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The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: Jrd89 on March 22, 2010, 04:21:58 PM

Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Jrd89 on March 22, 2010, 04:21:58 PM
Be proud that you and I are proud LBT fans, because the next generation of children got this:

There is a cartoon I found on PBS called "Dinosaur Train" If you ask me, it's really dumb.

I found out about this show this morning. I kicked myself in the teeth because it stars a family of Pteranodons. "I had this middle- far future idea of making a comic strip or even a cartoon series starring Pteranodons. Beautiful ones (like Pterano),and cute ones like Petrie.

When I saw this I said AWWWWWGHHHHH! SOMEONE BEAT ME TO IT!  :(

MAJOR MAJOR DOWNER.

This show I think is very dumb. The Pteranodons are all one solid color (not multi-colored with beautiful neck rings).

The show took one step wayy too far with this clip: they talk about poop, yes. I kid you not. Pooping. How sick can you get. and it's a little kids show, too. This belongs on "Adult Swim" (late night cartoon network)

This is what the next generation of kids got stuck with. Pteranodons talking about pooping. super sick.

They fail to pronounce Pteranodon right. They pronounce the "a" as the short sound, like "apple". The RIGHT way to pronounce the "a" is with the short o sound, like the o's in "octagon"

God bless LBT. I'm glad that our generation got this beautiful, funny, emotional, and educational series of dinosaur movies.

Here's that sick clip from "Dinosaur Train".   Boy! Where's Petrie and Pterano when you Need them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW39BWeqCiI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW39BWeqCiI)
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Mumbling on March 22, 2010, 04:35:20 PM
lol that's really silly.

However kids are growing up in some pretty weird times these days, wonder what'll become of them.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 22, 2010, 04:52:47 PM
I watched the whole thing with my mouth wide open.  I gotta say, the ending song was funny, especially rhyming with feces. :lol But gee, I bet they get sued over this.  It would make a great addition to Adult Swim if they'd make the characters a little more ridiculous.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 22, 2010, 05:05:37 PM
I've seen some of Dinosaur Train and while I don't like it I do think the show is really cute. I don't think it's a disgrace, personally. It's just another kids' show. This one seems obviously geared towards very young kids, like preschool or something. I wouldn't say the show is as bad as some others out there. But as I've said, this show is made for really young kids, so I don't think it's very logical to truly hate the show. Don't like it, just don't watch it.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Ptyra on March 22, 2010, 05:46:59 PM
I'm not even gonna bother looking XD

It's a completely different story from LBT and a completely different company too. So there's no need for it to be a disgrace to LBT.

If anything, it's a disgrace to PBS cartoons. Just looking at that makes me with kids would watch the good ol' PBS...Arthur, Sagwa, Dragon Tales, Cyber Chase (<3 to all of those!).

And you can still do a story about a family of Pteranodons :) . Just how many stories are there about apatosarus protagonists out there? It's do-able.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Saft on March 22, 2010, 06:35:35 PM
Oh I watched....what a waste of time.  
Whilst it may be for very young children and there are far worse children television programmes out there (In the Night Garden for example) it's not learning.  

Yet, it makes me grateful that I was not born in this era.  

Atleast we had some good shows.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Daddytops2009 on March 22, 2010, 06:48:48 PM
I haven't heard about that before.

I read it was made by the Jim Henson Company.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on March 22, 2010, 09:12:57 PM
I gotta admit, I actually cracked a smile at this. It's so stupid and ridiculous that I couldn't help but smile XD! Now I know what to watch when I'm in a bad mood hahaha!!

In all honesty though, I feel bad for children of today. While we definately had crap movies and shows as kids, we also had a fair share of good entertainment. These days kids have pretty much nothing but crap. When I see stuff like this, it makes me realize just how happy I am to be a 90's child.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 22, 2010, 09:28:09 PM
I think it's because people in general have gotten more strict on keeping cartoons in their version of what is "kid-appropriate". Interestingly enough, years ago, cartoons were more intended for adults than for kids (such as Betty Boop and the old Loony Tunes cartoons), from what I understand.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Duckyfan on March 22, 2010, 10:44:25 PM
that is really stupid. poop seriously, they make a show about dinosaurs and they talk about poop? another thing, I really don't like that animation
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on March 22, 2010, 10:57:44 PM
Not to mention that they also talk about EATING poop too! Seriously, what the hell?!
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on March 22, 2010, 11:23:50 PM
Comment time: This was so ridiculously stupid that I think my I.Q. dropped to that of a Yellowbelly :crazy.  I will admit that I laughed my arse off at the stupidity of the content, but that's it.  It was so brain-shattering it's funny.  I still can't believe anybody created a TV episode for children that talked about crapping :blink:.  

