The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => 1988 Theatrical Release => Topic started by: Saft on February 23, 2009, 02:47:24 PM
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I apologise if this topic has been menitoned but today I was watching The Land Before Time and began to wonderi and evaluate (all the possibilites) where Cera's Mother and sisters where. Why did they not appear in the Great Valley and participate in reuniting with their lost family member?
If there is an explanation in one of the movie series, then I'm afraid I haven't seen it. I've only watched from 2 to 10.
My personal opinion is that they somehow died in the earthquake.
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Its not stated for sure, but it is likely they died. Topsy ended up marrying again. (Tria) and Now Cera has a step-mom and step-sister.
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They could have also lost track of each other, but that could lead to the stated above.
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I think there is a topic like this out here, I'm sure any of the admins can find it... :) There's no explenation in the sequels though, they most probably have died, yes.
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I don't know where exactly the thread is but I'm quite sure there was one on this question and it was also mentioned in multiple other threads.
One fanfiction of mine is partly focused on the "lost" members of Cera's family. The presence of Dinah and Dana in LBT 6 further complicates matters if indeed they are related by blood rather than being adopted or being temporarily in the care of Cera's Dad though they are not related.
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Dinah and Dana are interesting character imo. Are they related to CEra or just temporarily being rauised by Topsy while thier parents travel..?
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I always imagined that Dinah and Dana were blood related of Topsy and a previous elder sibling to Cera, who somehow were either visiting The Great Valley or arrived before 'Grandpa Threehorn'.
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Alas with the total lack of concern for coherence on the part of the producers of LBT (it cannot be worded any friendlier) all explanations for elements such as Dinah and Dana are almost apologetic efforts undertaken by us where the producers just don't seem to have cared at all. Especially since the turning up of Tria all attempts of explanation based on the assumption that Cera's mother was still there (or any other relatives of her) become rather shaky at best.
For this absence of other relatives of Cera, for their unexplained disappearing after LBT 6, and for them looking very different from Cera (both by color, and the fact that they already sprout three horns) my favorite excuse is that Tops may have taken care of two apparently orphaned Threehorns when he was enroute to the Great Valley (being separated from the rest of his family might have worked to soften up Tops' rough shell for the two hatchlings). A later turning up of Dinah's and Dana's parents in the Great Valley might explain their vanishing in later sequels. I admit this explanation is shaky too (e.g. it assumes all the threehorns we saw in the early sequels to be not related to Cera; which is however an assumption that is supported by their total absence in the Tria sequels), but it may be as stable as we can get it under the given circumstances.
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Yes I see your point Malte.
Or we could presume that Topsy had another 'wife' before Cera's mother?
Suggestions, suggestions.
I only wish that the producers had put thought into the whole character relations. It's the same problem with the 'Who is Nala's father?' in the Lion King.
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They were not clear on that, one can take it either way. Which some may say is one of the good points of their not being very clear.
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A good point Saft, perhaps Nala's father was dead, or is a unnamed relative of Mufasa and Scar, which would make Nala and Simba cousins..
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I always thought that Nala's father was Scar because, as we know that when a new male takes over the pride he kills the cubs to bring the females into 'heat'. Scar when he took over didn't kill Nala. But then, it is disney. Disney doesn't tend to look into the biological deeper depths of life.
As for the topic, Dinah and Dana do complicate matters of the The Land before time verse but as avid fans we could always bring theories into why, whom and what.
Like the fact (in my opinion) Cera's mother and siblings died in the earthquake.
Does anyone think that Cera wasn't very 'bothered' about her mother and sisters deaths? I was thinking about this last night. Unlike Littlefoot when his mother died, Cera (and possibly Spike and maybe Petire) was the only other one who lost a parent (and siblings). I feel as though that although she (like me incidently) had a sort of a relationship with her mother, she had more of a relationship, a strong relationship with her father as they seem more alike. Although we don't know what her mother's or sibling's personalities were like.
