Cliches that you are tired of..

Animeboye · **Reply #100 on:** March 22, 2010, 01:51:11 AM

^ OMG, you'ze a virgin? LOOZER!!!

But in all seriousness, I agree 100% with you, Cancerian Tiger. Sex scenes in horror films contribute nothing to the overall plot and are simply shameless fanservice. I mean come on! I wanna watch a horror, not a porno!

DarkHououmon · **Reply #101 on:** March 23, 2010, 09:54:09 AM

Quote from: brekclub85,Mar 18 2010 on 02:04 AM

The fact that anti-sexism(which granted is an important thing, I hate sexists) stories always go like this: boys are being sexist to girls. Never the other way around. Granted, I'm aware that in real life this is the majority case, but girls are still capable of doing it to boys and it's still just as wrong and potentially hurtful.

I remember a girl on my school bus who had a shirt that on the back that essentially said "All men are evil, sex-crazed, idiotic monsters."

I know of at least two cases where it was a woman, or group of women, who were being sexist towards the guys.

There's "Y: The Last Man", where there's a group of fanatical woman called Daughters of Amazon, who think Mother Nature cleansed herself of the "abberation of the Y chromosome" and start decimating anything symbolizing male authority, such as christian churches and monuments.

And then there's an episode of Justice League, where a rogue Amazon warrior decides to unleash a plague to kill all men. Even when Wonderwoman told her of the good men can do, the rogue simply says it's not enough to account for all the cruelty men did over the years, or something along those lines.

brekclub85 · **Reply #102 on:** April 23, 2010, 05:26:03 PM

Another cliche I'm beginning to notice that bugs me:

In stories about courtroom cases, the defense/jurors who vote not guilty are always portrayed as right/nice while the prosecution/ jurors who vote guilty is always portrayed as wrong/jerks.

Dash The Longneck · **Reply #103 on:** April 23, 2010, 06:53:07 PM

Quote from: Animeboye,Mar 22 2010 on 12:51 AM

^ OMG, you'ze a virgin? LOOZER!!!

But in all seriousness, I agree 100% with you, Cancerian Tiger. Sex scenes in horror films contribute nothing to the overall plot and are simply shameless fanservice. I mean come on! I wanna watch a horror, not a porno!

Well, there are times that the sex scenes do add to the Horror movie. But only if the killer kills one of the characters during or straight after the sex scene. Like for example Nightmare on Elm Street or Halloween.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #104 on:** April 25, 2010, 05:09:04 AM

Speaking of courtroom cliches: All lawyers are evil.
No, they're necessary. It's their job to make sure that accused is defended properly asd part of an impartial system that was designed not to just toss potentially innocent people in prison with ease like when we had monarchies. They also make sure everyone's story is told in detail before the Judge or jury can make a decision and they are what forces the local law inforements to make damn sure that they are not about to either send an innocent person off to do serious time or to 'the chair'. Sure, there are some dishonest ones, but mostly they're just individuals doing a job.
So stop portraying them in such a disproportionately negative light, Hollywood!

Littlefoot Fan · **Reply #105 on:** April 25, 2010, 03:12:21 PM

The villain holding somebody close to the hero at gun-point/knife-point, forcing the hero to put down his gun. Just once I would love to see the hero not even hesitate, just blow a hole through the villain, which would probably end up in whoever was held hostage killed as well. The hero was so consumed with anger and hate because of what the villain had put him through, and he wanted revenge so badly, that he abandoned all his emotions, and severed all ties to his heart, just so he could take him down. That would be an ending to remember.

F-14 Ace · **Reply #106 on:** April 25, 2010, 07:10:22 PM

Quote from: Littlefoot Fan,Apr 25 2010 on 02:12 PM

The villain holding somebody close to the hero at gun-point/knife-point, forcing the hero to put down his gun. Just once I would love to see the hero not even hesitate, just blow a hole through the villain, which would probably end up in whoever was held hostage killed as well. The hero was so consumed with anger and hate because of what the villain had put him through, and he wanted revenge so badly, that he abandoned all his emotions, and severed all ties to his heart, just so he could take him down. That would be an ending to remember.