It was pretty funny though how the dinosaurs talked about how they crap anywhere at any time, and yet at the end of the clip, the flyer goes down the train aisle to go sit on the throne :lol.  Talk about contradictory statements and actions.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 22, 2010, 11:27:17 PM
I'm not sure how common it is with other species, but eating poo, as disgusting as it sounds, is not unheard of in the natural world. Koala babies do it, for instance, to get antibodies from the mother to help them eat the eucalyptus leaves. I can't remember why, but apparently sometimes dogs do it. It might be gross for us, but for some species, it's an important survival strategy/skill.

I think the poo eating thing establishes how different the dinosaurs are from humans. The only downside I can see with it is that children might get the wrong idea and try it themselves. If that happens, that poo eating episode will likely get banned or at least heavily modified.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Kor on March 22, 2010, 11:45:58 PM
Seems to be aimed at very young kids.  The topic is something that I'm sure has been covered in what Libraries call e books.  It seems a silly show, but that isn't bad.    Not exactly to my taste, but I can likely enjoy clips or bits of it once in a while.  Never heard of the show before.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: JitteryDragon on March 23, 2010, 12:11:59 AM
Wow, what an odd find. This is quite weird for a kids show, but some of the episodes are actually quite decent. The characters (excepting those ugly ugly Pterodons) are nice and I like the colours and backgrounds... but who am I to judge a kids show as an adult...

This was produced by the Jim Henson company, by the way. Not quite what i expected from those guys... but it is what they do, make kids shows.

I do feel sorry for modern children having to put up with subpar shows just because of modern parental ideals of what is right and wrong. Oh noes we can't have violence and action packed adventures but we can have good old toilet humour... yay <_<

We had stuff like Ren and Stimpy back when I was a kid and I turned out fine (then again I wasn't in front of the TV every freakin hour). I'll tell you what though, the world needs more dinosaur themed shows for kids... and dragons, too. They love that sort of stuff. However, until then, I'll just go back to watching the WotWots <_<

I know exactly what I'll be using in my Youtube videos next, though... cheers for this find. ;)
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Kor on March 23, 2010, 12:14:49 AM
Found a video from dinosaur train where they sing the alphabet using diff dino names.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1O_pZClyrc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1O_pZClyrc)
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on March 23, 2010, 01:36:52 AM
Quote from: JitteryDragon,Mar 22 2010 on  11:11 PM

I know exactly what I'll be using in my Youtube videos next, though... cheers for this find. ;)
Can I make a suggestion, Jitterydragon? You should do a video with the gang's responses to this. I can just imagine the looks on their faces from seeing this, especially Cera's  :lol
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Mumbling on March 23, 2010, 01:55:51 AM
Quote from: Animeboye,Mar 23 2010 on  06:36 AM
Quote from: JitteryDragon,Mar 22 2010 on  11:11 PM

I know exactly what I'll be using in my Youtube videos next, though... cheers for this find. ;)
Can I make a suggestion, Jitterydragon? You should do a video with the gang's responses to this. I can just imagine the looks on their faces from seeing this, especially Cera's  :lol
I think Jittery can think of jokes himself.

Believe me, this kids show is not too bad at all. There are so many deformed humans kids shows out there that bother me a lot more. This one is kind of cute and it kind of wants to teach kids something, at least.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on March 23, 2010, 02:10:56 AM
Geez, it was just a suggestion. Lay off.

Second of all, did I say I hate this show? No. I think it's stupid, yes, but I don't hate it. Thinking it's stupid and hating it are two different things. I think the Harold and Kumar movies are stupid but I like those. All I did was suggest a video idea to Jittery that I thought would be funny. Is that so wrong?
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Jrd89 on March 23, 2010, 03:24:41 AM
Animeboye- I do like your suggestion.

What WOULD Littlefoot and the gang say about this. and Petrie, too? (i'm not even going to mention Pterano.)

Could you even begin to THINK of what it would be like if PETRIE sang about poop-- NO!- because it would never even happen. There were no "bathroom" jokes in any of the 13 movies. It was all clean, funny humor.

I do agree that the pteranodons are very ugly looking in "Dinosaur Train"

Petrie is the cutest and cuddliest ever, Pterano is also very very beautiful looking

-Pteranodons singing about poop.....  :x  ughhhh.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Jrd89 on March 23, 2010, 03:27:37 AM
I also wonder how many little kids had "clean pants" after watching that episode, hmmm?

 <_<
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 23, 2010, 08:47:39 AM
Quote from: Mumbling,Mar 23 2010 on  01:55 AM
I think Jittery can think of jokes himself.
That may be and I don't doubt JD could, but I don't think there's anything wrong with offering suggestions, even if those suggestions don't get used. Offering suggestions isn't an insult.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Kor on March 23, 2010, 09:30:43 AM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Mar 22 2010 on  08:28 PM
I think it's because people in general have gotten more strict on keeping cartoons in their version of what is "kid-appropriate". Interestingly enough, years ago, cartoons were more intended for adults than for kids (such as Betty Boop and the old Loony Tunes cartoons), from what I understand.
Yes, from what I know when you went to see a movie there would not just be a movie and trailers, there would also be a cartoon (like bugs bunny, woody woodpecker droopy, tex avery, ect), a comedy short (like the 3 stooges, laurel and hardy, our gang/little rascals) and a cliffhanger chapter then the movie itself.  No idea when the trailers would be shown during that.  

