The Gang of Five

The Land Before Time => Cancelled and old projects => LBT Projects => LBT Audio Play Project => Topic started by: Malte279 on September 10, 2008, 01:30:01 PM

Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on September 10, 2008, 01:30:01 PM
As I suggested in the original thread there is perhaps the possibility to use a translated script of the audio plays which so far appeared only in Germany as a basis for the project. I am aware that this may be an unpopular suggestion as many of us have fanfiction and would certainly like those to be turned into an audio play. Still I think that a translation of those audio plays might be a more realistic approach before we try to create a longer and more complex story. In practicing with these plays we might also gain valuable experience for possible later projects.
While often the plots sound kind of lame and could be summarized in very few sentences the makers of those plays did a very good job in making up realistic dialogues and elaborating the story.
There are six of those audio plays each of which is about 25 minutes long. I will try to give a very short summary of each:

The Great Adventure
Frustrated with their parents' overprotective attitude Littlefoot and the others set out to climb the highest mountain at the edge of the Great Valley. They suspect it to be the highest point in the world and Littlefoot believes that there is probably a way to the mysterious beyond. During their ascend Cera almost falls into a deep abbys and at a "bubbling source" Ducky is the one to get in trouble (being trapped in a bubble the way Cera was in LBT 6). When at last they reach the summit their gazing over the landscape is interrupted by the growling of an approaching sharptooth. Only by squeezing through some very narrow crevices (which later makes them realize that there are occasional advantages in still being little) they manage to escape and return to the Great Valley.
(Requires speakers for the Gang and Littlefoot's Grandparents)

Cera in Peril
The Gang's plan to to spend the night among the tall trees is shattered by their parents' prohibiting them from doing so. Angrily Cera decides to do it anyway and runs off "forcing" all of the others to follow her (among other through a thorny shrub). Not paying attention to where she is going Cera ends up running right into a patch of sinking sand. The others try to save her (with a vine which tears, with a branch that breaks, and by building a "chain" which doesn't work out either as Ducky doesn't manage to keep hold of Cera's horn). There is a lot of funny dialogue (e.g. Cera's reaction upon overhearing Littlefoot whisper to Petrie that he should distract Cera so she won't be to afraid), but it really looks like Cera is lost, when in the very last moment Littlefoot's grandpa comes to the rescue.
(Requires speakers for the Gang and Littlefoot's Grandpa)

A strange egg
While trying to build a "secret hideout" of rocks and stuff the Gang finds an egg. They decide to hatch it. During the night they all dream what might be in the egg. Petrie's dream (which in the end turns out to come true) has a "baby Petrie" in the egg. Littlefoot's dream puts a flower with arms and legs into the egg and one that is not just able to walk but also to bite. The flower proves to be quite dangerous, especially to Ducky, but in the end it turns out that the flower is aggressive out of solitude which is cured when at last they find a patch of identical flowers.
Ducky's dream has the egg filled with a carterpillar (or several which might have crawled away already) and she finds the remaining egg shell to be quite a comfortable "Ducky cave".
Spike is mentioned to sound like he didn't dream anything or if it "certainly had to do with eating".
Cera's story is cut short to a line saying that she dreamed an entirely new and unknown dinosaur (and thus an interesting playmate) is in the egg.
As mentioned above the next day reveals that Petrie's dream hit the mark.
(Requires the main characters and some sounds for that flower and the baby Petrie)

The mysterious cave
While playing (chasing butterflys) the gang looses track in the Great Valley and end up in a somewhat creepy forest. Trying to find the way back home they stumble across a cave which increases their uneasiness especially when they hear a strange voice. The voice (after very cautious exploring) turns out to belong to a dinosaur who from the description seems to be a Plesiosaurus. He turns out to be friendly though and helps them to return to their home in the Great Valley which had been the Plesiosauruses destination as there is supposed to be a "wonderful waterhole" in the Great Valley.
(Requires the gang and that Plesiosaurus)

The other two plays are titled "Together we can do it" and "Far too much skywater". I will write summaries of those later if there is any general interest in working with these plays at all.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on September 10, 2008, 02:31:26 PM
Its best we try something that was already done than trying immediatly something possibly difficult. You said these were already existing plots, right? (sorry for repeting what you said just to show I agree with it... <_< )

For plot, I guess the best idea(s) would be the Great Adventure and the Mysterious Cave.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Vaan360 on September 10, 2008, 02:40:42 PM
i think its a great ideia to start from here, we can gain some some experience here as voice actting, and we will probably find the 5 persons that will represent the gang in the original ideia.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: lbt/cty_lover on September 10, 2008, 03:16:09 PM
I believe that the best idea would be to do something similar to what happened in the first movie.

Here is an idea from me.

