie; why was he stuck in that tree in the first movie, and what happened to his father), or else explain how Chomper and Ruby came to great valley in the first place, and finally explain how Chomper got off of that island.
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They only come out once a year around now.
*Only* once a year. :p
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As for how Chomper got off the island I can imagine a few possibilities. One is there was another earthshake that undid what the one in the movie did and put the land bridge back. Or Chomper could have eventually asked Elsie to carry him and his parents across. I'm sure his parents could be convinced to not harm Elsie if she carried over to the mainland to where there would be more food then on the island. Those are just my ideas. One of them may be correct, close or totally wrong.
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They only come out once a year around now.
Once a year is too long of a wait for you?
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1 hour and 14 minutes of new LBT entertainment in one year is not very often. I wish they'd hire more people and get them done faster! :) b
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1 hour and 14 minutes of new LBT entertainment in one year is not very often. I wish they'd hire more people and get them done faster! :) b
Aaand I quote:
Well if that happens it wouldn't be the first time two movies were released in one year.
Oh god! Help me! These movies are coming off an assembly line! I don't think it's gonna be too good cuz they made it so fast. I dunno though. LBT 9 was noticablly rushed and it didn't suck...
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I forgot about the length being about the same. Anyway at least those who can watch, download, or through other means watch the tv series will have at least that in addition to the movies. Not to long ago we didn't have even that.
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we probably won't see Ali in these films either. After waiting for 11 years her appearance in the Tv series was brief and disappointing. I hope she appeares in a future LBT film..
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I don't care what happens...so long as guido doesn't come back. I didn't like that guy much.
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I don't care what happens...so long as guido doesn't come back. I didn't like that guy much.
Uh oh. Achillobator ain't going like this.
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why? is that like his favorite character or something?
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Absolutely!
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Oh well. Everyone's entitled to their opinion's I guess.
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Here's some early speculation that will go nowhere fast. You won't see this film for another year or so if at all.
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Besides, 13 isn't out, yet. It's way too soon to start talking about 14.
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It can still be fun though. Discussing what some want, don't want, expect due to past movies having this or that, ect.
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*Pinned*
Feel free to discuss anything to do with LBT 14 right here. :yes
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Hi LBT fans,
I don't like too much bringing bad news, but this little bit of information I've found seems to be a little worrying - If I understood it the right way.
Here's what it says :
Universal Cartoon Studios has shuttered the long-running Land Before Time and continues with the popular Curious George, delighting the tots on PBS.
Source :
http://www.animationguild.org/_Home/home_FRM1.html (http://www.animationguild.org/_Home/home_FRM1.html)
(go to "current pegboard", then see the "what's happening in animation" section)
If you ask if this is reliable news or not, I can tell you this is a very reliable site. I often go there to see if Universal decides one day to make more Balto films (yes I'm more a Balto fan), but when I saw that, I thought I had to tell you about it...
It would still come as a surprise to me, if they decided to stop doing anything Land before time just after having started a TV series, released 12 sequels with one very recently - but then again, they totally forgot about Balto and An american tail after making two sequels, so at the same time...
This may also mean that they've stopped the TV series only, not the sequels, as the Curious george thing they're saying is actually a TV series for young children.
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We'll have to wait and see if it means the movies and series or tv series only. They do call it the long running series. It may mean for good, not sure what they mean by shuttered. They may also still do the one off movie ever year, 2 or 3 years, but may not have an actual team doing one lbt movie after the other. Just assemble the team to work on the movie, then once its finished they go to other projects.
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Shuttered: To cause to cease operations; close down: shuttered the store for the holiday.
You mean...okay, this will need a little more looking into but...that's ugly.
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Ouch, but hardly a surprise. Some of the stuff has been getting really long in the tooth. If Curious George is fresh for the tots, then maybe that's the direction they need to take. I don't really know.
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This could be because of the writer's strike... once that's over, things could go back to normal...
I only found this on blogs... is there any word from Universal itself saying that it is dead?
There would have been some sort of announcement... we would have heard of this some other way... I would like to hear this from a first-hand source before making any declarations.
They also spelled "shuttered" as "shuddered", which means that whoever posted this either doesn't know how to spell ("shuddered" means shivering, "shuttered" means shut down) or doesn't know what they are talking about. This could be some guy who heard a rumor about something and posted it on an otherwise reliable site.
EDIT: One site DID say "shuttered", but I was unable to find a second source for that information. Universal will probably say something about this, if it is really so.
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Maybe it was spelled correctly and they meant the studio is so cold everyone shudders who has to work there. SOrry for the weak joke attempt.
I'm sure we''ll hear something sooner or later. Not sure if there is a site where universal announces such things or not.
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If it is so, it will appear on a source more reliable than a blog.
Also, check the date: Sunday, November 11, 2007.
Doesn't anyone else think that some other site would have corroborated this information by now, or that Universal Studios would have said something about ending the series?
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I'm not sure. The ending of a series is not usually announced as loudly as the beginning of one. It is not unlikely that they would let a series "die quietly". I regret if this information turns out to be true as it would destroy any hopes of the series recovering from the continuous degeneration which (in my opinion) set in with LBT 10. That hope however has always been vague and with the TV series the continuation of the regular sequels became even less likely. We don't know with absolute certainty if the information really means that we have seen the last LBT sequel, but if it does it would not be a big surprise I'm afraid.
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is there any word from Universal itself saying that it is dead?
There would have been some sort of announcement... we would have heard of this some other way...
They didn't do it for An american tail and Balto, for which they stopped doing anything after having made two direct-to-video sequels. Ok, they've not been running since more than one decade like the Land before time sequels, but still.
Stopping a series is always seen as a bad thing, so they never talk about it.
I don't know if it may interest you or not, but we had to send them a petition to know if they definitely stopped the Balto sequels or not. Here's what Glenn Ross answered (he is the head of Universal Studios Home Family Entertainment) :
"We had been entertaining the idea of producing another Balto movie, but the sad truth is that not enough people bought the last one to make it attractive to produce another. You see, in order to be able to produce a film, we have to know enough people are interested in buying it to be able to pay for the cost and marketing.
We really like the Balto character and are pleased to know that there are people like you out there that are such big fans.
My best regards,
DICTATED BUT NOT READ,
Glenn Ross
Of course I'm not saying that this little bit of info is absolutely true, I just wanted to inform you that you shouldn't be surprised if they stopped the TV series and/or the LBT sequels...
I still think it's bad news, one more company turning to 3D...(yes Universal is preparing its first 3D animated film, The Tale of Despereaux which is to be released late 2008)
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Where did the information that the Balto series had been stopped come from? The "announcement" the the land before the series had been stopped came from a blog. Blogs aren't known for their reliability.
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I said it : it came from a petition WE (the fans from my site)sent them. One of the member (the one who sent the petition) received the letter/answer and typed it.
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All the big talk is about TV. Yeah, the TV series is probably dead, but c'mon, I mean, curious george movies??? :blink: Gimme a break! I thought that was just a tv series. I never liked that show even as a kid. :rolleyes: Balto went quite after only a few movies, whereas LBT has been through 13 movies and a tv series. The probability of curious george taking over the series is close to none. I mean, it was old news when I was born. :rolleyes:
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I had contacted the author of this information, and it is confirmed...Here's what he answered :
Land Before Time (series and features) is shut down. Its longtime director Charles Grovesnor has moved on to other projects.
Nothing (that I know of) re "Balto."
Don't have any e-mail contacts, I get my information by walking through the place.
Best,
Steve Hulett
I'm really, really sorry to bring so much bad news, because I know how much it hurts. I HATE Universal. Especially that I know that they will do the same thing that they did for An American tail, We're back and Balto : totally forget about it.
Money, money, money...
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It seems the sad truth. Though we can keep it alive with fanfiction, rp and such. And some of the fan fiction, if not a lot, can be better then some of the movies and tv episodes.
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Took a chance and emailed Universal directly:
To who it may concern:
I operate the Land Before Time fansite located at http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive (http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive) and it has come to our attention through the Animation Guild blog that all production has ceased on Land Before Time projects. Is it an accurate statement that Universal Family Entertainment is no longer continuing production on the Land Before Time movies and television series? Additionally, can we expect anything regarding an anniversary release of the original film in the foreseeable future?
Thank you.
[my name]
Founder, the Gang of Five
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I suppose it doesn't look good. Not at all. Still, Charles Grosvenor has left the series, I think we can be sure of that. The new guy who directed the 13th movie might still be going at it, however... maybe. I expect the worst. This is... abrupt.
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This bit of news does seem shocking, but I think it's too early to call it official. When I see Universal's reply to Petrie's email, then I'll know what to say about this.
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Dang! If this is true, then this is quite some sad news. :(
*sighs* I was hoping for at least one last sequal. Something big to end it all off of that we could be proud of. I just can't believe it ended this way, despite what everyone has said or will say.
Oh well! Had to end sometime, right? -_-
At least I'll find some way to make my fanfic end big when the time comes. :)
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At least I'll find some way to make my fanfic end big when the time comes.
That's the sort of positive attitude Malte is taking on.
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That's truly sad news. But it's still not official so there might be a chance.
LBT can't just end like this. There are still many things to explain. Like how Ruby and Chomper met each other and how Chomper got off the island.
That's not a really good start for a new year. :unsure:
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This bit of news does seem shocking
Shocking....this for me is mind shattering...I can't believe this is actually happening...but official or not...that's why we fans create fanfiction...and I do plan on continuing mine and end it with a bang! (And then creating two or three sequals depending on my mood :lol )
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Land Before Time (series and features) is shut down.
Does that mean TV series? Are the sequels dead too?
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It is a possibility LBTlover and that's the truly scary part.
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There's no official confirmation YET. Let's hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
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Nothing yet guys. I don't expect a response...I'd be more surprised to just get one, never mind the message it contains.
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No reason we can't continue,and perhaps do a better job then they would have done.
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perhaps do a better job then they would have done.
Until we can produce a professional-looking animated feature, with some of our favorite voice actors...
as good as fan stories may be, it won't be the same... :cry
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I meant in the quality of the writing.
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If I'm ever super rich (which is a good possibility), I'll continue the series even if Universal refuses to. If they end it now, I'll never forgive them for making me spend my cash, but it'll be worth it. :p LBT won't die as long as I survive. :D
As for them ending the production of the sequels, I don't find that likely since LBT 13 is just flying off the shelves in all major department stores I've been in. The LBT tv series got off to a rough start and it was just down hill from there. I can tell you that they did lose a lot of money from the dumb tv series. It was a bad idea. I mean, the whole concept of LBT makes it impossible to create a tv series without making it just stupid. <_< LBT isn't like any other shows I've really seen. There's not a lot that can happen, certainly not enough to make 200+ mini movies out of it, which is usually how many episodes are in a tv series. I mean, you've got a self contained environment/ecosystem and nothing but nature. There are limited things you can do that would be interesting, especially to children. A tv series was the worst idea I've ever hear of for LBT. It's what makes it so different that makes it also have appeal to adults as well though. Movies of LBT are great because you've got a year or two to plan it out and make a decent story. Trying to shoot decent movies that are 1/3 of a sequel in such a limited amount of time was a bad idea. Humans naturally resist what's different or unexpected. LBT is not your typical child show. Kids don't like LBT as much as other tv shows because of it. I doubt someone would have called the sequels a "series" as the person did in the letter. If they work around the movies and tv stations, they know the difference between sequels and series. :rolleyes: In conclusion, yeah it is possible that LBT is done for, but not likely.
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Now that you mention it, LBTlover, you're right, the TV series was a bad idea for Universal. If the sequals aren't discontinued, this is what I'd like to see for LBT 14: an official story on how Chomper got off his island, how he met Ruby, and how they were eventually accepted into the Great Valley. Such a sequal could make up for some of the problems caused by the TV series.
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They should not have done a a tv series. As nice as it is to have more episodes then movies in just one year's time they could have focused more on quality and such then quantity.