I got some experience of that as a kid/young teen in the 80's when the local PBS had on either Saturday or Sunday afternoons a program called Matinee at the bijou.  

I would surmise then cartoons were aimed at adults since those were the main ones who went to see movies.  Just look at some of the really old cartoons from the 30-50's.  I would also surmise that the current culture of seeing cartoons are just for kids likely started around when the studios started showing their theatrical cartoons on tv and likely when saturday morning cartoons started being shows. I'd guess in the 50's or 60's maybe.  Unlike in some places like Japan where they can see cartoons can be for kids, teens, adults, or the whole family & is just another way to tell a story.

the pbs site has shorts of the dinotrain show with 2 whole episodes.  It seems instead of lumping the different dinos who lived in different time periods together in 1 time period the train goes through a time tunnel sort of thing to other time periods.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on March 23, 2010, 10:41:49 AM
Want the Gang's reactions?  Here's my idea:

Littlefoot: "Oh my goodness!  This is the most illogical, absurd, intelligence-quotient disintegrating mockery of the dinosaur race that was created by the supposedly most intellectual life forms that ever existed!"

Ducky: "I do not like this, oh no no no!  This is an embarrassment to dinosaurs everywhere, yes it is!"

Petrie: "Me and Ducky getting farted on by Yellowbelly bad enough, but this even worser!  Me get headache just watching!"

Spike: "DUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHH!"

Cera: "You guys are all being too nice!  These *censored* poor excuses of human intelligence *censored* made us look like a bunch of *censored* living breathing sacks of s***!"

Others: :blink:

Cera: "Yeah, guys!  S*** is the same thing as poop!  I can't believe those *insert sailor's level slew of profanities and vulgarities*!"

Littlefoot: "Please excuse Cera's language.  Her father let her watch rated R shows as a kid in the 90s."

 :lol
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Ptyra on March 23, 2010, 05:30:38 PM
Never mind what the Gang would say about it, I see more Youtube Poop material...
Wait...


OH, THE IRONY XD !
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Paradise Bird on March 23, 2010, 06:11:41 PM
That person who made those VIDS there get sued. Or I will give him AIDS lol
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 23, 2010, 06:22:06 PM
Why should they be sued? And why do they deserve a terminal illness like AIDS?
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on March 24, 2010, 12:29:29 PM
My question is WHO should be sued? The guy who posted the video or the people that did the episode?

And saying someone deserves AIDS? Dude, that's just not cool.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: 2007excalibur2007 on March 24, 2010, 01:02:08 PM
Quote from: Paradise Bird,Mar 24 2010 on  05:11 AM
That person who made those VIDS there get sued. Or I will give him AIDS lol
Interesting... they spell alike. :p
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: WeirdRaptor on March 24, 2010, 03:24:40 PM
The stuff I grew up with:

Transformers
Smurfs
Both Sonic cartoons
Batmat The Animated Series
Gargoyles
Talespin

And today's are stuck with this. I weep for the future.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Kor on March 24, 2010, 09:02:17 PM
I have heard some folks online, I think including the nostalgia critic and maybe chick, have said today's cartoons, shows and movies are worst then the ones before.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: F-14 Ace on March 25, 2010, 01:17:32 PM
Oh,  ummm,   okey....  That was... freaky.  Seriously, what a worthless show!  I mean, PBS has really REALLY gone down hill.  They used to have good shows on there.  What ever happened to Sesame Street?   <_<  
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on March 25, 2010, 03:04:31 PM
Quote from: F-14 Ace,Mar 25 2010 on  12:17 PM
Oh,  ummm,   okey....  That was... freaky.  Seriously, what a worthless show!  I mean, PBS has really REALLY gone down hill.  They used to have good shows on there.  What ever happened to Sesame Street?   <_<
Or The Magic School Bus?  What about Arthur?  Or even Reading Rainbow?

I feel bad our kids are stuck with this dreck.  If this is what educational TV is comin' down to, I'll just let my kids watch SpongeBob and Jackass.  At least they'll be entertained instead of dumbed down :p.

BTW, what kid out there has no idea that we all do our business :huh:?  Why educate kids on somethin' they can figure out for themselves?
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: NeoGenesis005 on March 25, 2010, 05:00:17 PM
I've seen this by commerical never really watched it but I'm sure its not totally disgraceful its just doesn't suit your taste thats all
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: TheNumberOneShmuck on March 30, 2010, 09:19:58 AM
Wow...

