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Title: PS3
Post by: Littlefoot1616 on August 07, 2007, 09:37:31 PM
All things PS3 are up for discussion here...enjoy!  ;)
Title: PS3
Post by: Flathead770 on August 09, 2007, 04:37:09 PM
well i guess i'll break the ice here. First of all, does any one have a PS3? At the moment i don't think that the PS3 doesn't have a big enough library of good games and with the huge price tag, i'm not even interested in getting one.
Title: PS3
Post by: The Great Valley Guardian on August 09, 2007, 04:44:58 PM
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Posted on Aug 9 2007, 03:37 PM
  well i guess i'll break the ice here. First of all, does any one have a PS3? At the moment i don't think that the PS3 doesn't have a big enough library of good games and with the huge price tag, i'm not even interested in getting one. 


This is ture, a friend of mine has all three next gen. consoles, and virtually nothing for the PS3....
Title: PS3
Post by: Flathead770 on August 09, 2007, 06:42:00 PM
Theres some good games: Resistance fall of man is supposed to be a pretty good FPS, I played the demo for Motor Storm and seemed like it could be fun game and Ninja Gaiden Enigma might be good but i dunno if its out yet. Those area all the games i could come up with.
Title: PS3
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 09, 2007, 07:42:33 PM
Blah. As far as I'm concerned, the PS3 is anunnecessary waste of money. I'm not remotely impressed or interested with it. It costs too much for the overhyped over-glorified piece of machinary that it is, Sony is having FFVII remade in a feeble attempt to get more sales (which tells you just how badly its bombing), and the console, itself, forgets what it is: a console. You play games on it. It'd be nice to have all that memory room dedicated to games only, but no...a lot of those files are just about everything else, which I already own, and thus, giving me no reason to buy the PS3. Besides, the "Kingdom Hearts" games are thea mong the few things I've ever liked about the system. My ten cents received. Flame and bash as you will.
Title: PS3
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 10, 2007, 12:13:48 AM
I do want the PS3, but I'll wait until it gets cheaper, and when I have enough money.

Heh. I've met someone who deems the PS3 as superior to the Wii just because the PS3 has more power. It might have the power, but it's hardly affordable at this time. And I've begun to question the need of the blue-ray player. The blue-ray isn't even standard. Was it really necessary to equip the PS3 with one and make it almost twice as much as the Wii?

I'm not trying to provoke anyone here, so sorry if I offended anyone. As I said, I would like a PS3, but getting one now is out of the question.
Title: PS3
Post by: pokeplayer984 on August 10, 2007, 01:57:56 AM
I have seen the results of the PS3, and I am sorely disappointed.  The $600 price tag just isn't worth it.  The Cell that powers the PS3 is an arcriticuial disaster.  The games that are exclusive to multiple consoles take much longer to load on the PS3.  Plus the games aren't looking all that promising.

Sony knows that their hard core fans won't really know when something is just a collosual waste of money.

They stopped selling the 20 GB version when they went out of stock, and they only made a price drop on the 60 GB version to endorse sales and have anyone else buy the 80 GB version for what the 60 GB version used to be.

The only real point I see to the Blu-ray is for putting on just about as much as you want into a single disc.  50 GB on one disk is definately a lot of space.  I could actually see that being used for one season worth of a TV Series, or a really popular, very long movie that is packed with many hours worth of bonus material.  Aside from that, I think it's useless.

The thing is, people will eventually get smart and not buy this piece of junk.  If you ask me, Sony has already lost the war before it even began. :)
Title: PS3
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 10, 2007, 02:06:22 AM
I don't really think the PS3 is a "piece of junk". It's just ridiculously expensive.
Title: PS3
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 10, 2007, 03:57:52 AM
Feh! Having "more power" doesn't make a system better. How much fun you have playing the games on it and using the controls it comes with without having to worry about it over-heating is what makes a console great. With the Wii, I have absolutely no worries and a total blast, because I'm actually playing games (classic games when I download them). The only reason the PS3 has more power is because they had to make it that way because of all the other junk they added onto it that people already own. The Wii doesn't have a much power because it doesn't need it. Its a gaming console. The people making it actually remembered that, instead of strapping a bunch of irrelevant garbage onto it. And anything they do add to the Wii is gaming based. That person you mentioned who thinks the PS3 is better obviously has no bearing on what he's talking about.

I already a VCR, a DVD-Player, a VCR-DVD-Player Hybrid, a TV, tradition computer, a laptop, an at-home CD player, and a portible CD player. I have no need for any of that other shit that Sony hacked into the PS3, and their line-up of games from now to everything that's been announced in the future sucks. Whereas I can't get my hands on Wii games fast enough.

