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Post by: Flathead770 on August 12, 2007, 03:43:59 AM
Talk all about the Metroid franchise here. I am happy to say that Metroid and Super Metroid will be released on the VC on Aug 13 and 20 respectively and Metroid Prime 3 on the 27. Looks like i'm gonna be busy before school. :DD
The source of this information can be found here (http://wii.ign.com/articles/812/812102p1.html) at ign.com.
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Post by: Cyberlizard on August 15, 2007, 12:01:00 PM
I don't understand why this topic hasn't recieved a single reply yet...  :blink:   Anyways.  I LOVE Metroid.  ^^  I have the original Metroid for my NES and Super Metroid for my SNES.  I also have the first Metroid Prime (just started playing) and Metroid Prime Hunters and I so can't wait for Metroid Prime 3 to come out in a couple weeks!
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Post by: Manny Cav on August 15, 2007, 12:33:21 PM
Super Metroid is da bomb. That game owns the SNES. I've spent hours on that game playing through it, trying to get all of the items, just messing around, trying to do stange stuff like sequence-break, exploit all of the glitches, etc.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on August 15, 2007, 12:35:33 PM
Hmm, well, according to an issue of Gameinformer, Metroid Prime 3 will come out August 21.

GamePro has recently showed off the exclusive cover of Metroid Prime 3.  On it, Samus and her corrupted side are facing away from each other over a planet similar to what you would see if you looked at Earth from space.  My description may be a bit iffy, but it looked quite beautiful.

One thing Retro talked about with GamePro was how much trouble they had making the controls just right.  The art designing was easy compared to the control function.  So, one thing they've decided to do is have you adjust the controls as you wish as you progress through the game and have you choose which button does what.  It is a function that is sorely missed and very much welcome.  They don't have to worry about getting the controls right because we'll get to decide on that. :^.^:

This game is looking more and more promising and I hope it doesn't disappoint us. :)
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Post by: DarkHououmon on August 15, 2007, 12:56:38 PM
I've only played Metroid Prime.
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 16, 2007, 12:37:41 AM
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Hmm, well, according to an issue of Gameinformer, Metroid Prime 3 will come out August 21.
The Metoid Prime 3 Preview that you can download on the Wii says its coming out Aug 28, so i believe that. I have played, beaten and loved every metroid game, excluding Metroid Prime Pinball and my favorite is of coarse Super Metroid, but that might change when Metroid Prime 3 comes out.

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I've spent hours on that game playing through it, trying to get all of the items
I've gotten 100% under 3 hours before but every time i try again i always end up missing a missile pack and getting 99%. I can't even count how many hours i've spent playing that game.

Metroid Prime Hunters is a really fun game as well though i don't play online much after i got to Elite Hunter (3 Stars) because of the cheaters who use action replay to become invinsible and then blast you with the omega cannon. It just sucks the fun out of the game, and also lowers your score.
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Post by: Manny Cav on August 16, 2007, 12:42:59 AM
How can one decide a favorite between Super Metroid and Metroid Prime? A great classic that aged gracefully over time one on hand, and on the other, a game with not only classic Metroid characteristics, but also sweet graphics, 3D modeling, and FPS shootouts with space pirates.
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 20, 2007, 01:14:27 PM
I just downloaded Super Metroid on my Wii this morning and i love it. It reminds me of the old days when i played it on the SNES. I still have to get used to the controls again though, I'm so used playing the game on a keyboard because i've played it on an emulator for over five years. I did surprise myself though that i was able to preform the mockball my first try and get the Super Missiles early.
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Post by: Manny Cav on August 20, 2007, 02:43:47 PM
Hahaha, yeah, the mockball is a classic. It made the Spore Spawn battle last about 5 seconds. :lol
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 20, 2007, 04:33:55 PM
I just finished Super Metroid and got 99% in 2:10. I can't seem to remeber where the last missile pack is, argh.
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Hahaha, yeah, the mockball is a classic. It made the Spore Spawn battle last about 5 seconds.
I can literally beat Kraid in Zero Mission in 3 seconds. :lol
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Post by: Manny Cav on August 20, 2007, 05:54:57 PM
I had to go to a Super Metroid fan site to get that blasted last missile expansion.

Actually, Metroid Zero Mission is mauling me about now. I'm doing a 100% hard mode run. I've gotten all the way to Mecha Ridley, but I can never beat him, and the rare time I do, I can never get to the escape ship.
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 20, 2007, 09:00:55 PM
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Actually, Metroid Zero Mission is mauling me about now. I'm doing a 100% hard mode run. I've gotten all the way to Mecha Ridley, but I can never beat him, and the rare time I do, I can never get to the escape ship.
I'm stuck on the same part except that i only have 15% to get the 8th and final ending, though its really tough. I can only take about 2-4 hits from mecha ridley and i don't have the screw attack to destroy the missiles. Not to mention i only have 4 missiles, 2 super missiles and 1 1/2 energy tanks. I've beaten mecha ridley a couple of times, only to be killed by those darn space pirates at the end.
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 21, 2007, 01:40:58 AM
lol I just found the last missile pack. It was the one where you had to backtrack to Kraids lair with power bombs. I can't believe i forgot about that one. Every time i first enter Kraids lair i remember that i have to come back to get the missiles but it always ends up slipping my mind. Good thing i copied my file at Ridley so i could include it into my last-minute items i get. So my final time was 2:08 with 100%. And to think i was about ready to give up and look through the old nintendo power magazine to see where it was.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on August 21, 2007, 09:01:25 AM
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lol I just found the last missile pack. It was the one where you had to backtrack to Kraids lair with power bombs. I can't believe i forgot about that one. Every time i first enter Kraids lair i remember that i have to come back to get the missiles but it always ends up slipping my mind. Good thing i copied my file at Ridley so i could include it into my last-minute items i get. So my final time was 2:08 with 100%. And to think i was about ready to give up and look through the old nintendo power magazine to see where it was.
I've heard about those who have done a 100% speed run in just 1:30.  Think you can pull it off? ;)
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Post by: Manny Cav on August 21, 2007, 09:47:02 AM
I read in Nintendo Power itself that someone completed the game in under 40 minutes (I think it might have been 0:39 or so). They had to have used glitches to have pulled that off.
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 22, 2007, 01:50:17 AM
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I've heard about those who have done a 100% speed run in just 1:30. Think you can pull it off?
Possibly. But i've been getting around 2:10 with 99% for the last couple of tries, including on an emulator, which is easier fo me to play. I could use start using save states, but i don't consider that fair.