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I don't care if they finish that Ruby/Chomper story or not. As far as I'm concerned, they never came to the great valley. I'd much rather have Universal quietly sweep this TV series mess under the rug and continue making great quality sequels for years to come. :D
Also, I don't want them to try to integrate the tv series and the sequels. It'll just be a mess and might make them lose even more money. Just sweep it under the rug and give us our sequels back. Stop being so greedy that you need to make a TV series. :rolleyes: Everyone was just fine with the movies before. A year is a long time to wait, but it's worth the wait if you give us decent material. B)
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Y'know, I wouldn't be suprised if the guy who posted that misunderstood the announcement(or whatever), and in reality it only pertained to the TV series. Curious George is a TV series, right? It'd make sense: keep the more succesful one, get rid of the one that didn't need it anyway.
Or maybe we're the ones who're misunderstanding it, and that's the message he was trying to get across in the first place.
Meh, I liked the TV series, but it's not too big a loss. It does leave the most absurdly large plothole in the whole series (seriously, I want to know how the hell Chomper got off the island), and was excellent for returning characters, but I suppose I can live with it. As long as the sequels are still going, I'm good.
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The mistake was starting the TV Series when they did. If they wanted to do a TV show they should have done it back in the mid-90s, not in the 2000s. Dad already knew the TV show wasn't going to last too long because they waited too long to make one.
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True, earlier it may have done better, but not this late. The same thing would be if they decided to do a James Bond tv series. It likely would not last to long for the same reason.
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The mistake was starting the TV Series when they did. If they wanted to do a TV show they should have done it back in the mid-90s, not in the 2000s. Dad already knew the TV show wasn't going to last too long because they waited too long to make one.
I still don't think they could have made 200+ episodes.....not good ones anyways. Most TV series I've seen has at least 160 episodes, and thats when they end before they're supposed to cuz they run out of money or something.
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There seems to be a number of curious george movies out, but nothing that makes it seem like a series or anything:
http://www.amazon.com/Curious-George-Chara...TF8&node=768982 (http://www.amazon.com/Curious-George-Characters-DVD/b?ie=UTF8&node=768982)
They're not numbered and they look like just the tv episodes on dvd.
What a cheesy show. They don't even bother to rate the movies. :rolleyes: It looks......lame. Good to someone who's 2yrs or below, but nothing more. LBT isn't THAT childish. :p
Yeah, theres one movie, but all the rest say this:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61REuZHqsbL._SS500_.jpg)
From the "Hit tv series" :rolleyes: :lol
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Why would they even want to make 200 episodes? That seems too excessive in my opinion.
Anyway the TV show would probably have been better had it been made in the 90s because LBT was at its peak in popularity during this time. Commercials were much more common and sometimes there would even be custom LBT stands to hold the latest movie (as it was in one of the stores in my area when LBT 4 was first released).
But nowadays, LBT popularity has waned dramatically compared to how it was in the 90s, most likely due to too many sequels being released in my opinion. I don't see commercials anymore, and I don't see copies of LBT in stores that much anymore. 2006 was probably one of the worst times to make a TV show.
What I think they should have done was stop the movie sequels at 4 or 5 and then release the TV series then.
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But nowadays, LBT popularity has waned dramatically compared to how it was in the 90s, most likely due to too many sequels being released in my opinion.
Is it so? I'm not convinced that LBT popularity has really waned. Never before have there been so many active members in the GOF. Never before have there been so many new members joining us. Never before have there been so many land before time fans not just writing occasionally about something concerning LBT but spending lots of time on the creation of LBT fanart and fanfiction. The first time I discovered and joined a land before time forum was in 2000 (almost year after the release of LBT 6 and a while before LBT 7 was announced in the internet). Activity in the forum back then was limited mostly to a small number of diehard fans and a number of occasional visitors. I am not sure if increased advertising is necessarily a sign for a greater popularity of LBT.
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Hmm I see. I'm still having a hard time believing popularity in LBT hasn't declined over the years. I'm sorry.
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I tried to contact Aria for getting confirmation, but instead her representative answered me, and confirmed the same thing. I think you should find this email interesting as well :
Yes, for a long time the new regime tried to kill the series, they did everything possible, released new ones in mid January instead of Christmas, (the videos) so they could say they were not selling as well, changed the series airing time on cartoon network several times so the poor little kids had to keep looking for it or lose interest. The first air time was for little toddlers and no weekends for older kids who would be very interested. Only true and rabid fans cared. The old true producing staff for these shows (LBT, Balto) were wonderful people professionally and personally. The new people that take over in this kind of case just want to dump all the old shows and put on edgier stuff, so it has their signature, and they want to pay the actors very little, and hope to pay them no residuals from sales as well. It is this same callousness and greed that has us in the current writers strike. It is sad.
Will let you know if we can find out anything. Anything is possible. If the "glorious" minds of the current crop of people in power think they can make a personal fortune by re starting or re-releasing something, they will.
Yes I am a bit cynical if you can't tell. I have heard and seen too much. I liked the simple days when there were really good people at Universal Animation. Now it seems all about them keeping money for themselves however they can. Even if Balto and LBT had more fans than any other shows they would not want to keep their finger on the pulse of what people want. They want to DRIVE people and steer them into wanting whatever it is the animation companies want to push.
Sad.
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So in other words no one really knows if LBT will continue but the head departments want to close it down so they can create shows with their names on it? What selfish bastards! :angry: They're trying to make people quit by paying them next to nothing so they can say that it was just not profitable to keep the show running? That really makes me mad. :mad :bang F*** the heads of Universal! I really hate selfish people like that. :mad
EDIT: I will never buy another movie made by Universal again if they close LBT for that reason. :angry:
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Oy. That's all I have to say. I typically don't own a lot of Universe movies outside of their animated stuff, anyway, so my boycotting them, sadly, wouldn't make a difference.
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So in other words no one really knows if LBT will continue but the head departments want to close it down so they can create shows with their names on it?
It's not exactly that, from what I can understand, the new staff didn't really want to continue with the projects the previous staff worked on, and wants to do new things in a different way.
I'm still wondering which projects this new staff has in mind, because except for the Curious george TV series, we haven't seen anything else coming from them yet.
Oy. That's all I have to say. I typically don't own a lot of Universe movies outside of their animated stuff, anyway, so my boycotting them, sadly, wouldn't make a difference.
Yes, boycot wouldn't make much difference; I truly don't know what we could do.
A year ago we had started a petition asking for a Balto special edition DVD, so far it got 1000 signatures, but from what I can see sending them the petition in the current situation would be simply useless.
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I'm not suggesting a boycott. I'm just not going to give them my money for closing down LBT. LBT is old, but it's still alive and kicking. It still grabs the attention of all audiences. They'd be really stupid to let it go. Me refusing to give them money doesn't hurt them much, but it merely makes me feel better that I'm not going to keep paying them after they close my favorite show.
I'm still wondering which projects this new staff has in mind, because except for the Curious george TV series, we haven't seen anything else coming from them yet.
Wouldn't it just be easier to keep doing the same shows? That's like buying a gas station that was doing great and having tons of business and then turning it into something else from scratch which wouldn't make you any more money than the gas station would have except it entails a lot more work. It just doesn't make sense.
It's not exactly that, from what I can understand, the new staff didn't really want to continue with the projects the previous staff worked on, and wants to do new things in a different way.
But didn't this new staff come on before the production of LBT 13? They did make another movie. I don't know. Maybe they don't want to continue LBT but they'll be forced to by a person who is higher up because it'll make them more money if they do.
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But didn't this new staff come on before the production of LBT 13? They did make another movie.
Yes and no, we can't know for sure, as even DTV sequels take at least 2 years to make. Maybe the film was already in pre-production when the staff changed.
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So... they're TRYING to kill the series, but they haven't succeeded yet... is that it?
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It seems that they are just making these sequels ovrnight. They only came out with LBT12 a few months ago and now they have LBt 13 and may be working on 14. The sequels may be a little better if they would actually put more time into them.
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Question, isn't holding money back like this illegal?
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Thanks boris for the letter. Seems I might've sent the email to the wrong party to get a response. :P:
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Wouldn't it just be easier to keep doing the same shows? That's like buying a gas station that was doing great and having tons of business and then turning it into something else from scratch which wouldn't make you any more money than the gas station would have except it entails a lot more work. It just doesn't make sense.
I don't think doing the same shows all the time is profitable in the long run. They would want to attract more people, and possibly the best way to do that, in my opinion, is start a new show. Plus I don't think they would want to keep working on the same show all the time because they could get "burned out" on them. You know, run out of ideas, lose inspiration.
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I don't think they would want to keep working on the same show all the time because they could get "burned out" on them. You know, run out of ideas, lose inspiration.
A good point, DarkHououmon, I can agree on that one. If LBT ends that way, I'll accept it. But intentionally forcing to end it? Now that's just not fair! :angry:
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This wouldn't be the first time I've heard something like this happen. I've heard something similar happened with that Sonic cartoon SatAM and the Nicktoon Angry Beavers. For SatAM, I heard it was cancelled simply because the new director hated it or something, and for Angry Beavers, they deliberately got it low ratings by airing the show at horrible times as revenge for something.
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Land Before Time (series and features) is shut down. Its longtime director Charles Grovesnor has moved on to other projects.
The best we can hope for, then, is that either this information is baloney (which is seeming to be not very likely), or that another director will pick up from where Charles left off. Either way, ending the series now with the note LBT 13 left on and the huge plot-hole created by the TV series is definitely not the best way to end it. However, it may well be possible that this writer's strike has finally "hit where it hurts" for us LBT fans.
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I think Kacie has brought up a point that all of us have missed or failed to mention: you get burned out on a project or run out of ideas. Let's remember this: LBT has been going on for an unusually long time for kids programming. The only kids show that comes to mind that has gone on for longer, is Scooby Doo. However, because Scooby is set in the modern world with humans, its a bit easier to create new plots, even if they are repetitive and there's nothing new from the original 60s version of the show. If the bigwigs at Universal are thinking on the same line that nothing really new can be done, then maybe it is so. There are times when it is simply not worth continuing for the sake of continuing, and based on what I've seen on reviews for LBT 13, they've about milked the cow dry. Its not great news, but its the ultimate fate of ANY entertainment franchise. All the greats end up this way--maybe its just LBT's time too. I can bet a lot of people weren't happy to see Full House, Friends, Seinfeld, etc. etc. etc. come to an end, but they all have and I don't think people are any less happy without new episodes for the sake of new material.
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Surely the writers could come up with more ideas. LBT is still so movable and flexable.
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Surely the writers could come up with more ideas. LBT is still so movable and flexable.
I don't believe they should continue LBT if they don't want to.
I've mixed feelings about this decision. Part of me is glad LBT is finally ending. The other part of me is a bit disappointed that it didn't get a proper ending.
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Well, if they're going to end it, they should at least do something big for it. It's just not right to end such a large franchise like they are. -_-
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Right or not, it's their decision. Although there is probably still some chance that they'll change their mind and work on a new sequel.
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They may well do another movie at some point in the years to come, either revisit or do a new version at some point in the future, they do that with some things that were successful in the past.
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There is much more that can be shown:
1. Explain how Chomper got off of the island and met Ruby, as well as explain the whole Redclaw story.
2. Resolve exactly how Chomper (and Ruby?) will find a way to live together with the plant-eaters, or else show that doing so is impossible.
3. If they are going to end the series, advance time and show the characters in a more adult form, and end the series on the note it began; with the children of the original characters hatching.
4. Remember the "Great Longneck Test"? Littlefoot proved that he could be a good leader in that thing... Perhaps he ought to be made leader of a herd. Maybe he'll merge his herd with Ali's... and have to fight Rhett (Ret?) to get at her.
5. If enough time passes, Pterano can return.
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Or some of them may join Bron's herd. At least I was going to have that as part of the back story of my the gang as adults rp. At least Littlefoot, Ali (who would be mates) and Chomper would have joined Bron's herd.