Oh yeah, Sony will finally be edged out of the gaming business and you'll only have X-Box and Nintendo to buy from. What you hate about Nintendo so much, Dark, I will never know.
Title: PS3
Post by: landbeforetimelover on August 10, 2007, 04:00:34 AM
I got a ps3 for my birthday and I've never used it.  I wouldn't know what to do with it. :blink:  It's still in the box.
Title: PS3
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 10, 2007, 04:24:09 AM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Aug 10 2007 on  03:57 AM
Feh! Having "more power" doesn't make a system better. How much fun you have playing the games on it and using the controls it comes with without having to worry about it over-heating is what makes a console great. With the Wii, I have absolutely no worries and a total blast, because I'm actually playing games (classic games when I download them). The only reason the PS3 has more power is because they had to make it that way because of all the other junk they added onto it that people already own. The Wii doesn't have a much power because it doesn't need it. Its a gaming console. The people making it actually remembered that, instead of strapping a bunch of irrelevant garbage onto it. And anything they do add to the Wii is gaming based. That person you mentioned who thinks the PS3 is better obviously has no bearing on what he's talking about.

Oh yeah, Sony will finally be edged out of the gaming business and you'll only have X-Box and Nintendo to buy from. What you hate about Nintendo so much, Dark, I will never know.
I've found myself defending the Nintendo Wii when this guy started to criticize it just because it's "underpowered". Apparently to him, it's all about the power, not considering the other qualities. I may not like the Wii too much, but I certainly wouldn't underestimate what it's truly capable of. PS3 might have the power, but power alone isn't enough. I just wish he'd acknowledge that.

I'm not entirely sure if Sony will completely drop out of making game consoles. Ah well, we'll find out sooner or later.

And I apologize if I gave the impression earlier that I hate Nintendo. I can't really say I hate it. I just haven't found many games that I really enjoy on it. Super Mario Brothers, Super Mario World, and Metroid Prime are a few Nintendo games I've enjoyed playing.
Title: PS3
Post by: Manny Cav on August 10, 2007, 09:55:55 AM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Aug 10 2007 on  02:57 AM
And anything they do add to the Wii is gaming based.
I don't own a Wii, but I hear that there are a lot of internet features on it that have absolutely nothing to do with gaming at all.

This is also starting to sound like a heated "console war" debate where flames could break out. I think Littlefoot1616 said something about this. You especially know someone's not exactly happy when they use sh*t like that.
Title: PS3
Post by: Sky on August 10, 2007, 11:09:07 AM
I don't own a PS3 and i'm not planing to buy one.
It's not a "piece of junk" either.
It's just ridiculously expensive.

I could buy a new computer with it with some other things instead.  :blink:
Nintendo is the only one who knows what we want: A "Gaming Console".
And not a Multimedia-Center.  :unsure:
Title: PS3
Post by: Manny Cav on August 10, 2007, 11:47:52 AM
Wait, they're doing a 80 GB version? Hasn't Sonly learned their lesson already?

EDIT: LOL at the spelling mistake! :lol
Title: PS3
Post by: The Great Valley Guardian on August 10, 2007, 11:51:45 AM
I too believe it is way over-priced...I mean is anyone except the hard core Sony gamers really willing and able to burn $600 dollars on a system with so few games? it just dosne't make sense to me...
Title: PS3
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 10, 2007, 12:50:57 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav,Aug 10 2007 on  09:55 AM
This is also starting to sound like a heated "console war" debate where flames could break out. I think Littlefoot1616 said something about this. You especially know someone's not exactly happy when they use sh*t like that.
I hope this topic doesn't turn into a heated console debate.
Title: PS3
Post by: Threehorn on August 10, 2007, 12:56:08 PM
For me the PS3 is a complete waste of money. I am not even going to try and get it I am very happy with my Wii, DS and Xbox 360.

I believe that the PS3 isn't worth the money they selling it for and what I know of it cost a lot more to make then they are selling as well. I think Sony finally hit the crunch and lost the fight against Microsoft and Nintendo. That what i believe though.
Title: PS3
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 10, 2007, 02:37:50 PM
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I don't own a Wii, but I hear that there are a lot of internet features on it that have absolutely nothing to do with gaming at all.
Actually, the internet hook-up is to download older games they have on their website.

Aright, fair enough, Dark. Just remember that without Nintendo,we wouldn't have video games, period, anymore.
Title: PS3
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 10, 2007, 02:48:43 PM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Aug 10 2007 on  02:37 PM
Aright, fair enough, Dark. Just remember that without Nintendo,we wouldn't have video games, period, anymore.
Ah yes, I heard about that video game crash in the..80s was it? And how Nintendo saved the video gaming industry by introducng Super Mario Brothers, which I believe was the first game of its kind, with levels and wasn't geared towards just getting high scores. I didn't know about that until recently. I was too young when this was going on.
Title: PS3
Post by: Manny Cav on August 10, 2007, 03:44:07 PM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Aug 10 2007 on  01:37 PM
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I don't own a Wii, but I hear that there are a lot of internet features on it that have absolutely nothing to do with gaming at all.
Actually, the internet hook-up is to download older games they have on their website.
...and to get weather, news, and surf the web in general....