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...wow...

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......WOW...

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...That was actually really damn funny. They rhymed "feces". They even rhymed "scat"! Never expected that in a children's show, what with scat seemingly tied irreversibly to the fetish these days.

Seriously. Hysterical.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on June 27, 2010, 12:57:32 AM
To bump up an old topic, I watched a few clips from this show recently. I have to admit, while the show itself looks like a really stupid premise, the characters are actually kinda cute. I was annoyed by the little T-Rex for a bit but he soon started to grow on me. He'll never be as cute or as cool as Chomper of course but he seems like an alright character. If I ever have a nephew or niece(or even if I have one now), I would definitely watch this with them.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Petrie157578641 on June 27, 2010, 04:06:06 PM
Just watched this... terrible!
During watching it I tried to remember myself at that age 3,4,5 years old and...I never thought about what this cartoon is teaching, that episode is completely pointless!!!!!Huge mountain of poops, dinosaurs talking and SINGING  about it almost killed me, that's really dumb and I think shouldn't be allowed, what if kids start singing this song in front of many people??Disgusting...That's really a disgrace to those who made LBT, which is the greatest dinosaur movies and getting forgotten now....

THIS should be Used by Jittery in his ytPOOPS, not wonderful LBT
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Mumbling on June 27, 2010, 04:46:09 PM
Quote from: Petrie157578641,Jun 27 2010 on  10:06 PM
Just watched this... terrible!
During watching it I tried to remember myself at that age 3,4,5 years old and...I never thought about what this cartoon is teaching, that episode is completely pointless!!!!!Huge mountain of poops, dinosaurs talking and SINGING  about it almost killed me, that's really dumb and I think shouldn't be allowed, what if kids start singing this song in front of many people??Disgusting...That's really a disgrace to those who made LBT, which is the greatest dinosaur movies and getting forgotten now....

THIS should be Used by Jittery in his ytPOOPS, not wonderful LBT
He actually did... His Youtube poops aren't that bad ;) You should allow yourself to laugh at things you love every once in a while :D
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on June 27, 2010, 04:47:21 PM
How is that clip a disgrace to LBT though? That has nothing to do with LBT.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Petrie157578641 on June 27, 2010, 04:59:33 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Jun 27 2010 on  03:47 PM
How is that clip a disgrace to LBT though? That has nothing to do with LBT.
Yeah but they both are about dinosaurs and there aren't really much cartoons about them
so if like remembering cartoons about dinosaurs cartoons mmm...
"there was The Land Before time filled with marvelous adventures, Dink the Little dinosaur, with discoveries of anchient dinosaur world and Dinosaur train, teaching kids different stuff including poops" ... that's how I imagine it
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on June 27, 2010, 05:08:03 PM
It doesn't matter if they are both about dinosaurs. The two dinosaur cartoons, Dinosaur Train and Land Before Time, have nothing in common and are done by completely different companies. Dinosaur Train is not a disgrace to Land Before Time as it has nothing to do with Land Before Time to begin with. Now if it were part of Land Before Time, then yes it's possible to say it's a disgrace to Land Before Time. But because they are two completely different things, it makes no sense to say Dinosaur Train disgraces Land Before Time. That would be like saying Twilight is a disgrace to Dracula. While both cover the same topics, they are completely different stories that have nothing to do with one another.

I'm not saying Dinosaur Train isn't a silly show. I haven't seen much of it so I can't say for myself if it is or isn't. I'm just saying that I think it's unfair to say Dinosaur Train is a disgrace to LBT when it's something completely different.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on June 27, 2010, 07:34:05 PM
Here's what I don't get: Why is it such a big deal that Dinosaur Train has an episode talking about poop yet just about every kids movie released in the last ten years or so has poop jokes in them and people are just fine with that? Why can movies like Alvin and the Chipmunks or Marmaduke make "doody" references and have people be okay with that but when Dinosaur Train has an episode talking about poop, all of a sudden it's "OMG SO AWFUL!!!!!11111" Seems to me like a case of double standards.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: General Grievous on June 27, 2010, 08:25:26 PM
Quote from: Animeboye,Jun 27 2010 on  06:34 PM
Here's what I don't get: Why is it such a big deal that Dinosaur Train has an episode talking about poop yet just about every kids movie released in the last ten years or so has poop jokes in them and people are just fine with that? Why can movies like Alvin and the Chipmunks or Marmaduke make "doody" references and have people be okay with that but when Dinosaur Train has an episode talking about poop, all of a sudden it's "OMG SO AWFUL!!!!!11111" Seems to me like a case of double standards.
It's not a double standard.  Making jokes about crap (which I really don't find funny) on a show and actually showing something taking a crap are two different things.  The latter is considerably more obscene and has no place in a kids show.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on June 27, 2010, 08:57:58 PM
So talking about crap is okay as long as it's intended to be a joke? That makes no sense.