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The lion taking over only kills the male cubs, he leaves the females be.. he needs mates after all. Which is why LK2 always struck me as ofdd. If Scar had a family, why didn't he just bring in them when he took over?
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Unless Zira was just one of those avid worshippers who never really had any of Scar's children, but imagined that her cubs (Nuka, Vitani and Kovu) WERE Scar's? As we know and can presume that Kovu wasn't Scar's son, and presume that Vitani and Kovu are both litter mates. Maybe Nuka could be Scar's son?
Or maybe Vitani could be Scar and another lioness's daughter (Sarafina, Nala, Sarabi?) cub or even Kovu, that Zira 'adopted' as her own? After all, Zira is (to put it bluntly) obsessed with Scar.
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My prediction supports the fact that Cera's mother was around temporarily, but died later.
It all points to LBT 5. We all know that the Great Valley residents had to leave due to all the food being eaten by swarming leaf gobblers. (Man, those bugs sure had an appetite. Bigger than Spike's.) I believe that during the trip that some of the residents didn't survive. One of which was unfortunately Cera's mother. (Starvation, dehydration or get killed by a sharptooth? I don't know!)
Also, I believe that during LBT 5, one of Cera's elder siblings found someone, fell in love and mated. I predict the eggs containing Dinah and Dana were laid after LBT 5, and LBT 6 was sometime after they hatched.
I also believe that Cera's sibling didn't want the eggs at first. They didn't want to take care of them, and left the responsibility to Topsy while they got their bearings together. Obviously, they did get everything together after LBT 6 and took care of those twins. They're probably somewhere further away in the valley.
That's my prediction in a nutshell. It might not work, but it's the best I can come up with.
Hope this helps. :)
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Interesting Pokeplayer. I like the theory. Although, why wouldn't the sibling want to take care of her eggs?
I remember, this was a couple of years ago when I was delving into the world of fanfiction that one of the first stories that I read was a explanation of what happened to the adults after they became seperated from their children. I remember that Cera's mother died of starvation whilst one of her siblings was killed by a sharptooth. I can't recall the fanfiction very much as it is a long time since I've read Land Before Time fanfiction plus that particular story. However, that theory could too be plausible.
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its possible tha Nuka could be Scars son. Kovu does loook a like like Scar, especially after Zira stratched him.. They didn't doi a good job of explaining the bloodlines.. And if Nala had mated with Scar wouldn't she have revealed that to Simba.."You're not my first" Sort of thing?
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I guess that the fan world can expand on these sort of situations. After all, isn't that what fanfiction is all about?
There is no denying that The Lion King 2:Simba's Pride was full of 'plot holes'. It can possibly be said about the Land Before Time sequels too. Although most of these are and can be slightly explained.
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I always thought that Nala's father was Scar because, as we know that when a new male takes over the pride he kills the cubs to bring the females into 'heat'. Scar when he took over didn't kill Nala.
In the Lion King musical the immediate cause for Nala to run off from pride's rock is Scars trying to take her for his wife. I have no idea however if there were any cut scenes from the movie or if that scene was entirely the invention of the musical. In any case it would make Nala's being Scar's daughter unlikely... I hope :blink:
Like the fact (in my opinion) Cera's mother and siblings died in the earthquake.
Does anyone think that Cera wasn't very 'bothered' about her mother and sisters deaths? I was thinking about this last night. Unlike Littlefoot when his mother died, Cera (and possibly Spike and maybe Petire) was the only other one who lost a parent (and siblings). I feel as though that although she (like me incidently) had a sort of a relationship with her mother, she had more of a relationship, a strong relationship with her father as they seem more alike. Although we don't know what her mother's or sibling's personalities were like.
In one story of mine Cera's mother and her siblings are lost in the earthquake, but she and two of Cera's sisters survive to play a crucial role in the story. As for Cera's being unconcerned I think it is not her but the producers who didn't bother to include anything about her family and who never outrightly indicated the loss of Cera's mother until LBT 11 (in fact there is a scene from the 2nd movie including a triceratops who is very likely meant to be Cera's mother).