As for a PS3, I would actually want one, since my PlayStation original isn't in top condition any longer. The graphics are really glitchy and mess up on me a lot. However, I seriously doubt I could use all of it's fancy features to justify the $500 price on it. I was actually looking into a PS2 as a good alternative.
Title: PS3
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 10, 2007, 06:32:45 PM
After the fact that you're hooked up to the internet, its only natural to surf, but seriously, that's why they added the internet hook-up. Instead of porting old games over to the new system or make hook-ups to play the old games on the new system, they had them downloaded onto a site where you can link to.
Title: PS3
Post by: pokeplayer984 on August 10, 2007, 07:02:59 PM
Okay WR, since you seem to know so much about gaming, name the one game that is arguably said to be THE game that caused the crash of 1983. ;)

Anyways, yeah, I think the PS3 is dead already.  I was going to buy it for my birthday, but things just aren't looking good anymore and I don't want to be a part of this sucky system. -_-

I'm using the $600 to buy a new 360 Elite and some games for when my brother-in-law moves out and takes the 360 we currently have with him. :)
Title: PS3
Post by: Nimrod on August 11, 2007, 04:11:51 AM
Quote from: pokeplayer984,Aug 10 2007 on  06:02 PM
Okay WR, since you seem to know so much about gaming, name the one game that is arguably said to be THE game that caused the crash of 1983. ;)

Anyways, yeah, I think the PS3 is dead already.  I was going to buy it for my birthday, but things just aren't looking good anymore and I don't want to be a part of this sucky system. -_-

I'm using the $600 to buy a new 360 Elite and some games for when my brother-in-law moves out and takes the 360 we currently have with him. :)
Well,

At the first, I agrre with you all, that the PS3 is very expensive now.
I¥ll wait til the PS3 don¥t cost the much any longer. -_-
Title: PS3
Post by: Nimrod on August 11, 2007, 04:14:54 AM
Quote from: pokeplayer984,Aug 10 2007 on  06:02 PM
Okay WR, since you seem to know so much about gaming, name the one game that is arguably said to be THE game that caused the crash of 1983. ;)

Anyways, yeah, I think the PS3 is dead already.  I was going to buy it for my birthday, but things just aren't looking good anymore and I don't want to be a part of this sucky system. -_-

I'm using the $600 to buy a new 360 Elite and some games for when my brother-in-law moves out and takes the 360 we currently have with him. :)
As the second, yes pokerplayer, if you don¥t want to have the PS3 anyway, it will be the correct, I think to buy hisself sth. other. ;)
Title: PS3
Post by: Cyberlizard on August 14, 2007, 06:26:04 PM
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Okay WR, since you seem to know so much about gaming, name the one game that is arguably said to be THE game that caused the crash of 1983. wink.gif

Duh.  EVERYBODY know what caused the crash of 1983...  <_<  I personally hate the PS3.  If I wanted a big, shiney, media-center-computer-wannabe that stamps label "I have small privates," onto my forehead I would buy it.  But no.  I'm looking for a GAMING CONSOLE!  GAMES AND NOTHING MORE!  Not all this extra blu ray and cell processor crap.  Give the cell processor to the computers and blu ray to the movie business.  Because all I want is to play games!
Title: PS3
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 14, 2007, 06:42:54 PM
Quote from: Cyberlizard,Aug 14 2007 on  06:26 PM
Duh.  EVERYBODY know what caused the crash of 1983...
Not everybody. I don't know what game caused the crash.
Title: PS3
Post by: Manny Cav on August 14, 2007, 07:17:41 PM
Was it some whack E.T. game?
Title: PS3
Post by: pokeplayer984 on August 15, 2007, 01:38:10 AM
Quote from: Manny Cav,Aug 14 2007 on  06:17 PM
Was it some whack E.T. game?
Okay, seeing as how WR is avoiding this place, the game that is said to be THE game that caused the crash of 1983, was infact E.T. for the Atari.

How did it happen because of this game?  Well, it goes to show that taking your time was just as important back then as it is now.  It was created in only 5 weeks.  It got even worse with the fact of how many copies of the game were made for launch.  400 million!  It was said to be the greatest game ever before it came out.  However, it became the exact opposite.  As a result, despite every single one of them being bought, nearly all were returned.  Less than 100 were kept, mainly because some people don't know what to do with a crappy game or are too lazy to do anything about it.  The bottom line is that because of E.T., the gaming indistury went into great debt and for 3 years, it seemed impossible to recover from it and that gaming was lost forever.

