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The Party Room / The "Would You Rather" Game!
« on: September 12, 2013, 09:15:46 PM »
I don't care for either of them, but in the interests of bumping this thread, Twilight, so that I could see what all the fuss was about, and subsequently tear it apart with critique without being accused of complaining about a book I haven't read. :p

Would you rather that every time you left your house you had to wear a live duck on your head or a pair of small live chickens on your shoulders? :P: :wacko

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Saurus Rock: Member Hall of Fame / Awards 2013 winners
« on: September 12, 2013, 11:08:54 AM »
Congratulations Ducky123 and Mumbling, you broke my three-year winning streak! :D

Seriously, I'm glad to see other members winning the Feedback and Helpful Member Awards for a change. :) As grateful as I am for every award nomination that has ever come my way, I was getting self-conscious about winning both of those awards over and over again so many times.

Though I'm not sure whether I'll be displaying it in my signature (despite your assurances, Malte, I personally don't feel comfortable showcasing a runner-up award without somehow marking it is such), I guess I'll take this as my runner-up banner for the Feedback Award:


Congratulations to all winners, and thanks to everyone who participated in the voting and otherwise made the 2013 GOF Awards possible. :smile

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Land Before Time Captions / Hungry Dil
« on: September 12, 2013, 03:45:46 AM »
Dil REALLY hates mimes. :p

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Land Before Time Captions / Ichy hates Mondays
« on: September 12, 2013, 03:28:03 AM »
Dil: “Oh, sorry Ichy, did I get you mixed up with the featherduster again?”

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The Welcome Center / Long time no see?
« on: September 11, 2013, 05:54:06 PM »
Quote from: babidikrakenguard,Sep 11 2013 on  04:43 PM
Righto!

... Remind me not to try pronouncing that, because my tongue gets twisted in knots... :DD
It's not that bad, as far as scientific names go: "LISS-troh-SORE-us". (Maybe I should think about adding the pronunciation to my signature… :unsure:)

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I feel bad about sorta... Fading off like that; I definitely had no intention on leaving, but things just sorta... Piled up on me. :unsure:
Don't worry about it. To a lesser extent, that sort of thing happened to me, too; I was off the GOF for months at a time. And I don't have the excuse of real life making it hard to find time for the forum; I was just in a rut.

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Trying to get all that off my mind... By posting PIXELS! :p
Oooooh…pixels! :DD

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The Welcome Center / Long time no see?
« on: September 11, 2013, 05:39:59 PM »
Quote from: babidikrakenguard,Sep 11 2013 on  03:57 PM
Pangy! Geez, how long has it been? You've still got Vampire-Spike as your avatar!  :DD
I spontaneously cackled out loud when I read that comment. :lol I'd forgotten all about that in-joke.

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I know you told me about the critter, but I forgot what it was called. :DD
It's a Lystrosaurus, a late Permian–early Triassic dicynodont that was a ubiquitous inhabitant of the supercontinent Pangaea. (I now have a short blurb in my signature to tell people what it is. ;))

Again, it's wonderful to see that you've returned. :smile

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LBT Fanart / Artwork by MURMUR
« on: September 11, 2013, 05:02:36 PM »
This picture is magnificent! :wow The sunrise is gorgeous; I love the gradually diffusing rays of light spanning the sky, and the red glow cast across the landscape. And I love the color pallete; to me it's reminiscent of the original Land Before Time, giving a nostalgic sense to the picture. You also did a fantastic job drawing Ducky; I love the simple, thoughtful expression.

I'll hold off on the constructive criticism for now, since I honestly have very little of it, and I don't know how you feel about my style of critique. In any case, I really hope to see more pictures like this from you. :)

Also, sorry to hear you're depressed, MurMur. :( I hope you feel better soon.

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Real-Life Captions / Scary Tree
« on: September 09, 2013, 05:11:09 PM »
Sorry, I can’t resist making another MLP:FiM reference: :P:

The good news is, after twenty-four hours of observation, I can tell you for certain that that tree is completely harmless; its ghoulish appearance is merely a random product of its growth.

The bad news is, I lost my voice after spending twenty-four hours following Pinkie Pie’s advice on how to get rid of ghostly trees.

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Real-Life Captions / Moose Road Sign
« on: September 09, 2013, 04:53:41 PM »
HANDICAPPED PARKING ONLY. ALL OTHERS WILL BE TOWED AND DONATED TO THE “TOYS FOR MOOSE” FOUNDATION.