The gang is living happily in the Great Valley, and all of a sudden, the trees become sick. Not only do the trees become sick, but the water becomes tainted. Soon, the valley becomes mostly inhospitable. Realizing that there is no way that anyone could live in the valley anymore, the herds in the valley decide to leave their once beautiful home once and for all. They leave the Great Valley, only to be attacked by a group of sharpteeth. In the midst of the attack, Cera's father becomes grievously wounded. He tells Tria to take care of Cera and Tricia, in a somewhat emotional death scene that vaguely resembles the one in the first movie. On top of that, the rest of the parents are separated from their children. The only hope for anyone to survive is to make it to another sanctuary before the sharpteeth attack again. Both groups encounter other herds saying that there was another valley a little ways off, but the path would be treacherous. Each herd encounters obstacle after obstacle, but their work pays off, and they arrive at this beautiful valley. The children arrive first, and then the parents arrive shortly after, just as the kids were wishing for their parents.

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I wanted to make this somewhat of a replacement for the 14th movie in the series, but I wanted it to also be like the original.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on September 10, 2008, 03:19:33 PM
That's a great idea for a plot, but that would be somewhat long. We should start by something short, not too complex nor too simple, to gain some experience on it.
Nonetheless, its a great idea.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Mumbling on September 10, 2008, 03:22:12 PM
What explorer said.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: lbt/cty_lover on September 10, 2008, 03:28:27 PM
This just gave me a spark of idea. Instead of one huge audio play that follows my script, just break it into parts of the plot. Like what the original Doctor Who episodes were like. There were groups of episodes revolving around a single plot.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on September 10, 2008, 03:54:29 PM
You mean like a... whats it called... a novel... you name it, right?
That would be a good idea. And a good thing for practice, too. Not too complex nor too long, the right properties...

Its a good idea.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: lbt/cty_lover on September 10, 2008, 03:59:47 PM
I think that there should be a plot screening process.

Part One
The first part of the screening process is to submit a plot in this topic. The plot will be reviewed by a group of peers, and then passed by an examination board. If the plot passes the inspection, then the script for the plot can be written. If it fails the inspection, no script will be written until it is approved. The plot must be fairly detailed on what happens. Not as detailed as the script, but it must give a semi-detailed overview of what will happen in the play.

Part Two
The second part of the screening process is the script development stage. During this step, the script will be written and worked on until it the group that worked on said script think that the script is ready for inspection. Again, the script will go through an examination board, but the board will be much more rigorous than the first board. If the script passes, it will be put on the list of scripts to be made into an audio play. This will be reserved for the best of the best, though. If the script is rejected, then the script can be worked on again.

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I figured that since we aren't making movies, it won't be as hard to make these audio plays. Therefore, multiple audio plays could be made.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on September 10, 2008, 04:04:16 PM
So, you suggest the creation of many departments, from inspection to acceptation, right?

It would make things easier, actually.

The plot being rejected would sound like 25th April (National holyday).
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: lbt/cty_lover on September 10, 2008, 04:05:33 PM
That is true. We must appoint two inspection groups! One for a plot, and one for a script.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on September 10, 2008, 05:27:40 PM
Doing a movie may be what most would like to do but that should be far off.  First we'd have to practice, then I'd suggest short scenes to get practice  with voice acting, using software, equipment ect.  Then when everyone seems ready move on to doing tv episode length stuff.  When eventually everyone feels ready to move to movies I like the idea of instead of a full movie at once doing it in shorter chunks, either like the old cliffhanger serials,  that had a certain number of chapters per story (and the classic dr who follows this) or doing it by scenes.  If you look at a tv episode or movie one can break it down into scenes, so maybe we can focus on doing scene by scene instead of a whole 25 minute episode and continue that into the movie, or break the movie into sections.  Maybe even an episode into sections or scenes too.  

For plot ideas we can use some present and past rp threads here that are pure lbt, though some may be unfinished it would give at least a good idea of the part of the story covered so far.  Maybe also some pure lbt fanfiction here, if it fits the movie length and not a 15 chapter serial like many of the serials of the 1940's and earlier serials were.  

One plot idea for an eventual movie, though the gang would not be in it, is to maybe the combined herds and the adventures they had maybe before or around the time they combined into a combined herd and the adventures they had in getting to the great valley.  We've only seen a retcon flashback seen in the 7th movie and not the rest of it.    Though the gang are not in it it could be an opportunity to voice not just the adult fc's but some others like Hpy and his cronies as well as Petrie and Ducky's families also.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: lbt/cty_lover on September 10, 2008, 06:39:40 PM
That sounds good. While I was trying to write my plot, I was not only trying to make it like the original LBT movie, but trying to draw the central focus away from Littlefoot.