Look, I'm not trying to defend the episode. It is a rather pointless episode. What irks me about this is just how childish some people are acting about it. They talked about poop. Big deal. Get over it. There are much worse things kids could be watching, like Dinosaur Adventure. Can't make it through ten seconds of DA without wanting to throw up. Dinosaur Train at least has slightly decent animation. Not great, but sort of decent.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Stitch on June 28, 2010, 01:23:15 AM
I must admit that I have caught a few episodes of Dinosaur Train, and it seems that the show really has the potential to be a great one.  It's very cute, in my opinion, and the characters seem to have been embraced by the public, based on all the press the show has generated.

I happened to notice, though, that during the episode where Buddy (the t-rex) found out what species he was, they seemed to dance around the issue of his biological parents.  It was explicitly mentioned that the Pteranadon family found his egg and brought it back to their nest to see what would hatch, but they didn't say anything about the fate of the egg's parents, or even where it was found.  They probably wanted to avoid going down that road because of the show's target audience.  The producers probably won't ever address the issue, but if they did, it would make for a very interesting episode, especially if the parents are alive.

I also happened to notice that they did have a "holiday" episode where the dinos decorated a tree and celebrated the winter solstace (much like The Bright Circle Celebration was like a human thanksgiving).  This was probably done so that they could celebrate the season without having to explain why the dinosaurs were participating in a modern human activity.

In my opinion, this show will probably go on to be the next Dragon Tales or Reading Rainbow, based on it's popularity.  It seems to be one of those rare kids shows where older people can actually sit and watch it without going crazy.  Hopefully, Henson will continue to make more episodes beyond the original 40.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Kor on June 28, 2010, 10:36:08 AM
Considering it's target audience it does seem to be a pretty well written show, of the episodes I've seen.    And also written so some others of other ages can get some enjoyment from watching it.  A thing many who write for kids (or family stuff) forget, you can write and have it written in such a way that all ages can enjoy it, not just kids.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Amaranthine on June 28, 2010, 11:30:27 AM
I loled. xD

You know, why should poop be a hush, hush topic? Because it's gross? It's a way of purification and releasing waste.

I mean seriously, I was never taught this stuff as a kid and I read a book about it when I was much older. It's okay for kids to be curious about these things, so why not have a show explain it for them? There are even jobs out there that require you to look at feces. Archeologist sound familiar?

Personally, I think this is an okay kids show.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on September 30, 2010, 12:56:43 PM
Okay I just watched the "infamous" "Dinosaur Poop!" episode, and here's my verdict:

It's really not all that bad. Yes, poop is a prevalent topic in the episode, but it's not really all that bad. The episode itself is about visiting the brachiosaurus family. The entire episode isn't devoted specifically to producing waste, but it is talked about, but not in such detail that it's gross. The whole "eating poop" thing was just referring to the dung beetle, and it was simply stating a fact. And the piles of poop? That was just brachiosaurus waste, probably not much different than elephant dung.

I don't feel the episode should be criticized harshly just because they're talking about poop. It's not like it's something we are unfamiliar with. And the only poop we even see on screen is brachiosaurus poop and it doesn't look all that gross to me in this animation style.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on September 30, 2010, 01:20:51 PM
Sadly, DarkHououmon, it's not just the episode that's been getting criticized. The whole show has been just for this one episode.

I have yet to hear anyone provide any real reasons as to why this is such a terrible show. All I've heard is, "Ohhh, it disgraces Land Before Time!!!!1111", "This show is t3h fail!!!111", and of course, "Ewww! Dinosaurs talking about poop! Nasty!!" Seriously, do you guys still giggle when someone says penis or vagina? This whole arguement is so stupid and pointless.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on September 30, 2010, 01:25:08 PM
I have been watching the series lately, starting from episode 1 and moving on up. I plan on hopefully doing some kind of review of it in the future. It's a really cute show and I feel people should give it a chance before judging it so quickly. I like many of the concepts presented in the show, one of my favorites being the Time Tunnels. Although unrealistic (time traveling basically) it does offer an excuse for the creators to have all these dinosaurs. The dinosaurs are placed in the right time periods, and if the main characters want to visit these dinos in different time periods, they just take the Dinosaur Train.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Campion1 on September 30, 2010, 09:23:39 PM
Listen guys.  Just show them LBT instead of this crap. We gotta continue the legacy, even if it's "old!"
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on September 30, 2010, 09:56:41 PM
Quote from: Campion1,Sep 30 2010 on  09:23 PM
Listen guys. Just show them LBT instead of this crap. We gotta continue the legacy, even if it's "old!"
Excuse me? If I want to show people Dinosaur Train, I will. It's not that bad of a show. I've watched multiple episodes and I still plan on watching the remaining episodes. It's cute and it's something I feel kids should watch if given the chance. I'm not saying LBT is bad, but remember it is not the only dinosaur franchise and I don't feel LBT should be "superior" to Dinosaur Train. Both should be treated equally.

