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Title: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: rhombus on December 31, 2019, 01:52:10 AM
Well, the new year is almost here. So at any time now we should expect our first antagonist to appear...

(https://media.giphy.com/media/ka5wL55JCWPqPIggjf/giphy.gif)

And there he is!  Really, there was only one way to begin the Year of the Antagonist, and that is with the original sharptooth who started it all.  For January 2020 we will be showcasing - Sharptooth!

In this topic please feel free to discuss Sharptooth as a character, to share your own creations (fanfics or fanart), or to mention some of your favorite fanworks of others involving this character.  For a full set of rules please see the  2020 Monthly Character Showcase topic (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=16571.msg497476#msg497476) but keep in mind that this is meant to be fun as opposed to any sort of contest.

I will go ahead and get the discussion started with the following questions:

1) How do you see the original Sharptooth in terms of his motivations?  Is he to be seen as a villain, or as merely another hungry predator in the Mysterious Beyond?

2) What qualities do you think the original Sharptooth has that subsequent sharpteeth in the series lacked?
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: rhombus on December 31, 2019, 01:47:56 PM
And bumped now that it is out of the admin area.  :evilsmile
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Sneak on December 31, 2019, 04:39:42 PM
YES

will write here after celebration is over.
Sorry, Tyran. Don't eat me.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Anagnos on January 01, 2020, 06:39:45 AM
I am glad to see the Character Showcase return for another year and we do have very interesting characters to converse about this time. Without further ado, let’s get right into it…

I believe it is a highly controversial discussion whether sharptooth was a cruel villain who caused an unnecessary death or simply just an individual trying to survive in the brutal world as a predator. In order to properly understand him and his goal, merely observing Littlefoot’s perspective on the entire thing is not suitable enough as that doesn’t give the needed outlook on his characterization.

First of all, one must understand how difficult life must be in a world like this. Furthermore, in order for him to survive in this crude existence, he must devour others to placate his increasing hunger, and while that is not enough to label him as a monster, herbivores obviously do not see it this way as to them sharpteeth are simply just murderous beasts and nothing more.

Do I think that he is merely a villain seeking for nothing but satiation at the expanse of others? No, I do not believe that. But just because I can find myself sympathizing with him doesn’t mean that he hasn’t done terrible things in order to survive. I think everyone of us would make equally terrible things when the need to survive outweighs everything else. It is what you might call a survival instinct – nothing else besides that matters in the entire world, even if you would have to resort to murder.

Moreover, the film clearly only presents him as a villain desperate to conquer, but how can we be certain that he doesn’t feel regret over his actions while out of the shot? Perhaps the producers thought about this little fact that would have managed to humanize him, but perchance chose not to go with that as I don’t think many of us would have understood that when we were children.

I would like to remind people that these are only my personal feelings of the spoken character and by no means confirmed information. Anyone can make their own speculations about the Sharptooth and I think that there is not a single right answer or theory in that regard.

To end this post, I would like to post a little something that Don Bluth himself said about the Sharptooth as I really believe it brings more out the more unseen qualities of his personality in a rather simple way as this:

''Was he deficient in kindness and mercy? No! Was he evolutionary arrested or r******d? No! Simply put he was hungry. It is the law of nature to seek out food to satiate the appetite. So I reasoned, how could I hate the beast for doing what nature instinctively ordained? Just because he was big, growling and hungry didn't make him malevolent. He needed to step outside nature's boundaries to be a bad guy, embrace brutality over compassion, and harbour a vendetta or grudge that could twist his soul into an unnatural existence. That would be a true villain. Creative ideas are born out of conflict. I wanted a more dimensional bad guy, but I was outnumbered and finally gave in. Steven and George, in fact, the whole team, felt that the Rex's teeth did the job. More evil could be over-kill. If something can bite you, that's reason enough to fear it. The dinosaur children, simply put, are terrorized by their natural enemy. Although I knew our story would pack a dramatic wallop to the audience if they could hate Rex, not just fear him, I grew weary of pitching the idea. The most horrific villains are those who appear confident, cool and in control at first glance, while beneath the skin, you sense something is terribly wrong, and you never suspect the magnitude of the twisted horror inside until it is too late."
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StrutEggStealer on January 02, 2020, 06:17:42 PM
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1) How do you see the original Sharptooth in terms of his motivations?  Is he to be seen as a villain, or as merely another hungry predator in the Mysterious Beyond?

