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Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Megatoph on May 25, 2006, 12:40:43 AM
uh I'll let you guys and gals go first then I'll tell you what I would like to do.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Megatoph on May 25, 2006, 01:47:36 AM
OK OK I'LL TELL MINE. what ever happend to the edit butten?

I'd like to see (and I've said this many times on here) Ali come back. I'd like to see a Littlefoot and Ali love connection and I'd like to see Bron make a comeback too.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: pokeplayer984 on May 25, 2006, 09:24:01 AM
I, myself would like to see Ali return again.  In fact, several of us members would enjoy having Ali return and having a love relationship with Littlefoot.  Of course, we just can't expect the writers to bring her back just to end up having a relationship with Littlefoot.  However, that doesn't mean that they wouldn't do it as a subplot.  Something that makes sense.  A basic reason for her return, and some sort of new adventure that we would never expect.  One that would work with the whole LBT movies.  In fact, I know one member here who would really enjoy that. :)

Now, there's a reason that Bron should return.  It's basically because he has a few things to clear up that Malte has been able to point out that just don't make sense at all within the series.  In fact, I am beginning to accept most of his points, but that doesn't mean that I haven't stopped enjoying LBT 10.

If you want to check out mine and Malte's little debate on this movie, go here: http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive/i...p?showtopic=483 (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=381)

Of course, over all that debating, I have been able to satisfy him with at least one point. :)

Now, the return of Bron would mean the return of Shorty, as Bron did finally adopt him.  And if you add in Ali returning as well, just imagine the little fued that would happen with these two "brothers." ;) A little competition for the one you love. *sighs* I love it! :^.^:

I wouldn't mind a few of the villians returning as well.  Ozzy and Strut returning would be very nice.  I'm sure the moment they run into Littlefoot and the gang, they'll want their revenge. :) Malte's story of "The Cold Time", I must say, works very well with this.

Then there's Sierra and Rinkus.  Now there's a couple of villians that down right scared me. *shudders* Them returning would be very nice.  But I wonder what kind of plot would work with those guys.  Ah, the possibilities. :^.^:

Pterano has no longer been accepted as a villian, and others within the valley getting to accept him once again would be a very nice subplot to work with.  In fact, there were speculations with LBT XII, with the name and all, being Pterano's return.  However, all speculations have died now thanks to the information we have recieved from Aria, who plays the voice of Ducky. :^.^:

What I want as a main plot?  I'm not sure of yet. -_- As long as the writers stay within the means of LBT, I think we can accept whatever they come up with. :^.^:

Well, that's all I can think of. :)

(Boy, do I know how to abuse smilies or what? :lol)

Well, see ya later. B)
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: WeirdRaptor on May 25, 2006, 09:43:20 AM
I'd return the series to form and remove all the ridiculous songs, and only play them at the ending credits. The last time they had a truly good song was about six sequels ago.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Megatoph on May 25, 2006, 05:35:48 PM
uh pokeplayer I think sierra and rinkus were destroyed were they not? I saw the rock expload. if that didn't kill them I don't know how they would have survived the blast of that rock. also sence shorty is a diffrent type of dinosaur I don't think he and littlefoot would go on a feud to win Ali over. (the idea of outa species relationship be a little strange for LBT don't you think?) but its more of how Bron would think of a relationship with LittleFoot and Ali. its allways the parents that gives it a problem.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Malte279 on May 25, 2006, 06:28:16 PM
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uh pokeplayer I think sierra and rinkus were destroyed were they not?
No they weren't. You could see them being hurled away by the blast. They landed on a rocky shelf that looked pretty much like the one where Pterano had his VIC song. Here is a picture in which you can see Sierry being hurled that way (he is in the the background).
(http://mitglied.lycos.de/malte279/Gang25.JPG)
The next moment you could see the two of them lying there intertwined. They sure looked smouldering and rather battered, but they were groaning and definitely alive.
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The last time they had a truly good song was about six sequels ago.
Which was that last song you liked WR?
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Now, there's a reason that Bron should return. It's basically because he has a few things to clear up that Malte has been able to point out that just don't make sense at all within the series.
I'm afraid that if they bring Bron back (quite possible), they still wouldn't bother to even try to correct the mistakes in Bron's story. I'm afraid they would just go on. How could that story be fixed anyway (suppose that would be a question for our LBT 10 thread).
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In fact, I am beginning to accept most of his points, but that doesn't mean that I haven't stopped enjoying LBT 10.
I'm glad to hear that. Spoiling the movie for anyone has never been my intention, but I do say why I am disappointed of it and why I don't take Bron's story.
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Now, the return of Bron would mean the return of Shorty, as Bron did finally adopt him. And if you add in Ali returning as well, just imagine the little fued that would happen with these two "brothers."  A little competition for the one you love. *sighs* I love it!
I thought about something similar for one story. However, whith my immense reservations against Bron I don't suppose to ever write that story. The "competition" and anything going on between Ali and Littlefoot however would and should remain very harmless. I don't think there would be anything far beyond what we saw in LBT 10 which also makes any concerns on Bron's part (I'd almost say non of his business considering his behavior!) very unlikely. Remember, they are kids!
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Megatoph on May 25, 2006, 06:40:05 PM
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they are kidds!