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I read in Nintendo Power itself that someone completed the game in under 40 minutes (I think it might have been 0:39 or so). They had to have used glitches to have pulled that off.
Theres a video on you youtube of a guy getting 100% in 55min. Using all the good old glitches like the murder beam and such. I'm fairly sure its a tool-assisted run though. I don't think i will be pulling off 40min on a any% speed run any day soon on Super Metroid. I did however beat Zero Mission on easy in 38min 25sec though. ~40min on mormal, and haven't done a hard speed run yet.
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 22, 2007, 02:10:46 AM
While were on the topic of Super Metroid, i found some hacks of the game and were wondering if any one wanted to give them a shot. I only know of 2 good hacks of the game.
The first, is called Super Metroid Impossible. As the name suggests, its suppesed to be really hard, or near impossible. The skills needed are as followed (copied from the site):
- Very fast Wall-Jumping skills
- Mid-Air Morph Bomb Jumping and Diagonal Bomb Jumping
- Bomb Jumping with Mid-Air Demorph + Shooting + continuing BJ
- Very flat Mockball or Speed Mockball
- Short Charge (speed booster)
- Very fast reflexes in all different situations
I just beat phantoon on this game and i can say that your going to get no where without savestates. I'll post some pics of me playing in a bit.

The next game is called Super Metroid Redesign and is a complete remake of the game. The physics of the game has been changed and there are 2 new itmes. Every area is also about twice as large. The game is also a bit harder then Super Metroid. For some reason this game does not work on any version of ZSNES that are above and including 1.4. Unfortunatley i have no pics of the game. So if any ones interested, just PM me, email me or whatever and i'll email them to you.
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 22, 2007, 02:40:12 AM
Heres the pictures of Super Metroid Impossible. The pictures are a taste of what the game is like early on and may encourage/discourage you from playing. If you don't want to see the pics then disregard this post.











(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SMI3.jpg)(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SMI4.jpg)
As you can see you only have 20 seconds to escape and i manage to escape with only .09 seconds left.
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SMI7.jpg)(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SMI10.jpg)
The bosses are also a lot tougher. See the spikes on the floor? They do 60/99 energy.
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SMI6.jpg)(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SMI11.jpg)
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SMI12.jpg)(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SMI13.jpg)
Heres some bomb jumping pics, the last pic looks pretty fun doesn't it?
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Post by: Flathead770 on September 03, 2007, 12:40:31 AM
Has anyone tried Metroid Prime 3 yet? I got the game about 5 days ago and i can tell you that the game is amazing. I haven't been able to put the game down so thats why i haven't been on the board lately. So, if you have the game, what are your impressions on it so far? Or ask if you need any help as i'd probably know what to do since i've beaten the game already.
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Post by: DarkHououmon on September 03, 2007, 12:52:08 AM
I haven't played it yet. I'm currently playing Metroid Prime 2, and I don't plan on starting Metroid Prime 3 until I'm finished with Metroid Prime 2.
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Post by: Littlefoot1616 on September 04, 2007, 08:01:06 AM
I only really got into Metroid once the new releases came out. I've played and completed both Prime 1 & 2 (with much difficulty and superfluous amounts of swearing  :lol ). I'm awaiting Prime 3 for Wii which gets to us on 26th Oct which I've been following on Gamespot constantly. I've only really played Metroid Fusion for GBA but I can't say I've stepped any further back then that into the Metroid timestream. Might be worth investing in them when they come on the Wii Virtual Console
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on September 04, 2007, 08:30:59 AM
I have yet to play Prime 3.  I didn't get it until last Thursday when I was on my lunch at work.  I get home rather late so you can understand me being tired and all.

I was planning to play it the next day, right after The Price is Right, but my brother had gotten his wisdom teeth pulled that day and, as a result, got to have the TV that the Wii and XBox 360 is connected to all to himself until he recovers.

At this point, only with his permission can I play it.  However, he is recovering nicely, and more than likely be able to go back to school tomorrow when it starts up again. (They usually have the first Friday and second Monday of the School Year off, but they changed it this year for some reason.)

I'll more than likely be waiting until then to be able to play it.  If I'm lucky to play it today though, I'll be "Oh so happy!" :^.^:
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Post by: Flathead770 on September 04, 2007, 10:55:10 PM
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I've played and completed both Prime 1 & 2 (with much difficulty and superfluous amounts of swearing  )
Well MP3 is supposed to be easier by including 2 difficulties, normal and veteran, to start of with and a harder unlockable difficulty, but i'm not sure how easy because i never played normal and went staight to veteran. I've been playing through the game again on hard and i'm happy to say that its harder then its predecessors. I happened to get hit by one of the earlier bosses best attacks and it took off a whopping 2/3 energy tanks.

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I've only really played Metroid Fusion for GBA but I can't say I've stepped any further back then that into the Metroid timestream. Might be worth investing in them when they come on the Wii Virtual Console
They're already are out. Both Metroid and Super Metroid.

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I'll more than likely be waiting until then to be able to play it. If I'm lucky to play it today though, I'll be "Oh so happy!"
I pity you. I'm dying to play the game on the way home from buying it and reading the instuction booklet a dozen times doesn't really seem to help  :lol .
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on September 05, 2007, 09:28:44 AM
Oh man!  I got the chance to play it last night and I must say that, from what I've seen so far, Retro has done this game beautifully!

They really went as far as possible with graphics for a Wii game.  They're definately showing that you don't need all that power to create a really beautiful piece of art.

The new feature of voices is really cool.  They've actually done well with it as far as I can tell.  It's too bad they didn't give one to Samus, they could've done well with her too. :)

The controls are going to take some getting used to, but I think I can handle them.

Now, the bosses, I'm not disappointed with.  They're all very unique and have different ways of being defeated.  They're definately no "shoot 'til they die" kind of bosses.  Besides, that'd be too easy and then we really couldn't call them bosses. :)

I can't wait to see Dark Samus.  I can already tell that this is going to be great! :^.^:
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Post by: Flathead770 on September 06, 2007, 12:17:34 AM
heh heh, glad your enjoying it as much as i was. I still enjoy playing the game through again though, gotta finish getting those couple scans and finish unlocking all those good stuff in the extras. Do you need any friend credits pokeplayer? If so, i could send you some friend vouchers to be transfered into friend credits so you can unlock some of the cooler things like the Mii bobblehead.

