The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => LBT Projects => Topic started by: pokeplayer984 on May 22, 2008, 09:33:59 AM
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Basically guys, I've had it. I've had it with all the lies and bad influencial stuff that come from people that basically hate LBT. It's time the truth was told about it all and I plan to do it with some vids.
I've got some plans in mind of what to say on the stuff in the end. I'm unsure of how many vids I'll have to make because of the length limit I've got with my membership on YouTube. (Posting it there because it's the best chance to attract people.)
One thing I will tell you is that it will, of course, contain LBT footage that will hopefully help point out the subject better and also end the lies once and for all. (Or at least decrease them somewhat.)
Understand guys, I've just basically had it and I want to do something about it, and this is what I came up with. Hopefully, things will work out in the end. :)
Well, I'll see ya guys later. :^.^:
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good luck on your project.
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I'm here to help.. ^^
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I'm here to help.. ^^
Same here mate, good luck! :^.^:
That's super of you to do a project like this! :yes
You have my full support in this! :)
/Lillefot
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i'm not gonna help but i gonna support you,
go! pokerplayer go!
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Which lies are you referring to pokeplayer? Are there any which could easily be taken for truth by any reader? Many of the texts on LBT which include false statements are such extreme "sermons of hatred" that most people would recognize them as not objective and trustworthy.
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I think he is reffering to those unbelievable things malte. For us they are not logical, but for some they might be. They want to hate LBT because others like it.
For example take a good friend of mine, jasmijn. When I told her I loved LBT she said: 'What?!... You aren't serious about that' I asked her why she thought bad about it. She told me: 'Someone I knew always used to watch that when we were younger. I hate that girl, so I hate LBT.' She herself has never seen it at all.. :p
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All right! Go for it, pokeplayer! It's high time we stood up for ourselves!
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I think he is reffering to those unbelievable things malte. For us they are not logical, but for some they might be. They want to hate LBT because others like it.
For example take a good friend of mine, jasmijn. When I told her I loved LBT she said: 'What?!... You aren't serious about that' I asked her why she thought bad about it. She told me: 'Someone I knew always used to watch that when we were younger. I hate that girl, so I hate LBT.' She herself has never seen it at all.. :p
You pretty much said it all, Mumbling. :)
I'm still trying to figure it all out. This could take a while. -_- (Not that I'm not willing to do it. I just don't have much time on my hands these days. :P:)
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Perfectly understandable, bro... I've still got time on my hands though, but, that will change soon, I think...
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I¥ll be there for help too, if you need some screenshots or music :yes
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I would love to support. So I will.
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No need to hurry. Best to take it one step at a time when you have time and go back over some things a second time to be sure it's the way you want it.
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The biggest thing is that since I removed my recordings of the full LBT movies, I have to put them back up. It's going to take a few weeks to do that part of it. While we wait for this, how about you guys give me ideas of which subjects I should talk about.
I know a few of them, but what else is there?
Also, what would you guys like me to talk about first?
Remember, popular choice will win! :)
Well, that's all I have to say right now. So, I'll see ya later! :^.^:
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I'm always good at providing ideas. :yes
Let's see... Perhaps you should identify the things about LBT that makes people hate it. *pauses to think more* Then maybe you should try to find things that disprove all the lies you have heard about. Hopefully, you'll be able to show more of the "good things" about LBT than the "bad things". This is all I can think of for now.
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Dude, that is an EXCELLENT idea! ...Why didn't I think of that myself? :lol:
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That sounds like a good idea. You can use that as a start, it may give you ideas for other things to do.
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tell us when you ready OK?
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& don't forget links to where you upload the videos or have them.
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I'm always good at providing ideas. :yes
Let's see... Perhaps you should identify the things about LBT that makes people hate it. *pauses to think more* Then maybe you should try to find things that disprove all the lies you have heard about. Hopefully, you'll be able to show more of the "good things" about LBT than the "bad things". This is all I can think of for now.
Seems like everyone's agreeing with you thus far.
So, let's start identifying what it is that makes others HATE LBT.
Okay, go!
(Note: Please keep the flaming and bashing to a minimum. I want this topic to stay.)
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Well.. They might hate it because:
...they think it is childish and they do not want to be seen as a little child
...their parents say it is stupid(that happens)
...others(like friends) influence their opinions
...the songs of the movie, some might not like lbt because of that
...they haven't seen it yet and their motto is 'what has not yet been seen cannot be nice'
...they had to watch it from their parents as a kid while they actually want to play outside, and they didn't like it anymore because they were forced to.
I think it is a good idea to ask LBT haters on youtube why they hate it =P. Well.. not on youtube, maybe in real life.
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Well.. They might hate it because:
...they had to watch it from their parents as a kid while they actually want to play outside, and they didn't like it anymore because they were forced to.
Can't blame them with that one. There are shows I hate for that reason too. :D
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Well.. They might hate it because:
...they had to watch it from their parents as a kid while they actually want to play outside, and they didn't like it anymore because they were forced to.
