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Important Announcements => Announcements => Topic started by: Mumbling on October 12, 2020, 02:47:30 AM

Title: Emote reorganization
Post by: Mumbling on October 12, 2020, 02:47:30 AM
As mentioned in several topics, we have a bunch of emotes all over the place. We should decide on a few things:


This poll is created to decide on how to organize the emotes. We will need to discuss which emotes to move to the separate pop-up as well. Feel free to do so here.
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Stardisk on October 12, 2020, 03:06:52 AM
I've voted for the first variant (by creator). But I think it is not good idea to hide a part of emoticons in the separate window, because the hidden emoticons will not be used often.
To prevent the excessive height of emoticon panel, I would like to offer fixed height + vertical scroll for it.
Or move ALL the emoticons to the separate window.
 :littlefoot
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Mumbling on October 12, 2020, 03:11:50 AM
I've voted for the first variant (by creator). But I think it is not good idea to hide a part of emoticons in the separate window, because the hidden emoticons will not be used often.
To prevent the excessive height of emoticon panel, I would like to offer fixed height + vertical scroll for it.
Or move ALL the emoticons to the separate window.
 :littlefoot
Yes, that is something that might happen. I was also thinking of moving all emotes to make sure people don't miss out on any, but that makes adding emotes to a post even more a pain in the butt (especially on mobile) ;)

Fixed height could be an option, though again we would have to consider how that would look and work on mobile.
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Stardisk on October 12, 2020, 03:18:32 AM
Fixed height could be an option, though again we would have to consider how that would look and work on mobile.
 
Didn't see any problem :littlefoot

For this example I chose max-height 300px. Probably we can reduce the size of emoticons in the panel for mobiles.
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Mumbling on October 12, 2020, 03:19:46 AM
Cool! Will definitely consider that as an option then! @The Chronicler would that work for you too?
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Sneak on October 12, 2020, 05:20:06 AM
What about adding radio button that switches sorting method? :D


Well, I prefer to group emotions by emotion type more.
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Mumbling on October 12, 2020, 05:22:35 AM
What about adding radio button that switches sorting method? :D


Well, I prefer to group emotions by emotion type more.
That would be nice, but right now we can only sort them manually (in one way). Unless Stardisk has a solution for this too? :)
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Sneak on October 12, 2020, 05:27:35 AM
Also, we can make new thread to list all emotes from forum and discord, and give a credits to their authors. I don't see a need to sort emotes by authors.

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right now we can only sort them manually (in one way)

Forum platform doesn't allow to sort them dinamically?

I mean, what we can add or change, and what we can't?
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Stardisk on October 12, 2020, 05:28:13 AM
Unless Stardisk has a solution for this too? :)
Of course  :littlefoot
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Mumbling on October 12, 2020, 05:46:22 AM
Also, we can make new thread to list all emotes from forum and discord, and give a credits to their authors. I don't see a need to sort emotes by authors.

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right now we can only sort them manually (in one way)

Forum platform doesn't allow to sort them dinamically?

I mean, what we can add or change, and what we can't?
You can already see who the author of an emote is by hovering over it (the text will let you know who made it) :)

The default SMF system allows me to manually move an emote elsewhere (see attached image, where I selected  :littlefoot:) and I can put him in another spot)

Unless Stardisk has a solution for this too? :)
Of course  :littlefoot
I'd love to hear it :D
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Sneak on October 12, 2020, 06:07:06 AM
I know you can see authors by hovering on it, but you can't see who author is on mobile version. :P
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Stardisk on October 12, 2020, 06:08:44 AM
I know you can see authors by hovering on it, but you can't see who author is on mobile version. :P
That's also can be fixed. Everything can be fixed and/or changed  :littlefoot
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: StardustSoldier on October 12, 2020, 09:08:15 AM
I voted for "By creator". Since every artist here has their own unique style and I think that would be a nice way to show that off. :)

Of course, as Sneak mentioned, if there was a way to have some sort of button that switched between sorting methods, that would be even cooler. But if that isn't possible, then "By creator" is my personal preference.
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Anagnos on October 12, 2020, 10:51:02 AM
I voted ''by creator'' as well. For me it seems the most logical option, but there are of course those that will disagree with me on that. I second Stardust and Sneak about the button that can switch between sorting methods. I feel like that could help a lot. :)
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on October 12, 2020, 01:07:32 PM
I say character, with the yellow circle faces at the beginning
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: The Chronicler on October 12, 2020, 10:26:53 PM
Okay, I've been thinking about what exactly I would prefer, and after reading through the suggestions mentioned thus far, I agree that a selection box that's fixed in one direction and can be scrolled in the other direction would be an excellent way to keep the selection box as minimally invasive as possible. The reason I've worded it like that is because I simply can't decide whether to do it by x-axis or y-axis, so to speak. Those two options are actually inspired by what I'm familiar on other sites. BZPower uses only a single row of emotes that can be scrolled horizontally, while FiMFiction uses a square box about as wide as ten emotes that can be scrolled vertically. Perhaps it might be worth starting another poll to see which of those two orientations everyone might prefer.