My Wii address is: 0825 3173 0530 7070
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on October 30, 2007, 01:51:04 PM
Nearly 2 Months after getting Metroid Prime 3, I have finally beaten the game!  Boy, this was one good game from beginning to end.  Retro definately came out with a winner here.  Outstanding graphics, wonderful music, (Something I'm sure Action9000 can appreciate.) superior weapons, (One of which is VERY much worth the wait in getting.) awesome gameplay, very well done boss battles, incredible storyline, perfect controls for a first-person shooter Wii game and to top it off, a spectacular ending to the Prime Series.

Retro, you've done well.  This one is definately in the runnings for Best Game of the Year.  It was well worth playing. :)
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Post by: Manny Cav on October 30, 2007, 08:39:57 PM
Did you finally learn that Mother Brain was not in it? :P:
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Post by: Chikara on October 31, 2007, 06:06:15 AM
I'm currently playing Metroid Prime 3, it only got released here (UK) on friday.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on October 31, 2007, 09:19:02 PM
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Did you finally learn that Mother Brain was not in it? :P:
Yes, though some will argue that the final boss IS Mother Brain, despite the official name, that being Aroura Unit 313, already given.

If you ask me though, with all Samus had to go through just to completely defeat Dark Samus, she's got to be one of the bravest bounty hunters I've seen.  All she had to do just to stop the evil.  It really must've hurt her.
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Post by: Flathead770 on October 31, 2007, 11:59:10 PM
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If you ask me though, with all Samus had to go through just to completely defeat Dark Samus, she's got to be one of the bravest bounty hunters I've seen. All she had to do just to stop the evil. It really must've hurt her.

You really notice it in the extended video (if you got 75% of the items) when she is thinking about the other hunters that she killed because they became corrupt. Thats probably what would scar her the most.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on November 01, 2007, 10:51:54 AM
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If you ask me though, with all Samus had to go through just to completely defeat Dark Samus, she's got to be one of the bravest bounty hunters I've seen. All she had to do just to stop the evil. It really must've hurt her.

You really notice it in the extended video (if you got 75% of the items) when she is thinking about the other hunters that she killed because they became corrupt. Thats probably what would scar her the most.
I actually did pull off 77% first time around, so yeah, I did get to see the scene where she goes to Elysia and just rests there, remembering all she had to go through.  Also, if you ask me, she looked like she was on the verge of crying.

That Dark Samus thing was just SICK!  What it did to Samus' comrades!  I'm glad I killed it.  A villian I can truely hate.  Once again, great job, Retro. :)
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Post by: Littlefoot1616 on November 01, 2007, 12:52:10 PM
I grabbed my copy of MP3 as soon as I finished work last friday and I've been playing it solidly since  :DD I have to say that all my expectations have been met and somewhat surpassed. Leave it to Nintendo/Retro to incorporate as much of the Wii motion-technology into the game as possible :D Call it gimicky or whatever but I think it's a great touch. The twisting handles, the hand-scan pad, grappling etc. All wickid additions to enhance the immersion! ;) I like the way the game is a little more mission based but it still hasn't quite lost the constant "back-tracking" sections where you have to return to a previously explored area coz you had to grab this power up from that place on the other side of the map. I'm just about to head off to the final fight having hunted around for any missed pickups (I'll probably finish it tonight).

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Well MP3 is supposed to be easier by including 2 difficulties, normal and veteran

That's one thing I have noticed is that the difficulty has been quashed a little. I found the previous MP instalments to be a lot harder (even on normal) particularly with the bosses. I won't delude myself by thinking that my skills have increased at all since playing Prime  :P: but, touch wood, *knocks on desk* I haven't actually died yet. Does anyone else reckon MP3 is that much easier to deal with than say the likes of 1 & 2?

Still, no regrets about nabbing this title and I'm sure it'll become a permanent addition to my slowly extending Wii collection ;) No second-hand shop will ever see my copy of MP3  :lol
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on November 01, 2007, 06:10:55 PM
Well, since you're headed to the final stage, I'll warn you now that you can easily die there.  The final planet itself is SO filled with Phazon, that you go into a state of "Pernament Hyper Mode".  This would seem like a good thing, but the problem is that you have lost ALL your Energy Tanks, even the one you started with.  Normally, the Phazon would die off, but since you lost all your energy, nothing can stop it from taking over your body now.  There are ways to slow it down though.  Just keep grabbing Energy Balls and when you use your Grapple Lasso on enemies, push the stick on the Nunchuck forward to release the Phazon into the enemies and overload them.  This will slow it down, but not stop it.  Think of this final stage as a race against time, and if you don't pull it off, you die.

What's worse is that you have to deal with three bosses in a row, so trying your best to get Energy Balls is quite crutial in the final battle.  Be ready for anything.  Dealing with the final bosses can be tricky.

Best of luck, and I hope you got enough for the well done secret ending.

Also, after you pull it off, I dare you to try the new difficulty you will be given.  It's really quite difficult. :)
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Post by: Flathead770 on November 02, 2007, 12:34:10 AM
actually i found the end to be easier. I beat the last boss and my meter at the top didn't even reach half way, it maybe got up to a quarter max. Hypermode was challenging but not as hard as MP 1 (darn Omega Pirate :lol ). I think i only died once and that was fighting rundus (his hypermode attack deals 2 energy tanks worth of damage).

I also found the game to be a lot shorter, i beat it in 13:30 with 98%. Took me another half hour to get the last 2 pickups. I think the secret video (100%) is sweet, almost as good as the first games secret video.
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Post by: Manny Cav on November 02, 2007, 12:47:29 AM
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Hypermode was challenging but not as hard as MP 1 (darn Omega Pirate :lol ).
I completed Metroid Prime on Hard Mode and got 100%. I died zero times against Meta Ridley. I died once against Metroid Prime (I forget what stage). I lost count on how many times I died trying to defeat the Omega Pirate on Hard Mode before finally winning. :lol
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Post by: Flathead770 on November 02, 2007, 12:57:11 AM
Ya meta ridley was a joke. i think i died once or twice on Metroid Prime on hard, 100% and the Omega Pirate took me like 5 or 6 tries. When i finally beat him i had 37 energy left :lol . Though none of these compare to ridley, mother brain, robot ridley, and those damned pirates at the end of the escape in Zero Mission is with 15% on hard.
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Post by: Manny Cav on November 02, 2007, 01:23:04 AM
Meta Ridley wasn't near as hard as he was brought out to be (Nintendo Power even had the nerve to award him the "harder than college" award in their annual awards). In fact, when I made my first run through the game, I still lost zero times against him, and I even had a handicapped missile supply (I didn't know where things were...) and used flawed strategies against him.