Some of the RPs could give inpiration to plots, but it would be best if poeple tried to make their own plots.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on September 12, 2008, 09:03:58 AM
I have translated about the first five minutes of the audio play "The Great Adventure" which I think would be an interesting play to try with (Cera in peril would be interesting too, but I think that one is tricky because of the many distressed sounding exchanges and some shrieks (not quite as easy to record those with others nearby as it would be to record a song :lol)). We have of course not settled for anything yet, but this might give some idea of what a script for an audio play might look like. I translated it as closely as possible to the original audio play though some of the Ducky / Petrie talk may sound a bit untypical in which case I'm grateful for any suggestions to improve it. By the way, that scene with the caterpillar Harry could be cut (sparing us the need of one more speaker) in our version of the play unless we find it funny enough to keep it. As it doesn't really get on the story:

Backgroundsounds of nature (chirring of  crickets etc.)
Littlefoot: May I now go to play grandma?
Grandma: Sure you may Littlefoot, but promise not to go to far.
Grandpa: And when the bright circle touches the ground you must be back home with us.
Littlefoot (sighs and sounds a bit  frustrated): Grandpa, I’m no tiny little longneck anymore. I’m big and can look after myself.
Grandma: Perhaps so Littlefoot, but we are worrying about you if you go so far…
Littlefoot (interrupting): Gee, Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike are with me all the time. What could possibly happen?
Grandpa: You could accidentally end up in the Mysterious Beyond.
Grandma: Or fall into a ravine.
Grandpa: Or…
Littlefoot (interrupting): No, we’ll look after ourselves. Don’t worry! See you!
(Littlefoot leaves Grandma and Grandpa sigh)
Grandma: These kids!

Narrator: Littlefoot set off to his friends Cera, Ducky, Petrie, and Spike. Who were already waiting for him. He was a bit angry with his grandparents for they still seemed to put everything past him. All the time they were warning him not to go to far and to come back home before the bright circle touched the ground… no, this was really too much of a good thing. Littlefoot spotted his friends who were romping about in a pile of treestars.

(Sound of laughter and romping about of Petrie, Ducky, Cera, and Spike)
Littlefoot: Hey, there you are! Cooee, here I am!
Cera: What took you so long?
Ducky: Yes, we were waiting for you. Waiting we were! Yep, yep, yep.
Petrie (sounding frolicsome): Me no wait! Me played with treestars!
Spike sounds playful.
Littlefoot (sighs frustrated): I meant to be here a long time ago, but my grandparents had more warnings for me than there are treestars upon a tree! It’s terrible! I really want to have a really great adventure, for I’m big enough for his!
Cera: Oh yes, I’d just love to chase a Sharptooth! Just a bit.
Littlefoot (sounding dismissive): Oh, that’s for little kids! … Shall I tell you a secret?
Everyone else: Yes!
Spike sounds affirmative.
Littlefoot: I think I know a way that leads into the Mysterious Beyond.
Everyon: What?
Spike sounds suprised.
Littlefoot: Exactly! It is probably on the other side of the big stony mountain.
Petrie (sounding scared): We no may go there!
Ducky (sounding affirmative): We may not! No, no, no!
Cera (sounding defiantly): Pshaw! Who says we may not? (sounding boastful) I am Cera, a threehorn! And a threehorn won’t be barred by anyone!
Petrie (sounding self-conscious): And I am Petrie a err… a flyer! And Petrie scared of the Mysterious Beyond! You say something Ducky?
Ducky: I do not know! No, no, no! I really do not know, really do not! What do you think Spike?
Spike gives a rather unintelligable sound.
Littlefoot: You heard it! Spike is in favor of it! And besides you really don’t need to fear, for you are under the protection of a longneck!
Cera (making a dismissive sound): Well I think… hey look there! A small green stick crawling over the ground!
Petrie (giving a surprised sound): Me never see something like that! Funny is it!
Ducky (laughing): Look, it contracts and then becomes long and flat again again, long and flat!
Cera: Who are you?
Harry: I’m Harry, a caterpillar and if you step on me with your big feet I’ll pay you back!
Cera: What?
Harry: And if your hungry friend here means to eat me he is in for a nasty surprise!
Littlefoot: But Spike would never eat you, Harry.
Harry: Oh no? And why is he smacking all the time? Huh?
Littlefoot: Well, because he is hungry all the time. If Spike had it his way he would never do anything but eating and sleeping.
Harry: Exactly! That’s what he looks like! No thank you, I better take cover again!

