The Gang of Five

The Land Before Time => 1988 Theatrical Release => Topic started by: Flathead on November 25, 2010, 08:22:23 PM

Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Flathead on November 25, 2010, 08:22:23 PM
I was searching for general books and reviews on the internet about the LBT when I came upon this:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25665 (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=25665)

Scroll down to the part about the Land before time film and his book, according to William Stout, the Land before time storyline was heavily influenced by his children’s book. I’ve managed to find the book on eBay, and I would say that there are certain scenes in the book which may have been an influence on the film, but I wouldn’t say that the LBT film ripped of the book in terms of storyline apart from the fact that both main protagonists want to get back to their herd. I could post pictures of the children’s book, but I don’t know about the issue over copyright, I do know that it’s been out of print for a long time.


(http://i793.photobucket.com/albums/yy212/Flathead123/stoutlittlebluebronto.jpg)
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 25, 2010, 08:36:55 PM
Is that stegosaurus a character?
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Animeboye on November 27, 2010, 01:59:24 AM
Hmm...Yeah I can see a bit of Littlefoot in that character. I wonder if they have it at Borders or Barnes & Noble?
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Zenoah on November 27, 2010, 04:26:50 PM
I dont see why posting the pics would be an issue with the book out of print.
I'd like to see the connection between the two.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Rocky on November 27, 2010, 05:05:57 PM
Well this might end up like the whole kimba the white lion vs. simba from the lion king thing.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Nintendoofah64 on November 27, 2010, 05:46:46 PM
Oh cool, I see an archeopteryx :DD
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Adder on November 27, 2010, 05:57:46 PM
Quote from: Nintendoofah64,Nov 27 2010 on  04:46 PM
Oh cool, I see an archeopteryx :DD
Guido inspiration?
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Pangaea on November 28, 2010, 01:08:44 PM
Quote from: Adder,Nov 27 2010 on  04:57 PM
Quote from: Nintendoofah64,Nov 27 2010 on  04:46 PM
Oh cool, I see an archeopteryx :DD
Guido inspiration?
Almost certainly not. Not only was LBT XII made eighteen years later by completely different people, but Guido's species hadn't even been discovered at that time. My guess is that Guido's character was inspired by all the news reports on Microraptor gui that came out when its discovery was announced.

I've never heard of this book before, so I have no idea what roles the characters on the cover have in the story, but if LBT was in any way based off of it, I wonder if the Archaeopteryx could have been the inspiration for Petrie. From what I can see, it actually looks kind of like him.

The titular brontosaurus looks to me more like Dink from Dink, the Little Dinosaur. :p
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Adder on November 28, 2010, 02:00:23 PM
Quote from: Pangaea,Nov 28 2010 on  12:08 PM
My guess is that Guido's character was inspired by all the news reports on Microraptor gui.
Right. I get them confused. :oops They look almost the same.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Pikkutassu on November 28, 2010, 02:03:30 PM
Is this a new book?
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Zenoah on November 28, 2010, 06:55:33 PM
From what I got, it's an old, out of print book.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: pokeplayer984 on November 28, 2010, 08:07:53 PM
As I can recall, when Don Bluth wanted to make The Land Before Time movie, he started reading all of the books about Dinosaurs that he could get his hands on to understand how they all worked and to get inspiration on them.  There were plenty of Children's Books on Dinosaurs at the time, so I wouldn't be surprised if some of the inspiration came from a number of those.