The focus in the original movie and to a large degree of the sequels as well was on Littlefoot so we get much more of an insight into his feelings than we do in case of Cera or even less so in case of the others (never the slightest hint of Petrie wondering about his father or even knowing anything about him). Also I don't suppose Cera to be a character who would be likely to discuss such matters even with her closest friends. It had been questioned recently if even Littlefoot told the others about the death of his mother throughout the first movie (personally I suppose he must have), if there are such doubts about him than I suppose Cera is even less likely to talk about it. Not to talk about it to others does not mean absence of emotion however. I don't think we ever saw Cera cry in front of the others, but we did see her cry.
In case of Ducky's father, he was last spotted in LBT 5 while by all means he would have had to be in LBT 8 if we assume him to be still alive. Nevertheless we never hear any mention of it or see the slightest shadow on Ducky's cheerful nature. Should we (as in case of Cera) therefore assume her to be cold towards her father? I don't think so. It is just the lack of interest on the part of the producers in anything that does not directly relate to the story :(
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that, and it paled in comparison to its predecessor, which imo was the last truly 'great' film, Disney animation produced. While the movies after TLK were good, none of them reached the stature of the Lion King. had there been an animated film category in 1994, it would have won it, easily..
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Malte279:
In the Lion King musical the immediate cause for Nala to run off from pride's rock is Scars trying to take her for his wife. I have no idea however if there were any cut scenes from the movie or if that scene was entirely the invention of the musical. In any case it would make Nala's being Scar's daughter unlikely... I hope
True.
But if memory recalls, The Lion King on Broadway (although fabulous in costume, scenery, music and overall) wasn't actually written by those who did the original movie. After all, they did need a reason to show WHY Nala left Priderock and that isn't shown in the animated movie.
It had been questioned recently if even Littlefoot told the others about the death of his mother throughout the first movie (personally I suppose he must have), if there are such doubts about him than I suppose Cera is even less likely to talk about it. Not to talk about it to others does not mean absence of emotion however. I don't think we ever saw Cera cry in front of the others, but we did see her cry.
I thought in the original movie, that Littlefoot HAD mentioned his Mother's death to Ducky (atleast). When Petrie rips the tree star, Ducky says:
"It is very special, very. His mother gave it to him. She did'.
I just presumed that meant that Littlefoot atleast had told Ducky. Also in the fifth sequel during 'Always there' (off topic, one of my favourite songs) Littlefoot mentions his mother.
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"It is very special, very. His mother gave it to him. She did'.
That's exactly what Ducky says and it need not necessarily mean that he told her about his mothers death. Nevertheless I absolutely share your view that Littlefoot would not have kept this as a secret. He mentioned that he meant to find his grandparents in the Great Valley which would almost inevitably provoke the question about his parents.
The fifth movie leaves really no doubt that he had told them by that time and I do not see any reason why he would have waited till then.
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Perhaps I misunderstood what Ducky said. I apologise Malte.
As to Cera not sharing her emotions, I agree that she would not. After all she doesn't cry in front of the others.
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I do not think you misunderstood it. I perfectly agree with you, but it is not a statement that left no doubt whatsoever, therefore those in favor of the view that Littlefoot kept his mother's death a secret throughout the original movie (the main motivation for this view is to let Cera appear in a less negative light for offending Littlefoot's mother) would not have to accept it as proof.
Again however I think Littlefoot would have told them, but they did not include a scene in the movie that was not necessary from the point of view of the audience.
I dug up one of our older threads (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=944) about Cera's mum. I'm positive there are many more threads in which she is mentioned, but I don't think there is another one in which she makes the headline.
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I think Littlefoot told only those who he 'trusted' in the original movie. After all, he and Cera were fighting and disliked one another.
Thank you for the old thread. The theories are very helpful.