Not quite. Rather than shoot the scumbag and kill the hostage in the process, I'd like to see the hero simply put a bullet right between that smug sucker's eyes. I mean, most of the time the dude's head is completely exposed anyway.

MrDrake · **Reply #107 on:** April 25, 2010, 08:26:14 PM

But you've got to remember, heroes seems to have moral standards and if they kill the villain, that would mean that they're just stooping down to the villain's levels, something I don't think the hero would like to do.

Like Batman for example, he would never kill the Joker, it's to do with one of his rules, which the Joker uses to his advantage. Besides, I reckon that the villain also makes the hero. If there are no villains, then what use is a hero?

Malte279 · **Reply #108 on:** April 26, 2010, 05:38:59 AM

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Not quite. Rather than shoot the scumbag and kill the hostage in the process, I'd like to see the hero simply put a bullet right between that smug sucker's eyes. I mean, most of the time the dude's head is completely exposed anyway.

I know one movie at least in which exactly that happened, but I doubt that movie to be known by more than a handful of people in the US. The title is "Old Surehand" and it is supposedly based on the novels of Karl May a 19th century author who wrote a long series of books many of which play in the Old West. His books are immensely popular over here and contribute a lot to the generally very high interest in Cowboys and Indians among kids (and a significant number of grownups as well) over here. His books however are also extremely full of clishees and convey a rather faulty image of American indians and the old west to the readers. As for the movies many of them took only the characters of the books and told different stories which were even further from historic reality (not a movie without some BIG explosion

). So these movies are mainly for entertainment. In any case in the movie Old Surehand we have that scene in which the bad guy holds takes cover behind the hostage to be shot anyway without the hostage getting hurt though the hostage (who happens to be the comic relief of the movie) thinks he was hit because apparently there was a little blood (which you don't see in the movie) that had splashed onto him from the bad guy.
In any case if you want to see any REALLY clishee loaded (but still kind of entertaining) Western you might want to look out for these movies which even topped the load of clishees from the books they are based on

Ptyra · **Reply #109 on:** May 29, 2010, 01:36:20 AM

Darn I had one...
But, here's another.

In most insect movies, the main species are colony insects- either bees or ants, more commonly ants. The protagonist is usually the low ranking awkward guy who falls for the princess and ends up having to come up with really crazy ideas to save the colony. Oh yeah, and they're also really awkward and feel "insignificant". That, and the characters/couple that I REALLY warm up to are minor characters. In A Bug's Life, those characters would be Manny and Gypsy. In Antz, those characters would the the wasps/WASPS (

).

Lol, I was soooo obsessed with Manny and Gypsy when I was in elementary school and they had hybrid kids in my storyline. These days, I think they'd just adopt a little moth caterpillar and mantis nymph (a TOTALLY cuter concept, if I say so myself X3 ). I just watched Antz today and completely fell in love with Chip and Muffy. I felt so horrible for "Chippy" when Muffy died. There's nothing like having your spouse die right after/in the middle of "making Z lose his appetite". It's one of those "Heh heh he-OH SH!--!!!" kinds of things when you're watching a movie. And there was so much to Chip helping Z back to the colony than "what his wattling-kiddles would want". He also wanted to keep Z from losing the one he loved like he did (thus preventing Z from turning into a depressed drunk like he had

).

Now...what was that other one? It was in my head somewhere. I'm going to sit with Pooh Bear in his Thinking Place now. Think, think think.

Highsoar · **Reply #110 on:** June 18, 2010, 12:21:13 AM

Quote from: Malte279,Dec 14 2009 on 06:23 PM

If there is an "old wise teacher / mentor" kind of a character in a fantasy story you can be almost certain that he will be killed in the story. There are cases where he (most of the time it is a he) does a "Gandalf" and returns but really most of the old mentors of a main character are killed of. With Gandalf I already mentioned one case of exception because he returns. Other examples can be found in Star Wars (Obi Wan Kenobi (and one could probably name some more examples)), Harry Potter (Dumbledore), Eragon (Grom or something like that), Highlander (whatever the name of Sean Connery's character was). I'm quite sure I have seen more examples of this. Old mentor's don't tend to get much older

Connor's mentor was Ramirez

Or the longer form, Juan Sanchez Villa Lobos Ramirez.

