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i like the length of the scene, i think that it seems like the dialogue and the animation don't seem quite right because while you can hear them speaking there's no movement accept for his mothers tail which eventually becomes still. they're not moving even though you can hear them talking. but really you can only notice it if you really look for a fault  :smile

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1988 Theatrical Release / I Will Chase Them!
« on: January 14, 2012, 01:39:35 PM »
Nope i give it to you that would be scarier if he were intelligent/cunning, my problem with Sharptooth being more human is that like the predators in the later films (the mysterious island) they can be reasoned with. or at least it seems like you could reason with them. And yes no sharptooth is EVER going to be as scary as the original it just seems like Littlefoot saves Chomper and boom suddenly his mum and dad swear off eating the kids. Granted they MIGHT get a one time reprieve but it seems to me that as soon as you are able to bargain with the baddies or make a deal even just once they aren't anywhere near as scary.

If The first Sharptooth saw you, he was coming for you and you had to give it legs. The rest seem to be more like well there's a chance of survival you could trick them or even hope to fight back. As we know even a full grown sauropod would probably lose against the first one.

But that's getting more towards the whole "why aren't the new sharpteeth as scary as the first" and well we all know how that argument goes!

 :lol

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i know what you mean, the scene feels like it should have been longer, personally i like it as is but yeah i mean they're both there talking you can here their voices but neither character is moving and that is the point when everything is very still (aside from is mother's tail settling) that it feels like she's died.

in other words if you close your eyes and watch the scene, you can picture them talking and it feels like the camera should still be up close

now if you watch it without sound, at the point where the camera zooms out and her tail stops moving, that's the part when it feels like she's died

ok not very well explained but i hope you get the gist  :huh:

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1988 Theatrical Release / This is interesting
« on: January 14, 2012, 12:03:56 PM »
It's an interesting point but an odd one to figure out, when the earthquake breaks up all the herds at the end of this scene Cera's father calls to her and Cera shouts "mama, Daddy!" and the narrator says "Cera was on one side of the divide, her parents were on the other."
so we know at this point we know they're both alive, later Cera says "when i find my sisters i won't BE alone" so she's sure that her sisters are alive.
Now right at the end when everyone is reunited we see Cera run to her father but if you watch carefully as the camera begins to pan towards Littlefoot, you can see all the dinosaurs and just off center of the shot there are two adult Triceratops and one young one. i never noticed until this topic came up but every time i've ever seen this bit i just assumed it was Cera and her parents.



I would also ask this, what happens to Ducky's Dad?     :confused

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1988 Theatrical Release / I Will Chase Them!
« on: January 14, 2012, 11:28:49 AM »
i don't know, you make him human and suddenly he doesn't seem as scary (well not to me). I'd say he's supposed to be purely animalistic in most respects, but when he gets sight of the kids boom he's total predator so you're supposed to hate him and fear him. further more if there were multiple predators and they came across a different one each time then the audience would be thinking "wow this situation sucks but then it could just be bad luck" but if they see the same one then they know he's the bad guy he's the villain etc
as people have said the herds are all heading west so the predators are going to follow them. and remember there are far fewer predators than prey so the kids are more likely to come across the same one again and again. as well as that predators (or for you palaeontologysts who subscribe to the idea of Rex being a scavenger; then large scavengers) have very large territories so there's even less chance of them coming across another sharptooth.
as has been said during the final fight scene the characters paths cross in what is really just a coincidence. dear old mister Sharptooth sees Ducky and thinks he's going to take the chance of this little snack. When he losses her in the pond and spots the others (who are bigger and so more nutritional   :blink:  ) he goes for them, admittedly there's the chance that seeing Littlefoot might make him crave a little revenge but i'm not sure. I'd imagine that after perusing them so vigorously through the thorns and getting his ass handed to him by a mother on a mission i'd think he'd just accept his knocks and get on with life

but that's just my thoughts  :confused

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1988 Theatrical Release / Outcut land before time scenes
« on: January 14, 2012, 11:03:14 AM »
didn't one of the Finnish guys on here say that some tv company he'd contacted had a copy of one of the early runs (slightly longer than 69 mins but not as long as the original FULL length one that got chopped)?   :blink:

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1988 Theatrical Release / Outcut land before time scenes
« on: May 21, 2011, 02:03:48 PM »
hey what do you guys make of this?

http://www.tvmovie.de/Trailer.92.0.html?&d...844&arrange=321

stumbled across this while trying to find a way of watching it online. the running time confused me (yeah it's taking into account adverts and such but still) and the pictures were interesting.

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1988 Theatrical Release / Outcut land before time scenes
« on: May 17, 2011, 03:25:37 PM »
Is that on Super RTL TV in Germany? been trying to see if i can watch this channel on the internet but i'm having some trouble there. does anybody have a link to somewhere i can watch online (if such a thing is possible)? :lol

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General Land Before Time / Troodon
« on: January 26, 2011, 07:36:09 AM »
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Actually I heard that troodon's teeth more resemble an omnivore's or herbivore's than a pure carnivore's.

i stand corrected  :lol:  the teeth are omnivorous, thanks for this correction, i welcome constructive critisisms  :)  .

but i still stand by my analysis of Troodon as primarily a carnivore. the binocular vision and large 'sicle' claw on the second toe support this as does it's relativley close relationship to dromeosaurs such as velociraptor and deinonychus.