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^Not so sure about Littlefoot. I think in the first movie he was just to sanguine to outrightly dislike Cera, excepting throughout the real quarrel. His helping her to some food without claiming credit. His attempts to be friends with her even after he got to know her rough shell and his embracing her when she joined them in the footprint... I really think Littlefoot did not make so much of a difference between his attitude towards her and the others (and if he told Ducky it is not likely that anything would have remained much of a secret :lol).
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I think Cera mom died or something after the 1st movie because when Cera reunites with her father you can see another threehorn next to Topsy and Cera. It could be her mother? :unsure:
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In the ending
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It would be a real Shocker to know that they are still alive and they show themselves in the 14th Movie
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They could have been separated from Cera and her dad and never made it to the Great Valley. Maybe they found another place to live, or joined a herd of threehorns that may never go to the Great Valley.
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Well se know that Cera thinks they're still alive when she meets Littlefoot at the gorge, saying something like "Im looking for my family, they're on the other side." and "When I find my sisters I wont be alone!"
So we at least know that Cera thinks they are alive, or knows it for a fact.
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Well se know that Cera thinks they're still alive when she meets Littlefoot at the gorge, saying something like "Im looking for my family, they're on the other side." and "When I find my sisters I wont be alone!"
So we at least know that Cera thinks they are alive, or knows it for a fact.
That was only said during the First Movie now from Movie 11 and 12 she only wanted to be was to have a close relationship with her Dad.
:bang I don't know whats going on; this is a Mega Plot Twist, the animators are really confusing all of us concerning Cera's siblings and her Original Mother.
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I think they perished and moved on to greener pastures :cry. If Cera even felt they were still alive by LBT XI, would she not be upset at her father for not "waiting" for them to reunite? If Mr. Threehorn himself had any feeling they were still alive, certainly he'd be putting effort into finding them. I have a feeling that, although it is not shown in the series, Mr. Threehorn knows what happened to them and has told Cera. It seems like Cera's jealousy towards Tria in LBT XI and her anxiety over the thought of becoming an older sister in LBT XII could stem from fear of loss. Her father is what's left of her original family, and she most likely fears losing him too :(. Also, the reason she most likely never mentions them is 'cuz it is painful to think about. I dunno, those are just my thoughts on this matter.
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I think they perished and moved on to greener pastures :cry. If Cera even felt they were still alive by LBT XI, would she not be upset at her father for not "waiting" for them to reunite? If Mr. Threehorn himself had any feeling they were still alive, certainly he'd be putting effort into finding them. I have a feeling that, although it is not shown in the series, Mr. Threehorn knows what happened to them and has told Cera. It seems like Cera's jealousy towards Tria in LBT XI and her anxiety over the thought of becoming an older sister in LBT XII could stem from fear of loss. Her father is what's left of her original family, and she most likely fears losing him too :(. Also, the reason she most likely never mentions them is 'cuz it is painful to think about. I dunno, those are just my thoughts on this matter.
You know to tell you the truth...I believe your opinion was exactly what happen between Movie 11 and 12. Tricia came into the world for a reason to; to make cera realize something (tricia didn't had a mission or anything) but her appearance changed cera pretty much.
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Yes that is true. If Topsy had felt that his first mate were alive then he would have gone to find them.
But after all, the original movie and the movie series weren't made by the same people.
So like the Lion King 2:Simba's Pride before us, there are some plot holes that we avid fans can try to fill with our ideas.
You know to tell you the truth...I believe your opinion was exactly what happen between Movie 11 and 12. Tricia came into the world for a reason to; to make cera realize something (tricia didn't had a mission or anything) but her appearance changed cera pretty much.
Maybe I should see the movie eleven or twelve but what do you mean by Tricia's appearance changing Cera? Please don't tell me that Cera has gone very nice now?
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what do you mean by Tricia's appearance changing Cera? Please don't tell me that Cera has gone very nice now?
She hasn't changed completely but what i'm saying is with the appearance of Tria and Tricia her behavior is quiet different from the other movies she was in. Also she was able to open up to her friends about certain issues a few times.