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I agree that there are quite a few themes which could be picked up and turned into a great LBT movie. There are quite a few options left. I don't think I would be among those who would be glad to see an LBT movie with a kind of definite ending. Something open like the ending of the original movie is much less oppressive on our own land before time; the land before time we have in our minds when we think of our own stories.
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There are at least two unresolved story lines:
1. Obviously, the Chomper-Ruby story is unfinished; heck, we don't even know how it began (they just showed up in the valley.)
2. While they set up Littlefoot potential to be the leader of a herd in movie 10 and touched on it again in a TV episode, they haven't finished it.
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I'm not trying to bash LBT 13, but they should have explained some things or had something cool happen instead of having them meet some lame fake creatures. :rolleyes: I mean, there's tons of things they could do that would be just wonderful. I think a sequel like LBT 13 should have been their last resort. They've just got so much other material they could've used for another LBT sequel. Why choose to take the last resort of making new characters (and fake one's at that!)? Maybe LBT 13 was an attempt to kill LBT? I mean, taking other ideas besides the theme in LBT 13 is a no brainer. :rolleyes: With the tv series, they've introduced so many plot ideas into LBT, but instead they choose to make some lame theme that makes it look like they're just shooting the movies out to make their money as fast as possible.
EDIT: I don't know if I'm glad or not that Petrie hasn't gotten a reply to the email he sent Universal. :bang
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While they set up Littlefoot potential to be the leader of a herd in movie 10 and touched on it again in a TV episode, they haven't finished it.
I don't know anything about the TV episode, but why should Littlefoot be a potential leader of a herd in LBT 10? Because he is the son of Bron? I am not sure if the human rules of hereditary leadership could be applied to LBT dinosaurs. Moreover it is not likely that a dinosaur who probably has yet to reach his teens would be designated as the leader of a herd of grownups.
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Does LIttlefoot really know enough to be a herd leader anyway? You have to advance a few years to see that plotline.
Also, no, no email reply.
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While they set up Littlefoot potential to be the leader of a herd in movie 10 and touched on it again in a TV episode, they haven't finished it.
I don't know anything about the TV episode, but why should Littlefoot be a potential leader of a herd in LBT 10? Because he is the son of Bron? I am not sure if the human rules of hereditary leadership could be applied to LBT dinosaurs. Moreover it is not likely that a dinosaur who probably has yet to reach his teens would be designated as the leader of a herd of grownups.
It really revolves around the TV episode "The Big Longneck Test." It'd be better if you could just bring yourself up to see it for yourself than for me to try to explain it.
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There was only 2 bad LBT tv eps Malte. You should really go watch them, making sure to skip "the brave longneck scheme" where they totally ruin Ali's reappearance. The other one was bad, but I'd still watch it if I were you.
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And I still don't think they ruined Ali's appearance or made her out of character. There's no excuse not to watch them all if you're going to watch most of them, anyway.
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there is a chance my creation of a LBT story might find it way into the line light, but that only a chance, not sure what really happening at the moment.
That is a story that I have completed 2 years ago and haven't shown to anyone part from family and close friends.
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I bet it's very well written, unlike the garbage I write. It seems everyone who writes here, apart from me, writes very well. So I'm sure your stuff is well written.
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yeah it was and had help from a friend of Aria's mum who typed my story up for me and he even liked how it been layed out so there hope with it but that only a chance of it happening. it could or couldn't. just have to wait and see with that one.
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A chance is a chance, right?
I bet your story is well written. Wonder what's going on in your story. Hmm.. I'm too curious again. :bang
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You are likely a better writer then you think, unlike a garbage writer like myself I"m sure your stuff is very well done.
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Let me get this straight, Threehorn, you wrote an LBT story and there's a chance that it could become an actual LBT sequel?
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There is much more that can be shown:
1. Explain how Chomper got off of the island and met Ruby, as well as explain the whole Redclaw story.
2. Resolve exactly how Chomper (and Ruby?) will find a way to live together with the plant-eaters, or else show that doing so is impossible.
3. If they are going to end the series, advance time and show the characters in a more adult form, and end the series on the note it began; with the children of the original characters hatching.
4. Remember the "Great Longneck Test"? Littlefoot proved that he could be a good leader in that thing... Perhaps he ought to be made leader of a herd. Maybe he'll merge his herd with Ali's... and have to fight Rhett (Ret?) to get at her.
5. If enough time passes, Pterano can return.
Exactly.
But I have a bizzare feeling that the LBT sequels will propel it back into the limelight or drag it to a terrible end.
I REFUSE an LBT ending akin to the ending of the Sopranos!! :x
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I think that if the series is shut down for personal gain, then the people responsible are selfish buggers! I mean, selish behavior like that belongs in gangs, the mob, and other criminal organizations. Not in big entertainment corporations!
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Funny that you are mentioning the mob. I'm watching "The Godfather" as I type this. Anyway, we don't have the slightest idea on whether or not LBT is still profitable for those who make it. Of course I would rather have them continue LBT and continue LBT with some good sequels. But to suggest that those people were criminals etc. is going a bit too far even in jest.
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I am saying that that kind of behavior is for criminals. I am not accusing anybody of that.
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HELLO!! this is an topic about LBT 14! not about the end of LBT!!! thank you! :angry:
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HELLO!! this is an topic about LBT 14! not about the end of LBT!!! thank you! :angry:
I know that...
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But think about it, if it's the end of LBT, then why talk about LBT 14 if it will naver exist? :p
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I hope LBT 14 is longer than the previous sequels. -_- :) :) Plus I pray to god I hope they show something that will literally shock everyone here and the LBT universe. :) :) :lol :lol
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HELLO!! this is an topic about LBT 14! not about the end of LBT!!! thank you! :angry:
I know that...
Now I hoping both you and Kjeldo don't start conflict here. Everyone here is not going to like that tone voice from both of you. <_< <_< <_< <_< :unsure: :unsure: -_- -_- -_-
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Sorry. I wasn't trying to start a conflict.
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I hope LBT 14 is longer than the previous sequels.
They're over an hour long each already. How long do they have to be? :blink:
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How about 3-4 hours? That could be neat.
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Nah.
3-4 hours are too long for me for a sequel. =/
But maybe for a grande finale. Hmm...
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Plus I pray to god I hope they show something that will literally shock everyone here and the LBT universe.
Please not. There were so many shocks in the last few episodes already. If ever there should be an LBT 14 I would be glad about something that delights LBT fans rather than shocks them. As LBT fans are (luckily) not a homogeneous group if it comes to defining what is shocking or delightful I suppose it would be not easy though to find anything that would be answered with universal acclaim.
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I don't know, one of the pieces of dialogue in Journey to Big Water kinda startled me. Littlefoot was talking about how he wished his mother had left him a little brother or something like that, and the line was delivered in like...annoyance. I dunno, I just never expected a character like Littlefoot to say something like that, even if he was bored out of his poor little skull. :blink:
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Not too hard to imagine. What else is a young dino supposed to think about when he's so bored and his friends are all occupied. I thought it fit in rather nicely myself.
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I didn't really have a problem with that line either. To me it sounded like he was frustrated about being all by himself for the time being (so much about "when you're on your own" :lol) but did not "blame" his mother for it.
One interesting aspect of his statement is that perhaps (not necessarily) Littlefoot was also missing somebody of his own kind and age to hang out with at times. I do not suggest that Littlefoot is in any way racist, but remembering the original movie's statement of his mother that there would be many longnecks for him to play with in the Great Valley it doesn't really look like it. The only longnecks of his age he is ever dealing with in the sequels (I'm not referring to the TV episodes in which I understand at least one other longneck of Littlefoot's age to turn up) are Ali and Shorty, both of whom are there for just a little while. Petrie and Ducky have their siblings. In Cera's case it seems at least likely that she knows some other threehorns though she may not be too fond of them (LBT 5 "too bossy"). In case of Spike we see how fascinated he is at the idea of getting to know some of his own kind in LBT 8. Of all the maincharacters Littlefoot is really the one who seems to be least involved with peers of his own species. It may be too far an interpretation of his "I wish my mum had given me a brother" statement, but I think it is an interesting thought to pursue all the same.
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Yes, he's likely just annoyed at being alone with no one to hang out with or to play with and wishes he had someone, like a brother. Though now in the tv series he likely has Chomper who has no parents to make him do stuff when he'd rather be with Littlefoot.
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Chomper's nice, but he still isn't a longneck. And it's a bit late for the producers to add another relative.
Anyway, this is supposed to be about LBT 14, not 9. Let's deviate back to the original topic.
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I wonder if Universal is acctually considering making an LBT 14. :unsure:
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I think I saw something on Wikipedia affirming that, but you can't be quite sure.
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We'll have to wait and see. If Universal thinks they can make money from it they'll likely get around to making one. I doubt they'd turn down a way to make money.
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We'll have to wait and see. If the studio heads think they can make money from it they'll likely get around to making one. I doubt they'd turn down a way to make money.
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I wonder if Universal is acctually considering making an LBT 14.
Are you kidding? I had my doubts earlier too, but Universal is really pushing LBT now. They're coming out with plushies and toys at walmart and they're airing the tv episodes again. I think it's far from dead. B)
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There may be a 14, maybe in 1-3 years roughly.
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I think I saw something on Wikipedia affirming that, but you can't be quite sure.
Alas Wikipedia has always been very unreliable if it comes to information about LBT.
Are you kidding? I had my doubts earlier too, but Universal is really pushing LBT now. They're coming out with plushies and toys at walmart and they're airing the tv episodes again. I think it's far from dead.
I wish I could agree and share your optimism. However, the recent release of LBT stuff need not mean there will be another episode. I really hope it does, but it could also mean the last milking of the cow after some attention was brought to it through the TV series.
I really wish LBT was continued (in a way better than what we have seen in the last years), but looking at what Aria's mother said perspectives seem to be rather gloomy :(
There may be a 14, maybe in 1-3 years roughly.
Perhaps so. This is the straw we must cling to. There was a break after the release of LBT 6 which seemed to suggest LBT 6 as the last one. Back then however we didn't have any of the discouraging information we've got this time.
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I think I saw something on Wikipedia affirming that, but you can't be quite sure.
The only thing on Wikipedia now is a redlink (which is a link to a non-existant page) linking to Land Before Time 14, with a "To Be Announced" tacked on the end. Unless what you saw was deleted, that's not really enough to enure a sequel.
However, I think there will be a sequel, and many more. One of the things I find fascinating about Land Before Time is the fact that it has absolutely nothing that could end the series on it's own:
--Since it is animated, there are no actors to leave the studio, and therefore no chance at losing the main characters.
--Since no character has maintained the same voice actor throughout, this means that a character will never have to be retired because their voice actor does.
--There are obviously no legal rights involved, since the original creators allowed others to produce sequels.
--There is a massive fan base, ranging from very young children to college students to adults. It is unlikely that all these age groups will give the series up anytime soon.
These factors give the LBT franchie a potential unlimited expiration date, and I see nothing that might bring it down to it's knees any time soon.
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--Since no character has maintained the same voice actor throughout, this means that a character will never have to be retired because their voice actor does.
Technically, only one really has had the same voice...and that would be Grandpa Longneck when he gained speaking roles in the second sequel or about 1994. Petrie would apply in this situation as well having the same actor since 1994.
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Oh, yeah. Still, I think it would be rather easy for them to find a new voice actor, if need be. They've been able to do it or other characters.
All the talk of ending LBT for good started scaring me, since there seemed to be so many good reasons given for why it may happen. But, after reviewing the last four pages of dscussion, I've dcided that there really is no reason to be as nervous of a potential shut down as some people are.
Here are the 3 main reasons I've seen to justify a potential end to the series.
1) The mention of the phrase "Land Before Time" at the end of LBT13 sounded like it was placed there as a series closer.