I saw that Merlin leaving Arthur posts...maybe that's what makes the current Merlin more fun. It's not accurate completely to the legends, but it avoids that cliche.

brekclub85 · **Reply #111 on:** January 12, 2011, 04:59:44 PM

This isn't so much a cliche in movies/books/shows etc themselves, but an audience response I find annoying sometimes.

I get annoyed how some people treat action movies like they're above criticism. If someone criticizes the plot, someone else would say, "It's not supposed to be about the plot." The same response would be said if you talked about acting, all they would respond is if whether the main characters were bad@$$ enough.

And how if someone says they found a particular action movie boring, someone would respond with "How could it be boring? It's an action movie." IMO, just because lots of stuff is happening on screen doesn't mean it's interesting.

I mean, I'm all for mindless fun but there are some movies that just simply fail at being that.

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #112 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:15:35 PM

I know animeboye is going to chew me out for asking this, but could you provide an example that lacked on 'fun' part of the mindless fun. I'm genuinely curious.

brekclub85 · **Reply #113 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:25:20 PM

Well, back in the summer I saw the Expendables, mainly cause my dad and best friend were interested in seeing it. Now, I didn't think it was bad, but it bored me.

By the final battle some much stuff was happening on screen I couldn't really get particularly interested on one particular event. And I just felt the action repetitive.

And what I said earlier about mindless fun, I meant that there are some movies that are so bad, it isn't even good enough to be mindless fun

WeirdRaptor · **Reply #114 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:27:50 PM

Fair enough. Not a fan of too much happening on screen at once, huh? Me, too. Me, I didn't like because I don't like Stallone.

brekclub85 · **Reply #115 on:** January 12, 2011, 06:30:56 PM

At least with slasher movies, they try to do a variety of gore effects and murder methods, I'd be bored if it was just simple stabbings each kill.

I mean, you can only see so many explosions before they all start to look the same.

LBTDiclonius · **Reply #116 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:09:45 PM

How Wolves are given such a bad reputaton in movies. Take for instance The Chronicles of Narnia the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. The wolves were the bad guys. Wolves aren't that bad. At least they made the fox be a good guy.Tthe sad thing is, he was turned to stone. And I hate that cliche too. How we know that one of the good guy's is always going to die sacrificing himself or herself. <_< Yeah, I know that when the fox is turned to stone he isn't really sacrificing himself, but he kind of is at the same time.

LBTDiclonius · **Reply #117 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:31:16 PM

Sorry for the double post, but I just got two more.

How the girl is alway's the "Damsel in Distress" that needs to be saved by the male characters. That downright annoy's me. It's so stupid. Thank goodness for Scooby-Doo! We finally get to see some action from the girl and she has to save the guy's butts.

how first nations' people are always considered to be dumb, clumsy, and stupid. This cliche is just a LIE. First nations' are actually brilliant.

DarkHououmon · **Reply #118 on:** January 12, 2011, 08:58:17 PM

Quote from: LBTDiclonius,Jan 12 2011 on 07:31 PM

How the girl is alway's the "Damsel in Distress" that needs to be saved by the male characters. That downright annoy's me. It's so stupid. Thank goodness for Scooby-Doo! We finally get to see some action from the girl and she has to save the guy's butts.

Ever seen Enchanted? At the ending climax, the main antagonist takes the male character hostage and the princess goes to save him. The antagonist even commented how the man she was holding was the 'damsel in distress'.

LBTDiclonius · **Reply #119 on:** January 12, 2011, 09:10:34 PM

Yep, I've seen it. But not for a long time, so I didn't remember it. But that was a real shocker, a good shocker though.