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General Land Before Time / Journey of the Brave Songs Now on YouTube
« on: March 07, 2016, 10:54:35 PM »
Universal's staff should put the songs up on YouTube themselves. People would get to listen to the songs whenever they want. Univeral would get to collect add revenue and advertise the movie. Everyone would win.

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Silver Screen / The Lion Guard
« on: March 07, 2016, 10:37:40 PM »
Fun fact - Ford Riley, who is credited with writing seven episodes of The Lion Guard so far, apparently worked on The Land Before Time TV series. IMDB credits him as a "Developer" for 20 of the show's episodes, along with being a story editor and writer.

I only found out about The Lion Guard recently, but what I've seen of it looks fun and entertaining. As a fan of 2D animation, the show's strong visuals are a real treat -- an example of what modern 2D Disnney animation can look like in an era when it's been overshadowed by the likes of Tangled and Frozen. Don't get me wrong -- I like those movies fine enough. But there's undeniable nostalgia in seeing old-school Disney visuals shine again with a modern sheen.

For a Disney Junior show, The Lion Guard at least tries to include a sense of action and danger in its plots. Take this fight with the Hyenas, for example. It certainly seems to take itself more seriously than Jake and the Never Land Pirates or Sofia the First. Those shows are blatantly aimed at a much younger audience than their theatrical source material. Compared to them, The Lion Guard feels much closer in tone and aesthetic to the actual Lion King.

There are delightful characters like Jasiri who expand the world of The Lion King and plenty of fun songs, even if some are a bit too inoffensive. Forgive the blasphemy, but I actually like Sisi ni Sawa a good deal more than Hakuna Matata. The show probably introduces continuity issues between it and The Lion King 2, but I'd be lying if I said I cared a whole awful lot about that.

As for the earlier Lion King vs Kimba discussion, I think it's more than possible that Disney borrowed from the legendary Osamu Tezuka's work, and that is in no way a bad thing. The inspiration lifted from Tezuka's manga is fairly innocent -- the lion-shaped clouds and the Pride Rock iconography being examples. Disney added more than enough to make its story stand on its own, without ripping off Kimba. Heck, the movie's plot borrows more from Hamlet, something hardly anyone blames it for compared to the overwrought Kimba controversy.

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General Land Before Time / Sequels Personal Ranking
« on: February 23, 2016, 07:27:42 AM »
Counting only the sequels I've seen and have clear memories of, my ranking looks like this:

1. The Stone of Cold Fire
2. Journey of the Brave
3. The Mysterious Island
4. Journey Through the Mists
5. Secret of Saurus Rock
6. The Great Valley Adventure
7. The Time of the Great Giving
8. Invasion of the Tinysaureses

Out of all the sequels, I find The Stone of Cold Fire the most interesting. Mostly, I like that it gave us a compelling antagonist: Pterano, who had both a tragic back story and motives that didn't involve eating the main characters for once. Add the surreal weirdness of extraterrestrials showing up, and the movie easily takes my top spot.

Maybe it's just the movie's newness befuddling my impressions, but I actually think Journey of the Brave is my second favorite sequel. I liked its simple, but exciting adventure. I liked its songs. I liked its character interactions. Honestly, I was surprised by how good it was.

The next two sequels, The Mysterious Island and Journey Through the Mists, were both enjoyable adventures with memorable settings. My Chomper favoritism gives his movie the edge, but Journey Through the Mists featured lots of great characters too. Ali, Archie, Dil, Itchy - the list goes on. Also, am I the only one who finds the Old One unintentionally hilarious? She's like a walking stereotype of stuffy old people.

Secret of Saurus Rock would be higher on my list if it weren't for Cera's nieces, who seemingly exist only to distract us from the movie's serious moments. It's a shame, since Doc is a great, mysterious character, and the legend of The Lone Dinosaur adds a welcome layer of history to The Land Before Time's mythology.

Even though it introduces one of my favorite characters, The Great Valley Adventure is lower on my list simply because I find the others stronger. That said, it deserves credit for giving us our first prolonged look at The Great Valley. It also gets points for exciting scenes with the Sinking Sands and the erupting volcano.

In general, I don't like generic bully characters, and The Time of the Great Giving constantly shoves three of them in our faces. It makes up for it with Mr. Threehorn's strong role and the surprisingly touching "Kids Like Us" lesson. But otherwise, I find it to be one of the weaker sequels. Still, it's not as mediocre as Invasion of the Tinysaureses, which was way too silly -- even by the standards of the other sequels.

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General Land Before Time / Journey of the Brave (LBT 14)
« on: February 12, 2016, 04:37:22 AM »
The Land Before Time: Journey of the Brave has a "Best Seller" tag listed next to it on Walmart's online store.