I've yet to complete hard 100% on Metroid Zero Mission because of those things (I hear that Mecha Ridley's stats are raised when you reach him with %100).
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Post by: DarkHououmon on November 02, 2007, 01:28:36 AM
Then I guess I'm a pretty pathetic player because Meta Ridley was HARD for me. :p I died so many times trying to beat him. I would get close, then I would run out of Super Missiles. The hardest part for me is when he's on the ground. I would have a heck of a time dodging and because super missiles take so long to shoot, hitting him was rather difficult.
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Post by: Manny Cav on November 02, 2007, 01:37:33 AM
When he gets on the ground, what you do is, when he exposes his chest to attack, blast it with regular power beam shots, and  THEN fire the super missle(s) when he screams and looks up.
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Post by: DarkHououmon on November 02, 2007, 01:43:42 AM
I'm not sure how I defeated him, but I eventually did. Meta Ridly is no joke. He is a hard boss to beat, in my opinion. I think the only gamers that can beat him without dying once are very talented players.
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Post by: Manny Cav on November 02, 2007, 01:53:23 AM
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I'm not sure how I defeated him, but I eventually did. Meta Ridly is no joke. He is a hard boss to beat, in my opinion. I think the only gamers that can beat him without dying once are very talented players.
But that doesn't account for the fact that I sweeped him on my first run. I guess that can be attirbuted to beginner's luck, though, because I lost to him on a few later runs, though I can pull it off pretty easily now.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on November 02, 2007, 08:55:53 AM
When it comes to first-person shooter games, I really have to win with skill rather than luck.  It's not one of the games I'm more talented at.  So the fact that I died on several different occasions is no big surprise.

I actually did die trying to beat Auroua Unit 313.  The cutscene of where Samus becomes corrupted when you lose is beautifully done.  It definately makes it look like you let the universe down.

Now, if you give me an RPG or racing game, then I'd really show you what I'm made of.  THAT is where my true skill lies. :)
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Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 02, 2007, 09:01:37 AM
This is one awesome game.  I used to play it all the time when I could call myself a gamer.  I especially liked one of them for gamecube, but I only played it once in a store demo.  I'd never install it on my computer, but I have a couple of emulators I used to use off of a flash drive.  Very handy.  The GB game was rather lame, but it was okay for mobile entertainment.  I hated having to beat this guy in the smash bro's for N64.  The character would always push me into the acid and I'd swear a lot. :lol
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Post by: Flathead770 on November 04, 2007, 01:44:56 AM
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(Nintendo Power even had the nerve to award him the "harder than college" award in their annual awards).
I'm pretty sure that was for the eigth ending in Zero Mission (15% or under on hard). I haven't been able to beat it probably never will because my game doesn't work anymore.

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I've yet to complete hard 100% on Metroid Zero Mission because of those things (I hear that Mecha Ridley's stats are raised when you reach him with %100).
Ya he does get harder. On normal without 100% he only takes 6 super missiles while with 100% he takes up to around 15 super missiles i think. I know on hard 100%, his swipes take off 3 energy tanks. But if you think thats hard, then wait until you try it with 15%, the lack of the screw attack makes it difficult because you have to break out of space jump to shoot the missiles for pickups.

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died so many times trying to beat him. I would get close, then I would run out of Super Missiles.
I never even use super missiles on Meta Ridley in MP1. The plasma beam is efficient enough to take him out. I can dodge a lot of his attacks as well, getting him down to a quarter health with barely losing one energy tank.

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When he gets on the ground, what you do is, when he exposes his chest to attack, blast it with regular power beam shots, and THEN fire the super missle(s) when he screams and looks up.
Super Missiles aren't even required for this part. All you need is a half-charged plasma blast when he opens his mouth to stun him, and thats on hard as well.
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Post by: DarkHououmon on November 04, 2007, 01:55:53 AM
I believe I've tried the plasma beam and it didn't work for me in that situation. And at this part, I was using a walkthrough and I believe they said to use super missiles.
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Post by: Flathead770 on November 04, 2007, 01:01:33 AM
i usually wait until he screams on the ground, not when hes about to charge, i was never really able to hit him then.
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Post by: Manny Cav on November 04, 2007, 10:09:56 AM
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(Nintendo Power even had the nerve to award him the "harder than college" award in their annual awards).
I'm pretty sure that was for the eigth ending in Zero Mission (15% or under on hard). I haven't been able to beat it probably never will because my game doesn't work anymore.
It was definitely the Meta Ridley on Metroid Prime.
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When he gets on the ground, what you do is, when he exposes his chest to attack, blast it with regular power beam shots, and THEN fire the super missle(s) when he screams and looks up.
Super Missiles aren't even required for this part. All you need is a half-charged plasma blast when he opens his mouth to stun him, and thats on hard as well.
I'm aware of the fact that super missiles aren't required to stun him. What I always do is fire several rapid power beam shots to stun him (the quickest way I know of to do it), and when he exposes his chest to attack, fire up a super missile. Switching through beams can cost valuable time to attack him.
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Post by: Chikara on November 25, 2007, 05:49:02 AM
I thought MP3 was an awesome game. I had very high expectations of it and there was very little that disappointed me. I liked many of the new features, especially the Grapple Lasso, welding torch and the power-up locator. The time limit on the final stage was an interesting touch too.

There were only a few things I didn't like. It was definitely not fair to have the Phaazoids able to shoot through solid objects like walls.

Now that I think about it, the corrupted Aurora Unit boss was probably a homage to Mother Brain.

So, all that's left is to hope Metroid Dread isn't too long until release.
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Post by: Manny Cav on November 25, 2007, 09:55:35 AM
Quote from: Chikara,Nov 25 2007 on  03:49 AM
So, all that's left is to hope Metroid Dread isn't too long until release.
:blink: I haevn't heard anything on this yet....

EDIT: Wait, isn't that that game for the DS that was canceled?
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Post by: Chikara on November 25, 2007, 04:37:05 PM
Metroid Dread is a game which has been rumoured to be in production for 2 years, but the rumours have neither been confirmed or disproven. Retro Studios, who make the Prime games, deny having anything to do with it, but in MP3, one of the computer screens on the Pirate Homeworld comes up as "Metroid project Dread approaching completion" if you scan it (it's in the Research Facility area of the Pirate Homeworld, in the room where you let the metroids out, on the upper level by one of the doors).
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Post by: Manny Cav on November 25, 2007, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: Chikara,Nov 25 2007 on  02:37 PM
but in MP3, one of the computer screens on the Pirate Homeworld comes up as "Metroid project Dread approaching completion" if you scan it (it's in the Research Facility area of the Pirate Homeworld, in the room where you let the metroids out, on the upper level by one of the doors).
According to this (http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2007/09/26/retro-studios-answers-the-dreaded-metroid-dread-question-and-other-prime-exclusives/), that was unintentional. What do you think?
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Post by: Chikara on November 26, 2007, 11:42:32 AM
Sorry, but "it's a coincidence" doesn't cut it with me. If the rumours about Metroid Dread have been around for 2 years, saying that Retro didn't know and named an unused MP3 element "Project Dread" by sheer chance is too unlikely for me to believe. The "it's nothing to do with us" argument sounds like a standard "we know about it, but we're sworn to secrecy" response. Nintendo are well known for keeping their in-development projects tightly under wraps.