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Cera Had A Mother In The Land Before Time XI Invasion Of The Tinysauruses. But I Don't Know Where Cera's Sisters Are.
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That was not Cera's mother but Tria. She became the new partner of Cera's Dad, but she is not her mother.
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That was not Cera's mother but Tria. She became the new partner of Cera's Dad, but she is not her mother.
Yeah came out of nowhere but shes doing topsey and Cera a favor.
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I did see her mother and father on the other side of the gorge after the earth-quake happened. I only saw Cera meet up with her dad at the end. The sequels completely ignore her mother and sisters. So, what happened?
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Nobody here knows for a fact, but many believe they are deceased :cry. I believe Mr. Threehorn's relationship with Tria and the birth of Tricia in a way confirm this suspicion. I mean, why else would he find another mate unless things did not work out between the two? If that were the case, I am sure Cera's sisters would've been in the sequels 'cuz her mother and siblings would still want to have her in their lives. Also, I think Littlefoot gave it away in LBT XI when he asked Cera if Tria was going to be her new mom.
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They have been a bit ambiguous. One can say either they died in the earthquake, or maybe were separated from Cera's dad the way she was maybe and could not join with him but joined some other 3 horn herd who does not know the way to the great valley & wonders with them, or settled down elsewhere.
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They are rather unclear about that. As you pointed out they were seen after the earthquake. Also especially the early sequels still show them though they are never mentioned. In LBT 2 we see two grownup threehorns coming to the rescue at the sinking sand (it would make sense for the other threehorn to be Cera's mother though it is never stated explicitly). In LBT 2, 3, and 4 we often see threehorns who seem to be a bit younger or (in case of LBT 4) older than Cera who might well be siblings of her. Then there is the undetermined origin of Dinah and Dana in LBT 6. It is not sure if the "auntie" Cera is to be taken literally though as they differ from Cera and the earlier younger threehorns we have seen both in color and the fact that they sport 3 horns.
The producers of the later LBT movies don't seem to care too much about family matters (Bron) and showed so very distinctly by bringing in Tria as a "new mother" but never giving any clue whatsoever about whatever happened with Cera's mother. Her death would be one conclusion but with her presence in LBT 2 one might wonder if rather than dead dinosaurs already "invented" divorce.
Prior to LBT 11 etc. I started writing a story called "Old Threehorns" which features Cera's mother and two of her sisters. In the theory of that story her mother and sisters went missing in an aftershock of the big earthquake. The assumption was that searching for their children who were scattered after the earthquake Cera's father and mother split up before and aftershock of the earthquake hit. Cera's mother and two of her sisters were then picked up by a threehorn herd in that story which ultimately reaches the Great Valley, but has some ideas about the living together of threehorns and others rather different from what the dinosaurs in the Great Valley developed throughout time. However, all in that story is speculative of course though I tried my best to keep it in accordance with the movies that had appeared up to the time when I started writing it.
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In LBT 2 we see two grownup threehorns coming to the rescue at the sinking sand (it would make sense for the other threehorn to be Cera's mother though it is never stated explicitly). In LBT 2, 3, and 4 we often see threehorns who seem to be a bit younger or (in case of LBT 4) older than Cera who might well be siblings of her. Then there is the undetermined origin of Dinah and Dana in LBT 6. It is not sure if the "auntie" Cera is to be taken literally though as they differ from Cera and the earlier younger threehorns we have seen both in color and the fact that they sport 3 horns.
Personally, I don't think the threehorn in LBT II (who wasn't actually seen "coming to the rescue") is related to Cera. I think it's more likely that he or she was simply another threehorn who happened to be grazing nearby, whose attention was caught by the gang's cries. After all, if you heard a bunch of kids screaming for help, even if they weren't your own, wouldn't you react? Similarly, while the other young threehorns seen in the valley during the early movies could conceivably be Cera's siblings, I doubt that they are. After all, the gang's families can't be the only dinosaurs in the Great Valley who have children.