True (kinda), but other than that nothing has been shown anywhere else to suggest that. No websites, Land Before Time, Universal Studios, or otherwise related, have said anything suggesting the series is on it's last leg. Never once has anything called LBT 13 "The last adventure" or "a thrilling conclusion." It's always been referred to as "the latest sequel," or "another wonderful adventure."
2)The newest group running Land Before Time wants to drop it and other 2007cruft and start brand-new series, due to potential money accruement, and possibly the "Founder Effect."
While it is true that people want to be the starter of something new, it's also true that starting off with a giant fan base is important as well, and much more potentially profitable. Actively attempting to destroy a fan base is bad marketing, as well as bad publicity if word get out (we've already seen one user here decide to boycott Universal Studios just from hearing that they plan to do this).
Also, this isn't the first time LBT has changed hands. Bluth, Lucas, and Spielburg controlled LBT at it's genesis, Roy Allen Smith took it over for the next 3 movies, and Grosvenor has had it for the next 8 movies. This is just another passing of the baton, one which hopefully will yield a new take on the LBT universe.
3)A new release of Land Before Time toys and other accessories is an attempt to squeeze as much money as possible from a dying series.
This logic would be much more appropriate for the release of a brand new stand-alone movie, which was popular when it was relaeased, but the producers, knowing it would fall into obscurity soon, cranked out loads of toys, t-shirts, and other spinoff stuff. It is unlikely that they would do this for a long-running and stable series.
Also, even if somehow the franchise is cancelled, that doesn't mean it will never be revived. Due to the reasons I stated two posts ago, this series would be one of the easiest to restore that I've ever seen. Not that I think it'll get to that point any time soon.
(Also, on a completely unrelated topic, this is the post that'll make me a junior! :birthday )
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--Since no character has maintained the same voice actor throughout, this means that a character will never have to be retired because their voice actor does.
Technically, only one really has had the same voice...and that would be Grandpa Longneck when he gained speaking roles in the second sequel or about 1994. Petrie would apply in this situation as well having the same actor since 1994.
Wouldn't Ducky and Cera cera count too? I'm pretty sure ever since LBT 2 these 2 have been the same voice actressess as well.
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They did not. From the original movie to LBT 4 Cera was voiced by Candace Hutson since LBT 5 by Anndi McAffee (I'm not a hundred percent, but quite sure about LBT 11 to 12, I don't know about LBT 13).
In case of Ducky, she was voiced by Heather Hogan up to LBT 4 and by Aria Noelle Curzon ever since.
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since LBT 5 by Anndi McAffee (I'm not a hundred percent, but quite sure about LBT 11 to 12, I don't know about LBT 13)
to support your guess, Anndi McAffee did indeed voice Cera for LBT 11, 12, and 13. i honestly think she does a much better job as Cera than the other actress.
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Don't forget about Rob Paulsen playing Spike since LBT 2. He even showed off his voicing talent on SEVERAL occasions.
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He's been doing Spike since 2? That is a long time. Is he the longest one who's been doing the same character on LBT?
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I thiink the payse betwen sequels may be a good thing. the series bombed to be frank, and so far the revirews for LBT 13 have not been great. if they could have the next onne directed towards an audience composing of more than just younger kids, they would likely see interest in Lbt climb up.
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That is often how hollywood thinks, oh they have lost interest. Instead of thinking, we need to get good writers to work on this and write it for all ages, kids, adults, teens, ect.
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Bringing Ali back would be one such case. if handled correctly, it could be a a story that really brings Lbt back towards its roots. The first movies didn't mince words, neither should a well-written sequel. the unfortunate problem is, the recent sequels have all been geared towards klittle kids. That's understanable, but it neglects those older fans who grew up with the original and still hold an affinity for LBT.
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True, if you do not write for those, your success will be limited or doomed. One must write for long time fans and new fans. As well as varying age groups.
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The last of those sequels imo Kor was LBT 5. Since LBt 6, with rare exception, we've seen the series become kiddified. Harmless sharptteeth, to use just one big example. Lbt 10 was a big contradiction to LBT 1, since it bbrought in Littlefoot's father. I could haave tolerated it more, had he been brought in much earlier and in a way that wasn't so.. stretched..
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True. For 10 I treat it as occuring on another earth, though I do that with quite a few of the movies. LBt earth 1, 2, ect. To me Bron may not exist on lbt earth 1, just like Ali may not exist on lbt earth 2, since it seems she never got the dream Littlefoot did.
I now most will say they all fit onto 1 earth, but I prefer to do them as being on 2 or more earths. If you don't like the way I do things tough. I do a lot of things that way. Perhaps off topic but it is one of the multiple reasons I'll never gm here.
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Ali was raidsed near the Great Valley, she was far more familar with it then Littlefoot or his herd was.. there's some plot holes in there, but nothing that can'e be explained in another story.. Which We're still waiting for that, one episode in the Tv series nonwithstanding. Ali was an attempt imo, at a 'love interest' for littlefoot, a fairly successful attempt, because we're still discussing her and she was voted as the 6th favorite character of all time by forum members here.
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Odd that she didn't return for another movie like Chomper did.
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Yes, I'm suprised they didn't bring her back, at theend of LBT 4 they did say Littlefoot and his friebnnds would meert Ali again some day..'that 'some day' has not come in 12 years...
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Well, the longer some event being prepared, the more special it will be. :)
P.S. Something definitely wrong with the previous phrase. :rolleyes:
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I think what you are trying to say is "absence makes the heart grow fonder" While that is true, It would be nice if Universal brings Ali backl for LBT 14 in an important role... I for one am tired of waiting!
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It would be nice, though perhaps she will, and perhaps not.
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They wouldn't have mentioned her retun if she wasn't going to return at some point..
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Well, she did return in the TV series, but this is the sequels we are talking about. I hope LBT 14 is as good as all the others :D
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I'm sure we all hope the same thing.
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i hope that he is better than LBT 11.
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I hoping LBT 14 gives us good results that we've never seen before.
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If XIV can raise the bar set by X, I'll be soooooooo happy.
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Other than the protagonists in the series what new charcter do you guys think we will be introduced too? Plus who will reappear in LBT 14?
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there is a chance my creation of a LBT story might find it way into the line light, but that only a chance, not sure what really happening at the moment.
That is a story that I have completed 2 years ago and haven't shown to anyone part from family and close friends.
I hope ya get your sequel. Man! What an honor it would be for ya to say "I wrote that." Even if it is LBT, I still think that's awesome. Best wishes and good luck to ya :yes :^.^:.
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So in other words no one really knows if LBT will continue but the head departments want to close it down so they can create shows with their names on it? What selfish bastards! :angry: They're trying to make people quit by paying them next to nothing so they can say that it was just not profitable to keep the show running? That really makes me mad. :mad :bang F*** the heads of Universal! I really hate selfish people like that. :mad
EDIT: I will never buy another movie made by Universal again if they close LBT for that reason. :angry:
I totally agree :angry:. If those dirtbags really are trying to destroy the series, I shall boycott them as well <_< -_-. Capitalism outta be donned the eighth deadly sin. I don't know about the rest of y'all, but if they do LBT dirty, this will be my reaction:
:cry2 :cry2 :cry2 :cry2 :cry2 :cry2 :cry2 :cry2 :cry2 :cry2 :cry2 :cry2
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there been a high increase in sales of LBT dvds and products in the USA that from what I know of Universal cowboys who might try this stunt is back firing on them cause of this exploring increase in love for LBT by the young kids.
Including the UK with the DVD movies, they released far more earilar then before that LBT now has a firm strong hold plus with the many people young and our age groups still watching the LBT and keeping it alive in many ways. Universal having to rethink and keep LBT going. Plus with stories like my one popping up at their doorsteps they getting the creativtiy to keep it going.
So there is a very good chance LBT will still go on. That what I believe anyhow and from what i looked at from information. Since they have brought out more new figure toys for kids.
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This is indeed very good news. Thanks for the info. :yes
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It is true that many younger kids, ya know the one's that are actually watching this show because it's "age appropriate" are liking the show more and more, but I do not believe that your statement saying that it's common for other people our age to watch LBT. It's not common not so much because it's hated by others our age, but because it takes a certain type of person to break outside the social norms for something they like and those kind of people are just about as rare as the relation to how many members we have here to the number of people in the world. I don't know if all that made much sense, but aw well.
Anyways, I have noticed an explosion of LBT toys and movies. I've also noticed walmart seems to be almost out of LBT movies every time I go. The movie covers are eye catching, if still hideous. :p I still can't believe though that LBT 12, 13, and the tv ep DVD's had no cover. I think I know why though. The LBT haters at Universal studios are taking all of their LBT budget and putting it into toy production and stuff, hoping it won't be a success and they can use that as an excuse to shut down LBT, however it's backfiring on them because everyone's buying them and loving them. They spent every penny on toy production and didn't feel it necessary to spend any more money on the DVD covers. This is great! In your face you LBT hating Bas*****! :D
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Yeeehaw!
*Laughs manically while pointing at screen*
Y'all are right. That is great news :yes. To all ya LBT hatin' SOBs: :nyah :nyah! LBT is anything but dead :yes. Excuse my implied language. This is really such awesome news :D.
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The added benefit of the LBT toys is even if kids have not seen any of the movies or tv series, can still like the toys if they enjoy dinosaurs.
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Good point. In my opinion, that's why these toys became such a success. If they see the toys, they'll want to see the movies and TV show, not the other way around.
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Yeah, but they might be disappointed when they see the movie:
Little kid: Mama! Mama!
Mother: What is it?
Little kid: Littlefoot doesn't look lame as this doll is. Take it back! :lol
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I wonder if that ever happens.
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Even if it does, who bothers to take back a toy that was only $7? :rolleyes: Besides, that was mainly sarcastic. I doubt any little kids think like that.
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They may not even notice the difference.
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I'm afraid the outpot of large piles of franchise doesn't necessarily mean a continuation of the land before time. It could just as well be the efford to milk every drop from the cow while people are still aware of it due to the TV series. I do hope that the land before time is continued, but I must admit that I don't care about the continuation of the series so much if that continuation is to be a continuation of the poor quality sequels of recent times. There is still a lot of potential left for sequels of a quality similar to that of the early LBT sequels by Roy Alan Smith (LBT 2 to 4), but what LBT needs is a director who really cares about LBT and wants to produce more than cheap entertainment for a very young audience only.
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It could just as well be the efford to milk every drop from the cow while people are still aware of it due to the TV series.
I do not believe that. I must say that there is much more than merchandise going around. There's more tv eps coming out CN for the next 3 weeks and they keep making new covers for the LBT movies (although they continue to make crap covers). Not only that, but they just came out with a new LBT tv series DVD. If this were a milking, it wouldn't be going on for months and months.
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Dear Universal Studios,
Please don't end a series on an odd number that isn't 3... and don't end it on freaking "yellow bellies" either.
Your's truly,
Maruyama and Kuma Kobe
PS: Really, wasn't the original movie good enough on its own? If you really wanted to continue The Land Before Time, make a television series... before you made 12 more movies complete with musical numbers and sharp-tooth chase scenes. But I regress; bring on numer 14, where robots from the future take over the Great Valley and every Land Before Time character in the whole series, plus Sean Connor, join together to fight off the robots.
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quality of the recent sequels? 12 was one of my favs! I won't bring up 10, because of who I'm talking to :p
9 was good, I really liked 8, 13 wasn't awful... in fact I enjoyed it a lot except certain parts... really only 11 was disappointing for me
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Come on ;)
I laid out why I dislike LBT 10 but did I ever bash anyone for liking it?
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LBT 10 is one of my favorite movies, even though it has all of the inconsistencies. I agree with tails on this one. 13 wasn't god awful. It was between bad and okay. The indicator needle is pointing mostly towards okay for me. LBT 11 sucked because nothing really happened. LBT 13 was bad because of the fake stupid creatures (yellow bellies). I really hated the voice of Loofa. It sorta made me wanna punch him in the face. :p
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Dear Universal Studios,
Please don't end a series on an odd number that isn't 3... and don't end it on freaking "yellow bellies" either.
