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RainbowFaceProtege:
--- Quote ---And this isn't calling you out Mu-u-ud Brother, but Mo-o-o will say that those that think that there is no such thing as aliens or other intelligent life out there is quite naive.
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Oh, I didn’t mean to imply that I don’t believe alien life exists—I just don’t think it’s visiting Earth. I do believe there are people out there who really have seen strange things, but saying alien visitors and their spaceships are the reason for such phenomena seems like a stretch. That explanation falls more into the category of mythology/folklore than logic/facts, though I do think it’s a lot of fun to imagine (you know me)…
:rainbowwave
As for the scientific effort to detect alien life—well, that’s a whole other category. To me, the scientific Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) is not only worthwhile but necessary to our understanding of science as a whole. I mean, I couldn’t agree with your thoughts more. The way I’ve always seen it, there isn’t even a question of whether life on other planets exists. The more we explore space, the more we find that the circumstances which led to life evolving on Earth aren’t particularly rare elsewhere, as shown by the examples you mentioned. Going further, I don’t find it hard to believe that life with a level of intelligence similar to ours could exist out there. In fact, it seems quite egotistical to me how some people think humans are the only intelligent forms of life in existence. We live in a universe that’s incomprehensibly vast and filled with far more unknowns than knowns—what makes us so sure we’re alone? “What limited thinking,” indeed!
--- Quote ---I'm curious why nobody mentions trying to find life in general...doesn't have to be "big brain" like the humans that we are right now that have evolved from monkeys.
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On the topic of less advanced extraterrestrial life, I will say that there was quite a stir in the 90s over a meteorite from Mars, ALH 84001, that supposedly showed fossil evidence of microscopic life. This was later concluded to be inaccurate, but the claim caused a lot of excitement in the scientific community at the time.
All this being said, the question is when and where will we confirm the existence of alien life, and will our own species even survive long enough to do so? I suppose, as Neil deGrasse Tyson put it, “There are times, at least for now, when we must be content to love the questions themselves.”
:rainbowThinking
ImpracticalDino:
--- Quote from: RainbowFaceProtege on May 02, 2024, 03:07:02 PM ---
--- Quote ---And this isn't calling you out Mu-u-ud Brother, but Mo-o-o will say that those that think that there is no such thing as aliens or other intelligent life out there is quite naive.
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Oh, I didn’t mean to imply that I don’t believe alien life exists—I just don’t think it’s visiting Earth. I do believe there are people out there who really have seen strange things, but saying alien visitors and their spaceships are the reason for such phenomena seems like a stretch. That explanation falls more into the category of mythology/folklore than logic/facts, though I do think it’s a lot of fun to imagine (you know me)…
:rainbowwave
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All go-o-od, Mu-u-ud Brother! Mo-o-o would've mentioned that regardless of what Mo-o-o thought you were implying, but thanks for clarifying though. :)
And yeah, Mo-o-o agree with yo-o-ou on that fully. And like I said, they should have more efficient means of travel than a flying saucer disk if aliens did visit us, I'd imagine! :p
--- Quote from: RainbowFaceProtege on May 02, 2024, 03:07:02 PM ---As for the scientific effort to detect alien life—well, that’s a whole other category. To me, the scientific Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) is not only worthwhile but necessary to our understanding of science as a whole. I mean, I couldn’t agree with your thoughts more. The way I’ve always seen it, there isn’t even a question of whether life on other planets exists. The more we explore space, the more we find that the circumstances which led to life evolving on Earth aren’t particularly rare elsewhere, as shown by the examples you mentioned. Going further, I don’t find it hard to believe that life with a level of intelligence similar to ours could exist out there. In fact, it seems quite egotistical to me how some people think humans are the only intelligent forms of life in existence. We live in a universe that’s incomprehensibly vast and filled with far more unknowns than knowns—what makes us so sure we’re alone? “What limited thinking,” indeed!
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Yep, yep, yep! Our Earth ain't as special as some may think, and we as a species shouldn't be too special either! It's sad, the amount of egotisticalness humans can have. Some of them could really use a go-o-o-od humbling in the grand scheme of things. And well, this fishy ain't surprised, some even still think humans are separate from animals apparently... :rolleyes
--- Quote from: RainbowFaceProtege on May 02, 2024, 03:07:02 PM ---
--- Quote ---I'm curious why nobody mentions trying to find life in general...doesn't have to be "big brain" like the humans that we are right now that have evolved from monkeys.