I'd say that just about every book on Dinosaurs that was around at the time deserves some credit for inspiring such an amazing movie.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Malte279 on November 29, 2010, 02:28:42 AM
I remember that several years ago there was a thread about a book that was considered likely to have provided inspiration for the land before time. I think it may have been this one, but I cannot remember for sure anymore.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Flathead on November 29, 2010, 06:59:38 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Nov 25 2010 on  07:36 PM
Is that stegosaurus a character?
Yeah but the stegosaurus has only a minor role in the book,  I'll have to post some pics sometime this week when I've got time. I'll try and clean up some of the images, as I bought a second hand library copy and it shows! lol.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: oogaboo on November 30, 2010, 07:04:02 PM
Littlefoot, Dink the little dinosaur, and the little blue Brontosaurus. Cute :)
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Kor on November 30, 2010, 09:38:04 PM
Sounds like the beginnings of some fan fiction.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Flathead on December 11, 2010, 04:56:15 PM
Rather than post some 40 odd images, I've managed to scan it into low quality jpeg format, and I've posted it on megaupload. although I've haven't got the experience with photoshop to get rid of some of the felt tip marks with dot the various pages.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ESLKSAUJ (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ESLKSAUJ)
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Pangaea on December 12, 2010, 10:40:54 PM
I just downloaded the pictures, but I got them as a single RAR file, and I don't know how to open it. :confused If you know how (e.g., what application I need to use), could you please tell me? (I have a Mac computer, if that's significant in any way.)
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: DarkHououmon on December 12, 2010, 11:06:57 PM
You can use WinRAR to open it. There are other programs you can use. I tend to use WinRAR. There is a trial you can get, but you can still use it after the trial expires. It'll just annoy you with a pop-up.

Once you install WinRAR, right click the image and click Extract Here.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: 2007excalibur2007 on December 13, 2010, 01:25:24 AM
^
There's only a command-line version of WinRAR for OS X (no user interface), but here, I found something similar:

http://www.unrarx.com/ (http://www.unrarx.com/)

It's open-source, so it's free. ;)
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Chiletrek on December 13, 2010, 02:30:02 AM
Hello:
 I got the file and took a look at it. I wanted to say thank you for sharing it, it made for a nice little reading.
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Pangaea on December 15, 2010, 03:51:04 AM
Thank you very much, Kacie and excalibur. :)

And thank you for sharing these pictures, Flathead. Looks like you scanned the whole book. :wow

Having looked at the images, one thing that surprised me is that the story is distinctly set in the late Jurassic period, as all of the dinosaurs in it (brontosaurus, Ceratosaurus, Stegosaurus, Pterodactylus, ultrasaurus, and Archaeopteryx) are from that period. I had expected the “Mesozoic melting pot” scenario, with species from all different periods thrown together, as is the case in LBT.

On the whole, I the book didn't remind me a whole lot of LBT, though I did notice certain similarities. The following are the main parallels I noticed:
ï Main character is a juvenile sauropod separated from his family and traveling to find them. (The little blue brontosaurus = Littlefoot)
ï Large predatory dinosaur(s) stalking the main character throughout his adventure. (The ceratosaurs = Sharptooth)
ï An old armored dinosaur who helps the main character. (The Stegosaurus = Rooter)
ï A quirky flying creature who drops out of a tree. (The Archaeopteryx = Petrie)
ï A mother sauropod hits the aforementioned predatory dinosaur with her tail. (The mother ultrasaurus = Littlefoot's mother)
ï Young dinosaurs of different species sleeping together (Little Blue with the ultrasaurs = the gang in the footprint)

Additionally, some of the artwork vaguely resembles the designs seen in LBT:
ï Some of the small background animals (namely the turtles).
ï Certain features of the dinosaurs, such as the eyes of the characters, the ring-shaped wrinkles around the ceratosaurs' shoulder sockets, the Archaeopteryx's neck ruff, and the folds of skin where the dinosaurs' legs meet their bodies.
ï Aspects of the background, such as the vegetation, and the colors of the sky (which is often red, yellow, green, or an odd shade of blue).
ï On page 34, the young ultrasaurs adopt a stance very similar to Cera's “indignant” posture.

Of course, it is impossible to know how muchóif anyóof this was direct inspiration for LBT, and how much is simply coincidental.

In any case, this was very interesting. Thanks again, Flathead! :D
Title: William stout "The Little Blue Brontosaurus."
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on January 09, 2012, 02:38:13 AM
That must be the kid of the LBT 10 version of Littlefoot's mom. Seriously, was anyone besides me pissed that she wasn't the brown in the 10 flashback?!