Ducky (sounding a bit flabbergasted and disappointed): Now he is gone. Gone he is!
Petrie (still sounding quite amused): Funny animal that!
Cera: So what about our great real adventure? If we keep standing around here the bright circle will soon touch the ground and darknees will fall over the Valley.
Littlefoot: Right. Then we can’t have an adventure anymore; for one doesn’t see a thing. Alright then, follow me! On to a new adventure!
Cera and Ducky cheer in agreement.
Petrie: Well me no know…
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: f-22 "raptor" ace on September 13, 2008, 09:21:45 PM
How about making a fan fic into and audio play? You can make mine into one but i still need to edit the other chapters and write the final chapters.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on September 14, 2008, 10:51:50 AM
Thank you F-22, but if it comes to turning a fanfiction into a script I suppose it would be best if the authors themselves do this unless a reader of the fanfiction is very eager to do this. After all it is quite a lot of work to do that. Would you turn your fanfiction into a script?
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: f-22 "raptor" ace on September 14, 2008, 10:55:37 AM
Quote from: Malte279,Sep 14 2008 on  09:51 AM
Thank you F-22, but if it comes to turning a fanfiction into a script I suppose it would be best if the authors themselves do this unless a reader of the fanfiction is very eager to do this. After all it is quite a lot of work to do that. Would you turn your fanfiction into a script?
Yes I would. But since it's not completly done yet you can do another idea for now until I've completled my fanfic.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Mumbling on September 14, 2008, 11:00:58 AM
Heh.. Thanks to the translated version I finally know it was a caterpillar :p

I think the rest of the story is good too. We could do this for a try out, just to see if everything works.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on September 14, 2008, 01:33:31 PM
Once folks are ready to tackle a 25? minute episode, before there will be practice and such I would assume, and picking who'll be in what part, and stuff like that.  Maybe adjusting since there are so many female parts and only 1 female, unless others can use software to do alter their voice to do those, as well as sounding like a kid, ect.   The German audio is a good start after that we can see where things go.  Another source, as I mentioned, is some of the pure rp threads of the past and present (and future ones that may be started) well as fan fiction, and making up our own story.  Though I do hope the future stuf,  remains as pure lbt as possible.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Vaan360 on September 15, 2008, 05:06:06 PM
Well when its all set and ready to start the recording, the ones that are participating in the recording, should meet at msn or other program to get it over with.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on September 16, 2008, 12:41:44 AM
The ones that can based on their schedule, or there may be other options, they'll all need to be discussed at the proper time.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on October 06, 2008, 03:50:23 AM
There are 2 ideas I have that may be plots.  

I'll try to work on one of my ideas, not sure if I can finish or do a very good job of it.


Another possible plot could be just how did Chomper get off the island, how did Ruby come to promise his parents to look after him.  How did Chomper get accepted by seemingly nearly every adult of the Great Valley.   The movie gang would be in it, but not in the beginning.  Not till later I would guess.  Maybe the late beginning, the beginning of the middle.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on November 10, 2008, 05:31:56 AM
Some maybe short plot ideas.  Some mentioned above could be short.  Short plots can be good to get practice in for the various stages needed to make even an fan amateur audio play.

Some ideas I had, likely not good ones: The gang (and maybe some non gang friends like Guido, ect) laying on their backs looking at the sky and saying what some of the sky puffies look like.  

A group of adults talking while around a watering place, while the gang and the other kids are off playing & the adults have some time to themselves without the kids being nearby.  

The Gang Telling each other stories (scary, funny, memories they had or that their parents told them about their childhood, ect)  

Picking a movie, or tv episode and doing a script of what happens 5-10 minutes after it ends.  

Doing a script for what happens in the 5-10 minutes right before a certain movie, or tv episode begins.  

Maybe doing what could be considered a cut scene from one of the movies, or putting in a scene that could be in a movie or episode.  

Just a few ideas I had for what may be short plots, but not very good ideas.  Though may as well list them and it may help others get good short plot ideas.  

Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on November 10, 2008, 10:44:30 AM
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Some ideas I had, likely not good ones: The gang (and maybe some non gang friends like Guido, ect) laying on their backs looking at the sky and saying what some of the sky puffies look like.
I like the idea :yes
One could include mention of the "cloud image" which Littlefoot saw in the original movie (we don't know if he ever told his friends about it at all).
I had lately been thinking about a story in which treestars and the meaning of the "original treestar" to Littlefoot would have played, but with the main function of treestars as food, clouds would be a much better approach.
I continued translating the German audio play, but I think that it may be a bit too ambitious a project for a first try after all. One thing I did notice during the translating is how few pages are required for a script. It takes only three pages to make up for 10 minutes of audio play.
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The Gang Telling each other stories (scary, funny, memories they had or that their parents told them about their childhood, ect)
This too is an idea one could work with. Perhaps one could have the gang trying to find out about the reasons for certain phenomena (rainbow, increasing and decreasing moon, thunderstorm etc.) and telling "their" interpretations of it.
The idea to make short prologues / epilogues for existing movies might work out, but it may be kind of problematic if we require knowledge of the respective episode from the audience to enable them to understand it. I would rather go for the other suggestions you made Kor :)
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Mumbling on November 10, 2008, 10:51:40 AM
Those ideas aren't bad at all! :) I think talking about memories could be fun... It's also a way to dig deeper into ones personality.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on November 10, 2008, 06:06:19 PM
Thanks, does anyone else have any ideas?
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Nimrod on December 01, 2008, 06:41:17 AM
Guys, is there something up now? I don¥t have ideas myself, I am sorry, but this topic is inactiv now for almost one month Oo
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on December 01, 2008, 03:23:48 PM
I had started on the movie idea but stopped since it would be long and I wasn't sure if anyone else was interested.  If so I'd go with shorter scene ideas first, since a movie is a big thing to tackle first.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Nimrod on December 01, 2008, 05:01:46 PM
How you wish
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on December 01, 2008, 05:14:10 PM
I have absolutely NOT given up on this project, but I must admit that work on my final university essay may delay my part of the work for a while. While I do not yet run out of time I do to some degree run out of leisure to make work conducted on behalf of this project good work.
I suppose the writing of a shorter script than that of the German audio plays I started with may be necessary.
Kor made a good suggestion to work with about the clouds (and there is a good possibility there to include something about the cloud image that led Littlefoot to the great Valley).
There are a couple of other possibilities for plots.
As far as I am concerned the project is far from being canceled, but for a while I won't be able to work much on it (and on other LBT projects). A delay, no more. Everyone else is also hearty invited to give some input.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on December 01, 2008, 10:08:40 PM
The shorter ones may be best.  I've suggested a few ideas for those, anyone else have ideas?
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: f-22 "raptor" ace on December 01, 2008, 11:16:12 PM
maybe some of the LBT RPs on the site?
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Serris on December 02, 2008, 04:48:56 PM
Quote from: f-22 "raptor" ace,Dec 1 2008 on  10:16 PM
maybe some of the LBT RPs on the site?
In all honesty, I think the LBT RPs on this site are more suited for novelization due to their size and almost epic nature.

And besides, most of them are not quite pure LBT.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on December 02, 2008, 05:57:46 PM
& some of them revolve around an oc or 2.  Though 1 or 2 may be ok, they would be pretty long audio plays, sorta like a mini series on tv.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on December 17, 2008, 05:04:54 AM
I thought I'd throw together a very short pre first draft of one of the short scene ideas, this one is what could have been in the scene a bit after Ducky finds Spike, and there seems to be a cut then the 5 or them are traveling together.  I wasn't sure how Cera would respond to this so didn't put in any dialog for her, and it is only the beginnings since I was sure folks would not like this so thought it best to just do the beginning and not the whole scene:



Littlefoot calling out as he is looking for Ducky: “Ducky, can you hear me?”

Petrie says from the top of Littlefoot's head: “Me see Ducky she over there.”

Littlefoot : “I see her too, Ducky, hey Ducky.”

Ducky turns at the sounds of the voiced of her new friends.  

Ducky: “over here.  I am over here, yes I am, yep, yep, yep.”

Then to Spike

Ducky: “Those are my friends, we are going to the Great Valley, you can come too if you want, yes you can.”

The 3 others ( Littlefoot, Cera, & Petrie) arrive.

Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on December 17, 2008, 10:36:01 AM
^ There has been a scene cut from the movie right after Spike's hatching (everyone has seen the picture of Ducky trying to get Spike to stand up with that branch of berries which can in fact be seen in the following scene in the movie). In at least one (maybe in more; I'd have to check out) LBT book I have it is suggested that Cera actually opposed taking Spike along, but was overruled. Maybe something could be made from this.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on December 17, 2008, 12:53:48 PM
I thought she likely would.  The first movie Cera is not exactly like the other movie Ceras.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on December 18, 2008, 07:23:08 AM
Hope you don't mind the double posting, but I thought it best so this post is kept separately.  Since the previous fragment was so small I'll go ahead and post the whole thing.  This is the first draft and likely not very good, and it is very short.  Not to long for this forum I hope.

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Littlefoot calling out as he is looking for Ducky: “Ducky, can you hear me?”

Petrie says from the top of Littlefoot's head: “Me see Ducky.  She over there.”

Littlefoot : “I see her too, Ducky, hey Ducky.”

Ducky turns at the sounds of the voiced of her new friends.  

Ducky: “over here.  I am over here, yes I am, yep, yep, yep.”

Then to Spike

Ducky: “Those are my friends, we are going to the Great Valley, you can come too if you want, yes you can.”

The 3 others ( Littlefoot, Cera, & Petrie) arrive.

Cera: “Here you are.  Why did you go all the way over here?”

Ducky: “I had no choice.  You jumped on the log and I went flying.”

Cera says in an annoyed voice: “oh so it is my fault is it?”

Petrie: “You no flyer, you bigmouth.”

Ducky: “I know.”

Petrie thinks for a moment: “What was it like?”

Ducky: “Sorta scary, but sorta fun too.”

Spike walks out from a bit behind her having been eating this whole time and is looking for some more stuff to eat.  

Littlefoot: “Who is that.” Seeing Spike for the first time.  