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On the topic of less advanced extraterrestrial life, I will say that there was quite a stir in the 90s over a meteorite from Mars, ALH 84001, that supposedly showed fossil evidence of microscopic life. This was later concluded to be inaccurate, but the claim caused a lot of excitement in the scientific community at the time.
All this being said, the question is when and where will we confirm the existence of alien life, and will our own species even survive long enough to do so? I suppose, as Neil deGrasse Tyson put it, “There are times, at least for now, when we must be content to love the questions themselves.”
:rainbowThinking
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Was there ever talk about microscopic life or something being possible in the leftover traces of water on Mars despite the atmosphere being stripped away like, long long time ago? That would be something quite interesting to Mo-o-o-o as well. :olittlefoot
And also, personally I don't think it should be too far-fetched for microscopic life like that to possibly hitch rides on meteorites and perhaps land on planets...and adapt/flourish with the right conditions. :rainbowThinking
Nice words of wisdom from Tyson. :DD
However, knowing all of the selfishness, greediness, division, hate, and crime that currently still plagues our world a lot to this day unfortunately, Mo-o-o have his doubts if we can survive long enough as a species. Really really hopeful for a better future, but I'm not holding my breath. It really feels like to me, that greediness, planned obsolescence, and corruption are the top three biggest factors of why technology doesn't seem to be advancing as fast as it used to.
RainbowFaceProtege:
Yes, one has to wonder why flying saucers, quite a blatantly unusual-looking aircraft to be “secretly” investigating another planet with, would be an advanced alien race’s go-to vehicles. Truly, they probably wouldn’t be very efficient! The U.S. government once tried to develop a real-life saucer-shaped aircraft (the Avrocar), but it didn’t perform very well and the project was cancelled. So I guess it’s no wonder the aliens’ flying saucers always crash-land in those stories! :p That being said, I have a couple model flying saucers sitting on the desk in front of me as I type this, anyway. :DD
There has indeed been speculation about whether past or present microbial Martian life could be possible as a result of the traces of water found there, and I would love to see that discovery happen someday! The implications would be amazing!
:)littlefoot
I also don’t see why microscopic life couldn’t be transported through the universe via celestial bodies such as meteorites. If evidence of life did show up on Mars in the future, one would have to wonder if it was at all related to our planet’s life forms by some such means.
As for the state of human affairs these days…well, I can’t really put it any better than you already did. :bang
ImpracticalDino:
--- Quote from: RainbowFaceProtege on May 15, 2024, 04:08:30 PM ---Yes, one has to wonder why flying saucers, quite a blatantly unusual-looking aircraft to be “secretly” investigating another planet with, would be an advanced alien race’s go-to vehicles. Truly, they probably wouldn’t be very efficient! The U.S. government once tried to develop a real-life saucer-shaped aircraft (the Avrocar), but it didn’t perform very well and the project was cancelled. So I guess it’s no wonder the aliens’ flying saucers always crash-land in those stories! :p That being said, I have a couple model flying saucers sitting on the desk in front of me as I type this, anyway. :DD
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Welp, that fiction couldn't become the reality that the U.S government was hoping for. Well...perhaps for the best, as you were saying, since those flying saucer disk vehicles always crash-land onto other planets! But wait... they always crash-land, yes...and always onto Earth, yes (which will happen because our stories will center around our home planet, of course...). Though, the point I'm making with this is that the aliens are usually quite successful at traveling with their saucer disk aircrafts, only crashing and ruining their spaceship when they attempt to land on other foreign planets. So essentially, the only problem for the aliens is their landing trajectory, always leading to unfortunate crashes. :(
So while in reality the flying saucer disk wouldn't work well in the first place, it seems in our fictional stories, aliens are just super bad at landing their flying spaceship. They need to hire actual alien space pilots, Mo-o-o would say. :lol
And well... what any self-respecting protege of the rainbowfaces would not have some alien memorabilia? :OhYou
--- Quote from: RainbowFaceProtege on May 15, 2024, 04:08:30 PM ---There has indeed been speculation about whether past or present microbial Martian life could be possible as a result of the traces of water found there, and I would love to see that discovery happen someday! The implications would be amazing!
:)littlefoot
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Yep, yep, yep. Mo-o-o would be excited to know about that as well. Though, I'm wondering as well when astronomers will discover evidence of life that used to roam on Mars, not just microbial life found in remaining water. Since from what I've learned/heard about Mars, it should've been a habitable planet for life to be sustained before its atmosphere was completely stripped by the solar winds from the sun. Which unfortunately, was due to the weakening of its magnetic field a very long time ago.
:ChomperOhNo
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