I feel you are being unfair by telling people to not show this series to them (whoever them is, I assume kids). I don't feel you are giving the show a real chance. And even if you don't like it, who are you to tell people what to show their kids? It's not like Dinosaur Train is some horror movie. It's made for kids, teaches some good lessons and morals, etc.

Why do you think Dinosaur Train is "crap"? Can you give a good reason? And don't say "they talk about poop it's gross!" or "it's a disgrace to LBT!". If you are going to judge this show harshly, do so by its own merits, not through comparison or by the clip provided at the start of this topic. Judging this show just by that episode is unfair.

I apologize if I offended anyone.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Campion1 on September 30, 2010, 10:31:22 PM
I'm not even going to respond to such a hostile post, except by saying I did watch more than just was linked in the first post. I did not like it, and the post was directed towards people who thought the same. Also,
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Who are you... Can you give a good reason?... And don't say... If you are going to judge this show harshly, do so by...
Please don't talk down to me. It doesn't get you anywhere.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on September 30, 2010, 10:44:32 PM
I don't feel I was being hostile. I just simply wanted you to give the show a fair judgment. If you had said something like "I feel LBT is better", that would have been fine. But what bothered me about your post is not only the harsh judgment you gave Dinosaur Train without providing any reason, but you pretty much telling people not to show Dinosaur Train to others and instead show LBT. I felt that was unfair.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on September 30, 2010, 11:10:47 PM
Quote from: Campion1,Sep 30 2010 on  08:23 PM
Listen guys.  Just show them LBT instead of this crap. We gotta continue the legacy, even if it's "old!"
Oh, for God's sake... and who says kids can't enjoy both?
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Campion1 on September 30, 2010, 11:11:17 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Sep 30 2010 on  09:44 PM
But what bothered me about your post is not only the harsh judgment you gave Dinosaur Train without providing any reason, but you pretty much telling people not to show Dinosaur Train to others and instead show LBT. I felt that was unfair.
It isn't wrong of you to ask me to provide reasons for not liking it. But I haven't watch the show in a long time... I'm not digging again to rewatch it. The main point is I felt negative about the show compared to other shows that PBS aired. The "people" I directed that comment to was everyone in the thread who didn't like the show, and didn't want other kids watching it. As in uncle of a lot of children (New and growing) I tend to change the channel to something more substantial for them to watch as compared to a lot of other stuff TV airs. I recommended them showing LBT compared to this because well... This is an LBT forum after all. I think all kids should watch LBT at some point anyway.

Personally, I think adding "I feel" before everything doesn't soften an matter-of-fact attitude. You may not have thought you were "being hostile" but your post was written in a very demeaning way. Of course that would make me feel a little off, but that can't determine an entire mindset.

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and who says kids can't enjoy both?
No one, but we can control what our kids watch. That is the point. I would rather have my kids watch something like "Martha speaks" while others would have their kids watch "Sid the Science kid" (Which I despise)
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on September 30, 2010, 11:27:57 PM
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The "people" I directed that comment to was everyone in the thread who didn't like the show, and didn't want other kids watching it

Which is insanely asinine in and of itself. What gives you guys the right to dictate what kids can watch and can't watch? Especially when they're not YOUR kids. I don't like most Dreamworks movies, so should I make it so that kids can't watch them?


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As in uncle of a lot of children (New and growing) I tend to change the channel to something more substantial for them to watch as compared to a lot of other stuff TV airs.

Well guess what? I'm an uncle too and I would gladly watch this show with my niece if she ever wanted to watch it. And what exactly do you consider more "substantial"?


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I recommended them showing LBT compared to this because well... This is an LBT forum after all.

...That makes no sense.

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I think all kids should watch LBT at some point anyway.

LISTEN!! Not all kids are going to like LBT!! What if a kid likes Dinosaur Train better? You gonna tell them they're wrong for thinking it's better?


I plan on showing LBT to my niece once she's older(maybe about three or four), but guess what? I'm also going to show her Dinosaur Train. Don't like it? Too bad. It's my niece, not yours.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: NeptuneNavigator2001 on September 30, 2010, 11:42:31 PM
If I may jump on this topic...