Your's truly,
Maruyama and Kuma Kobe
PS: Really, wasn't the original movie good enough on its own? If you really wanted to continue The Land Before Time, make a television series... before you made 12 more movies complete with musical numbers and sharp-tooth chase scenes. But I regress; bring on numer 14, where robots from the future take over the Great Valley and every Land Before Time character in the whole series, plus Sean Connor, join together to fight off the robots.
If you didn't want the sequels join with the rest of those people that didn't want them, but they are great for me. There are a few LBT sequels i like even more than the original, considering the original didn't have any songs (I think) and the fact that the sequels are made clearly for showing their adventures was a great idea. I'd probably not even be here at the GOF with you all if it wasn't for the sequels, because pokeplayer's song vids from them were the way that showed me here. (as said in another topic.) But i'm not flaming you, everyone has their own opinion right? And as for those yellowbellies, how are they fake? I haven't seen the movie yet but i've seen the songs and one song has made my overall top favorite song in the entire sequel collection so far, it just beat always there in my list. (If anyone wants to know, that song is How Do You Know, i think Littlefoot's voice was awesome there, and the song made me think this movie had them thinking about serious issues and such, but i don't think i'll ever get to see it, as i can't find it anywhere in my town.)
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The various movies have different feels to them so it is unlikely that someone would like all the movies equally, also the quality is not the same some would say also across all the various movies.
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I didn't say you had to like all of them, i didn't you say you had to like anything for that matter :lol . I didn't like some of the sequels either, such as LBT 8 and 11, but everyone likes what they like i do agree with that.
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If you didn't want the sequels join with the rest of those people that didn't want them, but they are great for me.
It's not like that. Even though I'm a huge fan of the original, I don't hate the sequels at all. I just think many of the ideas used in the sequels could have been used in a television series if made earlier.
But in reality, I guess it's simply a matter of branding. If you think about it, each episode of a television series is basically a sequel to the pilot episode. Once you apply this logic to the Land Before Time series, it's not so bad.
Anyway, LBT 14...
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I really do hope that LBT 14 will be awesome (if there will be one, hopefully) and as good as the other ones. I also hope it has some great heart touching songs like always there or something. Universal should show commercials about it if it is close to release, so they could give some hints about what it'll be about.
Dynamite Maruyama, they would've been horrible as tv shows TO ME, because none of them were half an hour and they'd have to make 2 episodes just to complete one sequel, unless they were all to be continued or something.
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All the sequels are good, but LBT 11 & 13 I had to say "what" to many times before I got used to it.
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There are some of the sequels that I overall like just certain scenes. I guess some may be the same. Though there are some sequels I like more then others also.
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To start off, I believe all have the right to their own opinion. However, to only make a TV series instead of the sequels would have been worse. I love all the sequels, even LBT 13. I found the yellowbellies to be a hoot, but then again I am a quirky individual, so what would one expect :bang? What's funny is the word "yellowbelly" is in the Webster :wow. It refers to an erractic or eccentric individual, which in this case seems a rather fitting label for those two. On the note of the yellowbellies being "fake", they have a species name: Beipeosauruses.
My apologies if I have just offended any of y'all :slap.
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all have the right to their own opinion.
How many times have i heard that said to me over the internet. :rolleyes: . That's what i mean, but i am stating my opinion as well. :)
AS an add on, i am hoping that LBT 14 (If it comes out?) will have a big surprise or something, or be as great as the original film. But sadly, if it doesn't have any heart touching songs as i said in my previous post, i just won't like it that much unless some of the things that i wanted to happen in LBT from the sequels happens in LBT 14, then that would definitely change my mind. Although there would always be an empty space in it for me if it had no songs/songs that were not sad, but that's just how i am. :D
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It seems that from 6 on up, te quality has gone down. Seven was alright but the rest of the recent sequels were not as good. I found the "yellow bellies" quite annoying.
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Staying with the feel of the ealier sequels would have been nice, but having a more comedic feel, can be ok, to me at least since I say those are on another lbt earth. Though if they do another sequel I do hope the writing is tighter, and the animation also so you don't have any animation errors, like magic sweet bubbles, Cera's twin or those like that.
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I think if they had just done the original movie and then made a tv series, it would have been a total failure. LBT 2 sold out so freaking fast because LBT 1 was so good. People were very disappointed with LBT 2 since it was targeted to such younger audiences. I wouldn't imagine a tv series doing very well right after LBT 1. There's only so many ideas you can do. I would be surprised if they could come up with 50 tv episodes in 100 years, and most tv series have 150-250 episodes.
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Was LBT 2 for a younger audience only? It did appear more for kids than the original movie, but compared to other sequels I don't think LBT 2 was so much limited to a younger audience only. Of course the songs came across as childish. The problem of the friendship between a leafeater and a sharptooth (though not explored deeply) is more complex than themes from other for kids only movie. They definitely included one joke meant to be for an older target group (Littlefoot's grandparents reaction at him asking about babies). Of course LBT 2 is not a movie made for an older target audience (none of the sequels is) but it doesn't strike me as a particularly childish episode.
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Well, when there was only LBT 1 and 2 (wow, I was young then :p ), there was no other later sequels to compare it to. I'm sure it seemed much more childish than the first LBT movie. I've dug up some old online articles that people wrote complaining about the first LBT sequel (LBT 2). I had them in my favorites a long time ago. I wonder if I can restore them. Apparently, Universal mislead about the next LBT movie, claiming it to be just about a match for the first movie (which was of course not true). I understand that it created many angry people, and that's why LBT is so widely critisized to this day. I remember something like this was said in the article:
"not only did they lie to us and create a little kids film off of a classic, then they start spewing the sequels out their ass like candy"
I don't know if Universal intentionally mislead the public or not. I was still crapping in diapers when this was going on. :p That's just what the article said.
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Some jerk really wrote that in an article :o? For those who are easily entertained, like myself, the sequels are good. If any complaints, the only one I have is they try to raise the bar in terms of the content. The vocabulary should'nt be dumbed down so much. If anything, it will teach the kids a new word or two they could use in the long run. Let's just pray profanity is not included, though I would die of laughter if Ducky ever cussed :lol! To all ya haters out there, I hope Universal keeps spewing these sequels out of its a**. The stories (suspense, namely) and vocab need some tweaking, and then ya have a good LBT sequel :D.
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While I have to agree I don't mind the childish stand the sequels have taken, I also wouldn't mind a bit more of a darker mood. Not mass murder dark, but just something that at the end of the movie as you finish watching the credits, it makes you go 'Wow...that was a new twist!'
Or something to that effect....but still I do look forward to see what Universial comes up with next for this movie...
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Something with the feel of the earlier sequels or some elements of the first movie would be nice. But logically it would likely be more like the latter sequels, depending on the team perhaps who were working on it.
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I sure agree with you Guardian and Kor on what might be an improvement to an upcoming LBT sequels. There are good ways to include gloomy elements which make the story more exciting without frightening the younger members of the audience to much. There have been gloomy elements before and I don't think they were received as "too much to handle" even by the younger target group.
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A darker mood would be a nice change in the series. :^.^:
Thinking of the last sequel that was "funny" and then go to "dark". :lol
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I guess there is a logical explanation as to why the sequals took such a childish increase. I remember Malte said that there can be gloomy elements without completely affecting the younger audiance. While I do agree with you on this, I think the first movie might have went a little too far in certain areas, which is probably what caused certain scenes to be cut. Scenes like the sharptooth fight inthe beginning, Littlefoot's mother's death, and the sharptooth encounter at the end, were probably seen as "too much" for the younger audiances, and maybe people complained about it and that's why the sequals are nowhere near as dark as the first one. Then again, I think we can all agree that the first movie was successful because it emphasized the difficulites one may have to go through in order to find peace.
Having said that, I really enjoy the sequals. I think these actors are really talented and have a really nice career ahead of them.
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Well, I haven't seen LBT 12 and 13 and I have only seen (yes, I really do need to catch up :blink: ). I read around the Internet that there is going to be LBT 14 later this year.
Did Ali came back during an episode of the series? If not, then hopefully she'll make an appearance in LBT 14. I have to admit that I was disappointed when she didn't appear in LBT 10.
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Yes, Ali made a return in the episode "The Brave Longneck Scheme" (i think that's what it was called.)
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Heh, don't feel you need to "catch up" too badly. There are a few around here (myself included) who havn't seen 12 or 13 yet.
And yes, Ali does make an appearance in the TV series, although that left it open as to whether she had returned before that or not, so she could appear in 14, as the TV episodes are set after the movies.
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Where did you read that there would be a fourteenth movie? If it is wikipedia or a site that gets its information from wikipedia, it might be best not to trust it.
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I actually thought I found info on LBT 14 through this site:
http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:The%20Land%20B...yond:1809961130 (http://shopping.yahoo.com/p:The%20Land%20Before%20Time:%20Adventuring%20in%20the%20Mysterious%20Beyond:1809961130)
But I looked at it again and saw that it wasn't. Sorry, I was too excited. :bang
Ali made an appearance during the tv series?! For real?! I hope Cartoon Network will still air the episodes this summer. :D
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If you don't want to wait till then, take a look at the links in landbeforetimelover's signature. ;)
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Look for an episode called: The Brave Longneck scheme.
Also if you can rent dvd's or have access to them that episode is on the dvd called:
The Land Before Time: Good Friends & Good Times
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I have not even seen the sequels up to nr.6. (except for nr.11)
And I finally managed to see some series, thanks to LBTlover.
Thanks for sharing mate! :yes
And becasue I don't wish to spoil all sequels at once, I buy two DVD's/month.
Still, I hope that when I get DVD's nr 12-13, it will be a nr.14!
Or even 15! :P:
I say that if UNI puts LBT on their shelf, GoF should buy it, make it, and sell it!
:wow
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Cool, I'll be sure to check out the site when I have time. Thanks! :)
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Does anyone know if there will be a # 14?
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no,
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I'd say there's a good chance there'll be a 14th movie made. I mean, they didn't exactly have a hard time selling #13. It took me forever to find a store that still had it in stock after 2 full days of it being out. :blink:
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I did not have a hard time finding it, but then again I go get 'em on the day of release :p. I'm pretty certain there will be a fourteenth, and hoping so ;) :lol:.
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Why would they stop making the Sequels on a number such as 13? :p
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I have the title for the next movie...you ready for this?
The Land Before Time...The Pick of Destiny!
No? :( I think it sounds cool... :D
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Uh, guys...I may know what the title to LBT XIV is, if it's accurate :unsure:. It is titled LBT XIV: The Growing Sky Stone. I dunno, folks. I found this on Wikipedia :rolleyes:. If it has anything to do with an asteroid, I will be p**** :angry:! I hate it when haters put crap like this on such websites :bang :mad :slap :angry:! Unless this was just some jacka** that has nothing better to do than p*** off LBT fans, this title seriously had better not be what I think it's insinuating. Dang! I'm gonna have a stroke if they kill off our pals :angry: :bang!
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I'd bet my left hand (the hand I'm using for writing) that this is just a hoax. Some people love coming up with LBT titles which suggest everyone to be eradicated.
I would bet both of my hands plus feet (no, I'm not a masochist, but the risk is really = zero) that they won't kill any of the main-characters. They hardly get the characters into really dangerous situations anymore (coming up with stupid kinds of sharpteeth instead). If they dared killing the main-characters they would have a rioting mob of angry parents in their lobby, something they have feared ever since the original movie.
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That is likely a hoax. If they do a 14th movie it would likely be like the latter sequels, with sharpteeth that are not really a threat, some action scenes that may be resolved in a silly manner, some comedy and of course some songs that are sung.
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I really hope it's just a mean joke <_<. If it is true, I shall forever boycott Universal for sure :angry: :mad :yes!
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I doubt that Universal Studios would do something as terrible as that. It's most likely a joke. Anyone could add to any Wikipedia article.
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That's why I hate Wikipedia so much. -_- You can't really trust that site.