Can't blame them with that one. There are shows I hate for that reason too. :D
You could blame the parents.
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In that case the parents are more to blame then the show is, but most folks may not see that.
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I'm not online much, but most of the anti-LBT stuff is directed toward the sequels, not the original movie. They believe that the sequels are profit-oriented ripoffs of a classic hoping to capitalize on the short-lived "anthropomorphic dinosaur" fad (which spawned such titles as Dink, Disney's Dinosaur, and We're back!). However, what makes LBT different is the fact that it is still around while the others died out when the fad ended.
There are also those who dislike sequels 6-13 because they have become more campy and kid-oriented, supposedly losing the feel of the original completely. In TV, the term is "jumping the shark," though I don't think the term applies to video sequels (probably because most movie series don't get more than two or three sequels). Since this argument is more opinion than fact, there's no real way to debase it, other than to point it out as a logical fallacy.
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I've heard (or rather read) many people state that they really like the first movie but hate the sequels. In some cases it turned out that those who wrote so had seen none or only one of the sequels (or at least very, very few of them) and based their opinion mainly on the statements of others.
On the other hand there are of course quite a few differences between the original and the sequels and it is so common for sequels of a good movie to be poor in quality that it is not a big surprise when people are biased against sequels.
There are even GOF members who repeatedly stated that they like the original movie only though I cannot help doubting the total truth in the statement in case of some of them who are active in non-original discussions as well.
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If you want to show that LBT isn't all kiddy, what you do need to do is put in sharptooth scenes from the first film. There is definitely a part with Littlefoot's mum gets a chunk of her back ripped out (shadows of course, but still there). That would be a start.
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I've heard (or rather read) many people state that they really like the first movie but hate the sequels. In some cases it turned out that those who wrote so had seen none or only one of the sequels (or at least very, very few of them) and based their opinion mainly on the statements of others.
On the other hand there are of course quite a few differences between the original and the sequels and it is so common for sequels of a good movie to be poor in quality that it is not a big surprise when people are biased against sequels.
There are even GOF members who repeatedly stated that they like the original movie only though I cannot help doubting the total truth in the statement in case of some of them who are active in non-original discussions as well.
Ohh, now there's some information that will really come in handy. Thanks, Malte. :)
If you want to show that LBT isn't all kiddy, what you do need to do is put in sharptooth scenes from the first film. There is definitely a part with Littlefoot's mum gets a chunk of her back ripped out (shadows of course, but still there). That would be a start.
I've definitely got quite a number of non-kiddy scenes in mind. (The one you mentioned, LBT 2's scene where Littlefoot's grandparents talked to him about babies, etc.) Seriously, how can you call it "kiddy" with those kinds of scenes?
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^ However, it won't do to put up these things without actual proof pokeplayer. Anyone could claim that people who dislike LBT sequels have not seen them at all. One would have to see the discussion threads or email texts in which the respective statements were made. Unfortunately the only examples the whereabouts I know are in a closed forum for students in Germany so they wouldn't be visible for any user :(
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There are likely other non kiddie scenes also in other movies and tv series. I've not seen 11, but I think Tria is in it for the first time. Cera dealing with the closeness of Tria and her dad I'd guess isn't to kiddy. Her dealing with the fact she'll not be the only kid in the family is another maybe.
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^ However, it won't do to put up these things without actual proof pokeplayer. Anyone could claim that people who dislike LBT sequels have not seen them at all. One would have to see the discussion threads or email texts in which the respective statements were made. Unfortunately the only examples the whereabouts I know are in a closed forum for students in Germany so they wouldn't be visible for any user :(
There are certian things that even haters can identify within a movie they've seen and didn't like. Figuring out that is the only tricky part, but that's where you can get those that are giving out the hatred without even seeing it in the first place. ;)
There are likely other non kiddie scenes also in other movies and tv series.
The main problem is that finding such scenes in G and Y rated stuff is tricky these days. The writers were quite daring in the ninties and earlier. (Static Shock, Gargoyles, most of what Universal did in the 80s, I could go on. :P:) However, today some people feel that they just want to make a quick buck and don't take proper care into quality television. On top of that, there's rumor going around that the censors are starting to get more strict with such a level. Seriously, it's hard to put in certian things unless you make them a teaching tool of some kind. (Arthur did the death issue quite nicely.)
Seriously, to EVERY writer of a kid's cartoon show, start doing it right. You'll get more fans that way. :D
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Yes, that is one think no one who works in the field seems to understand, or at least no one who is among those in charge is realizing that they'll get more fans and likely a larger profit if they did things well, hired only good writers, & directors, ect.
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Hmm; to me, it's less likely that they don't realize it, and more likely that they just don't care. They don't want to put true LOVE into something, to make it better, it would appear. It seems like most of them only really care about the money involved...
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Making a profit and not caring is how many humans are, especially in certain areas like Hollywood.