I happen to agree with Animeboye on this one.  I do believe what we've got here is a classic case of misinterpretation.  Emotionless text is the poorest form of communication, due to the fact that emotions cannot be wholly discerned within a mere paragraph or two.  It takes vocal communication at least, or even better, a real-life encounter, to determine the true emotions and "attitudes" of others.  Which causes me to raise the question: Campion1, what words exactly do you suppose that DarkHououmon used to be "hostile" towards you?  Just because she used a few isolated words here and there to describe what is, in her mind, the equivalent of a fair judgment?  If that's true hostility, then I dread to read any more.  However, I must disagree with your assessment of her character from a mere few posts.  At the very least, a few exclamation points here and there could have shown some hostility, but a few opinionated words here and there does not necessarily constitute a hostile attitude.  Any idea of hostility that could conceivably be formed, without plausible evidence (exclamation points, threatening words, etc.) must surely be the result of the person reading the post, not the person writing it.  It is sadly common for people these days to hear a "voice" in their head, to attempt to determine what emotions are being displayed by a poster, but is that really, truly, the "voice" of the other person?  More often than not, it is not the case at all.  Therefore, it is the concoction of the reader.  Without getting to know the person in real life, or at least, without being able to hear the other person speak these same words, emotion cannot be fully established, and therefore a full assessment of a person's character or attitude, based upon said text alone, is a sad failure indeed.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Jrd89 on September 30, 2010, 11:44:55 PM
Guys!  Please settle down!

All I said was that I felt this episode was gross. Everyone has their own opinion.

And I started this thread several months ago.. not just now.

(I didn't intend to have 2 people fighting each other with a reply battle)

Please settledown. :(  I understand.. there are kids out there who like (or would like) Dinosaur train over LBT.

Do I enjoy watching dinosaur train? Yeah.

Do I love LBT more than dinosaur train?  Yes.

I was just talking about the "poop"episode.  The whole cartoon series is pretty good to watch  (considering that LBT is NOT on any of the t.v. channels I get anymore)

Yes.. none of the 13 movies or the t.v. series are on.....  I can't find any LBT on any channel I get anymore.  Which is a very very sad fact.  :( :(

But please stop fighting.  I'm sorry if my topic was too nasty or disturbing.

And my apologies to any dinosaur train fans here.  I just thought the "poop" episode specifically was gross.

Sorry.  :(
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Campion1 on September 30, 2010, 11:53:29 PM
I don't carry any personal hatred towards any of you, even though I might disagree with you guys.

Quote from: Animeboye,Sep 30 2010 on  10:27 PM
Which is insanely asinine in and of itself. What gives you guys the right to dictate what kids can watch and can't watch? Especially when they're not YOUR kids. I don't like most Dreamworks movies, so should I make it so that kids can't watch them?
Because we're raising them...? You're an uncle too, right? I mean, you've actually had to watch them for an entire week, take care of them, play with them, feed them, etc...
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Well guess what? I'm an uncle too and I would gladly watch this show with my niece if she ever wanted to watch it. And what exactly do you consider more "substantial"?
So you are. I'm sure there's some children's shows you would object to your niece watching?
Quote from: Animeboye,Sep 30 2010 on  10:27 PM
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I recommended them showing LBT compared to this because well... This is an LBT forum after all.

...That makes no sense.
It kinda would, considering we all joined this site for our love of LBT.
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LISTEN!! Not all kids are going to like LBT!! What if a kid likes Dinosaur Train better? You gonna tell them they're wrong for thinking it's better?
Children like just about anything.
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I plan on showing LBT to my niece once she's older(maybe about three or four), but guess what? I'm also going to show her Dinosaur Train. Don't like it? Too bad. It's my niece, not yours.
Well ok dude. It's your choice. I'm not out to get you and your opinion.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Campion1 on September 30, 2010, 11:57:08 PM
For personal and better reason I'm going to stop responding. This could go on forever, which is why I sometimes pick what I submit carefully.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on October 01, 2010, 12:00:08 AM
It wasn't my intention fight. I had hoped to try to avoid a fight by saying "I apologize if I offended anyone" in my initial post. I wasn't trying to attack anyone. I was just trying to explain why I felt Campion1's post was unfair. I did not mean hostility towards him, and I admit I am surprised that he thinks I was being hostile towards him.

Anyway I'm not really interested in fighting. So that's all I'll say for now.

Edit: I posted this without noticing Campion1's post. I apologize.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: LBTFan13 on October 01, 2010, 12:01:52 AM
I think this discussion is getting quite off topic. I would advise any more comments like the last few be taken to PM's to avoid a full out battle on the forum.

I've watched the clip and I do agree that it is quite a juvenile thing to put in a children show. However, I do have to agree with Campion1's comment that children will just about like anything. They pretty much laugh at everything, and unfortunately it's material like the one in the clip that they find the most funny. However, while the show is nothing compared to the shows most of us grew up with, it's not a terrible show. There are worse shows out there than this one. I agree, the characters are cute. They actually remind me a lot of the LBT characters.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on October 01, 2010, 12:05:56 AM
Personally I don't feel it was all that juvenile. I have seen the full episode and I feel they handled it well and maturely. Also, it wasn't done out of humor. They didn't do it simply to get a laugh. It was more educational. I don't see what's so bad about teaching kids about that stuff.