EDIT: Just to clarify, what I mean by "standard response" is that Nintendo have a history of putting references in games and then denying everything in public.
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Post by: Manny Cav on November 26, 2007, 12:18:45 PM
They said it was a coincidence, but I still wouldn't put it pad them to exaggerate a little (or a lot) to keep something as big as this outside of the general public.
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Post by: Flathead770 on December 03, 2007, 12:03:57 AM
I was so exited when i first heard of Metroid Dread being rumored for the DS, and was dissapointed that these rumors were denied by Nintendo. Then BAM, after around 2 years the rumor pops up again in MP3 and my faith was some-what restored. But Nintendo denies the rumor again. I don't think that this can be a coincidence, unless Retro Studios decided it would be funny to place the message in the game to get people worked up. But i'm still hoping that the game will be released.

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I've heard about those who have done a 100% speed run in just 1:30. Think you can pull it off?
Well Pokeplayer it seems like i might be able to, as i just got a time of 1:33! With a bit more practice i could easily get under an hour and a half.
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SM133Hr1001.jpg)
(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa86/mrmeat770/SM133Hr1002.jpg)
And if thats not enough proof i can always record it.
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Post by: Flathead770 on January 22, 2008, 02:45:39 AM
has anyone seen the secret video in Metroid Prime 3 yet (unlocked by getting 100% of the items)? I find it to be one of the biggest surprises in the series (next to the one in the 1st Metroid Prime).
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Post by: Littlefoot1616 on January 22, 2008, 06:49:26 AM
Yep, I have. Can't say it means a lot to me though. Is there some sort of hidden message to it? Or is there a fan-based knowledge that that movie jogs? Coz it doesn't seem to have much relevance from my standing :huh: I don't wanna say specifically what happens for those who wish to earn the 100% completion FMV themselves  ;)
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Post by: Flathead770 on January 23, 2008, 02:26:17 AM
SPOILER! SCROLL DOWN TO READ ABOUT MY THOUGHTS ON THE 100% ENDING


































The ship that pulls up and stalks Samus after she leaves is Sylux's ship from Metroid Prime Hunters for the DS. Sylux despises the federation and hates Samus even more. Hes also my favorite hunter in MPH, so i thought the ending was sweet. One of the reasons i thought it was such a surprise because it looked like it was just going to be another bummer secret ending like in MP2:Echoes, then BAM, Sylux comes up and stalks Samus. Situational Irony at its best!













END OF SPOILER
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Post by: Littlefoot1616 on January 24, 2008, 08:23:03 AM
OK...I've not played Hunters so that doesn't really count for much for me I'm afraid :D Still, it was officially announced that Corruption was due to be the 3rd and final instalment of the Prime series (for GC/Wii anyway. Can't say for DS). I'm can imagine that there will be more Metroid games for our next-gen consoles but they'll probably be given a new subtitle rather than "Prime"
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Post by: Flathead770 on January 24, 2008, 06:03:22 PM
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I'm can imagine that there will be more Metroid games for our next-gen consoles but they'll probably be given a new subtitle rather than "Prime"
Thats what i fear after i beat MP3. I don't wanna wait another 8 years for a Metroid game to come out. It actually made me sad when i beat MP3 that its the end of the trilogy and there might not be another Metroid game for quite some time. Heres to hoping that Metroid Dread will come out.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on April 17, 2008, 12:53:43 AM
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I'm can imagine that there will be more Metroid games for our next-gen consoles but they'll probably be given a new subtitle rather than "Prime"
Thats what i fear after i beat MP3. I don't wanna wait another 8 years for a Metroid game to come out. It actually made me sad when i beat MP3 that its the end of the trilogy and there might not be another Metroid game for quite some time. Heres to hoping that Metroid Dread will come out.
You don't have to worry about another Metroid game not coming out.  Retro may be done with the Prime series, but they're not done with Metroid itself.  Who knows what's next for our blonde bounty hunter? :)
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Post by: Lillefot on April 17, 2008, 05:17:28 AM
Ah, a Metroid topic! Nice!
Very good games!
Though, I thought that Corruption was to easy...
When I beat Dark Samus on the hardest, I felt sad.

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Post by: Flathead770 on April 19, 2008, 11:57:01 PM
I have to agree with you Lillefot, seemed a bit to easy, even on hypermode. Have you played a the other Metroid games or just the Prime trilogy?
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Post by: ingster on May 04, 2008, 12:21:19 PM
as long as its metroid, ittle allways be good,
my most faveriot was prime 3, the best thing about it was
the phazon corrupion
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Post by: DarkHououmon on May 04, 2008, 12:40:41 PM
Dark Samus in Metroid Prime 3 was challenging for me, but still felt easy compared to Metroid Prime 2.
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Post by: Flathead770 on May 05, 2008, 01:42:26 AM
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my most faveriot was prime 3
Im playing through Metroid Prime 1 and so far i am enjoying the game way more then Metroid Prime 3. Maybe its because i haven't played MP1 in over 2-4 years or that ive gone through MP3 4 times now, or both. But MP1 and MP2 feels more like a Metroid game then MP3 does. MP3 almost seems to linear, and for the fact that even though i turned of my hint system, they still tell me where to go (one of my greatest regrets when playing MP1), because of that, i was able to beat the game in 14 hours WITH 100%. I still love MP3, but the more i play it, the more i realised how much i like the other 2 games more. To pick a favorite Metroid game it would go to, hands down, Super Metroid. I wouldn't doubt it if ive beaten it more then 50 times and i still love it.