2) What qualities do you think the original Sharptooth has that subsequent sharpteeth in the series lacked?

As a child watching the Original Land Before Time, I remember viewing the Sharptooth as a force to be reckoned with: a fierce, hungry, prowling beast. In short, I really didn't like him. From the angles of the scenes and the way he was portrayed, I clearly remember feeling my skin crawl as I watched that great big looming shadow appear to Littlefoot and Cera, and then hear the thud of footsteps and finally that horrible shrieking roar.

Now as a grown-up, I believe I've come to view Sharptooth as an animal out for his next meal, similarly to how Anagnos described him. And I agree that since the movie is largely from a child's perspective, that the world is big and scary and dangerous (Not saying it ain't to a grownup as well lol).

1) Considering my two very different viewpoints of this character taken at different points in my life, I can say that he's just out for himself, a lone bull wandering the prairies. Sharptooth is hungry and is simply following the rules of nature.

2) Now this is where is gets interesting: this Sharptooth was much more threatening, much more evil, and far more dangerous because of the perspective of the movie: younglings perceiving a threat. Sharptooth was primal and wild and terrifying. He didn't care WHO he went after as long as it meant food. While the resulting sharpteeth in the series had their moments, none of them could quite match that fear, that unsease that OG Sharptooth evoked onscreen :)
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StardustSoldier on January 10, 2020, 01:04:46 AM
Happy New Year everyone! I too would like to voice my pleasure at seeing the Character Showcase return for another year. I think these threads are a fantastic idea. :DD

The first Land Before Time antagonist, and in my opinion, still the best. :)

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1) How do you see the original Sharptooth in terms of his motivations?  Is he to be seen as a villain, or as merely another hungry predator in the Mysterious Beyond?

2) What qualities do you think the original Sharptooth has that subsequent sharpteeth in the series lacked?

I haven't read the Illustrated Story book adaptation myself, but I am aware that it portrays Sharptooth as much more overtly sinister, rather than simply being a hungry predator. However, I think I like his portrayal in the film better. It gives him just the right touch of ambiguity regarding his true motives. If anything, I think it makes him scarier if we don't know exactly what he's thinking.

Although that said, I personally thought he still came off sinister even then, so it's not hard to imagine him as a genuine villain even if we don't see inside his head.

As for what he has that many other Sharpteeth lack, he comes off much more dangerous and intimidating. Which is interesting when you think about it, because he set the template for most of the Sharpteeth in the sequels, and he really isn't portrayed all that differently from his successors. One thing that does add to his menace is...
Spoiler: ShowHide
He actually kills someone.
That, and the darker tone of the first film in general lends itself well to making him stand out as an antagonist. Still, it does make me wonder why many of the later Sharpteeth just weren't as threatening.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Mumbling on January 15, 2020, 05:26:21 AM
Ahh, this will be a good year for the character showcase! Time to put the baddies in the spotlight  :evilsmile

1) How do you see the original Sharptooth in terms of his motivations?  Is he to be seen as a villain, or as merely another hungry predator in the Mysterious Beyond?

2) What qualities do you think the original Sharptooth has that subsequent sharpteeth in the series lacked?

This first question is an interesting one. I would definitely not call him a villain per se, as we don't know his reasoning (unlike some of the other antagonists in the sequels, who had evil plans). A hungry predator is much more likely, though you would also think that baby dinosaurs would not make the most filling meal. Looking at real world predators, it is of course easier to hunt down the young or ill compared to a fully grown dinosaur. But since we just had this massive earthshake after the first encounter with sharptooth, you would think that dead or wounded dinosaurs could be found all over the place. T-rexes are probably no scavengers, but if they are hungry they would probably go for a dead adult rather than chasing down some kids. So my answer is a little bit of both. Almost as if Sharptooth wants to take revenge for losing his eye.

The second question is easier. The later Sharpteeth lacked the feeling that they were an actual threat. There is no dreadful feeling if you knew they are close. Heck, Littlefoot even ends up in the mouth of one of them, and the Sharptooth doesn't bother forcing his mouth shut until after 30 seconds, right after Littlefoot jumps out. How can you see them as serious predators? The original Sharptooth causes more dread, especially when Littlefoot thinks he is dead. The feeling that the loss of his mother's life might be for nothing probably adds to the growing despise for the original Sharptooth. I really appreciate that they didn't hold back and made Sharptooth look very menacing, with proper teeth, red eyes and roars that make you want to run away.