Super Mario Bros. and The Legend of Zelda are the games responsible for bringing gaming back to life.  If it weren't for them, we wouldn't even have video games today. :)
Title: PS3
Post by: Flathead770 on August 15, 2007, 02:46:12 AM
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Duh. EVERYBODY know what caused the crash of 1983...  I personally hate the PS3. If I wanted a big, shiney, media-center-computer-wannabe that stamps label "I have small privates," onto my forehead I would buy it. But no. I'm looking for a GAMING CONSOLE! GAMES AND NOTHING MORE! Not all this extra blu ray and cell processor crap. Give the cell processor to the computers and blu ray to the movie business. Because all I want is to play games!
Beautifully said!

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It was created in only 5 weeks. It got even worse with the fact of how many copies of the game were made for launch. 400 million! It was said to be the greatest game ever before it came out. However, it became the exact opposite. As a result, despite every single one of them being bought, nearly all were returned.
The game was incomplete as well and just ended up play a game of pong or something.
Title: PS3
Post by: WeirdRaptor on August 15, 2007, 07:11:18 AM
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Okay, seeing as how WR is avoiding this place, the game that is said to be THE game that caused the crash of 1983, was infact E.T. for the Atari.
Actually, I'm not.

By the way, I didn't know what game caused the gaming depression of '83, but who cares, that doesn't make me a novice when concerning gaming knowledge overall.
Title: PS3
Post by: Cyberlizard on August 15, 2007, 11:57:25 AM
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THE game that caused the crash of 1983, was infact E.T. for the Atari.

That is in fact correct.  And after they were returned ALL 400 MILLION COPIES were dumped in a giant landfill in New Mexico and have been buried there ever since.  :p  True story.
Title: PS3
Post by: pokeplayer984 on August 15, 2007, 12:21:06 PM
Quote from: Cyberlizard,Aug 15 2007 on  10:57 AM
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THE game that caused the crash of 1983, was infact E.T. for the Atari.

That is in fact correct.  And after they were returned ALL 400 MILLION COPIES were dumped in a giant landfill in New Mexico and have been buried there ever since.  :p  True story.
Not quite ALL.  I know a few people who still own a copy, just to let it either collect dust or end up getting completely obliterated in the most imaginative way possible. :^.^:
Title: PS3
Post by: Cyberlizard on August 15, 2007, 01:14:51 PM
Well, yeah.  I actually meant to say all of the copies that were returned.  ^^;;;
Title: PS3
Post by: Littlefoot1616 on August 23, 2007, 07:29:54 PM
<refering back to topic>

Everyone knows that the PS3 was a flop on it's release. However, given that fact, I must admit, I for one will probably end up with one at some stage but this will purely be on the basis of the games available and nothing else. The Blu-ray facility doesn't interest me nor does the mass of compatible technologies that can link to it. It's always been the games that draw me to a particular console. Games such as MGS4, Resi 5, DMC4, Final Fantasy 13 and various others. I know that many of these games are gonna run across the format board but I guess, because I had a PS2, I'm sticking to the devil I know. Graphical processing power and pixel clarity isn't really something I look for in a game, it's all about the gameplay for me. I'll eventually wind up with a PS3 in the near future but I'm not desperate for it. I can sit and wait for the range of games I want to hit the shelves before I'll consider grabbing one myself
Title: PS3
Post by: pokeplayer984 on October 09, 2007, 12:18:35 PM
Well, what I saw today probably shows just how much trouble the PS3 is in.  I was watching America's most popular game show, The Price is Right, and when they got to the second showcase, the first prize was... a PS3 with some of the worst games it has brought out. (Yes, even Sonic the Hedgehog Next Gen., which PSM gave a 2.0 rating.)

If you ask me, giving it away on a game show like this only proves how desperate Sony is at this point.

Has the PS3 lost just within it's first year?  If so, I'm not surprised. -_-
Title: PS3
Post by: Manny Cav on November 08, 2007, 11:39:58 PM
You'd think that Sony would learn their lesson, but they didn't.

So, they started out with a 20GB PS3 for $499, and a 60GB PS3 for $599. They discontinued the 20 GB one, probably due to low sales, then dropped the price for the 60GB one to $499, as a clearance sale, because I hear the 60GB ones aren't to be produced anymore. THEN, they went around, made a $399 40GB PS3 and a $499 80GB PS3. They didn't learn.... You can find most of this stuff out by poking around http://www.us.playstation.com/ (http://www.us.playstation.com/).