hmmmm I don't know about that. in some cases they act like 13 year olds rather than 6 year olds. but there is no doubt these "KIDDS" can't get the shall I say "HOTS" for the oppesset sex. its a natrual thing and can happen at any age.

oh by the way Malt279 thanks for clearing that up about Sierra and Rinkus for me. I didn't remember if they survived.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: WeirdRaptor on May 26, 2006, 05:24:10 AM
Well, the last LBT sequel song that I really, really, adored was "Always There". "Bestest Friends" in LBT10, I believe, was far from bad, but I never really got into it. Aside from that, all the others either are completely forgettable as far as I'm concerned, or were so bad that they are permanantly branded into my brain so they that they can torment me for he rest of my life. (Remembering the "Lone Dinosaur" song. *shudders and is tempted to shot self*)
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Malte279 on May 26, 2006, 09:11:08 AM
Always there is certainly one of my favorites as well. While I do like Bestest Friends and won't find anything to say against it from the musical aspect it is my general opinion on LBT 10 which unjustly put the song a bit down in my evaluation. Both of these songs are sentimental themes, and sentimental themes in general are the tunes I tend to like best, while songs such as "Who needs you?" are definitely the bottom of the scale for me. I do see why you refuse the dinosaur songs and it was somewhat similar for me when I first saw; yet I grew quite accustomed to it. While it is not one of my favorites I don't oppose the "Lone Dinosaur" either. It's simply a matter of taste I suppose and each one may think of the other one's taste what he or she wants to think about it  :lol: No discussion possible on that I reckon.
One more sentimental song of the later movies which I really like would be "No one has to be alone".
Anyway if it comes to the question of new movies I would opt to keep the songs provided they are not getting bad altogether. This is where the taste matter comes in I'm afraid :lol
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but there is no doubt these "KIDDS" can't get the shall I say "HOTS" for the oppesset sex. its a natrual thing and can happen at any age.
I'm sorry, but you are contradicting yourself with these two sentences.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Megatoph on May 26, 2006, 09:00:34 PM
WHAT? NO! I said that even though they are "KIDS" it doesn't mean they can't have the same emotions as any one else. and! they CAN most deffently begain a relationship BY WILL!

thus they can and will gain intrest with the one that strikes that emotion.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: WeirdRaptor on May 26, 2006, 10:06:51 PM
Children that small do not begin relationships yet.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Megatoph on May 27, 2006, 05:07:15 PM
well you guys beleave what you want to beleave. BUT I stand by what I think.

ANYWHO what would you like to see or what would you change in a LBT sequel?
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: WeirdRaptor on May 28, 2006, 01:50:01 AM
Think what you want,b ut you're dead wrong.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: pokeplayer984 on May 28, 2006, 05:48:09 PM
I think what TITANOSAUR means is that you can devlop a CRUSH for someone at ANY age.  I believe that to be true since I know a friend of mine got one at the age of five.  Prove me wrong now. :p
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: WeirdRaptor on May 28, 2006, 06:55:31 PM
I don't have to. Yes, crushes happen, but relationships don't happen until way later. The children will have to be much, much for anything like that to happen. Top that.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Megatoph on May 28, 2006, 07:08:37 PM
I'm already finished with this conversation fellas I'm just waiting for someone to change the subject.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: WeirdRaptor on May 28, 2006, 10:15:43 PM
I'd like to see a spin-off series. Sure, the plots would be similar, but I think it would be interesting to see how different characters handle them, instead.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: action9000 on June 19, 2006, 01:42:15 AM
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Aside from that, all the others either are completely forgettable as far as I'm concerned, or were so bad that they are permanantly branded into my brain so they that they can torment me for he rest of my life. (Remembering the "Lone Dinosaur" song. *shudders and is tempted to shot self*)
Probably reading my "Top Tracks" (bottom section of the page) on this link won't be a great idea for you then, WR! :lol
http://www.last.fm/user/action9000/ (http://www.last.fm/user/action9000/)
That's what happens when I write MIDI files to songs without turning off my last.fm plugin, which captures the songs I play. :P:

Anyways, what would I like to see in a LBT sequel?
First of all, Here is the main element I'd like to see altered in future sequels:

-Sharpteeth: They've become embarrassingly unintelligent and conflicts with them have become rather uninteresting, especially since LBT 8, with the sharptooth being hit by the snowball.  LBT 10 was some of the weakest performances I have ever seen from a sharpteeth (especially from Three sharpteeth!).  LBT 11's 'tickling scene' wasn't any better.  I'm looking forward to some more intelligent sharpteeth. We can deduce that at least some sharpteeth are intelligent based on the actions of the sharptooth from the original LBT, as well as sharpteeth in LBT 3 (who worked together as a team reasonably well).  We saw in LBT 2 and 5 that sharpteeth also live family-based lives, and bond together, as any other creature.   I'd love to see some more intelligent aspects being shown in the sharpteeth.  Perhaps a male and female teaching their child how to hunt, or an intelligent couple hunting together without a child, would be for an interesting element of a sequel.

(BTW Malte and Adam, My Internet is working perfectly again now. :wow It was just something with my ISP.)
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Malte279 on June 19, 2006, 01:48:59 AM
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Sharpteeth: They've become embarrassingly unintelligent and conflicts with them have become rather uninteresting, especially since LBT 8, with the sharptooth being hit by the snowball. LBT 10 was some of the weakest performances I have ever seen from a sharpteeth (especially from Three sharpteeth!). LBT 11's 'tickling scene' wasn't any better. I'm looking forward to some more intelligent sharpteeth. We can deduce that at least some sharpteeth are intelligent based on the actions of the sharptooth from the original LBT, as well as sharpteeth in LBT 3 (who worked together as a team reasonably well). We saw in LBT 2 and 5 that sharpteeth also live family-based lives, and bond together, as any other creature. I'd love to see some more intelligent aspects being shown in the sharpteeth. Perhaps a male and female teaching their child how to hunt, or an intelligent couple hunting together without a child, would be for an interesting element of a sequel.
I definitely second that!  :yes
Also after two sequels with Chomper they still avoided really addressing the most significant problems about such a sharptooth / leafeater relationship. I wonder if Littlefoot would never feel compeled to think of his mother when he sees Chomper and his parents. I admit though that the topic is extremely difficult and there is no "solution" that wouldn't be at least somewhat utopic.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: action9000 on June 19, 2006, 01:51:21 AM
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wonder if Littlefoot would never feel compeled to think of his mother when he sees Chomper and his parents. I admit though that the topic is extremely difficult and there is no "solution" that wouldn't be at least somewhat utopic.
While this is a very interesting topic, perhaps it is too mature for an LBT film.  Such a concept in a well-written LBT fanfic could prove to be quite interesting, however.  I would love to see this done in the films, but I don't suspect it will ever be explained in any detail.

We can only hope the TV show addresses the leafeater/sharptooth conflict somewhat.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: pokeplayer984 on June 20, 2006, 02:00:19 AM
I think what the writers were trying to do for those disapproved ones, was trying to find new ways to defeat the sharpteeth.  You've gotta at least give them credit for trying to be creative.

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LBT 10 was some of the weakest performances I have ever seen from a sharpteeth (especially from Three sharpteeth!).

Well, they were at a disadvantage.  It's not easy to balance on a slope and fight at the same time.  They were up against 4 fully grown longnecks, all of which most likely knew how to fight sharpteeth, despite one being injured.  Add in a bunch of other factors that mainly revolve around timing, and they can't help but look pathetic in their situation.

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I wonder if Littlefoot would never feel compeled to think of his mother when he sees Chomper and his parents. I admit though that the topic is extremely difficult and there is no "solution" that wouldn't be at least somewhat utopic.