I really enjoy the quote you posted, Anagnos. Thanks for that!
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: pokeplayer984 on January 15, 2020, 06:50:41 PM
About a decade ago, I made the stance that The Original Sharptooth has superpowers.  I still believe that to this day.

This is the hill I will die on regardless of what anyone says.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: OwlsCantRead on January 25, 2020, 08:58:00 AM
Sharptooth is scary. Probably the most personal villain of the entire franchise.

Maybe this is a biased viewpoint given how much LBT5 tries to push the "not all sharptooth are bad" mentality, but I feel like they did make him a more compelling villain then the average sharptooth. While antagonists like Ichy & Dil speak and we know their motivations for eating the gang, we usually know zilch for sharptooth in general, except the movie goes out of its way to show his eye being impaled, implying a grudge with Littlefoot that the longneck later returns in earnest.

So yes, despite seeing him as a predator, I think they portray him as a more personal villain, than say, the random sharptooth in LBT8.

As far what made Sharptooth so different... just the tone about him, the way he's drawn, it almost feels like he could legitimately kill off the Gang. When he jump-scares Ducky, you truly felt that. Later villains are either comic-relief or lack that dread and tension.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on January 25, 2020, 04:26:05 PM
*just copying and pasting from a convo I had with Owls on another thread cuz I'm too lazy to write an original response* :lol

In my opinion, I would still argue that Sharptooth was evil...or at least the most evil in comparison to the other antagonists featured in the LBT movies. It feels like such a waste of energy to chase the Gang of Five for who knows how long, and still end up empty handed. I guess we could also assume from his perilous pursuit that he was unsuccessful in capturing any other prey off screen, so Sharptooth has to resort to getting a meal that is easy to get (seemingly) but at a huge drawback of any nutrition. Being in an environment where leaf eaters are pretty scarce due to the lack of vegetation also doesn't help the situation at all. But then again, what about all the herds traveling to the Great Valley? There were a lot of casualties, so theoretically, there should be scattered corpses all around for a Sharptooth feast, correct? Was that ever shown in the movie? We also have to factor in the Diplodocus herd that ran up to the trees and ate up all the tree stars that the Gang should've had. Where the hell did they went after that? I have no clue honestly. The last factor to consider is the chance of an encounter. With all of these food jackpots littered across the land due to the Earthshake and the vast expansiveness of the Mysterious Beyond itself, what were the chances that the Gang would encounter Sharptooth not just once, but twice!? Unfortunately, a decent chance because both the Gang and Sharptooth were traveling towards the direction of where the fabled Great Valley supposedly exists. But even then, if Sharptooth had some sort of consciousness and a bit of empathy, he would leave the kids alone and move towards the food source that is plentiful AND easy pickings at the same time.

So with all things considered, I now think that Sharptooth could've made much better and more rational decisions in the first movie, but he isn't a complete monster. Very flawed, but maybe he thought he had no other choice but to hunt the children down, otherwise face starvation.

Poor Littlefoot, what an unfortunate situation to end up in. I kinda wonder what thoughts were running inside the Sharptooth's mind the moment he was hit in the eye with the thorn - albeit by accident because Littlefoot was trying to escape from his pursuer. A normal and rational mind would shake it off and let it go, but not for this guy. I would even say that he wasn't completely open minded before his eye ends up getting injured, making him more enraged. During a hunt, the natural survival instincts probably held mostly dominant over his normal cognitive abilities. So when the Littlefoot accidentally hurt him in the eye, it was most likely taken as some sort of challenge by Sharptooth, and therefore that's how the endless chase for the blood and meat of the Gang started.

Or we could just say that Sharptooth is a very egotistical guy in general and doesn't like his pride to be hurt like that. The more simple explanation of course, but at the same time, not explaining the full scope of possibilities though. :p
And the really, really simplified explanation is revenge. :o

For a little addendum to my original two posts, I feel like the version of Sharptooth depicted in the book was simply made just to appeal to the masses of people who just want to confirm their bias that he's all and only evil. While I also hold the same bias to a certain degree, I agree with viewpoints from both the book and what the intended message that Don Bluth was trying to push out to the viewers.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Mumbling on January 26, 2020, 11:33:23 AM
Made a drawing for mr. Sharptooth:

(https://i.imgur.com/TCGMivD.jpg) (https://www.deviantart.com/claydoodles/art/What-if-Tickles-were-there-Sharptooth-edition-828279552)
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Sneak on January 26, 2020, 07:25:13 PM
Tickles? Is that you? :O