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Real-Life Captions / Bundle Of Fun
« on: September 09, 2013, 04:38:20 PM »
"Yarrr…I be Cap'n Fluffnugget, fearsomest pirate on the Tibetan Plateau! And I ask ye…WHO TOOK ME BLOODY HAT?!" :anger

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Land Before Time Captions / Ichy hates Mondays
« on: September 09, 2013, 04:27:53 PM »
Oh man, this image kills me every time. :lol :spit

A mercifully brief series of product trials quickly rejected bellydragger saliva as a recommended conditioner.

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Land Before Time Captions / One of those days...
« on: September 09, 2013, 04:18:19 PM »
Unbeknownst to history, Petrie actually invented the first steamroller in the year 80,198,813 B.C.E.…and, shortly after the first test drive, destroyed the prototype and all his blueprints so that no one else would try to repeat his experiment.

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The Written Word / The Dinosaur Legacy
« on: September 09, 2013, 05:36:49 AM »
Sorry for taking so much longer to post here than intended. :oops

First off, let me say that I am impressed by the number and variety of obscure Mesozoic genera you have listed here. :wow I am definitely curious as to how you plan to have all these different creatures interact, and so I absolutely think that you should post your envisioned synopses for the episodes. :yes I might also suggest adding brief descriptions of what the animals on this list are (e.g., “Diamantinasaurus: titanosaurian sauropod”, “Onchopristis: sawfish”, “Hollanda: ground-foraging predatory bird”), for the benefit of members who are unfamiliar with most of them, and would otherwise have to look them up one by one.

Just a few disclaimers concerning the validity of certain cast members:
  • Nemicolopterus (from Episode 6) is probably a juvenile pterosaur, quite possibly a flapling (hatchling) of the tapejarid genus Sinopterus.
  • In Episode 11 (Vancouver), Monoclonius would probably be better substituted with Centrosaurus, or any one or more of the numerous ceratopsian species that have been revealed in recent years (Coronosaurus, Albertaceratops, Spinops, Xenoceratops, Vagaceratops, etc.). Monoclonius is a genus based on incomplete remains that probably came from a subadult; it is very likely that it is the same as some other, better-known centrosaurine, but paleontologists aren’t sure which one.
  • Bruhathkayosaurus (Episode 13) is sadly known from very poorly catalogued material (it may even have been misidentified petrified wood), and what’s worse, all known remains were lost in a monsoon :cry (More information here and here). Given the dubious nature of the taxon, you may not want to include it.
Though I can’t say for certain, given that I haven’t seen your synopses yet, I think you might have a few too many similar dinosaurs in some episodes (You have so many animals listed that I don’t think I can cover them all right now). For example, I would personally recommend against using both Oviraptor and Citipati in Episodes 15 and 16, as the two were very similar, and Oviraptor is actually known from poorer fossil material than Citipati (a shame, because I hate the latter’s name :rolleyes). If you wanted to have a diversity of oviraptorosaurs, here’s
here’s a comparative guide to oviraptorids consisting of portraits of species and individual specimens from which skull material is known, and here is one list of all currently accepted oviraptorosaur genera and species (The site, Thescelosaurus, is one of my most oft-referenced dinosaur Web resources, though it is by no means the only source one should use). The same goes for Conchoraptor and “Ingenia”, Tarbosaurus and Zhuchengtyrannus, and Nanshiungosaurus and Therizinosaurus.

There’s a related problem in Episode 12. To me it seems like overkill to have Aucasaurus, Abelisaurus, Aerosteon, Austroraptor, and Carnotaurus in the same episode; that’s a lot of large carnivores in one place. For that matter, while Aucasaurus and Abelisaurus are both known from the early Campanian-age Rio Colorado Formation, Carnotaurus is from the Gorro Frigio Formation, which dates to the later Maastrichtian stage, and (As for Aerosteon, some sources I find say that it dates from the Santonian, while at least one states that it is early Campanian).