And to point out, Dinosaur Train is not the only children's series to have an episode devoted to "relieving oneself". Rugrats had some episodes like that too. Yes they were talking about peeing rather than pooping, still it's the same concept.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Jrd89 on October 01, 2010, 12:13:56 AM
I do agree. there are shows out there worse than dinosaur train. It's just that I, Jared the flyer-addicted guy, (who is 21, and who has dreams at night about talking or having fun with Rinkus or Petrie or Pterano) didn't mean to write something that would start a forum fight. :(

Once again, I'm sorry.  Please stop arguing and fighting. :(
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on October 01, 2010, 12:16:07 AM
I think the fight is over.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: LBTFan13 on October 01, 2010, 12:22:24 AM
I guess since I haven't seen the entire episode I can't really judge it. I think it was easier for Rugrats to get away with it was because all the characters were human babies and that was a natural part of growing up. I'm not saying that dinosaurs never did the same thing, but I guess people are surprised that in a show about dinosaurs, they mention something like that.

I don't know, but it doesn't really matter now. They did it, and we can't do anything about it. I'm glad the fighting has stopped.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: oogaboo on October 01, 2010, 07:48:05 PM
This is my face after finding it... :blink:  :huh:   That is a kids show? Where is Elmo? Why won't they teach kids their ABC's? I don't mind crazy stuff that is somewhat similar to Family Guy or Robot Chicken but this is just :crazy
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: 2007excalibur2007 on October 01, 2010, 07:53:14 PM
Quote from: oogaboo,Oct 2 2010 on  06:48 AM
Why won't they teach kids their ABC's?
There's an episode where they get to learn dinosaur ABC's.

...in the form of a song. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1O_pZClyrc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1O_pZClyrc)
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on October 01, 2010, 09:22:09 PM
You know what? I think kids movies today are an absolute disgrace!! I mean, all these fart and doody jokes and pop culture references. Why...kids could get the idea that farts are...funny. That's not funny!! That's disgusting!! Farts are not funny and totally not natural!

When I was a kid, I would watch LBT, Balto, Goofy Movie, American Tail. Good movies with good messages for kids! Not this...Alpha and Omega and Shrek BS we get nowadays. Shrek? Ha, it should be called "Dreck". Why would any kid like a movie about a smartass ogre? Shrek should be teaching kids their ABCs and 123s, not making them laugh! AAAAAAGGGUHGUGHGUGHGUGH!!!

Speaking of Alpha and Omega, it's a total disgrace to Balto! I mean, they're both about wolves so obviously they're very much alike! That's why it's such a disgrace! Kids should watch and like Balto, not Alpha and Omega. Why? 'Cause I said so! A kids movie about wolves needing to repopulate...how utterly vulgar!
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: DarkHououmon on October 01, 2010, 09:51:56 PM
...

Perhaps it is best for this topic to be closed.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Campion1 on October 01, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
I'll just make the comment that this show wasn't TERRIBLE. I mean I didn't like it, but the songs are actually pretty cool. I personally prefer the show Backyardigans  :p
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Animeboye on October 02, 2010, 01:41:05 PM
This is just an insanely childish topic and I agree with DarkHououmon that it needs to be closed. The way you guys are acting towards this show, you'd think its characters jumped out of your TV and beat up your mom.

I haven't seen anyone provide any real criticism for this show. I've just seen very infantile bashing towards a show that did nothing to deserve it. Don't like Dinosaur Train? Fine, but quite clearly, a lot of kids/parents DO like this show. From what I've heard, it's gotten very good reception, and besides, this show wouldn't have gone on for what, 40 episodes now, if it wasn't well liked.

Now of course there are kids shows/movies I don't like, but I can at least provide reasons as to why I don't like them. I can't stand most Dreamworks movies but that doesn't mean they stop making movies because one guy on the Internet doesn't like their work.

This topic needs to be closed. Simple as that. I think this is nothing more than flaming a show for no real reason whatsoever.
Title: This youtube video I found is a disgrace
Post by: Malte279 on October 02, 2010, 04:12:03 PM
It appears that upon request this topic has in fact been closed. It's a step which I personally am not particularly fond of. I really think people should be able to get a grip and learn to agree to disagree without disrespecting the opinions of others in doing so. I cannot really say anything on the series dinosaur train having not seen it so far (though I may watch it one of these days), but it does strike me as kind of odd that some people may on the one hand express their support for the free use of profanity in one thread while seeming to have kind of moral qualms about the mention of poop in a kid's show in another. I think there is kind of a double standard there. Personally I think it might be a good idea to reopen this thread in some days. Perhaps tempers will calm down to a level where an exchange of thoughts is possible without anyone ending up offending or being offended.