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A possible Third World War?

Chomper98

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I was just browsing the web and noticed how much Iran hates America, and how Russia and China are also against the US(no offense if anyone here lives in those countries), and have pledged that if America invades Iran to remove a future threat, then they will declare war on America, or something along those lines.

I also realised that if it happens, it would be very far worse then either World War I or II. Plus, Iran seems to just LOATHE America, when I don't recall us ever doing anything to that country. If we do attack her, it will be to get rid of a threat.  I'm not war-mongering or paranoid, I'm just stating that this feels eerily similar to the situation in World War I, all it takes is one action, and the world could be thrown into war. Hope this doesn't happen.  :unsure:


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You don't have to worry about that. Israel will take care of Iran if it becomes a threat.
That said, Iran hates us because we support Israel.
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Unlikely. If it would, the entire world as we know it would vanish :)


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Wars of the future are not likely to be fought along the lines of WW1 and WW2 with huge mass battles and most hopefully without the use of nuclear weapons. Thing is that the one who uses nuclear weapons first by doing so just ensures himself to be the second to die within hours. Between the largest nations war is a "no win situation" and here's to hope that the decisionmakers on both sides recognize that fact.
Conflicts between larger nations, if all diplomacy fails, may more likely be fought as "proxy wars" as has been the case in Corea and Vietnam for example without America, Russia and China officially declaring war on each other.
Throughout the last decade we have already seen a phenomena that is likely to become more common and which has been called "assymetric warfare". On the one hand you have countries with a huge arsenal of highly advanced weapons including unmanned drones while on the other hand there are local groups (with the combat not fought in the country with the big arsenal) which in spite of of worse equipment and usually much higher casualties can fight a war of attrition. The later works especially if the larger nation is perceived as an aggressor or occupying power.
Wars of the future are likely to be fought about rescources primarily (though for the official casus belli they may decide for something more socially acceptable). On the one hand this is oil of course (which has been an important factor in wars already), but probably more important is the prediction of fresh water running short in many densly populated regions of the world. Some scientists warn that if no way is found to supply these regions with sufficient fresh water the result may be a kind of migration of nations when millions of people are faced with the decision to either leave for regions with more water or die.
I'm afraid that there will be many wars in the decades to come, but these are likely to be very different from the kind of warfare that we link to WW1 or WW2 and more likely than not it is not going to be labelled WW3.


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Today we live in a highly efficient global system. The degree of sophistication and specialisation of the economy is so high today that making a single product, for example an iPad, involves resources and facilities scattered literally all over the world. This minimizes the cost of the product, but if only a single facility fails, the product cannot be made. For example, look up the effects the recent flood in Thailand has had on hard drive prices, because a large fraction of the world's motors that move the disk plates have been produced in a few factories in Thailand. The shortage of a component that is as simple as an electric motor has caused a drastic rise in the price of hard drives.

Such a efficient and brittle system has little tolerance for disturbances, just as only a slight change in the environment can bring a highly specialised species to extinction. The inverse relationship between efficiency and resilience is the reason why the highly specialised cheetahs are doing badly compared with the more versatile lions in todays human-influenced environment, and why the highly versatile rats are thriving and are overcoming everything we're throwing at them.

All the world's major powers have rational governments today, and because they are parts of that brittle global system they will avoid disturbing it. That's why a war between major powers is not an option today. A minor skirmish, like an air raid against Iran's nuclear facilities, is still an option of course.

This all can change. The global system, as it is today, depends on lots of cheap oil to keep its far-flung components physicaly connected. Global crude oil production has been on a plateau since 2005.  Despite an unprecedently long period of high prices (above 50$ a barrel), crude oil production is stagnating. What is growing are unconventional sources, like deep water oil and shale oil, which are more expensive to extract and need continuing high prices to remain profitable.

At a certain point, oil prices will become so high or production will become so low that global trade will become too expensive, and the global system will fragment into continental systems, which can be maintained more easily.

At this point, a war between major powers becomes a possibility, because the major powers no longer depend on each other. But still, only a possibility, because the fragmentation of the global system will be inevitably accompanied by an economic depression, and a rational leadership would avoid fighting a costly war in such conditions, and wait for technological progress to facilitate an economic rebound, and then try to re-establish a global system. Of course, progress is not guaranteed to materialise, or to materialise in the span of decades or centuries. Rapid technological progress has been more of an exception than rule in history.

And if progress does not occur, then we can expect continental economic systems to fragment into even smaller and simpler ones, whether they remain politicaly united or not.

Unfortunately, if a major power acquires an irrational leadership, then all bets are off.


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In my eyes, there is already a world war going on with a different enemy through the internet.

At this point, I'm not worried about one outside of it.


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Hmmm, yah, you guys are all right, although I guess the whole war on terror like Iraq, Afghanistan and other middle eastern countries could be considered a proxy third world war, and yeah, I just realized that nothing along the lines of World War II or World War I are even remotley likely unless some idiot becomes leader of one of them.