On that note, I can’t help but notice that most of your episodes contain several genera that were not native to the location and/or time of the setting (Again, it would take a long time to point out all of them). It can be reasoned that we do not know the complete extent of any one Mesozoic animal’s range (in either time or space), and that some of their ranges might conceivably have overlapped even if there is no hard evidence of it. However, some of the genera in the episodes are rather widely separated in the fossil record, and it probably wouldn’t be accurate to feature them living in that time and place. For example, Episode 1’s Herrerasaurus, Eoraptor, and Pisanosaurus are all from the Ischigualasto Formation, which was about the same age as the Santa Maria Formation, which yielded Staurikosaurus. So it's plausible that all four of them could have encountered one another, but Riojasaurus and Fasolasauchus  are both from the Los Colorados Formation, which is several million years younger.

An even more problematic example may be Episodes 15 and 16: it seems that Citipati, Conchoraptor, Hollanda, Oviraptor, Protoceratops, Saurornithoides, Shuuvuia, and Velociraptor were all from the Campanian stage; so far as we know, they were not even around 66 million years ago. In fact, according to the aforementioned Thescelosaurus site, Charonosaurus, Kerberosaurus, and
Olorititan are the only dinosaurs listed for those episodes of which fossils are known from the end of the Maastrichtian. (If the site’s data is accurate, Alectrosaurus, Bagaceratops, Gallimimus, Gigantoraptor, “Ingenia” (possibly), Nanshiungosaurus, Nemegtosaurus, Shantungosaurus, Sinoceratops, Tarbosaurus, Tarchia, Therizinosaurus, and Zhuchengtyrannus all lived during the early Maastrichtian, at least, so it’s possible that at least some of them survived to the very end, but I can’t say that with any scientific certainty.)