Hmm, I think Littlefoot thinks of his mother quite regularly.  A horrifying image such as that does not leave peacefully.  It sadly haunts you for the rest of your life.  How he's able to stay happy through his life is beyond me.  If you ask me, Littlefoot has alot of courage to face his demons within. :) (This requires more wisdom than knowledge to understand.)

Well, it's late here, and I'm tired.

See ya in the morning. :^.^:
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Malte279 on June 20, 2006, 01:30:43 PM
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Well, they were at a disadvantage. It's not easy to balance on a slope and fight at the same time. They were up against 4 fully grown longnecks, all of which most likely knew how to fight sharpteeth, despite one being injured. Add in a bunch of other factors that mainly revolve around timing, and they can't help but look pathetic in their situation.
Plus the longnecks are invulnerable  <_<
Though one sharptooth bites Bron's legs, the teeth don't leave so much as a scratch. How severely injured Pat managed to catch up with the kids who had run at the appearance of the sharptooth (whether upon his order or not, they did leave him behind after all) is hard to explain. Harder to explain is the strong backbone Shorty must have considering that a sharptooth treading upon him will slip rather than crushing him. It feels hard to consider something of such careless lack of realism original.
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Hmm, I think Littlefoot thinks of his mother quite regularly. A horrifying image such as that does not leave peacefully. It sadly haunts you for the rest of your life. How he's able to stay happy through his life is beyond me. If you ask me, Littlefoot has alot of courage to face his demons within.  (This requires more wisdom than knowledge to understand.)
While Littlefoot may think of his mother regularly, he never ever shows it in the presence of Chomper. I find it quite remarkable that he of all who may have a better reason than anyone to dread and dislike sharpteeth is the one who will not waver for a second in his trust towards Chomper, when even sweet-tempered Ducky and Spike won't feel at ease. Looking at Littlefoot's personality this kind of conduct doesn't seem to unrealistic for him, but a kind of inner conflict might perhaps be an enrichment to the story. It is kind of strange that while LBT 5 was the first ever sequel to mention Littlefoot's Mum they didn't draw the line between remembering her fate and Littlefoot's friendship with a species. I admit though that the result would be a difficult topic for an LBT story.
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: pokeplayer984 on June 21, 2006, 01:12:25 AM
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Plus the longnecks are invulnerable <_<
Though one sharptooth bites Bron's legs, the teeth don't leave so much as a scratch.

I think I figured out how to get around that.  Indeed, it doesn't seem to make sense when we consider what one bite in the back did to Littlefoot's Mother.  However, maybe there is one concept we didn't think of.  I'm guessing that the skin of a longneck is rather tough to break through and requires a special method to tear it away from the body. (A few modern day animals actually have skin that is rather tough for a predator to break through.) Maybe Sharptooth knew how to break through the tough skin of a longneck, and simply did that unknown method to cause the huge wound.  And perhaps whatever sharptooth bit onto Bron's leg didn't know the method.  What do you think? :)

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How severely injured Pat managed to catch up with the kids who had run at the appearance of the sharptooth (whether upon his order or not, they did leave him behind after all) is hard to explain.

Let's just say those with a good heart can ignore even the greatest pain just to save a life.  When the real battle came, his focus wasn't on saving the kids as much, and the pain returned once he put wieght onto the injured leg.

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Harder to explain is the strong backbone Shorty must have considering that a sharptooth treading upon him will slip rather than crushing him.

Well, I have indeed explained how Cera did ram the other foot, forcing the sharptooth to balance on one foot, the one that Shorty pushed against to make the sharptooth trip.  Of course, with the concept that there is still a certian amount of weight for him to handle, it indeed is diffucult to figure out how it logically worked, if at all.

As for the Chomper & Littlefoot friendship debate, I'll get to that in the morning.

See ya later. :^.^:
Title: what would you like to see in a LBT sequel?
Post by: Petrie. on June 21, 2006, 08:58:25 AM
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Maybe Sharptooth knew how to break through the tough skin of a longneck, and simply did that unknown method to cause the huge wound. And perhaps whatever sharptooth bit onto Bron's leg didn't know the method. What do you think?

This caught my eye....I'm not sure of the method so much as the location.  Same applies to animals these days...go for the heart or the throat...and they're sure to die.  A leg wound might immobolize the creature, but it sure wouldn't be an immediate kill.  That's probably why LF's mom took the blow.