I may make a habit of bumping this once a month just to keep it alive.  

This would be pretty cool!

At first glance, I feel it would be nice to sort the music in this thread by genre and subgenre as appropriate. This would:

1) Help people find music they're more likely to enjoy

2) Help people understand what they're listening to so they can maybe find more and

3) Save people time by helping them skip over music they're not likely interested in.

I don't know about you but if I just saw a giant un-organized list of music links, I'm not too likely to bother going through them all one by one.

Hey Ducky!

Any luck on this?

Just picked up Sun. Great game so far, 6 hours in!

Thanks Tim.

I'll be honest, it still sounds very good after so long.

I'm glad you enjoyed it

I'm glad it's still seeing some use after all these years. I originally wrote that arrangement for one of our Gang of Five karaoke projects. There's a version of that music with a large number of GoF members singing the full lyrics to the song, including myself. In an effort to deal with the fact that everyone was recording on a different mic, I drowned the vocal parts in noise reduction and reverb and in hindsight probably over-processed the crap out of it, but that's okay. The alternative was pretty rough, too, so I made a call and ran with it.

At least for myself though, I use the term "singing" quite loosely. Singing was never exactly a strong skill of mine.  

I still have that version posted up online if you're curious:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B96eLzW5-...cF9GcWk5M0V3bkk

At 1:28 in this vocal version, you can hear myself, tobeysan and Amethyst singing the second verse and second chorus. This was especially memorable for me because the 3 of us are friends in real life and we actually got together in tobeysan's basement, rigged up some audio equipment and recorded all 3 parts together, simultaneously on 2 computers and 3 microphones (panning 1 mic left and 1 mic right to capture both vocal parts independently).


I have an outtake recording of Tobeysan trying to sing the song for the first time and not knowing the lyrics. Ah, good times!

Actually, lemme find that because it's funny....

[EDIT] HA! Here we go!

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B96eLzW5-...dEkyWFY5YnpkZTQ

I made an instrumental arrangement of If We Hold On Together about 10 years ago (so the virtual instrument tech isn't quite up to par but I don't think it's awful). It's completely different from the original song but you're welcome to use it if you wish.

It can be downloaded here:


https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B96eLzW5-...NEFGYlo0OGk4WHc

It's basically impossible to get internet here at all for $40 / month.

The cheapest plan I'm aware of around here is $55 / month. It's 5 Mbps.
I'm only paying $25 more than that for 180 Mbps. I'm okay with that.  

Yeah it's a really dumb tier system.

It'd be great though if this tune got a little more appreciation and acknowledgement by the world and not simply be ignored just because it's not the mainstream tune everybody uses smile.gif

I will agree with this. I think it's pretty safe to say that most people who haven't studied music wouldn't even be aware of the fact that this debate exists or would ever have a concept of "standard tuning" in their minds. I know until I was exposed to the idea of standard tunings, I just figured an A was an A and a C was a C and that's how it was. The idea of there being different options didn't even exist as a concept to me.

I don't really have a strong opinion on this issue. What I will say is that having a standard makes everyone's life SO MUCH NICER!

Knowing that A=440 Hz for everything I do eliminates any problems.

There's a similar debate on whether we, as humans, should be using Base 12 for numeric work rather than Base 10. Base 10 was chosen fairly arbitrarily, for simple reasons such as having 10 fingers to count with. Base 12, however, would have simplified a lot of things in mathematics according to a number of experts.

At this point though, Base 10 is so ingrained into our society that the gains of switching to base 12 are offset by the extreme difficulty of making the switch. Same issue with QWERTY keyboard. DVORAK exists but it's far from ubiquitous despite being a "better" keyboard layout as it was designed with speed and comfort in mind, versus QWERTY which was designed to minimize typewriter jamming. QWERTY (AZERTY, etc.) is simply the de facto standard because it's everywhere. It may not be ideal but it's easier and more productive than trying to switch the standard across the world.

It appears to be a similar thing with the 432 vs 440 debate. 440 is so common in modern culture, from the software common in the music industry to how students are taught in music classes. Arguing that 432 is somehow "better" is rather subjective and convincing the world to switch is likely an effort in futility.

As for me? I don't really care. Switching would be a heck of a lot of work for the world and the gains seem minimal and inconsistent from genre to genre of music. I don't really see a reason to switch globally. 432 can be a composition technique if your music calls for it and that's fine. Introducing musicians to the concept of 432 is probably a very good idea but switching standards is honestly more trouble than it's worth.

If he can't wreck it, I can!