Ducky: “That is Spike, he is coming to the Great Valley with is.”

Cera: “Oh, no he's not.”

Ducky: “He is all alone.  I helpeded him to hatch, I did, I did.”

Littlefoot: “Maybe his Mommy and Daddy are at the Great Valley.”

Cera: “He won't be able to keep up.  He'll just slow us down.”

Ducky: “He can keep up, he can.”

Littlefoot: “It would not be right to just leave him behind.”

Cera: “Look at how much he eats, and he doesn't look smart enough to know to follow us.”

Ducky goes over and picks up a thin branch with a leaf on it.  She waves it in front of Spike who licks his lips and jumps for it.  Ducky is able to lift it higher then he can jump.  She moves it around and sees Spike following.  

Ducky: “See, he can follow us.”

Littlefoot: “Looks like a good idea Ducky.  You can ride on me.”

Cera in an annoyed voice, “Fine, but if he falls behind or slows us down I'm not going back for him.”

Ducky gets on Littlefoot, riding on his tail facing backward and holding up the branch with the leaf and the gang of now five sets out.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on December 18, 2008, 06:40:05 PM
Nice work Kor :)
I think this is a good basis to work with. In particular I like your idea of having Petrie ask Ducky about her "flight experience" and Cera's snapping about anyone suggesting anything to be her fault is also very much in character.
The scene is of course a scene taken out of the context of a much larger story rather than a full story by itself, but everyone here knows the surrounding story. So I think the play could be done without a long winded introduction (though we could perhaps reenact the movie scene preceding Spike's hatching as an intro). It is a realistic approach to test our abilities and if we can realize this we could consider larger plays.
There are a few additions and minor alternations may perhaps further improve your work. In case of some of the non-spoken directions you gave e.g.:

"Ducky goes over and picks up a thin branch with a leaf on it. She waves it in front of Spike who licks his lips and jumps for it. Ducky is able to lift it higher then he can jump. She moves it around and sees Spike following. "

We may either have to include a narrator e.g.:

"Narrator: Ducky looked a bit downcast at this. But suddenly her face brightened up. She had spotted a branch with a few berries on a nearby bush..."

Or (the option I think I would prefer) we would have the characters explain what they are doing respectively sounds giving some idea what is going on e.g.:

Ducky: "Wait! I have an idea, I do! I do!"
Sound of Ducky's steps
Cera: "What is she doing now?"
Petrie: "She at that bush... Hey there still berries in that bush!"
Sound of snapping twig followed by Duckys approaching steps
Littlefoot: "Ducky, what...?"
Ducky (interrupting): "If he does not follow us, but loves eating he may follow the food instead, yes he may!"
...

One thing that might be altered a little is Spike's apparently being wide awake the whole time. In the movie we see him settle down to sleep at the end of the hatching scene. It might also be another thing for Cera to complain about.

Thanks again Kor :)
I really think you gave us something to work with :yes
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on December 18, 2008, 09:54:25 PM
being a rough first draft It'll need a lot of touching up.  

That is one of the 2 spots that is where there is an obvious cut to me.  The other is near the end where Littlefoot finds the Great Valley then heads out then comes back with the others.   I'm not sure if their dealing with the sharptooth in the original version happened after this or before as we saw.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: f-22 "raptor" ace on December 19, 2008, 12:41:18 AM
How about one where the GOF meets the LBT characters?
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on December 19, 2008, 04:00:28 AM
Here is the 2nd draft, likely not any better.  I dislike doing a large post so I'll break it in half for easier reading.  

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Littlefoot calling out as he is looking for Ducky: “Ducky, can you hear me?” His voice is in the distance.

Petrie says from the top of Littlefoot's head: “Me see Ducky.   She over there.”

Littlefoot : “I see her too, Ducky, hey Ducky.” Littlefoot says, his voice still in the distance.

Ducky turns at the sounds of the voiced of her new friends.  

Ducky: “over here!  I am over here, yes I am, yep, yep, yep.” She calls out jumping up and down a bit.

Then Ducky turns to Spike who is sleeping & making the usual sounds of Spike sleeping.

Ducky: “Those are my friends, we are going to the Great Valley, you can come too if you want, yes you can.”

Ducky walks over towards where the others are coming from.

The 3 others ( Littlefoot, Cera, & Petrie) arrive.

Cera: “Here you are.  Why did you go all the way over here?”

Ducky: “I had no choice.  You jumped on the log and I went flying, I did, I did.”

Cera says in an annoyed voice: “oh so it is my fault is it?”

Petrie: “You no flyer, you bigmouth.”

Ducky: “I know.”  Walking back towards where Spike is sleeping.

Petrie thinks for a moment: “What was it like?”

Ducky pauses in her walking to think for a moment before turning around to Petrie: “Sorta scary, but sorta fun too.”

Spike wakes up, yawning a short distance off.  