Spiked bushes, Littlefoot and Cera are perfect!!! Though sharptiooth here looks different and... he looks kinda kind with such expression? :O I mean, only his head form and face expression.
Still awesome work!
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on January 26, 2020, 10:43:44 PM
Not sure whether you absolutely love Tickles....or if you hate him to oblivion which is why you put him in danger with Sharptooth here.
:PCera

That’s a nice clean sketch you got there Mumbling. Other than the few obvious erased marks on the paper, I have no other complaints to voice here. I don’t know if making Sharptooth look cute in the drawing was your intention there, but I like it honestly. This can be interpreted in two ways. Either Tickles is in serious danger and needs to run away immediately, or...Sharptooth is reassuring the little fella that he’s got his back. I like the latter interpretation much better for my liking. :smile

Great job! :chompysmile
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: OwlsCantRead on January 26, 2020, 11:00:15 PM
Not sure whether you absolutely love Tickles....or if you hate him to oblivion which is why you put him in danger with Sharptooth here.
:PCera
If you go to Mumbling's profile it clearly states her favorite character is Tickles. :p
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on January 26, 2020, 11:03:46 PM
Not sure whether you absolutely love Tickles....or if you hate him to oblivion which is why you put him in danger with Sharptooth here.
:PCera
If you go to Mumbling's profile it clearly states her favorite character is Tickles. :p

I know that. That’s exactly the reason why I’m questioning her motives in the first place. :lol
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Mumbling on January 27, 2020, 01:27:27 AM
Spiked bushes, Littlefoot and Cera are perfect!!! Though sharptiooth here looks different and... he looks kindd lind with such expression? :O I mean, only his head form and face expression.

I don’t know if making Sharptooth look cute in the drawing was your intention there, but I like it honestly. This can be interpreted in two ways. Either Tickles is in serious danger and needs to run away immediately, or...Sharptooth is reassuring the little fella that he’s got his back. I like the latter interpretation much better for my liking. :smile

Haha! As I mentioned on my fanart topic - I just can't get anything to look even remotely evil. Everything I draw comes out a bit cuter than intended. The only time I got him looking remotely "bad" was the drawing for my profile pic  :PCera

Thanks guys! Expect Tickles to show up in more adventures :D
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Sneak on January 27, 2020, 06:18:22 AM
ok, I need to stop posting at 5AM at night, because my mind is off at that time.... XD

when I wrote "kindd lind" I meant "kinda kind", meaning that Sharptooth looks as good not-scary guy. XD

sorry
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on January 27, 2020, 07:09:13 PM
ok, I need to stop posting at 5AM at night, because my mind is off at that time.... XD

when I wrote "kindd lind" I meant "kinda kind", meaning that Sharptooth looks as good not-scary guy. XD

sorry

Can I ask? Did you wake up to post at 5 AM, or did you stay up all night? :lol
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Sneak on January 28, 2020, 04:41:25 AM
the latter. :P
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on January 28, 2020, 08:27:55 PM
I don’t know why I didn’t do this the first time I laid my eyes on the drawing, but...

Tickles x Sharptooth <3

There, the ship has been made. :p
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Sneak on January 28, 2020, 08:47:28 PM
bye, Impractical...
You would be good meal. You will be missed.

Heh, actually, I wonder, did Sharptooth ever have a mate, or would he have girlfriend if he is still alive? Or he will be "lone dinosaur" all the life? :D
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on January 28, 2020, 09:07:59 PM
bye, Impractical...
You would be good meal. You will be missed.

Heh, actually, I wonder, did Sharptooth ever have a mate, or would he have girlfriend if he is still alive? Or he will be "lone dinosaur" all the life? :D

His girlfriend would probably be even more terrifying and ravenous then he is!

...I mean, just imagine the constant amount of nagging and whining when he fails to capture five measly baby leaf eaters. Poor Sharptooth will be lectured and abused to death!
:opetrie

So now with the ship officially established, the fanfic idea based on it is up for grabs. :PCera
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StardustSoldier on January 29, 2020, 10:58:59 PM
I don’t know why I didn’t do this the first time I laid my eyes on the drawing, but...