I noticed a few misspelled names (many probably the result of simple typos); here are all that I could find:
  • “Hudeisaurus” > Hudiesaurus
  • Rhamphorhynchus > “Rhamphorynchus”
  • “Pelicanimimus” > Pelecanimimus (I remember how I used to misspell that one “Pelecanmimus” :lol)
  • “Caukilocephalus” > Caulkicephalus
  • “Europajara” > Europejara
  • “Dakodon” >Dakotadon
  • “Insicivosaurus” > Incisivosaurus
  • “Dusngripterus” > Dsungaripterus
  • “Atlascopsosaurus” > Atlascopcosaurus
  • “Muttaburasaurus” > Muttaburrasaurus
  • “Gaspirinasaura” > Gasparinisaura
  • “Azdarcho” > Azhdarcho
  • “Dromicieomimus” > Dromiceiomimus
  • “Appalchiasaurus” > Appalachiosaurus
  • “Beezlebufo” > Beelzebufo
  • “Madstoia” > Madtsoia (the prehistoric animal equivalent of the word “fuchsia” if ever there was one, as far as I’m concerned; :p I'd be impressed by anyone who could spell that damn name right without looking it up and studying it carefully :rolleyes:)
  • “Hatzegopertyx” > Hatzegopteryx
  • “Bradycme” > Bradycneme
  • “Shangtungosaurus” > Shantungosaurus
I have a few suggestions for other creatures you could potentially add to your episodes to round out the ecosystems:
  • Episode 1: If you decide to drop Riojasaurus and Fasolasuchus so as to have a period-accurate faunal assemblage, perhaps you could replace them with the prosauropod Unaysaurus, and the giant rauisuchian Saurosuchus. I would also suggest filling out the ecosystem with animals such as the rhynchosaur Hyperodapedon (a herbivorous reptile whose front teeth were modified into a vaguely owlish beak), the crocodile-like proterochampsid archosaur Chanaresuchus, the large amphibian Pelorocephalus, and the cynodont Exaeretodon.
  • Episode 2: The big-headed, weaselishly-proportioned herbivorous cynodont Oligokyphus.
  • Episode 3: The bizarre ceratosaur Limusaurus.
  • Episode 6: The bristly heterodontosaurid Tianyulong (though this may be unnecessary if you imagine Heterodontosaurus as being similar); the log-necked, long-billed pterosaur Moganopterus; and the real Beipiaosaurus: the “Sumo Porcupine Goose of Doom” (take that, yellow bellies! :lol).
  • Episode 7: More crocodylomorphs! :D: Namely, the giant, flat-skulled, pelicanesque-headed Stomatosuchus, and the small, duck-faced Anatosuchus. Also, to give your giant piscivores a wider menu, might I recommend adding the freshwater coelacanth Mawsonia gigas, the lungfish Neoceratodus tuberculatus, the bichir Bawtius, and the little hybodont shark Lonchidion?
  • Episode 11 (Vancouver): The tiny dromaeosaurid Hesperonychus. And although you have alvarezsaurids in two other episodes, in case you decided to drop one of them, I don’t think anyone has used Albertonykus in a dinosaur documentary before.
There’s one other opinion that I’d like to share: I seriously think that you should consider making more episodes set in the Triassic period. Of all the stages in the Mesozoic, it's the one that gets the least attention; I've never seen a dinosaur series that spent more than one episode on it, and I have a hard time naming any dinosaur movie featuring species from the Triassic. I'm guessing it's because there were relatively few dinosaurs in that period, and they had not yet attained the great diversity of forms they are famous for. To me, it’s that the Triassic is such an ignored period, because it is a treasure trove of extraordinary creatures:
  • Lotosaurus, a herbivorous(!) rauisuchian (shocking since most known rauisuchians, like Postosuchus and Fasolasauchus, were carnivores) with a short, beaky head and a sail or ridge down its back (Middle Triassic China).
  • Closely related to the above, the sail-backed Dimetrodon expy Arizonasaurus (Moenkepi Formation, western U.S., 240 MYA).
  • Silesaurus a lanky quadrupedal herbivore that looked something like a cross between a basal ornithischian and a sauropodomorph, though it was probably not a true dinosaur, but a dinosauriform (it lived in Poland, 230 MYA, but apparently had a close relative from Brazil, Sacisaurus, that you could reasonably use in Episode 1).
  • The impossibly long-necked Tanystropheus (Besano Formation, Italy, ~232 MYA)
  • The placodonts, a group of shellfish-eating marine reptiles that included the tubby, buck-toothed Placodus (Europe and China, ~240 MYA); the turtle-like, bizarrely square-faced Henodus (Germany, ~235 MYA); and Placochelys, another turtle-like placodont with a narrow beak and a shell covered in scutes.
  • Gerrothorax, an extremely flat, three-foot long amphibian that spent its entire life in the water, with feathery gills, a strange semicircular skull, and jaws that could rapidly open to literally vacuum fish and other aquatic prey into its gullet (Late Triassic Europe and Greenland, 210 MYA).
  • Hupehsuchus, a toothless, armor-plated, three-foot-long marine reptile that looked something like a finless basal ichthyosaur, with broad flipper-like limbs that apparently contained more than the usual five digits (Early/Middle Triassic, Daye Formation, China).
  • From the Zorzino Limestone of Italy (210 MYA): Drepanosaurus, a reptile like a burly chameleon with a massive hooked talon on each forefoot and a grasping claw on its tail, and its smaller relative Megalancosaurus, which had even more chameleon-like grasping forefeet, a birdlike head, and also a hook on the end of its tail; Saurichthys, a toothy, beaky-jawed, three-foot-long predatory fish that, judging by a fossil of regurgitated gastric pellet attributed (albeit not certainly) to this species, may have occasionally eaten small pterosaurs; the gharial-like phytosaur Mystriosuchus; and Psephoderma, a beaky, flat-bodied, long-tailed placodont with a large carapace on its back and a smaller one over its hips (making it look peculiarly like a reptilian horseshoe crab).
  • Odontochelys, a toothed turtle with a plastron (bottom shell) but no carapace (China, 220 MYA).
  • Caviramus filisuriensis (formerly Raeticodactylus), a spectacular-looking pterosaur with a specialized jaw that may have enabled it to crudely chew its food (Switzerland, 210 MYA and later).
  • Mastodonsaurus, a predatory amphibian that could supposedly reach 13–20 feet in length, with a pair of fangs in its lower jaw that protruded through holes in its snout when its mouth was shut (Anisian–early Carnian stage, Europe and Russia).
  • The awesomely named Thalattoarchon saurophagisó“Lizard-Eating Ruler of the Seas”óa 28-foot long basal ichthyosaur (western U.S., 244 MYA).
  • Nicrosaurus, a phytosaur with a snout shaped something like an upside-down cleaver (Nova Scotia, Europe).
  • The sphenosuchians, tiny, slender terrestrial crocodylomorphs, some of which may have been at least partially bipedal (worldwide, 225 MYA and later).
  • Hypsognathus, a herbivorous lizard-like procolophonid that looked as if it was wearing sideburns made of spikes :lol (Newark Supergroup, eastern U.S. and Canada, 210–201 MYA?)
  • From the Middle Triassic Madygen Formation of Kyrgyzstan: the titanopterans, giant insects related to grasshoppers with wingspans of up to a foot and who shared their relatives' ability to produce sound through stridulation the "delta-winged" gliding reptile Sharovipteryx; and Longisquama, a tiny reptile that sported a series of tall vanelike structures running down its back.
  • From the Late Triassic Chinle Formation of the western United States (225–220 MYA): Vancleavea, a bizarre aquatic reptile resembling a cross between a moray eel and Ray Harryhausen’s “Rhedosaurus” from the film The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms; Doswellia, a seven-foot-long, armor-plated predatory archosauriform that, to me at least, looked something like a stretched-out reptilian dachshund; :lol the giantópossibly up to 40’ longócrocodile-like phytosaur Smilosuchus; the tiny bipedal dinosauromorph Dromomeron; the wide-bodied aetosaur Typothorax and its spiky-shouldered relative Desmatosuchus; the herbivorous archosaur Revueltosaurus; the ten-foot-long metoposaur amphibian Koskinodon; the freshwater coelacanth Chinlea; and the eel-like freshwater shark Xenacanthus. (This is also where Effigia was discovered.)
I think that’s all the feedback I have time to give right now. (It took me about two days to compose all of this, and it's still far from what I would consider a complete appraisal. :wacko) I hope at least some of it is helpful. :)

