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General Land Before Time / Possible Locations of the Great Valley
« on: April 08, 2012, 07:15:44 PM »
Actually, Saurolophus is already known to have lived in North America. AFAIK Lambeosaurus is strictly American, though--I've never heard of it being found in Asia.

I've thought about this many times. Even excluding geological differences that would have to have existed, Utah in general is a great match for the kind of landscape we see in the movies.

My pet theory for a while was that the Great Valley was in Mexico--they don't have the best fossil record, but I've heard of brachiosaur and Monoclonius fossils in Maastrichtian(!) sediments, suggesting a sort of "Lost World" esque thing was going on there. But I'm pretty sure Mexico used to be mostly underwater, with part of it serving as an island...

Maybe then-island Mexico was actually "Sharptooth Island"--that would put the Great Valley in the southwest United States...


In any case, the kinds of dinosaurs aren't all from the same continent. Probably. There is a way to shoehorn them in, depending on which dinosaurs they actually are, and I'm not sure how many are identified by name.

Yes, a lot are definitely North American dinosaurs--Lambeosaurus, Triceratops, Struthiomimus, Stegosaurus, etc. Some aren't exclusively North American but could be, like Saurolophus.

Others are "obviously" not North American, but do have close relatives there--which makes me wonder how many have canon identifications and how many were identified by fans, because a good number of them could be explained away as just being different kinds of dinosaur. Guido (Microraptor?) could actually be a Koparion or Palaeopteryx, the Yellow-Bellies (Beipiaosaurus?) could be Nothronychus or Falcarius. "Stegosaurus longispinus" is said by some to be an American species of Kentrosaurus, and some of the bones assigned to "Iguanodon ottingeri" (also from Utah) show the same tall spines Ouranosaurus had. Maybe Ruby is an Ojoraptorsaurus or Hagryphus, rather than an Oviraptor. We don't know what their crests looked like, after all, they could have been more slanted than Chirostenotes's...

There are just a couple I've seen that this idea can't explain, like Muttaburrasaurus, Amargasaurus(?) and Spinosaurus (no spinosaurs of any kind have been found in North America), and maybe others I haven't noticed. But for the most part, they appear to fit.

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General Land Before Time / Could the sequels have been made darker?
« on: April 08, 2012, 06:32:26 PM »
As far as the grass growing in the Mysterious Beyond... TBH the Mysterous Beyond always seemed to me to be rather like a label slapped on anything "beyond" (read: outside of) the Great Valley, rather than a specific isolated location. I'm not sure if they ever mention it as being distinct from other outside regions. Perhaps someone else can correct me on that if I'm wrong--I don't have the movies on hand to double-check.

I definitely think it would have been neat if they'd stayed true to the original color scheme, like Allicloud said. I never was able to put my finger on it before, but it did add a lot to change the ambience and overall flavor. Look at Mo, for instance... pretty sure his coloration was based on the Ophthalmosaurus from Walking With Dinosaurs, but they went and made him bright Sunny-D yellow. Yipes.

And for what Malte279 and Allicloud said about the skeletons... definitely. I mean, what about the scene in the first movie in the region with the tar pits? I seem to remember more than a few bones and more than a little screaming (generally from Cera). Sure they were younger then... but what about LBT V when they come across the Parasaurolophus skeleton and Ducky's mother tells her not to look... I can think of a few other instances as well. Seems like they just ignored the shock value at times when it was convenient, but at the price of consistency.

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