Tickles x Sharptooth <3

There, the ship has been made. :p

You've inspired my next fanfic idea. :P
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Anagnos on January 30, 2020, 11:46:02 AM
^Well, considering that February is that month, perhaps you can carry out your plan after all. :goodluck
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on January 30, 2020, 03:25:12 PM
I don’t know why I didn’t do this the first time I laid my eyes on the drawing, but...

Tickles x Sharptooth <3

There, the ship has been made. :p

You've inspired my next fanfic idea. :P

I can’t wait. :P
I inspired like 4 fanfic ideas for you at this point. :lol
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Goldenwind on January 30, 2020, 07:34:12 PM
I don’t know why I didn’t do this the first time I laid my eyes on the drawing, but...

Tickles x Sharptooth <3

There, the ship has been made. :p

You've inspired my next fanfic idea. :P

I am very interested to see a fanfc being made from this. X) A cute little mouse and huge threatening Sharptooth duo is the best idea of 2020, hands down.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StardustSoldier on January 30, 2020, 08:16:54 PM
Haha, I was actually joking when I said that. :P Even though Impractical has inspired a couple of my other stories. But with 'Tickles x Sharptooth', I have a hard time seeing how that ship could be done well unless it were a deliberately silly story and/or a crack fic. But, you never know. Maybe I will try it out sometime just for fun. :p
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on January 30, 2020, 11:33:06 PM
I am very interested to see a fanfc being made from this. X) A cute little mouse and huge threatening Sharptooth duo is the best idea of 2020, hands down.

Lol, I most definitely agree! :chompysmile

Haha, I was actually joking when I said that. :P Even though Impractical has inspired a couple of my other stories. But with 'Tickles x Sharptooth', I have a hard time seeing how that ship could be done well unless it were a deliberately silly story and/or a crack fic. But, you never know. Maybe I will try it out sometime just for fun. :p

:(

But tbh, I was thinking a silly story/crack fic too. It would be awesome though if you could somehow make this a serious fanfic with a convoluted plot and everything. :p
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StardustSoldier on January 31, 2020, 01:10:01 AM
Ah, I apologize for getting your guys' hopes up. It was a joke story idea I came up with; I didn't realize it was an idea people would genuinely like.

We'll see though. You may have inspired me after all. No promises, but I will give it some honest consideration and see if I can come up with something. Chances are pretty good that it will be a crack fic though. :smile
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Anagnos on January 31, 2020, 04:33:26 AM
^If you're seriously considering going with this plan, be prepared for some tryhard feedback from numerous people. ::)
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Sneak on January 31, 2020, 11:23:22 AM
Ok, "celebration" took 31 days for me. XD
Before Sharptooth eats me, I will write some words.

I won't say obvious things why this sharptotoh can be easily considered as the most scary and dangerous predator in LBT, not affected by "sharpteeth stupidity" unlike others of his kind. He appeared in original movie, the darkest and the most serious one after all. :)
I love antagonists in stories, especially when they're perfect. This guy is at the top of my fav LBT characters list, on position #3. And even if I still considered Sharptooth as just some pure vile force that opposed main characters in their journey, I believe he still would be at the top positions in the list. :)

But gladly, I quite changed my opinion about Sharptooth during the years, and I think it makes him even better. :D

When I was a kid, and watched only original movie, I considered Shrptooth as some kind of soulless monster, pure villain. Just some evil force that can be only opposed. I watched a lot of cartoons where some wild antagonistic predatory animal was pictured. I was sacred of them and didn't try to understand their charscters. D:
And yeah, I remember I had nightmares, starring with our lovely Sharptooth. :D

Later, after I watched sequels, when I was at the age when I started to analize all characters in movies and books, including antagonists, I still considered him as evil creature who wants only blood. I understood that predators have to kill other living beings to survive, especially in universe of LBT1, where theme of survival in semi-apocalyptic world is main one. I remembered introducing Chomper character and his parents, the same type of sharptooth. I found out additional motive for Sharptooth - revenge for his injured eyes, I discovered this detail only after reading discussions. But. Still - I couldn't... no, I refused to see him anything but villain. The best, the scariest, and the most dangerous villain in LBT series.

And then...
One day...
I did read Don Bluth's analysis about Sharptooth. Right here on this forum.
And not so long after, I watched a couple other cartoons that contained some very interesting details related to its antagonists.
And after that - I finally changed my view of this character completely.

