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Bruton the Iguanodon

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OK, but the other thing I said in my previous post, no one's really talked about that.


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Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon,Feb 21 2012 on  02:43 PM
But yet no one's answered this: Why can't Spike be the same age as the rest?!
Because the creators decided that he should be younger. Simple as that.


Bruton the Iguanodon

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Why? Is anyone happy with this decision? Cause in case you haven't noticed, I'm not!  :anger

(And neither does Kor)

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I noticed that. I guessed they did that since Spike may not have been able to keep up with the large Littlefoot and Cera, and was to big to ride on one of their backs like Ducky and Petrie could do, so they sorta did a poof he's their size. Though they should have come up with a better solution. Maybe something like finding him sorta like Ducky found Littlefoot, and they found Petrie.


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Yet you two are just two people. The company wouldn't care if only a small handful of people were upset with the decision. Heck I don't think they'd care if the majority hated the decision. As long as the movie made money, that's all that mattered to them.

It was a decision by the company to have Spike be younger. Nothing more complex than that. If you don't agree with the decision, fine. But there's no reason to get upset over it. The movie was done over 20 years ago. No amount of complaints from you or anyone is going to change anything about the movie.


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But why make him younger if he's gonna be as big as Littlefoot and Cera in the next scene?

Has anyone even read my previous posts and noticed how painful it is for me to except the fact that while he is still that size, he might be much younger then the rest of the gang? Do you realize how it ruined a perfect image of 5 friends all around the same age? Do you realize how easy this would have been to solve?

Do you see why I'm upset?!


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Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon,Feb 21 2012 on  11:57 PM

Do you see why I'm upset?!
No, no we don't.


Bruton the Iguanodon

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Well then I must be lame at doing so, cause I've said everything here in this topic about how I feel about it and such, and I don't know what else to say.


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Bruton-you're obsessing over something that does not matter


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But why make him younger if he's gonna be as big as Littlefoot and Cera in the next scene?
Why on earth do you think that we know?
We can (and have) come up with theories, but we are not some omniscent mindreaders or were ourselves part of the production team. Bruton, you often pick out questions which nobody but the makers of LBT could answer and which even they might answer with the "just because" kind of answer and then expect absolute and plain logical answers which probably don't exist for this type of of questions.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with asking these questions.
But pushing it on and asking them over and over and over and over and over again after it has been established that nobody does have such an answer can get kind of on peoples' nerves I'm afraid.


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Have I missed something or where is written that he is younger?  In my opinion this is only some kind of laziness. It is more comfortable inside the egg then outside and so he doesn't break the shell until Ducky does it.


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Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon,Feb 21 2012 on  11:57 PM
Has anyone even read my previous posts and noticed how painful it is for me to except the fact that while he is still that size, he might be much younger then the rest of the gang? Do you realize how it ruined a perfect image of 5 friends all around the same age? Do you realize how easy this would have been to solve?
Yes we have. That will not change our answers. Do you honestly think that seeing how upset you are will somehow coax a logical, 100% true answer from us about why Spike is younger? Do you think it will somehow change the movie to fit in with the way you'd like it? Sorry but it will not.

We have given the best answers we can to you. None of us were on the team creating LBT. Heck I was just a baby when the production was taking place. None of us have any insightful knowledge on the decision-making for the original movie. Constantly asking us is not going to produce any better answers than what we already provided for you.


Bruton the Iguanodon

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Well, what do you think about him being younger then the rest? Do you like it or not? I sure don't!  <_<


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I have no problem with it at all. We don't know how much time passed after the hatching of the others anyway. Chomper's being a lot younger than the others (in addition to the minor inconvenience of his being a sharptooth ;)) was not a problem either.


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"Well, what do you think about him being younger then the rest? Do you like it or not? I sure don't!"

One thing to consider about a group is that somebody always has to be the youngest. Would you be equally, more so, or perhaps less displeased if Littlefoot was the youngest? Having a youngest member is unavoidable, even with twins.

"I have no problem with it at all. We don't know how much time passed after the hatching of the others anyway. Chomper's being a lot younger than the others (in addition to the minor inconvenience of his being a sharptooth) was not a problem either."

Chomper by species is naturally the most threatening character, so be making him so young, they dull down his image as a meat eater with cuteness. Look at the InuYasha anime. Fox demons in anime were usually fearsome- looking creatures like so: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2365/197516..._d2c775d1f0.jpg. So in that show, to make him more likable with the image built up of his kind, the writers made him very young and cute: http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2011...b/b5/Shippo.jpg.

When trying to entertain kids or even young adults, writers off dull down built up images of things to make them more likable, more sympathetic, more relatable, and more comfortable with. “Hm, we want a sharptooth to be in their group, but mostly the viewers have seen fierce ones trying to eat them!” “Ah, I know! Let’s make a kid for them, and we’ll amplify his lack of ferocity by making him cute by him being the youngest of them all, basically the innocence of the group.” If he was the oldest, I can pretty much guarantee that the episodes would be rather different than they are now. It isn't to me so much that there is no problem with it, but rather that the show would not be as we know it today. It's the same with Spike. If he was not the oldest, in theory, he would not have become part of the GoF, as he was found due to his hatching, and his discovery had factors from all four of the others. So if even one member of the GoF was younger than him, we might not even have a Spike. So I have no problem with an age that justifies one's existence.


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Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon,Feb 22 2012 on  11:09 AM
Well, what do you think about him being younger then the rest? Do you like it or not? I sure don't!  <_<
I don't mind it. I don't really think positively or negatively about it. I'm neutral on the stance. I don't think it really effects the movie that much, having him be younger. Him being the same age or older also wouldn't really effect the movie by much, I don't think.


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I guess I didn't really make this clear, but it's not him being the youngest that I mind. I'm fine with that. It's him being so much younger then the rest that i don't like.

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We never saw this period for Spike though who didn't live through whatever time may have elapsed between Littlefoot's hatching and his first talking in the original movie.


And that time period could have been as much as 6 years. So can you see why I'm upset? I mean, if there were four 17 year olds who were all best friends with a 7 year old...don'tcha think that would seem kinda weird? Cause that's what it feels like here.  <_<


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Quote from: Bruton the Iguanodon,Feb 22 2012 on  02:27 PM
I mean, if there were four 17 year olds who were all best friends with a 7 year old...don'tcha think that would seem kinda weird? Cause that's what it feels like here.  <_<
No, not really. If they were treating the 7 year old like a best bud and not a threat to the 7 year old, I see no problem with that picture.


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So it's officially established that this is indeed what the pictures is? Four older dinosaurs and a much younger one, similar to the scenario I wrote?  :unsure:


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Another factor you must include is that dinosaurs age differently than humans. Not all lifespans are the same. For instance, a dog reaches full adulthood by age 1 or 2. Humans? It's said to be at around 21. That's a huge difference. It's not certain what dinosaur lifespans were like, I don't think, but I would reckon it's faster than our own.


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We are clueless as to how much time passed between the hatching scene of Littlefoot and the first talking scene of his. Obviously Spike is younger than the others, but we don't know (and cannot know) exactly how much younger.