P.S. Just a cautionary tip: when searching for information on obscure Triassic reptiles, avoid the site ReptileEvolution.com, and any other sources by the independent researcher David Peters (including the Longisquama skeletal reconstructions on Wikipedia). Short explanation: the site is not a trustworthy source of accurate scientific information (this judgment comes from experienced, qualified scientific researchers, not from me). See here for the full explanation.

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The Party Room / Dinosaurs vs. Dragons!
« on: September 07, 2013, 07:07:53 PM »
Quote from: jansenov,Sep 7 2013 on  03:08 AM
If both dragons and dinosaurs were subjected to rules of our world, the Square Cube Law and the tensile strength of calcium carbonate and calcium phosphate would limit a flying dragon's weight on Earth's surface to that of a dog. On a planet or moon with much weaker gravity and much denser atmosphere, a dragon could reach the weight of a horse.
I think a flying dragon could probably get bigger than that, depending on its body plan. The largest pterosaurs (giant azhdarchids like Quetzalcoatlus) are estimated to have weighed 440–550 pounds (200–250 kg). That being said, the body plans of many (perhaps most) well-known fantasy dragons would be physically incapable of flight in real life, if their bodies could be sustained by physics at all. (On that note, I think most of the really formidable dragons in fiction would probably be severely depowered, crippled, or outright killed by an application of real-world physics; another argument in favor of dinosaurs coming out on top in this scenario.)

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Under mythological or fantasy rules any outcome is possible.
That's the problem I have with this kind of match-up. Being fictional creatures, there are no set standards for what dragons look like, how big they get, what their abilities are, etc., so pretty much any scenario where a dragon is pitted against a dinosaur is going to be a thrown fight. If it's Smaug from The Hobbit or the "queen" from How To Train Your Dragon against any dinosaur, it's an unfair fight. Not to mention that you have hundreds of species to choose from to represent the dinosaurs' side, not all of which would be particularly suited for fighting a dragon: HTTYD's six-foot-long "Terrible Terror" could be easily crushed by a Stegosaurus, but would probably flambÈ a little Epidexipteryx without much resistance.

Basically, dinosaurs are constrained by reality in terms of size, power, and other factors that would help them in a battle. With dragons, the sky's the limit. If you pick the most powerful dragon to go up against the most powerful dinosaur, it's a grossly unfair fight for the dinosaur. If you pick a weak dragon to go up against a powerful dinosaur, you're deliberately tipping the scales in the dinosaur's favor (That's how I see it, anyway). To me, there's really no version of a dinosaurs vs. dragons battle that could be called fair.

Just a thought I had: in a parallel universe, do you suppose dinosaurs and/or dragons ponder over hypothetical battles between humans, like cops vs. firemen, bums vs. hobos, or drunks vs. stoners? :p

P.S. Sorry, I don't mean to ruin anyone else's fun. Just stating my views on this subject.