Dinah and Dana are definitely the monkey wrench in any attempted explanation of Cera's familial relationships. Given that they only appeared in LBT VI, and were never so much as referenced again, I strongly suspect they were just plot device characters whom the filmmakers introduced with little or no consideration for how the gang's families had previously been portrayed. :rolleyes
While Dinah and Dana's colors do differ from Cera's and every other previously seen young threehorn, that is not necessarily evidence that they are a different species. Threehorns, and indeed most LBT dinosaurs, have been shown to have extremely variable coloration, with the main characters usually being the most distinctively colored Although the filmmakers could have made Dinah and Dana the same color as Cera, there's still the matter of enabling viewers to tell one twin from another, which is probably the reason they introduced new color schemes for them. Additionally, another pair of three-horned threehorn children were shown during the introduction of LBT X, accompanied by a parent who didn't look much different from most of the background threehorns we've seen in LBT. Maybe some threehorns are just early bloomers (That's always been my assumption for Dinah and Dana).
If Dinah and Dana's horns are evidence that they are a different kind of dinosaur, then perhaps we should consider Tria, who is not only a strikingly different color from any threehorns we've seen before, but has many more epoccipitals (the small, hornlike bumps along the edge of the frill) than Cera's father (or her mother, for that matter). The fact that Tria and Topsy had a hatchling ought to be clear evidence that she is not too genetically different from him. It's still possible that that Dinah and Dana (and the LBT X threehorns I mentioned before) ARE a different species from Cera, Topsy, and Tria, but it's equally possible that they could just represent one of the many cases of peculiar individual variation among the dinosaurs of LBT.
I have a few other hypotheses for Dinah and Dana's relationship to Cera and her father, and why they are only seen in LBT VI. I can think of a few counterpoints to them, but for now I'd rather let other members make their arguments against them. :p Also, if anyone thinks that I should be posting this in the Dinah and Dana thread in Character Discussion rather than here, I will gladly move it. :yes
ï Dinah and Dana belong to another family of dinosaurs in the Great Valley, who may or may not be related to Cera's family, but are close enough to them that Dinah and Dana think of Cera and her father as their aunt and grandfather. This family had to leave the twins with Cera and her father for some reason or other, and took them back afterwards. The reason we don't see them again could be that they live in another part of the Great Valley, the valley being so large that not all of its inhabitants see each other on a day-to-day basis.
ï Dinah and Dana were lost or orphaned, and Cera and her father cared for them for a while, until either their original family was found, or a new surrogate family adopted them. In this scenario, too, they could be related to Cera and her father, or they could be an entirely different kind of dinosaur.
ï Cera and her father have farwalker relatives who occasionally visit the Great Valley. Dinah and Dana are their children, and during LBT VI, Cera and her father had to babysit them for a time. Afterwards, they left the Great Valley along with their parents. (I saw this explanation used in the fanfic The Land Before Time Onehalf.)
By the way, isn't there already a thread somewhere discussing Cera's missing family? :confused
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Accoring to The Land Before Time wiki, Cera's mother and sibblings were a part of the group Pterano had led into the canyon that was attacked by the fast-biters.
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Accoring to The Land Before Time wiki, Cera's mother and sibblings were a part of the group Pterano had led into the canyon that was attacked by the fast-biters.
They were not:
(http://a.imageshack.us/img830/8679/shot0004n.png)
Please PM me the page you got that from so I can fix it.
I'm going to reckon that they're all dead, unless the next movie (If it happens) reveals that tria was her original mother. (Which will make things even more confusing)
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Personally, I don't think the threehorn in LBT II (who wasn't actually seen "coming to the rescue") is related to Cera. I think it's more likely that he or she was simply another threehorn who happened to be grazing nearby, whose attention was caught by the gang's cries. After all, if you heard a bunch of kids screaming for help, even if they weren't your own, wouldn't you react? Similarly, while the other young threehorns seen in the valley during the early movies could conceivably be Cera's siblings, I doubt that they are. After all, the gang's families can't be the only dinosaurs in the Great Valley who have children.