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General Land Before Time / Troodon
« on: January 25, 2011, 04:31:15 PM »
My understanding was that Troodon was primarily a carnivore (at least the actual troodon is). Large claws, binocular vision, sharp teeth . . . it's overall body plan is very similar to a velociraptor. It is also believed to be one of the most intelligent dinosaurs, certainly relative to it's size it had a VERY large brain.
 :smile

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General Land Before Time / Bones and the dead
« on: January 24, 2011, 08:00:00 AM »
indeed i think the last walk would be the most likely end but as has been said i think in the case of accidents or sudden illness the bodies would be covered or if possible moved.

Littlefoot obviously shows grief and mourns the loss of his mother, and as Saft said elephants are a great example of mourning in the animal kingdom. many animals show this sort of behaviour. most of the time it seems they will just stay around the body for a few days but often (in particular with migratory animals) they will revisit the site of a loved one's death and some do cover the remains.

there is a case in Utah (or was it Montana?) of a bone bed of mostly hadrosaurs that were uncovered and their remains showed they had died over a period of several hundred years. seasonal deposits showed very clearly the different years that had passed between the deaths. almost all of these animals were adults (though there were a few sub-adults). now they might've been migrating and died on route to say a nesting ground (hence no young) but i like to think there was more to it than that.  

(just realised how long that is  :blink:  !)

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The Welcome Center / New Guy
« on: January 22, 2011, 12:29:59 PM »
hi there, thanks for the welcome. yes there are only a very small number of unis that run this type of course:
Portsmouth (where i am)
Southampton (though i'm not sure if they are still running it)
Leicester
and Cambridge

my course is going very well thank you Saft  :)
it's hard being so far from home but everyone here is very nice and i can't wait to get properly stuck into the course.

erm i think the earlier LBT films (obviously following the original) are better. though they are all very entertaining they just seem to be running out of ideas. perhaps some fan fuelled ideas need injecting  :lol

i would love to discuss palaeontology with anyone that's interested. i love the chance to share ideas and discuss different points of view  :lol:

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1988 Theatrical Release / Outcut land before time scenes
« on: January 20, 2011, 07:32:54 PM »
Excatly Malte279, that's just what I mean  :)   it's nice to read it and ponder on the possibilities of it being true but all too often it's a passing remark blown out of all proportion.


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1988 Theatrical Release / Outcut land before time scenes
« on: January 20, 2011, 07:10:29 PM »
Oh yeah, don't get me wrong i don't exactly trust wikipedia. but i find it's a good starting point, because it has links at the bottom of the page so you can follow them to do your own research.

Citation needed basically means that that particular peice of information needs referencing. In other words you need to be able to show your source. some of the sections marked as [citation needed] literally just need a link to the source adding. Others though (and this is why i'm tentative) are snippets of convosation or things that have been heard that might just be rumour. The author might've heard this from a friend, who heard it from some guy etc.

Like you say though, 2012 is a ways off yet but i for one shall be waiting with baited breath.

I can't believe they'd've just thrown away these cut scenes, but then again what do i know. if they'd shown test audiences the initial edit then used their feed back to do some more cuts before the final release surely that means there's the full sequence somewhere. HA listen to me i know nothing of the film industry and i'm making these sorts of judgements!

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1988 Theatrical Release / Outcut land before time scenes
« on: January 20, 2011, 04:12:24 PM »
hey i know as an academic (well atleast i'm supposed to be) it's kind of a taboo to use wikipedia but . . .
i was reading the LBT page on wikipedia and in the 'legacy' section of the page, it states:

"In 2012, The Land Before Time should be released on Two-Disc DVD and First Time Ever High Definition Blu-Ray Disc as the 25th Anniversary Edition with "Back to The Land Before Time" featurette, never-before seen deleted scenes, theatrical trailer and much more."

It does clearly say that "citation needed" but all the same i'm wondering where this has come from? especially considering how the dut scenes are 1) supposed to have been lost 2) Don Bluth has said there is no plans to release any anniversay addition?

this might already have been asked but i was wondering if someone could shed some light here?

Cheers

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The Welcome Center / New Guy
« on: January 19, 2011, 08:51:13 PM »
Oddly enough i'm studying palaeobiology and evolution. LBT was the door way, as soon as it was open when i was erm i dunno about 4 that's it i've wanted to dig up dinosaurs.
Saddly i have something of an issue getting my knowledge from my brain to my paper. But i figure if university doesn't work out then hell or high water i'm going to keep wprking in this field  :lol:
Thanks for the great welcome guys, i've got a good feeling about this  :)

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The Welcome Center / New Guy
« on: January 19, 2011, 06:59:12 PM »
Hi there.
My name's Tom and obviously i'm new. i'm 19 (yes LBT is my guilty/secret pleasure) and a fulltime student at uni in England. i've got to say i stumbled across this forum completely by accident. i had no idea there was anywhere near this many people who cared about the Land Before Time  :lol:  

I've read a few posts on here and i won't pretend to be a bigger fan or know more than other people but i'd say that the original film has had more impact on my life than probably any other film i've ever seen!

Anyway i'm rambling, i'll just say hi once more and i hope to chat soon.  :wave

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