The Gang of Five
Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => Hobbies and Recreation => Gamers Zone => Topic started by: brekclub85 on February 17, 2012, 06:35:29 PM
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Having owned MK7 for a few months now, my next most highly anticipated 3DS game is KH 3D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Heart...m_Drop_Distance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_3D:_Dream_Drop_Distance)
From the trailers, this looks like it could IMO be the most mysterious game in the series..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9KNN45eScE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9KNN45eScE)
Having really liked BBS and 358/2 Days, I can't wait to add this to my collection :)
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I have to say, I'll save up for a 3DS if this game is successful, as its the only game in the system's linup that I'm heavily anticipating.
P.S. Notre Dame in Kingdom Hearts, sweet.
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Horray. Another useless entry for Square to halfass to appease it's demons...er, fanbase, instead of just giving us a proper KHIII.
Or at least that's how I imagine their mindset being.
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I actually liked the spin-off titles so far, they do legitimately add to the story.
And, I'm fine with it not being a main KH 3. I mean, that's like saying the Mario Galaxy games shouldn't be made because they weren't technically in the style of the Super Mario Bros games.
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No, it isn't. Super Mario doesn't have a definitive story that needs finishing, and Nintendo dabbled in all different styles when creating the series from the very beginning. Hell, the main Mario series has been different from the very beginning.
With KH, they have a story going on that has gone unfinished way too long. The side stories add nothing as far as I'm concerned. I don't give a crap about Xion, Roxas, Ventus, Terra, Data Sora, any of those other losers. The only good thing to come out of the KH side stories is Aqua.
It's been seven years since KHII. The final chapter is long overdue. Seven more and it'll match Duke Nukem Forever for most overdue video game sequel ever, and Square hasn't even began production yet. Instead, they'd rather waste our time with crap like FFXIII-2 and 3, instead of making games fans actually want.
I liked the first FFXIII, but no one, NO ONE, was begging for a 2. And what the hell happened to making a new FF game with a new Roman Numeral with each update. They also need to stop making Dragon Quest games I need a ****ing subscription fee to play! They also need to cut the online crap.
Yeah, I know I sound harsh, but that's my opinion.
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If no one wanted the spin off titles, then how come 358/2 Days. Birth By Sleep, and Coded all got mostly positive responses from fans?
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Newsflash, most of those didn't do that well. In fact Days was practically a flop.
And even if for some insane reason people actually did want the spin-off titles, that's still no excuse not to make flagship titles, which the majority want. For every one person that wants FFX-4 or whatever, they are ten want FFXV. And I guarantee that everyone wants a KHIII. It's all pure laziness (or contempt) on Square's part.
Seriously, we should be up to FFXVII by now.
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I see...so if someone wanted Days/Birth/Coded, they're insane huh?
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Yes, I'm resentful. So what? The KH did well, so there is no excuse for the lack of KHIII, and I blame all the spin-off titles Square has been wasting their money that receive divided feedback, at best.
Days was a terrible game. I played through endless levels without ever advancing the plot and I had to fight the control scheme every step of the way just to get the damn thing to work. KH was never meant to be played on a handheld. Give me a controller any day.
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So you admit you hate those who don't share your opinions on games/companies, huh?
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You're trying to goad me into saying something. It won't work. I never said that and you know it.
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Ok fine, I guess I misunderstood your words, but aren't you the one who says, in regards to topics on movies/shows/games, that if you don't like it, you shouldn't post in the topic?
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Alright, now you're just trying to piss me off. Quit. Now.
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I'm just trying to be optimistic, but I guess a comment you made some time ago is right...there's no use for optimism on the internet.
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Well, there isn't. Not when concerning Square-Enix, anyway. I wouldn't even mind all the side titles and spin-offs if they weren't being made to the direct detriment of the flagship titles. We're getting material that's an entirely new story with new characters in a new setting with less and less frequency.
FFIV: Perfect ending, didn't need "The After", which I refuse to play for fear that it will ruin Cecil and Rosa's happy ending.
FFX: The ending was poetic, and the sequel ruined it.
FFXIII: Ended perfectly. Doesn't need a sequel.
KH: JUST MAKE KHIII ALREADY!
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It's been established that KH III will be the next title in the series.
Also, for the FF4 sequel, Cecil and Rosa's happy ending is not ruined.
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I'll believe the former point when I actually see it.
I read that Cecil ends up in Hell in "The After" a long while back. So...he gets out?