I suppose that the respective threehorns are very likely to have been intended as relatives to Cera of some sort, but since they were never really referred to it is easy enough to pretend they were not if it doesn't match the demands of later sequels. They are rather vague and incoherent about such details. The outward appearance of Tricia is just another example for that.
I guess the best thing to do about such deliberate vagueness is to think of the story that suits us best and that is not in major conflict with the existing stories and then go with it :lol
Dinah and Dana were lost or orphaned, and Cera and her father cared for them for a while, until either their original family was found, or a new surrogate family adopted them. In this scenario, too, they could be related to Cera and her father, or they could be an entirely different kind of dinosaur.
This is the scenario I picked for that story "Old Threehorns" I mentioned before. I also must say that I like the idea of such a scenario bringing forth some of the softer and more caring sides of Topsy ;)
Accoring to The Land Before Time wiki, Cera's mother and sibblings were a part of the group Pterano had led into the canyon that was attacked by the fast-biters.
Alas the wiki then makes up stories once again which are not official canon. There is certainly no reference whatsoever in the movies about Cera's mother being part of that group.
I considered this possibility for the story "Old Threehorns". The special aversion of Tops against Pterano might have suggested such a theory. However, apart from Cera's mother and sisters being not shown in the movie there are two other major points speaking against the idea of Cera's mother and sister being with Pterano's group.
1. Cera had been told about the Pterano incident prior to LBT 7 but told that she had forgotten what exactly happened. If it had been for Cera's mother and sisters getting killed because of this I daresay it is nothing that Cera would ever forget.
2. If Cera's mother and sisters had been with Pterano this would have suggested them to leave Tops and him deciding not to accompany them and Pterano. This sounds extremely unlikely to me.
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Accoring to The Land Before Time wiki, Cera's mother and sibblings were a part of the group Pterano had led into the canyon that was attacked by the fast-biters.
They were not:
(http://a.imageshack.us/img830/8679/shot0004n.png)
Please PM me the page you got that from so I can fix it.
I'm going to reckon that they're all dead, unless the next movie (If it happens) reveals that tria was her original mother. (Which will make things even more confusing)
I know they aren't seen in the scene, but that's just what most fans most think.
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My prediction is that her mother and siblings were with Pterano's herd and they died in that sharptooth attack...save for Layla and Jordon...who appear in Always the Same Sun. :DD
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That would be one bizzare coincidence that might lead us to a completely new dramatic confrontation between Cera and Pterano in some of more darkly-themed fanfics. :)
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That's whats going on in Pterano's RP right now, actually. And yeah, it's making for some great drama :)
And that is still a great idea, TFM. Probably the best from your sorta meh second story. I'm actually wanting to use a tweaked version of that idea someday in my TV series fic.
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Well we saw a Pink Dinosaur that could have been Cera's Mom,.
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If you're talking about the pink Triceratops in The Invasion of The Tinysaurses that would just happen to be Tria, Cera's step-mother, not her real mother.
Also, the Cera's mother and sisters being involved in the Pterano incident is stirring up a bit of drama in Pterano's RP, and, it's actually kind of a possible theory once you really think about it. As for my own ideas, I've always thought they just died in the Great Earthshake (forgive me if I've already posted this).
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Yeah maybe she did die in the first movie after the Earth Shake. She is never mentioned again after the first movie.
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You can see her the last time when Cera calls for her parents after the earthquake on the other side of the rift.
I would say if she died in the first movie then it was in the area with the volcanos and the tar pit because (if she was stubborn like her daughter) she took the wrong way like Cera.
But I don't think that it was the intention of Bluth to let her die. I think it was artistic freedom of the following producers to show the difficulty of the lonely father/daughter relationship.
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The only thing I ever heard about this was in the eleventh movie. Also, in the end, did they include the cell, when she met her family back? Didn't she meet up with them and they were visually shown?