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The Party Room / Dinosaurs vs. Dragons!
« on: September 06, 2013, 08:50:58 PM »
Dragons don't exist, so dinosaurs would win by default. :p

If your definition of "dragon" extends to real creatures that are called by that name, then it depends on the dinosaur and it depends on the dragon. Komodo dragons regularly kill animals as large as deer and wild pigs (For larger prey like water buffalo, they apparently have to inflict wounds, then wait for the animal to succumb to a septic infection picked up in its own swimming hole). So it's no stretch for a Komodo dragon to bring down a small dinosaur (maybe a couple of hundred pounds), or even a small-medium-sized dinosaur if it took a bite, then ran away and waited a few days while the dinosaur took a bath in a stagnant waterhole. But, being an ambush predator, I think any Komodo dragon with a lick of sense would opt to forfeit rather than take on a Protoceratops, a Dryosaurus, or any dinosaur capable of dealing it a damaging bite or kick in a Super Smash Bros.-style face-to-face brawl. And even in an ambush scenario, I doubt a Komodo dragon would chance attacking an adult Ceratosaurus, Triceratops, or Ankylosaurus. If it did, it would probably end badly for the dragon.

The Komodo is the largest and most dangerous real-life "dragon" I know of; bearded dragons, flying dragons, weedy and leafy sea dragons, and dragonets would probably fare far worse in any gladiator-style confrontation with a dinosaur.

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Saurus Rock: Member Hall of Fame / Appreciated Member Award voting 2013
« on: August 31, 2013, 10:55:51 PM »
Good grief. Has the decision for the Appreciated Member Award ever been this tough? :blink: (Probably yes; I just can’t remember it. :p) All of these people have . Jansenov is an invaluable contributor to countless discussions. Pterano is unfailingly kind and supportive even when he is enduring adversity in his own personal life. Cancerian Tiger is an admirable role model and all-around great person. LBTDiclonius is surely the most polite, fair-minded, and good-natured “monster with horns” I have ever known. :P: Littlefoot1616 is one of the nicest people I can imagine having as an admin (his only competitors for this superlative being the GOF’s other admins :p). Most of the other candidates I do not know so well, :oops but have great respect for them and their contributions to the forum nonetheless.

My final decision for the Appreciated Member Award is a member who is a good friend of mine; one who has probably been on this forum longer than anyone else on this list save for Littlefoot1616 (nearly six years!), and yet in all that time has never received so much as a runner-up banner in any of the main award categories. Polite and welcoming, never confrontational, infinitely patient (especially when it comes to waiting for fanfiction feedback from me :oops), consistently active, posts sparingly but puts a lot of thought into what he says, this is a member who lies low, but contributes to the forum immensely. I think it is high time that The Chronicler be chronicled in the GOF Member Hall of Fame. ;)

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The Welcome Center / Hi
« on: August 29, 2013, 09:18:09 AM »
Welcome to The Gang Of Five, Danosaur! :smile (Great choice of username, by the way. :lol)

Like Malte, I always love seeing a new member gives such a thorough introduction to themselves and their interests. :DD I too assure you that your introduction was very well done. :smile

Enjoy yourself on the forum! Just ask if you need help finding anything or understanding how anything works. :angel

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The Party Room / The Person Above Me
« on: August 28, 2013, 01:57:40 AM »
The person above me has an avatar of deoxyribonucleic acid…in space! :D

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The Party Room / The Person Above Me
« on: August 27, 2013, 05:58:23 PM »
The person above me apparently appreciates avuncular animated anatines and anserines. :smile

(Sorry, I couldn't resist the opportunity to alliterate. :angel Anatines and anserines are ducks and geese, respectively; "avuncular" pertains to uncles.)

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The Fridge / My Dog passed away
« on: August 27, 2013, 12:45:17 AM »
I'm so sorry, Nick. :cry It's an awful thing to lose a pet. I'm sure that whatever circumstances forced you to put Chloe to sleep, it was the most humane thing to do. Take all the time you need to grieve, my friend. Hope you feel better soon. :)

On a potentially relevant note, it is my opinion that, if you ever think about getting a new pet, you should never feel guilty, like you are replacing Chloe; a new pet only adds to a family; it will never supplant the memory of a departed pet. A beloved pet, like a beloved family member, is a unique, irreplaceable individual. :wub


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