Littlefoot: “Who is that.” Seeing Spike for the first time.  

Ducky: “That is Spike, he is coming to the Great Valley with us, he is, he is.”

Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on December 19, 2008, 04:00:49 AM
Cera: “Oh, no he's not.” She says in an annoyed voice.

Ducky: “He is all alone.  I helpeded him to hatch, I did, I did.” She says with her voice showing her concern for Spike and her feelings he's all alone.

Littlefoot: “Maybe his Mommy and Daddy are at the Great Valley.” He says with some hope in his voice.

Cera: “He won't be able to keep up.  He'll just slow us down.” Said, still annoyed at another adition to the group.

Ducky: “He can keep up, he can.”

Littlefoot: “It would not be right to just leave him behind Cera.” Littlefoot says to Cera with his determination to bring Spike along.

Cera: “Look at how much he sleeps and eats.   And he doesn't look smart enough to know to follow us.”
She says, still annoyed, as Spike eats some nearby grass in a huge mouthful.

Ducky walked around as she looked around and saw a thin branch.  “I have an idea, I do, I do.”

She goes over and picks up a thin branch with some food on the end.  She waves it in front of Spike who licks his lips and  starts walking towards it.

Ducky: “See, he can follow us, he can, he can.”

Littlefoot: “Looks like a good idea Ducky.  You can ride on me.”

Cera in an annoyed voice, “Fine, but if he falls behind or slows us down I'm not going back for him.”

Ducky gets on Littlefoot, riding on his tail facing backward and holding up the branch with the leaf and the gang of now five sets out.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on January 04, 2009, 06:47:51 PM
I know that using RPs for scripts has already been suggested,but this proposal is sligtly different.

Maybe a small RP chat in some instant messaging system (the most commonly used) would work to create, even if not a definitive script, a base.
Additionaly, it would make sure it pleases "everyone" by using a single character per RPer. A few pairs could be made, and suggestion would be thrown in through the RP. It would be fairly smaller than ordinary RPs, to fit a small script style.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on January 05, 2009, 12:49:12 PM
It would be a different project though, not an LBT role play game. The advantage would be that RPG characters' voices needn't resemble that of any movie voice actor, but I guess it would be a project mostly for those involved in the RPG unless others too feel enough "with it" (and here is a point in favor of the LBT RPG, for there is hardly anyone here without enthusiasm for LBT) to participate actively.

I really think Kor provided a good basis for an audio play project and in fact the only complete script that has been issued here up to now.
Personally I would give his idea about an RPG reenacting a cut scene from the original movie my vote if it comes to deciding between the suggestions that have been made so far.
Once a suggestion has been accepted by so many people that a realization of the suggestion is possible the discussion about details (e.g. changes of the script) could start.
So far not too many suggestions have been made and even less actual scripts for an audio play project have been handed in.
Maybe activity about the audio play project can be increased if we set a deadline for the handing in of actual scripts.
I suggest that by February 5th (one month from now) all those who are willing to record their voice and thereby participate in the project may vote on the scripts posted here by that time.
Once the basic script for the first project (other suggestions might still be realized later on) has been selected the final details / changes about the script can be discussed.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on January 05, 2009, 06:35:53 PM
Acting out the cut scenes would be a good start, even though the parts would be short since it would give some the feel of what it's like to write, act, and other stages of doing an audio play.  Also doing short scenes that could have been in the movie, as I mentioned, like what if the movie began 5-10 minutes before it did or was longer then it was.  Or scenes that could be in the movie, like in the 4th one, maybe once they got back Ali's herd did not leave shortly after they got back.  

Then trying the German audio may be tried, and / or original things.  

If there are not enough female voice actors for all the female roles it mey be needed to substitute some of the characters, like having Littlefoot's grandfather have all the lines instead of most of them with some for grandma longneck, Ducky's father instead of her mother speaking, ect.  Since I assume there may be only 1-2 females willing to act.  Also if songs are to be in it, some of the folks may not feel comfortable singing and instead some of the folks who participate in the singing project but not the audio acting may sing a certain character's lines in the song.  

As for original characters, unless some have changed, I did mention it before but most didn't seem to like the idea.  I liked it since it does offer certain advantages.  For one you could have some smaller adults who are with the kids, since otherwise most of the gang mayl likely have adult sounding voices I'd guess.  Though if done the char would have to be pure LBT with no powers or any other non LBT thing & the char would have to be detailed and likely voted on like the scripts would likely be.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on January 05, 2009, 06:41:59 PM
Quote from: Kor,Jan 5 2009 on  10:35 PM
Also doing short scenes that could have been in the movie, as I mentioned, like what if the movie began 5-10 minutes before it did or was longer then it was.  Or scenes that could be in the movie, like in the 4th one, maybe once they got back Ali's herd did not leave shortly after they got back.
This. I'm working on a script with Vaan based on the 4th movie, but instead of Ali's herd leaving immediatly, we'll add, say, 5 minutes before leaving. Like, a small, minor adventure that could have happened before they departed, and that didn't last very long.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on January 05, 2009, 06:51:53 PM
That could fit since the movies do have a switch from one scene to another that, to me at least, makes it obvious that time passed, like before Ali's herd leaving.  They could have left a few days, weeks, ect after the gang & Ali got back with the night flowers.  