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Dark Samus in Metroid Prime 3 was challenging for me, but still felt easy compared to Metroid Prime 2.
Ya, the last boss was almost a dissapointment for me, difficulty wise. Playing on Hypermode, my corruption meter only got up to 1/2 to maybe 2/3. Fighting Dark Samus in MP2 for the 3rd time could of been better, but i thought that Emporer Ing was pretty tough on hard (cant remember if i died or not). Metroid Prime was the hardest for me on hard as i actually died on the boss ( though skill could be a factor though because that was about 6 years ago when that happened, that would have made me about 12 years old). I still think the Omega Pirate was the hardest boss in all 3 games on the hardest difficulty.
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Post by: Lillefot on May 05, 2008, 02:56:30 AM
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I have to agree with you Lillefot, seemed a bit to easy, even on hypermode. Have you played a the other Metroid games or just the Prime trilogy?
It's sad, but all I've played are the Prime trilogy.
I have tried the others, but never acctually played them trough.

But for Prime, it's with no doubt one of the most best games I've ever played!
My favorite must be Echoes!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLOkc9MwFHs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLOkc9MwFHs)

My absolute HATE enemy in Prime 1, is for sure this **** guy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pfsuVu_NYs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pfsuVu_NYs)
But nowdays, he‰s quite a breeze.

I was soo glad when Ridley returned to MP3!

/Lillefot
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Post by: Flathead770 on May 06, 2008, 01:36:43 AM
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My favorite must be Echoes!
I would probably rate it 1,2,3. BTW, i love the Echoes intro music, i used to be able to play it on the keyboard. I should try to play it again. I also love the intro music to the other 2 as well.
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My absolute HATE enemy in Prime 1, is for sure this **** guy!
Meh, hes kinda tough the first time, especially when he gets to 1/4 health. But once you can dodge that, hes a breeze, i can beat him with only losing a maximum of 2 energy tanks on hard.
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I was soo glad when Ridley returned to MP3!
Ya...he always finds his way back into the games, despite being blown apart a couple pf times. But he's Samus's archnemisis, so he always has to come back and thats okay for me because hes my favorite video game character.
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Post by: Lillefot on May 06, 2008, 05:12:51 AM
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My favorite must be Echoes!
I would probably rate it 1,2,3. BTW, i love the Echoes intro music, i used to be able to play it on the keyboard. I should try to play it again. I also love the intro music to the other 2 as well.
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My absolute HATE enemy in Prime 1, is for sure this **** guy!
Meh, hes kinda tough the first time, especially when he gets to 1/4 health. But once you can dodge that, hes a breeze, i can beat him with only losing a maximum of 2 energy tanks on hard.
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I was soo glad when Ridley returned to MP3!
Ya...he always finds his way back into the games, despite being blown apart a couple pf times. But he's Samus's archnemisis, so he always has to come back and thats okay for me because hes my favorite video game character.
Hehe.
Which battle agains Ridley did you find funniest in Corruption?
I must say the second one, especialy on the hardest level of difficulty!
Tjough, the first one was differnet and kinda action!  :yes
The most annoying place in Corruption I think, was The Pirate Homeworld, I got lost some times!  :P:

/Lillefot
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Post by: Flathead770 on May 07, 2008, 01:01:20 AM
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Which battle agains Ridley did you find funniest in Corruption?
I like the first one better just because its so different from the other bosses. Plus falling down a generator shaft while fighting is just plain cool.

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The most annoying place in Corruption I think, was The Pirate Homeworld, I got lost some times!
Ya, it was probably my least favorite area in the game, though i did like the idea of acid rain. As for my favorite, i would have to go with the G.F.S. Valhalla. I've always loved those decimanted areas where there was some sort of battle and every ones dead. My favorite area out of all 3 games would be the Sanctuary Fortress from Echoes.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on May 07, 2008, 01:54:48 AM
You know Flathead, your time on MP1 is actually pretty far off from the Speed Challenge.  The time is less then 4 hours and 30 minutes.

It may seem a little impossible, but let me share a little trick with you.  There is a way to get the Space Boots right at the start of the planet.  You simply get on top of the ship and go as far back as you can without falling off.  Now, scan at an object that ends up being too far away for you to get data from.  After that, jump backwards and, right at the highest point, get out of the scan screen.  If timed right, you'll activate a glitch that will cause Samus to jump higher and farther, thus just barely landing on the cliff.  From there, just head down the path until you reach the Space Boots.

It may sound simple, but it is VERY tricky to pull off.  Remember, practice makes perfect.  Keep trying until you can get it.  Then, keep reseting and redoing it until you can get it on the first try.  Just keep it up.  You'll get it eventually. :)

Good luck, because even I have yet to pull this off, and I tried SO many times. -_-
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Post by: Lillefot on May 07, 2008, 03:01:03 AM
I've tried it too, freaking impossible!  :blink:
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Post by: Littlefoot1616 on May 07, 2008, 05:40:22 AM
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Which battle agains Ridley did you find funniest in Corruption?

I really liked MP3's battle with Meta Ridley. The free fall down the shaft. I also really like his theme music. So lively and edgy, helps with the tension ;)

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The most annoying place in Corruption I think, was The Pirate Homeworld, I got lost some times!

Funnily enough, I'd say my least likeable place is Elysia. I like the sky rails except those annoying electric saw things that insist on bumping you off. Once the centre island goes, it then becomes a trek to get from one side of the stage to the other. The shortcut cannons not seem very...short!  :DD

Gotta agree with the masses with Corruption being the easier of the trilogy. I'm still running through Hypermode and so far the only real issue I've had so far was fighting Rundus. That hypermode giant icicle does a ton of damage if it hits   :o Still got a ways to go but I'm pretty much prepared for anything having played it through enough times  :D

Hey flathead...I know it's been some time but....do you have my friend token yet?! I still haven't received your one so I was wondering if you'd got mine yet!  :lol
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Post by: Lillefot on May 07, 2008, 05:47:53 AM
What I liked about Echoes is that it was soo dark.
It was soo thrilling everytime you had to enter a new part of the Ing dimension!
Haha, the boss I goy most stucked with in Echoes, was Quadraxis!
And Echoes was somewhat more "mystic"... And the feeling that Samus was all alone in a savaged world... or is she..? B)
And I think the Echoes world (planet Aether) is the most beautiful and most interessting to explore!
The music's also great!
And a revolution was that this time, one could acctually see Samus's feelings!
That she really is a human, and not some freaking droid!