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General Land Before Time / Journey of the Brave (LBT 14)
« on: February 11, 2016, 06:02:33 PM »
Journey of the Brave is currently listed under "Top Picks for Kids" on Netflix. And on my account, it's the first one to show up on the horizontal scroll, before shows like Young Justice, Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated, Uncle Grandpa, The Garfield Show, Pokemon XY, and the 2015 Inspector Gadget cartoon.

Impressive streaming numbers are probably just as important these days as DVD sales, if not more so. If the movie does well, Netflix will no doubt gladly buy the broadcast rights for future ones, giving Universal a bankable Land Before Time revenue source.

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What I meant was that there were times they were out of character, but for some reason, they made plot work so well, it hardly mattered.

Interesting - I didn't notice any glaring out-of-character moments. What examples stood out to you?

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General Land Before Time / Will LBT continue after JOTB?
« on: February 11, 2016, 05:53:19 PM »
The studio probably won't tell the actors anything until solid plans for a new movie are in place. Movie-making can be a secretive business a lot of the time.

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General Land Before Time / Journey of the Brave (LBT 14)
« on: February 09, 2016, 05:56:17 PM »
Weird. I don't remember these cartoon sound effects people are talking about at all. I knew about them before watching the movie, but I flat-out didn't notice any that stood out. Guess I'll have to listen for them when I watch the movie again tonight.

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I also don't get why Chomper and Ruby were soo underplayed. Their members of the gang now so why not have them come along with them!?

I imagine the filmmakers wanted to give the original gang of five most of the focus, to make the movie feel more reminiscent of the other ones.

That, and having fewer characters on screen likely helped them save money on animation.  :DD

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I see the personality flaws, but they make the plot work so well.

I'm curious what you mean by this, pokeplayer. The only personality flaws I noticed in the film were the ones that the characters have always had to a certain extent. Stuff like Littlefoot always wanting to be the leader and Cera complaining about various things. These flaws make them who they are. Without them, they'd be rather boring to watch.

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General Land Before Time / Journey of the Brave (LBT 14)
« on: February 05, 2016, 04:47:18 PM »
Eh, I was fine with the ending. It felt like a fitting place to wrap up the movie. What else could they have shown, anyway? Saving Bron was the story's climax, and there weren't any loose ends left to explore afterwards. Not any that I remember, at least. Besides that, all the characters who actually mattered in the movie were already gathered in one place at the end, making the need to see them return to the Great Valley even less important.

Oddly enough, the fleshed-out opening was probably my least favorite part of the movie - at least the scenes with the narration. It went on and on, and all I could do was shout in my head, "Show don't tell! Show don't tell! Show don't tell!" It was too much, even when taking the intended audience's age into account.

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General Land Before Time / Journey of the Brave (LBT 14)
« on: February 04, 2016, 09:26:49 AM »
As I wrote in the spoiler-free thread, I enjoyed the new movie quite a bit. It actually surprised me with how good it turned out - especially the art direction. Those were some genuinely stunning backgrounds - the texture of them added a charming richness to the art. On the other end of the quality spectrum, the CGI effects were questionable at best, but the animators thankfully didn't use them much. Maybe my standards have become more forgiving from having to endure how mediocre Dragon Ball Super looks a lot of the time, but the animation pleased me for the most part.


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Even though Ruby and (especially) Chomper are two of my favorite characters, I liked that the original gang of five were the central focus of the film. It felt more nostalgic that way. At the same time, I'm glad the writers gave the newer gang members a noteworthy role in the story. Chomper was as adorable and charming as ever - and it seems he's grown a bit since we last saw him. He at least looked bigger next to Ruby than he did during the TV series, though that might have been just an artistic license the character designers took, rather than a deliberate way to make him look older.

The new characters made good impressions. Wild Arm's frantic, self-centered antics were amusing and I liked Etta's sense of humor. For a moment those lizards Petrie ran into stole the show for me too. I always love tiny creatures with tons of energy. The science geek in me also appreciated the feathered dinosaurs. Their modern designs don't fit perfectly alongside the older characters, but I'll take what little scientific accuracy I can get when it comes to a cartoon. I appreciate that the staff put in that extra effort when they could have easily side-stepped the feathers entirely like Jurassic World recently did.

In the grand tradition of the Land Before Time series, the movie introduced a new natural disaster for Littlefoot and his friends to survive. The Sand Cloud was a nice touch. On a side note, I still find it hilarious how disaster-prone the Great Valley and surrounding areas are. Littlefoot's mother conveniently left that detail out when she was advertising the place. :lol:

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General Land Before Time / Biggest earthquake in the films?
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:49:57 AM »
There's no beating the Earthquake in the original. It packed genuine intensity, literally reshaping the landscape.

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General Land Before Time / Spoiler-free thoughts on Journey of the Brave
« on: February 04, 2016, 08:42:07 AM »
Despite a few nitpicks here and there, I largely adored the new movie. It delivered a simple new adventure starring our favorite dinosaur friends. There really isn't much more I could have asked for. As far as Land Before Time sequels go, I'd rank it among the better ones, easily. The plot might not have been as memorable or complex compared to movies like Journey Through the Mists or The Stone of Cold Fire, but it was definitely just as fun, if not more so.