And the title is definitely a hoax. I wonder why they always do that. If they don't like it, they should leave it. -_-
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Personally I don't hate Wikipedia in general. There are many articles which do provide accurate information (though one should not rely on it in real discourse). LBT is definitely not a topic where one should trust Wikipedia).
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Almost certainly a hoax.
EDIT: No other site EXCEPT wikipedia mentions a land before time film of that name, so it is almost definitely false.
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Stupid Wikipedia, always trying to make up stupid lies!
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The vast majority of information on Wikipedia is quite accurate. Not all articles are of the same quality of course and I suppose that articles on land before time matters are bound to get less attention from the people who fix vandalism than articles on a more far spread interest (e.g. political matters, biographies etc.). In general I think Wikipedia is quite helpful to look some stuff up.
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...Yeah, I forgot about all that. I agree, Malte, I definitely agree... It just incenses me, is all...
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I wonder if there actually will be a LBT14. :unsure:
I don't think I heard about it at the time, but when and how exactly did the existence of LBT13 became official? (just the fact that it would actually would exist (not counting the title)) It might give us an idea on what we should hope to see if we hope for there to be a LBT14.
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Hey, hey , hey! Guess what? That ridiculous sub-title was removed from Wikipedia :p! Whoo! Somebody's been naughty! Bad doggie! Arf!
Sorry, just random humor :lol :lol :lol
Yeah, I even checked the official website for a title and did not see one :p. In your face, hater :nyah!
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Booyah! Good post, Cancerian Tiger! Man, I don't like people like that. It may be a big joke to them, but to us, The Land Before Time means so much more than that!
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The bad joke on wikipedia is back, and is supported by ZERO official information as of today... "The growing sky stone..." You'd think the trolls would be a bit more creative...
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They seem to enjoy doing that for some reason, I've never understood why.
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Well who knows? For all we know that could actually be the next LBT film. After there have been several accounts in which information posted on the LBT section of wikipedia turned out to be true.
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We'll have to wait and see. I'm a bit suspicious about new movie postings since anyone could make up what they want.
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"The Land Before Time XIV, The Growing Sky Stone".......sounds ridiculous to me. :p
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I"d guess it's not an actual title. Likely that same one that keeps being mentioned on some places about the next movie being when the meteor hits and everyone dies. I've seen that a few times.
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Agreed, Landbeforetimelover :yes. That would be such a ridiculous title. Anyone who remembers the last narration of the original would know our pals lived long before extinction :rolleyes:. Sometimes, though, I wonder if Universal would really contradict itself like that :huh:.
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I will be praying to God every night that that is not the real title. Oh man, I didn't really like the "mysterious falling rock from the sky might be magical" plot the first time.
All I have to say is if the Rainbow Faces return, I'm done forking over chase to this series.
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I was wondering about that title when I went to Wikipedia just now to look up some LBT information. It sounded ridiculous and to me it sounds like some LBT hater's wishful thinking for the next LBT movie that he edited that himself to mess with LBT fans.
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Well the title does sound wierd, but really in all honisty I really don't care who or what's going to be in the 14th movie as long as it's appealing to my opinion. You see when it comes to movies I don't listen to others opinions wether it's good or bad. That everyone is how I work.
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The title is SO fake.
Can't those haters just stop. This does NOT make you look cool you know. :)
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It is a very fake title. There has been some fake things of this type before. I guess folks will never stop doing this since it seems some have fun doing this for some reason.
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as fake as possible!
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as fake as possible!
I don't know maybe its not the title to worry about, it may be the movie you should worry about. whether or not it is fake or not!!! :DD
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I can tell you this much, I heard nothing from Aria about LBT 14 and her mum and they usually let me know of a tiny minor news on it to me no title just saying they going to be some voicing and working progress of it, I heard nothing of the such so that title totally fake.
There is a very very slim chance that if the next movie comes out might have something to do with the story that I can't really share with you guys with request of Aria and her mum.
But there is a Rumor that number 14 is explaining how Ruby and Chomper came to the Great Valley so there two possible paths
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But there is a Rumor that number 14 is explaining how Ruby and Chomper came to the Great Valley so there two possible paths
Now that's interessting, though still a rumor.
I belive everyone here's curious about that matter. :)
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i'm not!
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It was just a statement, doesn't have to be precisely correct.
But sure. :^.^:
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Aren't Ruby and Chomper only in the TV series? Or was the series based before the sequels? I'm confused. If they made a sequel explaining something about the TV series instead of having it's own originality, i'd be disappointed.
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I thought that was already explained?
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Ruby is in the tv series only, Chomper was in the 2nd and 5th movies. As for how they got the the Great Valley there have been some flashbacks, but none saying how Chomper got off the island, how Ruby came to be looking after him. All that is said is that she promised Chomper's parents to look after him. Also from what is said it seems that they are on a mission.
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Yea. What Kor sais. I know nothing about Ruby... :unsure: *blames dutch television*
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Agree to that.
I'd sure like to know the story about these two, but I'd NOT like that to be part of a sequel! Make that another series episode if so.
I long for a brand new sequel! :P:
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They could do it as a flashback, with the flashback being the whole episode. They could do it as perhaps 2 episodes, with Chomper's story of how he got off the island, met Ruby's family, how Ruby came to promise his parents to look after him and how they got the great valley grown ups to not mind Chomper being there, in one and more of Chomper with Ruby & Ruby's story in another. Though they may decide to keep Ruby with Chomper living in the Great Valley as a tv series only thing and keep the movies as happening before the tv series.
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I notice that many websites and branding Land Before Time as something that must end and trying to bring out stupid titles for LBT 14. All those sorces and false and I will stick with that when I see people putting up titles like Growing Sky stone... god I know some people hate LBT but why go that far to annoy those that love watching them and enjoy it no matter what...
Sometimes I think some of those idiots can't see beyond their prides...
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there are also some big end of LBT videos on youtube,
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We need to face it dudes, the franchise has spread out for as long as it could... There are many stories yet to be told, however I don't see the producers taking that path, LBT needs to be restructured like, for example, finding a main story line and use it in the movies or just stick to the TV series, I don't believe both of them can survive.
People need to identify themselves with the characters and not just see new characters being put into the mix every new movie, forgetting about the old ones as if they were never there.
I don't want it to end, but sincerely at this point I wouldn't see it as a bad thing.
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I was hoping for another baby sharptooth like chomper.Maybe we can actually see chomper trying to act like real sharptooth by stalking his prey and having aggresive behavior like having a food fight. It would be interesing if he learn to fish and catches his first prey. :D MAybe he will start showing off for the another sharpttooth. Maybe he can actually be bad in the series and make mistakes. :nyah
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Not very likely seeing as the LBT series is made to teach children lessons and it's pretty much a "utopia" style existence except when the sharpteeth are around or when something else bad happens.
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The only food we've seen Chomper eat was a snapping shell, which we saw Ruby eat once also, some bees, and crawlers, as far as I can recall. & his trying to eat some green food and not liking it. Though I see no reason why he can't eat a fish, some humans eat fish so it would not be nasty.
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Well,I hope there¥s a 14movie,if there was a 13, why not a 14?
I think that when the last LBT movie is made, it will end showing the GOF and the other caracthers all growed up with famlily,kids, that kind of stuff,and for the aduls, well, older...
Just my theory though...
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We need to face it dudes, the franchise has spread out for as long as it could... There are many stories yet to be told, however I don't see the producers taking that path, LBT needs to be restructured like, for example, finding a main story line and use it in the movies or just stick to the TV series, I don't believe both of them can survive.
People need to identify themselves with the characters and not just see new characters being put into the mix every new movie, forgetting about the old ones as if they were never there.
I don't want it to end, but sincerely at this point I wouldn't see it as a bad thing.
I believe you mean dudes and dudettes. There are girls on this site, too. :lol
I have to agree with NewOrder. The movies aren't really linked to each other. There is no coherent plot from movie to movie. In fact, the first movie is referenced only twice in my knowledge: in the 9th and 10th movies.
I wonder how the franchise if both the movies and the television series would have done if they had kept a coherent plot between movies/episodes. I have to say, the only characters that should have been used in the movies were the original characters, Chomper, Hyp, Nod, Mutt, and Ali. The original characters from the first four movies would have been better as recurring characters instead of one-hit wonders. Except for Chomper, who did appear in more than one movie.
As for the stories yet to be told, I believe now it is up to the fans to think of these lost plots and make them into fan-based media. I wonder how a fan-movie would work. Maybe I'll suggest that in the LBT Projects section.
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I wished they would make another episode. I always wanted to know how did Chomper know where to go to get to the great valley. Maybe see more sharpteeth and different kinds of them. They aren't every many baby or young little ones. Why doesn't Redclaw attack those flatbellies and other sharpteeth around the great valley? There should be more varieties of all sort of dinos?
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There are many unanswered questions.
And about Chomper, if he remembered being a hatchling his memory should have led him to the great wall, not to another way into the Great Valley, unless one wishes to say he has been to the Great Valley somewhere between the 5th movie and the start of the tv series, in an unseen adventure. Though obviously if he had one he had to leave the Great Valley.
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There are girls on this site, too. :lol
Honestly? Didn't know that :o :lol: ... :p
We can only hope, or maybe not, maybe it's better they end now and come back later.. Seriously, it's gone too fast to something that doesn't teach about morals so much anymore.
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I think that when the last LBT movie is made, it will end showing the GOF and the other caracthers all growed up with famlily,kids, that kind of stuff,and for the aduls, well, older...
I suppose that (in case we haven't seen the last of LBT) they are more likely to leave an end as open as every single one we have had so far to keep the option of producing more movies until it is no longer economical for them. Once this is the case they would probably just not produce another anymore, so they wouldn't actually "plan" an episode to be the last and final one.
As for the stories yet to be told, I believe now it is up to the fans to think of these lost plots and make them into fan-based media. I wonder how a fan-movie would work. Maybe I'll suggest that in the LBT Projects section.
I like the idea, but almost every fanfiction out there is a crossing over of sorts which, released as a movie, would really shredder the LBT world
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Well I guess you¥re right Malte
Mumbling Posted on Sep 9 2008, 12:39 AM
We can only hope, or maybe not, maybe it's better they end now and come back later.. Seriously, it's gone too fast to something that doesn't teach about morals so much anymore.
I agree,in a part it would be better.
I like lbt, it would be a shame if they stop now, but if it means that will be back in with better films and a new better season I would¥t mind waiting.
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I'll be the first to admit this idea has appeal. But on the contrary Malte, not every fanfic is a crossover. Take for example DarkHouounmons fanfic...that to me is completely plausible idea for a movie.
We know for a fact that we've seen Littlefoot speaking to the spirit of his dead mother three times during the first movie, so the idea behind DH's story would be at least be worth trying.
While my story doesn't center on the Gang of Five as the other movies have, it too would be a ideal concept as it's a 'pure' LBT fanfic. This is however just my opinion.
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That seems to be the only supernatural element in lbt is the fact that someone recently dead can talk to at least 1 of the living. Otherwise no magic or anything and the dead talking to the living can be taken as a very rare thing since it's not done in any of the sequels or tv episodes after that.
As for no 14th movie, they did what an entire season and 2 movies in a year or 2. They may have decided to wait a year or 2 to do another movie, they've had 1 or more year between movies before so why not now and in the future.
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Kor Posted on Sep 9 2008, 03:21 PM
As for no 14th movie, they did what an entire season and 2 movies in a year or 2. They may have decided to wait a year or 2 to do another movie, they've had 1 or more year between movies before so why not now and in the future.
Indeed its true, they they did a movie and a season in a a little more than a year.
Pearhps in January or february of next year the 14 movie will be here.