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Ah that could be the case. Maybe they wanted to see what a farther and daughter relationship was like. No one ones for sure what happened to her.
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Sorry to revive a seemingly dead topic but I noticed something that I don't think anyone else has. In the first film, after the Sharptooth attack and the earthquake hits. There is that big shot of the chasm breaking apart and a group of Dinosaurs running away from the crevice right? well a few days ago I noticed that some of the dinosaurs that get taken down with a piece of the earth look like baby triceratops. This is just a theory but there is about six or seven of them and they all fall into the chasm. maybe Cera's sisters were those Three-horns and we've never noticed it before. but as I said, just speculation here guys.
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Sorry to revive a seemingly dead topic
On the contrary. Personally I really like seeing old topics revived whenever there is something to be added to them. I want to commend many of our recently joined members for bringing back earlier threads with new additions rather than starting new threads on the same topics :yes
Unfortunately we never learned much details about any family members of Cera other than her Dad. While the movie suggests that Cera's mother and at least some of her siblings survived the earthquake to appear in the closing scenes in the Great Valley it is never really specified. We don't know if there were any siblings of Cera other than those we saw in the opening scene. I guess it is quite possible that some of them did not survive the earthquake. With the very limited information we got on the family of Cera (and all the others except for Littlefoot for that matter) I'm afraid there is no way to be certain about this.
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Its not stated for sure, but it is likely they died. Topsy ended up marrying again. (Tria) and Now Cera has a step-mom and step-sister.
I have watched the one where they meet
Petrie's uncle and he wanted to be the leader
So when the the Heard separated she went with Petrie's uncle
And the people who went with him died!!!they were attacked by sharp touths
And that what happened
Hope this helps :angel
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The movies never tell us what happened to Cera's mom and siblings since I think it would be to much for them to put in a kids movie. And I liked the fact Cera has a step mom now. She is there to look after her and make sure she isn't doing anything to bad.
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Indeed, we never learned anything about Cera's mother and her sisters in the movies, but we can still discuss what might have happened offscreen...
Dreamcake: You brought up something new... Of course Cera's mother could have joined Pterano but it is very unlikely that Topsy would split up with his mate...
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Of course Cera's mother could have joined Pterano but it is very unlikely that Topsy would split up with his mate...
That's very true, but I'd like to bear in mind that when Littlefoot asked Cera in the 1th movie whether Tria was going to be her new mom, Cera went absolutely ballistic. It's obvious that whatever happened was a sensitive topic, and the gang may or may not know much about it...
I suppose its fair to mention here that at least one of Cera's older siblings may have moved on and reproduced, as shown by the presence of her nephew and niece. Of course, they may just refer to her as 'auntie' just because that's how they see her. But that would beg the question as to why they refer to her father as 'grandpa.'
And, if indeed Cera knew what their first words were, surely she may have been present for a lot of their early life, including their birth, showing she may have reunited with one of her sisters (what she confirms most or all of her siblings to be in the first movie) offscreen. Still, its an interesting topic, one I do plan on covering in my fic... :lol *sigh* I'm so vain about that fic... :huh:
For more on Cera's siblings and motherHERE! (http://landbeforetime.wikia.com/wiki/Cera's_Siblings):
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It would be a real Shocker to know that they are still alive and they show themselves in the 14th Movie
We'll see in 5 more months.
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In the second movie, at the end, during the song we see a group of threehorns running towards Cera. And in the scene when the gang falls in the swamp, we see Topsy (love this nickname :p ) grazing with another threehorn which looks female, so it's safe to assume that Topsy and Cera's mother probably split up after the events of LBT II for some reason.
Most likely, the writers just decided to present Cera as the only daughter of a single-parent household. This way it’s easier to explain certain events in LBT III, and after that sequel it just stuck. The same thing with Ducky’s father, who we see in LBT II, but never again. The only coherent families throughout the film series are Littlefoot’s and Petrie’s.