For a direct-to-video 2D animated movie, the animation was solid, and the painted backgrounds stunning, I'd say. Voice work was top-notch too. Littlefoot and Chomper opened their mouths and sounded like Littlefoot and Chomper - not just poor imitations. The new voices for Grandpa Longneck and Mr. Threehorn were notably different, but not bad by any means. Most importantly, all the characters behaved like their old selves, and the new characters entertained with amusing personalities and quirks. The songs didn't take me out of the movie, and most were actually pretty catchy.

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General Land Before Time / Journey of the Brave (LBT 14)
« on: February 02, 2016, 04:25:01 AM »
Quote from: pokeplayer984,Feb 1 2016 on  01:03 PM
I'll be watching it on Netflix as I seriously CAN'T wait for my copy to come in the mail.  So, what timezone does Netflix follow when it comes to releasing something in the US?  Anyone know?
Same here. There's no Walmart near where I live -- my home town's city council actually voted against the construction of one a few years ago. I'll still buy the DVD. Heck, I would have already if Walmart's website didn't keep giving me an error message whenever I try to use my Paypal account to place an order.

Looking at the trailer again, I do hope Ruby and Chomper are given more screen-time than glorified cameos. I'm also bracing myself for the new voices for Grandpa Longneck and Mr. Threehorn. Kenneth Mars and John Ingle were the voices of my childhood...

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General Land Before Time / Journey of the Brave (LBT 14)
« on: January 30, 2016, 02:27:39 PM »
Oddly enough, both this and another animated film I've been looking forward to -- Batman: Bad Blood -- come out on the same day. That's going to be an interesting double feature.

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1988 Theatrical Release / Blu-Ray Release Date: Oct. 13
« on: January 30, 2016, 02:20:19 PM »
Up close, that Robin Hood screenshot looks a tad problematic to me. Colors look too smeared and soft, and the movie's filmic qualities have been scrubbed away. It's not the worst of Disney's "restorations" -- that award goes to Sword in the Stone -- but I can't support such revisionist  tampering.

For older films, the grain is part of the picture. It gives them a natural, textured look, compared to the shiny animation we get today. The problems with the Land Before Time Blu-ray have nothing to do with its healthy grain field. More so, there's too much inconsistency between different frames. Some look bold, but others are noticeably blurrier. At it's best, the Blu-ray looks stunning and remarkably authentic. I just wish it looked that way all the time.

Reanimate The Land Before Time? For me, that amounts to cinematic blasphemy. The film derives much of its charm and mood from the earthy colors of its cel animation. Any remake would undoubtedly fall short and insult Don Bluth's legacy as an animator and artist.

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General Land Before Time / Journey of the Brave (LBT 14)
« on: October 14, 2015, 07:29:44 AM »
I doubt Universal would bother with a second trailer for a direct-to-video kids film. One trailer should more than suffice for its advertising needs. Besides, the announcement trailer already gives us a fairly comprehensive overview of the movie.

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1988 Theatrical Release / Blu-Ray Release Date: Oct. 13
« on: October 14, 2015, 06:42:59 AM »
Quote from: Campion1,Oct 13 2015 on  03:18 PM
Edit: Oop, they said they don't have it. Looking on blu-ray dot com, a review for it isn't very positive
I wouldn't pay that review much attention. It's just written by a user, who sounds pretty clueless on a number of points. I'd wait for the site's official review to go up.

Anyway, here are some high-res screen posted on the Blu-ray forum:

Cera and her parents
Littlefoot's having a hard time
Littlefoot's having a hard time :(
Cera vs. a bubble
Littlefoot near the canyon
Cera and Littlefoot
Sharptooth in the pool
The gang of five's happy ending
The gang of five's happy ending

Overall, I'm pretty pleased with how these screens look. The transfer looks very natural. It's a shame there are no extras, such as the deleted scenes, but it's hard to include something that probably doesn't exist anymore. I wish the disc included a 4:3 version of the film, since that's the aspect ration I grew up watching the Land Before Time on VHS, but at least the widescreen version doesn't cut out anything vital. Technically, it was framed to be projected that way in theaters anyway.

@pokeplayer984 - Based off the screens, this is definitely a new HD transfer. A Blu-ray having grain doesn't indicate it's an upscale. The picture is supposed to have grain. It's the result of transferring the original animation cels to film. The grain structure is an intrinsic part of the picture now, and removing it would have required invasive digital noise reduction. Of course, whether the picture is too grainy in places is a matter of personal taste, and I'll have to reserve my judgement for when I watch the Blu-ray firsthand. They probably could have toned the grain down in places, though I'll take grain that's a little heavy over what you get when you scrub it away. I'm looking at you, Funimation!
I'm looking at you, Funimation!

By the way, hello everyone. It's nice to finally join the board.  :wave

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