It¥s just a guess, I compared some dates, and well, that was my conclusion, but I think its wrong -_-
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It¥s just a guess, I compared some dates, and well, that was my conclusion, but I think its wrong -_- [/color][/b]
Don't let your hopes down yet ;). There was a two year period between LBT VI and LBT VII, and I thought it was the end and about went nuts. Hey, I lived in the sticks when I started even learning how to use a computer. The only thing I knew how to use is Word B). I'll admit I was about fourteen years of age :p, but I've always been an outdoors girl and never focused too much on technology(I'm trying to catch up now :lol),. So...I never knew one could find out online when a film was to come out. In any case, this was not the last time this trend happened. There was a two-year period between LBT XI and LBT XII. Again, I thought it was done for but kept praying. Perhaps Universal is trying to not burn out fans by not popping out a sequel(or in some cases, two) a year. And I will once again agree LBT is NOT dead. If Universal really attempted to push LBT fans away, they have failed miserably thus far :p. But, let's not get our spirits down. I'm sure this is just another hiatus that will end soon :yes.
LONG LIVE LBT :^.^:!
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Indeed.
They may be doing it like you mentioned so the fans are not burned out with to many movie sequels. Better to give the fans a bit less then they'd like with a rest period to giving them to many. Also it gives you an chance to see if the fanbase is still there from the letters, email, maybe phone calls, how much lbt stuff sells, ect.
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I'm with NewOrder as well. Its time for either the series to get a complete makeover or for it to end.
I don't want it to end, so the complete makeover gets my vote. I like the idea of a continual plot. Each movie can be like an hour and something long episode/chapter of the plot. I think that could work. Then make the fell a little more like the original movie, and we have a perfect gig here.
Alright, if we're going to make a fanmade movie or something, the first step is a concept. On the fan works boards I say we make a post for those of us with writing ability to toss ideas back and forth and come up with an agreeable concept, create an outline, and work on a first draft script from there.
How we'll possibly actually make this come to life is another matter for a later time, as that can only happen AFTER we have something to make it off of.
I'll make the post of mine own right this instant if I don't see some action about this on the fan projects already. Anyone's who's honestly interested can come on down. This is never gonig to get made if we just speculate about doing it and never doing anything about it, ourselves. It has to start with us, LBT fans!
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Is there any substantial news about the 14th movie? Any word at all?
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<_< nope, not yet
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I agree with Kor. I think Universal took too much of an advantage over the success of the first movie that they started dishing out sequel after sequel without giving much thought to the plot ideas, so I guess this is a relief to those who have been a fan of the series for the longest time.
In my opinion, some of the movies could have been made episodes for the tv series. For example, LBT VI, XI, XII, and XIII seemed like movies where the plot was more suited for the TV series instead of full scale movies. LBT VIII and X were in my opinion the only two movies after LBT V that had really strong plot ideas, and they could have been expressed much better if they were made much earlier. Again, this is my opinion, but I think the movies should have been organized like this:
LBT 1
LBT 2
LBT 3
LBT 4
LBT 10
LBT 8
LBT 5
LBT 7
And then the other movies could have been tied into TV episodes.
As for the next movie, Universal should definitely take some time to come up with a really strong plot, but not too long so that all the fans start crying thinking LBT is dead.
:cry :cry :cry
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Maybe they are doing just that. Hopefully they will have a skilled and experienced scriptwriter work on the script of the next movie and preferably someone who is experienced in the genre.
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I do hope they are just cleaning house and getting qualified folks in there to help rev up the series again :yes.
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yeah! like us!
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The time of it might also depend on the storyboard, animations, musics etc, that they are doing to LBT 14, they may have new ideas they will try to add.
(probably) They will finish it next year.
...Or maibe they will "gift" us with a movie and a new brand season...in a millions years :lol , but there are always chances of that happening.
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It takes longer to make an animated, or live action, movie then most would likely think it does. They likely won't announce it till it's finished, I would guess.
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Take for example DarkHouounmons fanfic...that to me is completely plausible idea for a movie.
As much as I would love to see Out of the Shadows as a movie, it's not happening. Yes, that fan fiction is VERY well written, but the movie that would be based on it would carry a PG-13 rating at least, possibly even an R.
My ultimate wish would be movie versions of these Land Before Time fan fics: Out of the Shadows (Rated R) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2550278/1/Out_of_the_Shadows), Land Before Time: Twilight Valley (Rated PG-13) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4044080/1/Land_Before_Time_Twilight_Valley), Star Wars: The Land Before Time: A Jedi's Destiny (rated PG-13) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3007925/1/Star_Wars_The_Land_Before_Time_A_Jedis_Destiny), Land Before Time: War of the Worlds(Rated PG-13) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2151472/1/Land_Before_Time_War_of_the_Worlds), Time Gate X(Rated R) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2663682/1/Time_Gate_X), Land Before Time: The Mysterious World(Rated PG) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2360239/1/Land_Before_Time_The_Mysterious_World)
Even though 3 of the listed stories are pure (no humans), I'm not sure I'll ever see a movie version. And 2 that are not quite pure LBT(have humans) and 1 crossover.
The crossover ain't happening as a movie. However, Time Gate X and The Mysterious World do have a chance to become movies but the chance is EXTREMELY low.
Yeah, I know the chance of a dark, gritty, violent, SF influenced and/or post-apocalyptic Land Before Time movie coming out is almost nonexistant.
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As much as I would love to see Out of the Shadows as a movie, it's not happening. Yes, that fan fiction is VERY well written, but the movie that would be based on it would carry a PG-13 rating at least, possibly even an R.
Yeah my next two fanfic's if they were made into movies they would most likely have those ratings. My current one if made into a movie would have at most a PG rating.
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That seems to be the only supernatural element in lbt is the fact that someone recently dead can talk to at least 1 of the living. Otherwise no magic or anything and the dead talking to the living can be taken as a very rare thing since it's not done in any of the sequels or tv episodes after that.
Rainbowfaces come to mind... actually
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I took them to be either et's adopting a form of a local species to observe the locals by traveling around as one of them for a while, or some actual dinos from some advanced civilization come to observe some more primitive locals, either from the same world or another one. So nothing supernatural on their part.
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Take for example DarkHouounmons fanfic...that to me is completely plausible idea for a movie.
As much as I would love to see Out of the Shadows as a movie, it's not happening. Yes, that fan fiction is VERY well written, but the movie that would be based on it would carry a PG-13 rating at least, possibly even an R.
My ultimate wish would be movie versions of these Land Before Time fan fics: Out of the Shadows (Rated R) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2550278/1/Out_of_the_Shadows), Land Before Time: Twilight Valley (Rated PG-13) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4044080/1/Land_Before_Time_Twilight_Valley), Star Wars: The Land Before Time: A Jedi's Destiny (rated PG-13) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3007925/1/Star_Wars_The_Land_Before_Time_A_Jedis_Destiny), Land Before Time: War of the Worlds(Rated PG-13) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2151472/1/Land_Before_Time_War_of_the_Worlds), Time Gate X(Rated R) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2663682/1/Time_Gate_X), Land Before Time: The Mysterious World(Rated PG) (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/2360239/1/Land_Before_Time_The_Mysterious_World)
Even though 3 of the listed stories are pure (no humans), I'm not sure I'll ever see a movie version. And 2 that are not quite pure LBT(have humans) and 1 crossover.
The crossover ain't happening as a movie. However, Time Gate X and The Mysterious World do have a chance to become movies but the chance is EXTREMELY low.
Yeah, I know the chance of a dark, gritty, violent, SF influenced and/or post-apocalyptic Land Before Time movie coming out is almost nonexistant.
Hey, George Lucas produced the original Lad Before Time, and he owns Star Wars. Maybe if I could get him to pull some strings...
I agree with you, though. All of those fics would be awesome movies.
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Imagine if 1 or both producers were involved in another LBT movie.
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How would you do that jedi?
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Sorry, but I can't stomach an LBT sequel having a rating beyond PG. Talk about deviating from the outline of the series. Sure, more suspense is needed but no killing off of any of the original LBT cast, even if they were to come back to life.
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If I had to choose between no further episodes and LBT episodes of the crossing over genre including such non-LBT-elements as can be found in the majority of fanfictions I suppose I would rather have non; though I admit it would be a difficult judgment to deliver :unsure:
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There hasn't been any word of LBT 14 yet. Well I'll say one thing though, Our Little Friend wikipedia.org has LBT 14 back up again and it's has 2009 being the release date. First off I don't know who put that there and I haven't been on the LBT article for a while so no one may never know how long it's been there. Another thing is hope that the info there is true. Until then I'll be watching and waiting to see what happens.
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There hasn't been any word of LBT 14 yet. Well I'll say one thing though, Our Little Friend wikipedia.org has LBT 14 back up again and it's has 2009 being the release date. First off I don't know who put that there and I haven't been on the LBT article for a while so no one may never know how long it's been there. Another thing is hope that the info there is true. Until then I'll be watching and waiting to see what happens.
It's not there anymore.
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Imagine if 1 or both producers were involved in another LBT movie.
Now that I would pay to see. Both original creators working on the story again, it almost sounds like bliss.
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There hasn't been any word of LBT 14 yet. Well I'll say one thing though, Our Little Friend wikipedia.org has LBT 14 back up again and it's has 2009 being the release date. First off I don't know who put that there and I haven't been on the LBT article for a while so no one may never know how long it's been there. Another thing is hope that the info there is true. Until then I'll be watching and waiting to see what happens.
It's not there anymore.
Did you look in the article called TLBT(series)? Cause I can see it perfectly.
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I can't find it either.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Before_Time_(series) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Before_Time_(series))
P.s. It's in red.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Before_Time_(series) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Land_Before_Time_(series))
P.s. It's in red.
it is therefore if correct the film 2009 comes out I would be pleased the film in German comes out this whom. :lol: :yes :blink:
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I hope it's right. There was, however, something like that posted in red before that got removed, so we'll just have to wait and hear from a reliable source <_<. If ya click on the red print, you'll find that the page has been deleted, as well as the numerous dates previous versions of it have been deleted. But, it's still a possibility :yes. We'll see what happpens.
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it turned red again!
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Likely taken down since there is no official sources of information, I would guess.
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Um guys, what have we said about Wikipedia? Just telling you guys, don't trust it.
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it is all a big keg of salt, that is what manny cav once said,
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Best to not believe it till some official type from Universal announces it, which unlike video games, they may be unlikely to announce they'll be coming out with a movie a year or a few before they do. With some exceptions, since there seem to always be exceptions.
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God, I freakin' hope they comes out with another one. It's been at least 2 years, and they shoud've had more than enough time to make a good story. Here's hoping!
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didn't they close the LBT Office due to budget cuts?
or did they reopen them?
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They could be waiting to announce LBT 14 til after the final TV DVD is released.
it comes out at the end of the month i think. would make sense too, as to create more interest in the movie.
thats just wishful thinking, though :D
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Is there any update on this situation? Is the office really closed? Is there going to be a LBT 14?
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I dunno, but if Threehorn comes across your question, I'm sure he can answer it or at east try to :unsure:.
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They may be going to wait a few years between movies. You can also pm Threehorn and ask him directly.
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For all I'm aware of there is no real update. The office has indeed been closed and as of now there regrettably not the slightest shred of a sign that there will be a 14th movie.
Neither has there been (nor do I believe that in any case there would be) an official statement that it won't ever be picked up again.
There have been earlier cases in which there had been a break in the production of LBT movies, but I do not know if those breaks involved the closing of the offices.
I do not know about the economic success of the TV series which might be crucial when it comes to a possible continuation of the franchise in any form whatsoever.
Summing up all the information a continuation in the near future doesn't seems close to impossible. A continuation in general (giving it some time) is possible but may not be likely.
Hope dies last.
My greatest hope (which is based on plenty good facts :)) is that for many of us the discontinuation of the official releases would be regrettable, but no "death blow" to their enthusiasm for LBT and their activity in the GOF.
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I completely agree with you Malte. At least for me, even if it had only been the original LBT, no sequel or no tv series, I'd still be an lbt enthusiast as I am now, I guess the only thing that would change, would be this board, and meeting all of you guys.