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I'm definitely going to take a break from this when I leave the board for a while. Don't worry, I'll get right back on it when I return. I still intend to do this. However, it's apparent that I need a break from all LBT things in general, so even this will have to be stopped for a bit.
Don't worry, this thing won't die. I don't plan for it to. ;)
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We got ya! Hmm, for some reason, the title to a Miles Davis track just flashed in my head; "Go Ahead John." From "Big Fun." Heh! So, go ahead, John! ;) Do what you have to do, friend; take a break, and when you return, we'll all be behind you! :wave
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Keep in mind folks are entitled to freedom of self-expression. However, I do not agree with hate vids or hatefics of LBT in any fashion :angry:. I do support your decision to make this vid, but I can't think of any "nice" ways to address haters. It especially irks me when I see hatefics on FANfiction.net. Hello, folks! It's a fansite, not a site to post hatefics and seriously p*** fans off. Maybe that's why they do it; to get a rise out of fans <_<. Just know I've got your back on this one when ya return :yes ;)!
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http://leeham991.deviantart.com/art/The-la...e-time-88193030 (http://leeham991.deviantart.com/art/The-land-before-time-88193030)
I know this guy, he once said I should stop making fanart.. :p
Anyway, here you see him hating the lbt sequels. ( and the why's)
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He is free to dislike the sequels, I"m sure some do. And with the latter sequels having a different feel then the early ones, and both having a different feel then the first I can understand why some may not like any of the sequels. And some see anything animated as childlish, one of the stigmas anything animated tends to have with most folks in this country.
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As for LBT 10, you might want to take a look at this thread (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=381) Kor.
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Keep in mind folks are entitled to freedom of self-expression. However, I do not agree with hate vids or hatefics of LBT in any fashion :angry:. I do support your decision to make this vid, but I can't think of any "nice" ways to address haters. It especially irks me when I see hatefics on FANfiction.net. Hello, folks! It's a fansite, not a site to post hatefics and seriously p*** fans off. Maybe that's why they do it; to get a rise out of fans <_<. Just know I've got your back on this one when ya return :yes ;)!
Well, it's not surprising that you can't figure out a way to say something nice. They brought forth the hatred and they're going to get it right back in their faces. :D
I also agree with you on the hate related projects. I'm definately going to have to make a vid about that. :)
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I know this guy, he once said I should stop making fanart.. :p
Anyway, here you see him hating the lbt sequels. ( and the why's)
Seriously, this loser has too much time on his hands :lol :lol!
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Well, I'm back on it again. Currently working on getting LBT 2 recorded into my computer. :) (I only have the VHS version, so I have to use a special adaptar that connects from my VCR/DVD Player to my PC.) I've had earlier problems trying to convert it. I always got some sort of error message. However, I think I have fixed the problem and let's just see what happens. :)
Hmm, if things go well, I might be able to get it all recorded by July, so I can start the vids by then. So, we could be looking at August here for my first vid.
Sorry you have to wait until the last month of summer vacation for those that will be going to school again when it's over, but I can't exactly speed up the process here and it's the best I can do at the moment.
Well, see ya later! :^.^:
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That's okay :D We don't expect you to be a fast train, rushing over the rails.. :^.^:
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Best to take your time and be careful then rushing.
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Best to take your time and be careful then rushing.
Too true! I can't tell you HOW many things I've seen end in disaster when they're rushed.
Anyways, looks like LBT 2 converted to my PC just fine. It's currently being saved. This is going to take a while on the account my progam does it at 30 to 35 frames a second (pretty much random within that area that it gets per second.) and there's a total of 132110 frames to save, which is looking at over an hour in the end.
Tomorrow, I'll try to compact one of the TV Series DVDs I have on my computer. I definitely need to make some space as I'm down to 20 GB now. (Though 5.5 GB worth is used up due to a torrent of 52 episodes of an old TV show I recently downloaded. I plan on finishing it ASAP and so that I can get it out of the way and get some space.)
Plus, I've definately got upcoming plans to move them onto DVD disks that I plan to give to my cousin. After all, since there's been a shortage of them at the stores in my state, I have to do something to ensure my cousin can have them. I'll also make copies for myself and so that I can free up the space on my computer to have room for the many vids to come.
As you can see, I've got alot of work ahead of me before I can get started.
Wish me luck on it all. :)
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Good luck. It does look like you'll be busy for quite a while.
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Good luck John. If you need any help we're here :)
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I am sad to report that this project is being put on hold while I'm busy having LBTlover help me reformat my computer. We ran into a little snag and it could be a bit before we're completed with it.
So, until further notice, there will be NO working on this project. Sorry! :(
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That is ok. I hope everything works out. Some things are more important then working on a video, especially when your computer needs to be seen to and gotten back to working order.
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Hey there everyone! I'm back on my Desktop! It's time to get back on this.
Just need to redownload a little thing and I'm good to go!
I'll see ya all later!
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I'm glad you finally got things back to normal. Welcome Back.