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This is from Cecil's page on the FF wiki, explaining what happens to him in "After"
Seventeen years later, Cecil is seen at Baron castle with Rosa and Cid, with the castle coming under attack. When the Mysterious Girl attacks the castle, he attempts to question her identity but is defeated when she summons Bahamut. He does not reappear until his son Ceodore and the Hooded Man return to Baron, only to find that many of its inhabitants are impostors, who they escape from. It turns out that Cecil has been possessed by the Mysterious Girl when Ceodore's party encounters him again. They are forced to fight him as well as the Eidolon Odin, who comes to his senses and knocks Cecil out of the possession.
As he is nursed back to health, Ceodore joins Rydia, Golbez, Edge, and Luca to take out the Mysterious Girl, who escapes and Golbez calls the Lunar Whale to pursue her. Soon the whole party, including Cecil (who has lost his will to fight), goes into the crater dungeon to defeat bosses emerging from the eight crystals. Then Cecil and Golbez fight a sinister version of the former's Dark Knight form. But as the Dark Knight is about to finish Cecil off, Golbez jumps in to protect him, taking a heavy blow in the process.
Cecil regains his strength and with the help of his family, defeats the Dark Knight. Cecil continues to fight against the forces of darkness, defeating both the Mysterious Girl and her master, the Creator. With peace assured, Cecil returns home to Baron, where he helps train Ceoodore. Even after the events of the game, Cecil is still stronger and wins the sparring match against his son.
(Not said in the paragraph, but Rosa is reffing the final sparring match, so they're all fine in the end)
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Oh Thank God!
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I'm still looking forward to KH 3D, as I've enjoyed every KH game I played.
But if you don't want to play the game, fine, I'm not gonna judge you.
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I don't really have a choice, since Square is insistant that this game is what leads to KHIII, so I HAVE to play it else I miss a major plot point.
I'll never forget popping KHII in having not played Chain of Memories and going 'wtf' every fifteen minutes. It taught me a hard lesson about the series, so I've played all the danged titles simply because I have to to understand KHIII, because Square designed it that way. I probably would have a better attitude about the spin off titles if they weren't pratically obligatory.
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Personally, if there's a plot-based game I wanna see but it's on a console I don't own, I watch youtube Let's Plays
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I find it way too easy to zone out while watching an LP from start to finish (unless it's for a game I absolutely cannot get my hands on). However, those things are a Godsend when stuck. So, so much better than going to Gamefaqs and leafing through mountains of words to find out why I'm currently stuck somewhere.
For the most part, all I've had to get are the games, which have either been on PS2 or DS, both of which I own, so it's not a big hassle. As for BBS, I have a friend with a PSP and a copy of the game who let me burrow it.
And I've got the 2DS anyway, so DDS won't be a problem.
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Part of the reason I don't mind the KH spinoffs (Or even FF X-2) is because I think the gameplay is still good, and the story is a bonus when it's good.
Heck, before I was 10 I loved playing FF 7, 8, and 9 though I could barely follow the plots when I was a kid. I just loved the battle systems
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Oh, yesh, I'm also all for gameplay over plot anyday.
I also liked the gameplay for FFX-2 along with several other elements of it. I just wish the story didn't involve trying to undue Tidus's heroic sacrifice. Yes, Tidus dying was very sad, but it was his decision, and for a very good cause. I found the character annoying sometimes, but he grew on me. And dang if his final sacrifice didn't make him go out with a haunting bang.
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My least fav FF among the ones I've played is probably 5, because I just didn't like the battle system. (Which is ironic in retrospect, because X-2's gameplay is somewhat similar to 5's with the various job classes.)
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Wow, I actually had to stop and think about what made FFV different from the others its been so long. I can totally see that, since the classes can be a pain.
*Shifty eyes* Just alternate between training the characters in different kinds of classes. Two combat trained ones, and two magic. Then switch. I once trained Anna as a Monk, then a White Mage. She was able to Cure AND dish out a volley of highly damaging bare fisted punchs when need be.
My least favorite in FFII, because I hated the leveling system. I would go into more detail, but I'm afraid I'd break out into a several paragraph rant.
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in terms of non-Square rps, I really liked Megaman X Command Mission because the gameplay (while I'd say it's different enough I would not accuse it of ripping off) was very similar to FFX's, which was a battle system I really enjoyed.
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I havev't played that. I keep meaning to, but I never get around to it.
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It's good, IMO I would still describe it as Megaman x Meets Final Fantasy X
And surprisingly...no Sigma anywhere in the game, not even a mention.
I'm glad this conversation didn't end angrily between us.
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Me, too.