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I confess, that if there had been "only" the original movie without any sequel I doubt my enthusiasm could have developed as much as it did.
There is sometimes a kind of depreciation of the sequels which is worse than some of the sequels (which changed but also enriched the world of LBT) deserve. In spite of what is sometimes being said, I do not believe that the GOF would exist (it definitely would not in its current degree) if it wasn't for the existence of the sequels.
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Very likely true, if not for the sequels some folks's enthusiasm and liking for the franchise may be less or different then what it is now.
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I hope Movie 14 is a gap between Movie 13 and the TV series.
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:bang They are really taking long to announce it.
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Ya they r, i hope it happens, and please don't let it be a repeat of 13
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Hi I'm a new member here :DD
I hope land before time 14 has Bron or Ali in it
I was also thinking what if Bron met a longneck that save littlefoot life and they fall in love and Littlefoot gets mad at Bron and runs away because he's replacing his mother.
or
a movie where Ali and Littlefoot fall in love
PLEASE don't let it be like the 13th one :x
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It does seem unlikely but having Ali or any char from a previous movie in it would be good indeed. :yes
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It seems that virtually everyone here agrees that if there was a LBT 14, they would not want it to be like LBT 13 (I can't say why because I haven't seen it yet). I wonder if it has to do with the fact that 13 is considered an unlucky number. :unsure:
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I dont think it does. I dont personally dislike sequel 13, but it had some childish aspects in it which were worse than in previous sequels..
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I dont think it does. I dont personally dislike sequel 13, but it had some childish aspects in it which were worse than in previous sequels..
Well, we can't blame them. It's a kid's show afterall. :)
In any case...
"The one who waits for something good.... never waits to long" ;)
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I dont think it does. I dont personally dislike sequel 13, but it had some childish aspects in it which were worse than in previous sequels..
Well, we can't blame them. It's a kid's show afterall. :)
In any case...
"The one who waits for something good.... never waits to long" ;)
I agree with Gustav. 13 did have childish aspects in it, but that's probably because the release of the movie was around if not close to the same time the TV series was released. Call it coincidence, or call it further promotion for the series, but that's my opinion.
Considering that past characters are reappearing in the TV series, it is unlikely that they will show up in the movies. Of course, it's always nice to hope :lol:
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I think Guido will now be a permanent herd member.
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Seeing that LBT 14 has not been confirmed or denied in almost two years, I'm going to remove this as a sticky topic.
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Seeing that LBT 14 has not been confirmed or denied in almost two years, I'm going to remove this as a sticky topic.
That's going to be a big disappointment if they don't come up with the 14th Movie.
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I hope they will come out with 14 :(
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Yeeeah, me too :(
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If they don't come up with a movie, we still have that audio play thing going on. Besides, you could always make a fanfic.
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I wanna see LBT 14 come out too. Just like...uhh...everyone else in the GoF
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One Of The Users Told Me That There's Not Gonna Be A Land Before Time 14. Because It Doesn't Exist And I'm A Little Bit Sure About That. Dang! I Thought I Waited For A New Movie To Come, But No.
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Considering that it's not even the middle of the year yet, I think there's still hope for an LBT 14. I mean it took the last sequel until the near end of November to come out if I remember correctly. Maybe the same is going to be true for the next sequel.
If they do do Land Before Time 14, I hope it'll explain just who Ruby and Red Claw are, how Ruby knows Chomper and his parents and why Chomper's parents entrusted their son to her despite that Chomper's most likely stronger than she is. Oh and of course, how Chomper and his parents got off the island.
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Waiting can be a Pain.
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Waiting can be a pain
So can be waiting in vain
Unless we may find
That perhaps we are blind
And fail to see
That what we want
Is already at hand
Without waiting or fee
The moment we learn
Not only to yearn
For what we can't control
And what would take us a toll
But instead realize
The treasure inside
The stories untold
Which we have in mind
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Waiting can be a pain
So can be waiting in vain
Unless we may find
That perhaps we are blind
And fail to see
That what we want
Is already at hand
Without waiting or fee
The moment we learn
Not only to yearn
For what we can't control
And what would take us a toll
But instead realize
The treasure inside
The stories untold
Which we have in mind
Nice usage of word dude. I'll keep it mind
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EDIT: Sorry this was from a much earlier post.
Aww don't pick on Guido! I used to not like him either until i saw how well he constrasted Petrie's character in Hermit of Black Rock. Petrie was forced to think for himself that scary situations since Littlefoot wasn't around to lead, and since Guido was even more scared then he was it was a good test of character as well.
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Guys I just had a wierd feeling. I have feeling that if their is a 14th movie it may be a remake to the orginal. Why I think this is because other movies that have excessive sequels that were either not sucessful or were sucessful are eventually remade.
So I think that they might try to reboot the series.
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I would welcome and definitely buy a remake of the original. I'd love to see the original in some modern animation. The older style animation bothers me.
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If they do a remake then it should be very intresting. But even though what i said before was a hunch that it might happen. Using the movie Friday The 13th as an example they made ten sequels and for six years after the eleventh movie they made a remake and also announced they were rebooting the series. Now coming back on topic, that example I explanned may happen with the LBT series.
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Don't fix what ain't broken. ;)
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I would not mind a reboot of the series. I wonder if they'd go full 3d or partial and what the remaking of the original would be like if they did that.
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Don't fix what ain't broken. wink.gif
Normally I would agree with that, but no matter they do...even if the mutilate the crap out of the remake - they can never take the original movie away from us. Because of this, I don't see any reason why they shouldn't try.
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You know if we have the voice(singing and voicing characters),the computer talent(working with computers) and writing talent we can make our own version.We have some writing talents like Breakclub some people good in Computers like Landbeforetimelover I think and maybe mumbling.Voice is somthing we are missing.
I remembered a series of people made a remake of a discontinued game resulting to it rising in popularity and a company even remaking the game.
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If LBT was like Inuyasha and had 167 episodes we could....but as it is now there's not enough material to do that. Even comics would be very difficult (I tried it myself once but had to quit due to my limited experience at the time). I would easily be able to make comics now that my Photoshopping skills have increased so much....but still that's only a comic. Besides....I'm not too good with the story side of it.
If someone could write a very good STRICT LBT story and FINISH it, I would be willing to make a comic out of it now that I'm not wasting all of my time at school. But it would have to be a story that a lot of people like otherwise I don't really see a point to it. Don't get me wrong. Making a comic of LBT would be pretty difficult to do so I wouldn't want to do it to anything but a good story. But I'm willing to and I have the skills now, whereas back then my skills were "okay" at best. :p Oh, and having Photoshop CS4 at my fingertips helps too. Doing it in CS2 was murder.
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can you draw fan art?
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Hehe, those folks who have nothin' better to do than tinker around with Wikipedia's content seem to be running out of realistic names. Check this new one out:
LBT VX: Quest of the Longneck Princess
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My word, the things some folks come up with :slap :lol!
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Already took care of most of it. The rest is still there. Seriously LBT VX: Quest of the Longneck Princess? That's the second worst thing I've seen or heard. The name alone Quest of the Longneck Princess poeple would already not buy the idea. <_<
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Plus there was only a couple of times where wikipedia was right about something.
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When I saw that title I laughed my head off.
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my friends uncle works at Universal Studios and he told my friend that LBT was on break at the moment and that they are going to start a season 2 on the LBT show probably later this year or 2010 and after they might do LBT 14.
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To add another thing I have a feeling it's probably the same person that porbably wrote that other title to the 14th movie.
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my friends uncle works at Universal Studios and he told my friend that LBT was on break at the moment and that they are going to start a season 2 on the LBT show probably later this year or 2010 and after they might do LBT 14.
Well that's good to know. :) Thanks for the info Littlefoot3897. :yes I think they do deserve a break wouldn't you agree?
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That load of BS seems to have been removed now.
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my friends uncle works at Universal Studios and he told my friend that LBT was on break at the moment and that they are going to start a season 2 on the LBT show probably later this year or 2010 and after they might do LBT 14.
This is interesting. But what job does your friend's uncle hold at Universals? From what we know the LBT voice actors (Aria to be more specific) are unaware of any future plans for the land before time. How involved is your friends uncle in the works to be let in on that information?
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When is the trailer out?
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That's great news! Let's hope they're true
Btw, in roman numerals 14 is XIV and not VX like some people have posted here, if it's so on wikipedia then someone should fix it.
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I hate to be the killjoy, but what exactly is the job your friends uncle holds at universal studies? I'm still skeptic of him knowing this for certain when apparently the voice actors of LBT do not.
I don't want to spoil anyone's hopes, but I do not want disappointment to be even larger if this, same as so many things before, turns out to be a rumor.
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"Longneck Princess"?! I bet, this title was added to Wikipedia by one of Ali's fans. :)
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I'm like fixing 10 to 15 articles a day when I'm not on vacation. Someone on another forum I was on is about to completely rewrite an entire page about a subway car type.
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Malte can someone like a voice actor/actress even tell us about another movie ahead of time? It would make sense to me that their contract would forbid them from mentioning it before any official announcement. Then again I'm probably completely wrong.
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I was thinkin' the same thing. They're probably sworn to secrecy or somethin' like that :unsure:.
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I was thinkin' the same thing. They're probably sworn to secrecy or somethin' like that unsure.gif.
Well I'm sure that's true with "normal" movies, but LBT has such a small adult fanbase that I'm sure they don't need to swear them to secrecy about it. :p
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There has been a case where some word slipped before the official announcement, but you are probably right with regard to the contract which is why not too much of a fuss was made in those earlier cases until the official word came.
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Any other weird stuff on lbt
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I've got an idea (hope you're listening Speilberg) as good as the sequels are they should have LBT14 in the style of the original in terms of art syle, emotion, score, and please no singing(even though it isn't that bad :idea
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Wow, how original..! :D
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I'm thinking of working in the Universal animation studios when I'm older. I wonder if I can help with making LBT movies. It would also be cool if I can find the deleted earthquake scenes explain it to you guys.
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from what I heard those scenes are lost forever but if you do manage to find them then it would be great finally see them in the next 10 or 15 years but it depends if LBT will still be around by that time.
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from what I heard those scenes are lost forever but if you do manage to find them then it would be great finally see them in the next 10 or 15 years but it depends if LBT will still be around by that time.
I dont think they are lost
for example
I was a Bambi fan a couple of years ago. the movie was made in the 1940's
and in 2005 when it was release in DVD they showed some deleted scene that they kept in storage.
So I believe they are some where in Universal Studios in a movie vault.
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that's exactly what I thought before I heard that someone asked Bluth about the scenes and he said they didn't save them so they are lost :cry
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It does suck that the deleted scenes are lost, but I doubt they really would've changed our perception of the story. After all, DVDs that have deleted scenes, like the Star Wars and Star Trek series, tend to have clips that don't add much in terms of action or story, so you understand why they were left out.
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yeah but it would've helped.
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from what I heard those scenes are lost forever but if you do manage to find them then it would be great finally see them in the next 10 or 15 years but it depends if LBT will still be around by that time.
I dont think they are lost
for example
I was a Bambi fan a couple of years ago. the movie was made in the 1940's
and in 2005 when it was release in DVD they showed some deleted scene that they kept in storage.
So I believe they are some where in Universal Studios in a movie vault.
Universal (especially the cartoon "arm" of the company) has nowhere near the resources of Disney. Plus at the time of LBT (the original), Don Bluth was on a limited budget so the chances of any of this stuff reaching an archive for any extended period is very unlikely. If Bluth says they're gone, then that tells me he's tried to look for them and had no success. Bluth liked those darker scenes, so if anyone wanted them, it would be him.
As for Bambi, it was one of Disney's favorite films, and this was in the early days of the studio when he oversaw every aspect of the filmmaking. I'm not surprised there is archived stuff. Why would Walt want to destroy his treasure? I suspect you'd see less of this stuff in the years following Disney's death (1970s films and up to Black Cauldron in 1985) because the studio was on hard times and excess makes waste.