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Post by: Flathead770 on May 08, 2008, 01:07:38 AM
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It may seem a little impossible, but let me share a little trick with you. There is a way to get the Space Boots right at the start of the planet. You simply get on top of the ship and go as far back as you can without falling off. Now, scan at an object that ends up being too far away for you to get data from. After that, jump backwards and, right at the highest point, get out of the scan screen. If timed right, you'll activate a glitch that will cause Samus to jump higher and farther, thus just barely landing on the cliff. From there, just head down the path until you reach the Space Boots.
Ya i know about that, haven't tried it yet. In fact, i just picked the game up again after about 4 years. I was talking about MP3, i beat it in 14 hours 100%, first runthrough of the game.
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It may sound simple, but it is VERY tricky to pull off. Remember, practice makes perfect. Keep trying until you can get it. Then, keep reseting and redoing it until you can get it on the first try. Just keep it up. You'll get it eventually.
I won't be attemping that for a while. Got enough to worry about on Super Metroid...stuck on Ridley on my 14% run. I also should get back on trying to do the speed run for Zero Mission, my current record is 38:35.
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Hey flathead...I know it's been some time but....do you have my friend token yet?! I still haven't received your one so I was wondering if you'd got mine yet!
Last time i checked, no... :lol . Don't think its gonna happen :bang .
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Post by: Flathead770 on May 08, 2008, 09:06:41 PM
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Good luck, because even I have yet to pull this off, and I tried SO many times.
I spent some time on it today, and i was able to pull it off. It took me about a half-hour of trying, but i got it. If you want proof, heres (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6535774612149602360) a quick video of me getting the space jump after i got up. Try getting to Phantoon in Super Metroid without the Grapple Beam or Speed Boosters, i spent hours trying to do that.

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The time is less then 4 hours and 30 minutes.
I checked and the time for 100% is 1:24.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on May 08, 2008, 11:40:02 PM
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Good luck, because even I have yet to pull this off, and I tried SO many times.
I spent some time on it today, and i was able to pull it off. It took me about a half-hour of trying, but i got it. If you want proof, heres (http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=6535774612149602360) a quick video of me getting the space jump after i got up. Try getting to Phantoon in Super Metroid without the Grapple Beam or Speed Boosters, i spent hours trying to do that.

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The time is less then 4 hours and 30 minutes.
I checked and the time for 100% is 1:24.
Good job pulling it off! ^^

Oh, and the time you found is the World Record Time.  4:30 is what's recommended by many expert level players. :)
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Post by: Flathead770 on May 09, 2008, 01:19:56 AM
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Oh, and the time you found is the World Record Time. 4:30 is what's recommended by many expert level players
Heh, ya i don't think i'll be pulling of no 1:30 :lol . Im gonna make sure i copy my file to another memory card, so i don't have to keep re-doing that. I guess shooting for under 5 hours will be my goal this summer.

BTW, i had to use the PAL version of getting up there cause the game i borrowed from my friend is the Player's choice one and they took that little glitch out. The PAL version actually seems easier to pull off.
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Post by: pokeplayer984 on May 09, 2008, 02:06:58 AM
Quote from: Flathead770,May 8 2008 on  10:19 PM
BTW, i had to use the PAL version of getting up there cause the game i borrowed from my friend is the Player's choice one and they took that little glitch out. The PAL version actually seems easier to pull off.
Hmm, maybe that's my problem.  I'm not sure if mine is a PAL version or not.  However, I'm sure it's not because the ONLY way I can seem to pull it off is by using Action Replay and turning ON the Space Boots cheat.  After getting them, I simply save in the ship, turn off the game, take out the Action Replay Memory card, turn the game back on and then continue it normally.

Oh, and it's not just getting the Space Boots early that helps, but getting other items early as well.  Not to mention waiting until the perfect moment to get other items.  After all, having to backtrack is a HUGE hassle and takes up ALOT of time.  The true Speed Challenge allows you to get ALL the items with as little backtracking as possible.

I'm not entirely sure on the order of the items, but GameFAQs.com would be a good place to start looking. ;)
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Post by: Flathead770 on May 20, 2008, 01:23:16 AM
ya, i saw some of the stuff they do, getting plasma, ice beams and gravity suit before fighting Tharudas and such. Anyways im not gonna pull off a speed run just yet, im going through the game slowly, enjoying the game as much as possible.
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Post by: Littlefoot1616 on April 11, 2009, 05:52:18 AM
Anyone still into the Metroid Prime series will be pleased to know that Nintendo have announced that Prime 1 and 2 will be reconfiged for the Wii! In line with their Gamecube-Wii conversion titles like Mario Power Tennis and Pikmin, MP 1 and 2 are going to be fitted with the MP 3 control interface and re-released on Wii. I dunno myself, I'm a fan of the Prime series but I've already got them for GC and the games work just fine (except #2 is 60Hz only and my TV is too old to run at 60Hz :lol). I'm questioning whether it's worth getting them again just for the control mechs... :confused I guess the biggest influencial factor for me will be the pricing. If it's any more than say 20 quid, I doubt I'll get it...
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Post by: NeoGenesis005 on April 11, 2009, 06:27:43 PM
Metriod Prime was Sweet but I never had my hands on the others for the Wii.
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Post by: Flathead770 on April 13, 2009, 12:09:53 AM
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Anyone still into the Metroid Prime series will be pleased to know that Nintendo have announced that Prime 1 and 2 will be reconfiged for the Wii! In line with their Gamecube-Wii conversion titles like Mario Power Tennis and Pikmin, MP 1 and 2 are going to be fitted with the MP 3 control interface and re-released on Wii. I dunno myself, I'm a fan of the Prime series but I've already got them for GC and the games work just fine (except #2 is 60Hz only and my TV is too old to run at 60Hz dino_laugh.gif). I'm questioning whether it's worth getting them again just for the control mechs... dino_confused.gif I guess the biggest influencial factor for me will be the pricing. If it's any more than say 20 quid, I doubt I'll get it...
Yea i heard about that. I'll probably end up getting MP1 because i don't actually own it, my brother does, and he took it with him. If i end up loving MP1 enough with the new controls, i might have to get echoes as well.
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Post by: Flathead770 on May 26, 2009, 11:34:00 PM
so new news regarding the Metroid Prime remakes. It turns out that a trilogy pack is going to be released near the end of August in North America for $50 USD, with both Prime 1 and 2 having the updated controls. I'm still unsure on whether or not im going to buy it or not, but i like the idea of not having to buy 2 separate games for MP1 and 2.
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Post by: Flathead770 on June 02, 2009, 02:58:12 PM
So a while back i said that after MP3, i was afraid there might be another metroid drought (where theres no metroid game for a long period of time. Last one was 8 years in between Super Metroid and Metroid Prime). Thankfully i'm wrong as Nintendo announced a new Metroid game comming in 2010 this morning at E3. A found a video on youtube that has the trailer for it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYi1foGfgpY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYi1foGfgpY)
I wasn't really to sure what the game was at first when watching the trailer until one of the people said "Any objections lady?". Anyone whos played Metroid Fusion will understand. It looks like the game itself will be set when Samus first gets her power suit, it also looks like theres a seen with mother brain shooting the hyper beam from Super Metroid, but i could be mistaken.