As for my vote in this poll, I went with "by character", mostly because it's similar to what I'm familiar with on FiMFiction.
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: OwlsCantRead on October 13, 2020, 12:37:49 AM
By character is my vote. Many times when I use an emote I usually have a LBT character in mind to use as said emote. :P
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: RainbowFaceProtege on October 16, 2020, 12:16:42 AM
Exactly what Owls said--I vote for by character!
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Mumbling on October 16, 2020, 03:43:34 AM
Quick update:

Stardisk is working on creating a version where we can sort the emotes in all of the 3 above ways. It should be ready soon. Also with the added scroll bar of course :)

For now I have sorted them manually by character as this was the most voted for option. This will not be the final look. But just to give an idea.
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: StardustSoldier on October 16, 2020, 04:51:14 PM
Thanks for all your work on this, guys. :)littlefoot
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Mumbling on October 20, 2020, 04:10:18 PM
Welllllll... it's done! Again thanks to @Stardisk we now have dynamic sorting available. When you create a new post you will see the following new features:
- A scroll bar for emotes. It will no longer fill up the entire screen
- An option to change the way emotes are sorted (default, by character, by emotion, by author)
- A checkbox to put the sorted emotes on separate lines rather than in a cluster.

It took a while, but I believe it has been more than worth it. Please let us know what you think!

Disclaimer: I added the "emotions" a bit arbitrarily. If you think a certain emote would with better in a different "Emotion" section, please let me know (here or through a PM).
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Sneak on October 20, 2020, 05:13:57 PM
Four things:
- If you activate separated rows mode and then deactivate it, title for first row won't disappear.
- Maybe we should sort by characters and by authors alphabetically. It will be more logical, and you will take less time to find your character/author.
- I think adding some padding between message textbox and settings panel would be good. :)
- I think, separated rows should be deactivated by default. It takes more time to scroll down every time you make new post, or edit your old post.

Everything else id perfect at first glimplse!! :D

Edit: About alphabitical order. I wrote that because I noticed that, for some reason, Cera is first (Because threehorns are the best in everything!  x(cera), though there's Ali, for example. Only now I noticed than a lot of charcters are placed in "Longnecks" category.Hmm, well, maybe it's better for the sake of page space, if separated rows is activated,  but not fair for individual characters' sake! XD
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: The Chronicler on October 20, 2020, 07:10:28 PM
Yeah, this new arrangement of emotes is definitely much better now, especially now that we can scroll through the options, which effectively eliminates the one big complaint I had for a while. Now I can actually be completely okay with fanartists potentially adding new ones, as it will not take up any further screen space (it'll just mean more scrolling, which I don't mind at the current size of the list).
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Anagnos on October 21, 2020, 04:02:26 AM
Wonderful, this new system should make things much easier to work with now. Thanks to all the participants in this project. :duckyhappy
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Mumbling on October 21, 2020, 08:24:40 AM
Four things:
- If you activate separated rows mode and then deactivate it, title for first row won't disappear.
- Maybe we should sort by characters and by authors alphabetically. It will be more logical, and you will take less time to find your character/author.
- I think adding some padding between message textbox and settings panel would be good. :)
- I think, separated rows should be deactivated by default. It takes more time to scroll down every time you make new post, or edit your old post.

Everything else id perfect at first glimplse!! :D

Edit: About alphabitical order. I wrote that because I noticed that, for some reason, Cera is first (Because threehorns are the best in everything!  x(cera), though there's Ali, for example. Only now I noticed than a lot of charcters are placed in "Longnecks" category.Hmm, well, maybe it's better for the sake of page space, if separated rows is activated,  but not fair for individual characters' sake! XD

1) You're right, we'll fix this!
2) Yes, I had to group certain characters and emotions together to make sure the separate rows are not taking forever to scroll through. We can of course change certain groupings, but for now I've placed all characters with just 1 emote together with some others. We could add Ali (and Shorty, who received a similar treatment) to the "sidekick" group instead of longnecks, for example.
3) OK.
4) I believe it is deactivated by default.
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Stardisk on October 21, 2020, 05:46:25 PM
"By Default" sorting doesn't work.  - fixed
Checkbox "Display smileys on separate rows" doesn't save its state - fixed
Remaining the first heading row after uncheking the division checkbox - fixed
Padding required between field and smile sorting panel - instead of that we have moved the sorting panel above the emoticon panel, and added a margin between the emoticon panel and the message field

Also there are new features:
You can hide/show the whole emoticon panel
You can change the height of the emoticon panel by dragging its bottom right corner

 :littlefoot
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: Sneak on October 21, 2020, 06:52:44 PM
Thanks again! ^^
Title: Re: Emote reorganization
Post by: StardustSoldier on October 27, 2020, 04:48:00 PM
Yes, thanks a ton. This is great. It is, it is. :yes

I wanted to inquire if this emote, originally from the server, could be added here at all.
(https://i.imgur.com/6LySucE.png)