There are other spots in other movies like that too.  Like in the first movie when Littlefoot first gets to the Great Valley then leaves, then comes back out with his friends.  To me it seems that there was a cut there that an audio play could at least fill.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on January 05, 2009, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Kor,Jan 5 2009 on  10:51 PM
That could fit since the movies do have a switch from one scene to another that, to me at least, makes it obvious that time passed, like before Ali's herd leaving.  They could have left a few days, weeks, ect after the gang & Ali got back with the night flowers. 

There are other spots in other movies like that too.  Like in the first movie when Littlefoot first gets to the Great Valley then leaves, then comes back out with his friends.  To me it seems that there was a cut there that an audio play could at least fill.
That's more than enough examples for people to work on a small script themselves, too, don't you think?
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on January 31, 2009, 09:51:05 AM
February 5th is drawing closer as a "deadline" to hand in scripts. So far only two scripts have been handed in. The one I posted is not only incomplete so far, but also (I think) too ambitious for a first project.
So I think that so far Kor's script is the only script we have to work with.
Everyone is welcome to post more scripts to choose from until February 5th. If we have more than one script on February fifth we can vote to decide which script will be used. All those who are willing to actively participate in the project (those who hand in scripts, those who are willing to record and do voice acting roles, those who provide additional recordings of background sounds or music, those who cut the sounds together, and anyone else who is actively helping the project in any way) may cast their votes.
After a script is selected the details of the script should be worked out. Suggestions of improvements can be made and applied depending on the agreement (e.g. the inclusion of more details such as background sounds, the adding of further lines or the abandoning of lines (depending on the situation) etc.).
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on January 31, 2009, 09:59:42 AM
Sorry, but we weren't able to finish the script because wwe barely met each other on IM. I'll try to work on it by myself, but help is welcome too...  :lol:
Also, I might be considering entering into the voice acting crew, if I may, of course.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on January 31, 2009, 07:33:58 PM
I could try another very short mini scene if folks want to have 2 to vote from.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on January 31, 2009, 07:40:36 PM
If you want help, I would be more than glad to.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on January 31, 2009, 11:28:08 PM
ok.  It'll not be very good but I"ll throw together a first draft of the 2nd of 3 ideas I had of stuff from the 1st movie and pm it to you.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: LBTFan13 on February 03, 2009, 04:38:39 PM
I am at the moment too tied down to work on a script. However, I wouldn't mind lending a hand with the voice acting. I'm not too good at imitating child's voices, but if needed for one of the adults I could probably do fine :yes
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Malte279 on February 12, 2009, 06:10:55 AM
February 5th has come and passed without any further script being handed in. So I guess we should go for the script Kor handed in (the next step would be to discuss its details, check out roughly how long it takes to read it, possibly change, or amend a few lines, and think about which background noises appart from voices may be required).
However, I must admit that these days I'm very much hooked up by university work and may not muster as much leisure as I think this project thoroughly deserves.
Would it be okay for you to give it a break for some time (I solemnly promise that I won't let it die) until there is a bit less pressure of other concerns?
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Kor on February 12, 2009, 07:31:15 AM
It's ok by me.  I guess some others are busy also.  I do have a script I talked over with Explorer.  Though the reaction here seemed little so I wasn't sure if folks were busy or not very interested in the first one.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Mumbling on February 12, 2009, 10:52:22 AM
Quote from: Malte279,Feb 12 2009 on  12:10 PM
February 5th has come and passed without any further script being handed in. So I guess we should go for the script Kor handed in (the next step would be to discuss its details, check out roughly how long it takes to read it, possibly change, or amend a few lines, and think about which background noises appart from voices may be required).
However, I must admit that these days I'm very much hooked up by university work and may not muster as much leisure as I think this project thoroughly deserves.
Would it be okay for you to give it a break for some time (I solemnly promise that I won't let it die) until there is a bit less pressure of other concerns?
Sure that's fine. Real life should always be priority :yes
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Explorer on February 12, 2009, 04:29:02 PM
I wish I could have goten more ideas for that draft. However, I'm just plain... empty of them. I haven't had much leisure time either, though.
Title: Suggestions for audio play plots
Post by: Vaan360 on April 15, 2009, 06:50:47 PM
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Sorry, but we weren't able to finish the script because wwe barely met each other on IM. I'll try to work on it by myself, but help is welcome too...

Now I fell even worse <_< , I promised I would help and I dind't, I'm really sorry.