So whats your thoughts about this?
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 29, 2009, 01:44:50 PM
So a couple days ago, i bought Metroid Prime Trilogy and i just recently beat Metroid Prime. Despite beating the game over 5 times, i actually had lots of fun playing through it again, especially with the wii controls. Also, to my surprise, there has been quite a bit of minor changes to the game. Heres all the changes that i noticed:

-Log Book: The creatures list seems to be a bit more organized (with bosses down at the bottom of the list). Also, some of the pirate logs have been removed, most noticeably, the one called "Metroid Prime". The log stated that the Pirates found Metroid Prime somewhere in the mines, eventually captured it and studied it. It later got away. The reason why i never understood this log was because the chozo locked it in the cradle (impact crater). So how did it get out, and more importantly, how did it get back in? So i guess Retro removed it due to inconsistency. Also, in the options menu, the gamecube has been switched to a wii, for obvious reasons.

-The door to the plasma beam has rubble in front of it and needs to be destroyed by a power bomb. Im guessing this has to do with the sequence breaks that ive seen, where you would be able to get the Ice, Plasma, and gravity suit early (before even fighting Thardus).

-A very minor change, in one room in magmoor caverns, some of those fire turret things have been switched around.

-After the Omega Pirate has been defeated, the surrounding areas now have Fission Metroids (instead of having Fission Metroids only in the impact crater).

-Meta Ridley: Perhaps my favorite change, is that they gave ridley a couple more attacks. Now when he stomps the ground throughout the fight, his feet will light on fire and causing a shock wave to emit when he lands, it either needs to be jumped, or be far enough back. Also, when he is at 1/4 health and is stuck on the ground, he will sometimes jump into the air and land towards you, causing the shock wave. He will also sweep the area with his flame breath (twice when he starts to get lower health). And lastly, the time interval that he keeps his mouth open before his charge attack has been reduced, probably beacuse of the aim-free lock system thats been implemented. I actually found Ridley to be harder then Metroid Prime now, i ended up losing 4 energy tanks in that fight, and that wasn't even on hard! (i usually only lose 2 energy tanks on hard). If anyone wants, i was thinking on making a video of this fight, to show you the changes.

-Metroid Prime: very small change. Some of the ruts that you need to morph ball in the escape his charge attack have been removed. Subchamber 3 now has the middle one removed, and subchamber 4 only has the middle rut.

Thats all the changes that ive found when playing though the game, now im on to Metroid Prime 2.

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Post by: jedi472 on August 29, 2009, 04:21:40 PM
I'm thinking about getting the Metroid Prime trilogy, even though I own the first two on Gamecube. Is it worth it?
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Post by: Belmont2500 on August 29, 2009, 06:10:30 PM
I enjoy the Metroid series almost as much as Zelda I've played a handful of the 2D games and enjoyed them although I didn't like Fusion so much since it was a bit linear and I love the Prime trilogy I only own Metroid Prime 1 but I've rented Metroid Prime 2 and 3 and they rock.
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Post by: Flathead770 on August 30, 2009, 02:14:08 AM
Quote from: jedi472,Aug 29 2009 on  02:21 PM
I'm thinking about getting the Metroid Prime trilogy, even though I own the first two on Gamecube. Is it worth it?
do you own the 3rd one? if you don't, then its a definite yes, as its the same price as the 3rd one, plus you get the other 2, with wii controls, which is awesome. I guess it all depends on how much you love the games. I've beaten all 3 games at least 5 times and im still having fun playing through them again.

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enjoy the Metroid series almost as much as Zelda I've played a handful of the 2D games and enjoyed them although I didn't like Fusion so mush since it was a bit linear
Yea, I absolutely love the Metroid series. I even like it more then zelda (though its really close). I agree with Metroid Fusion being to linear, Super Metroid I believe is the best metroid game, with metroid prime coming 2nd.

Anyways, if your a really big metroid fan, then I highly recommend the game, even if you've played them before.

*Random Metroid Fact* the original concept for the NES Metroid was the combination of both Mario and Zelda. It had the platforming elements of mario, with the open world design of zelda.
Title: Metroid (all)
Post by: Belmont2500 on September 06, 2009, 09:16:50 PM
I just saw the trailer for Metroid Other M ,it was epic.
Title: Re: Metroid (all)
Post by: Flathead770 on August 20, 2021, 03:52:55 PM
I just saw the trailer for Metroid Other M ,it was epic.
I too fell for this trap  :bestsharptooth Then again, I was also excited that Metroid was't going back to the drought days of the 8 years between Super Metroid and Metroid Fusion/Prime. Turns out it was after this game we would have to wait 7 more years for Samus Returns to get released.
That being said, the main gripes I had with the game are with how the story was executed, given that Sakamoto had complete control, and clearly not much experience, over the writing and voice direction. On a high/conceptual level the story seemed like it could actually be interesting. Also doesn't help that Samus says "baby" like 500 times  :PLoofah




Anyways, randomly deciding to revive this topic due to Metroid Dread almost releasing (still feels weird to say after all those rumours back in the day haha). I really enjoyed Samus Returns. The melee counter was pretty neat and allowed enemies to be way more aggressive, and the boss fights, particularly the Metroid Queen, were some of the best 2D Metroid bosses that I can recall playing. Glad to see all of that coming back in this game.

I'm also happy that the story is going the way I hoped after seeing the secret lore picture at the end of Samus Returns with the Chozo killing off one of the leaders and leaving SR388. When I saw that I thought it would be cool to have a follow up game involving that bad Chozo, and that seems to be what we're getting with this game. Also cool to finally see a sequel to Fusion too (plus that new suit does look pretty cool).

Last noticeable point is that in the Dread Report Vol. 4 (https://metroid.nintendo.com/news/metroid-dread-report-vol-4/), it mentions this:
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The Super Metroid game can be said to offer the greatest flexibility for exploration in the series. You can enjoy similar flexibility in the Metroid Dread game, depending on how you take advantage of your abilities. You might be able to find ways to obtain weapons, items, and abilities earlier than the intended timing. We encourage you to try to discover alternate routes of exploration.
That alone got me pretty hyped, and even if it ends up not being as crazy as Super Metroid in terms of sequence breaking, I'll take anything I can get haha.

So is anyone else looking forward to playing this?