All these thoughts about his actions and motive. Simple hunt for survival, uncontrollable rage state he possibly enters during intense fights and getting injury, his revenge on kids for injured eye and attempts to kill him during the climax fight. Thoughts about detecting borders between being villain and normal character with understandable strong motives and desires. Thoughts about how Sharptotoh would live in normal life, living in his own great valley - no dangers, food and water, maybe even family...
All these thoughts made me like him even more. :')
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on January 31, 2020, 09:38:56 PM
Ah, I apologize for getting your guys' hopes up. It was a joke story idea I came up with; I didn't realize it was an idea people would genuinely like.

We'll see though. You may have inspired me after all. No promises, but I will give it some honest consideration and see if I can come up with something. Chances are pretty good that it will be a crack fic though. :smile

I proposed the idea first though. . . right? :p

^If you're seriously considering going with this plan, be prepared for some tryhard feedback from numerous people. ::)

Especially me. ;) ;)Cera
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StardustSoldier on February 01, 2020, 08:37:16 PM
Ah, I apologize for getting your guys' hopes up. It was a joke story idea I came up with; I didn't realize it was an idea people would genuinely like.

We'll see though. You may have inspired me after all. No promises, but I will give it some honest consideration and see if I can come up with something. Chances are pretty good that it will be a crack fic though. :smile

I proposed the idea first though. . . right? :p
You came up with the initial ship, then I was the one who suggested writing a story about it. So I guess we can both take credit for it then? :cheers
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Flathead770 on February 01, 2020, 10:32:15 PM
Darn, missed my chance to finish my prompt drawing for the showcase. Oh well, I guess I'll just quickly share this older drawing I drew for Sneaks birthday a couple years ago of Sharptooth standing over a dead Red Claw.

(https://i.postimg.cc/rwqw7sng/Sharptooth-Redclaw.jpg)

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1) How do you see the original Sharptooth in terms of his motivations?  Is he to be seen as a villain, or as merely another hungry predator in the Mysterious Beyond?

2) What qualities do you think the original Sharptooth has that subsequent sharpteeth in the series lacked?
1) I generally think that his motivation was not villainous and was simply just a predator. It's unsure if he was actively hunting the gang. He could have very well been following the herd of Longnecks that ate all the food in the fake valley

2) I think we all know how incompetent some of the later sharpteeth can be. A lot of the time they will just sit there and let the gang run in between their legs or wait for them to finish screaming :p And obviously having Sharptooth kill Littlefoot's mother sets the level of danger higher then any other following sharptooth could ever match.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Sneak on February 02, 2020, 04:25:09 AM
I forgot there's two questions about Sharptooth.
Well. that's exactly what I didn't want to repeat. :P

1) He was hungry, who knows, maybe at the end he was not so far from being starved to death(?). But he also had revenge motive, that makes him act against nature, and that put him at the borders of being viillain. But hat the heck, in release version of the movie, Littlefoot did the same revenge (I believe it was also hidden motive in script version too), putting lives of his friends in danger, so he's the same bad as Sharpotooth.

2) XD Sharptooth gave you absolute feling of fear and threat. His extreme level of invinsibility, agility and strength only helped him with that.
A very few sharpteeth in sequels caused me to feel the same feelings. Someof them had some level of threat, some of them - agility, some of them - invinsibility. But it was not the same. Far not the same. And endless stupidity or funny moments during their encounters only made it worse.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Anagnos on February 02, 2020, 04:51:27 AM
That is a great drawing, Flathead. I think there are many who wish Red Claw and the original Sharptooth could switch places with each other. He was so much more terrifying and actually a real threat to the Gang. Whereas Red Claw has been simply just an annoying obstacle most of the time, and the title of being the ''biggest and meanest'' of them all, certainly doesn't fit him as well it does with the Sharptooth. As for the drawing itself, it really depicts that mentality in a great way and I quite like the expression on the victor's face. Although, the way Red Claw's tail seem to curl is rather strange looking and his left foot looks out of place. Still, this was a real treat to see from you. Keep those amazing drawings coming, Flathead! :chompysmile
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on February 02, 2020, 11:29:46 AM
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1) He was hungry, who knows, maybe at the end he was not so far from being starved to death(?). But he also had revenge motive, that makes him act against nature, and that put him at the borders of being viillain. But hat the heck, in release version of the movie, Littlefoot did the same revenge (I believe it was also hidden motive in script version too), putting lives of his friends in danger, so he's the same bad as Sharpotooth.

I agree with that mostly, but in my opinion Littlefoot and his friends would’ve been eventually forced to get rid of Sharptooth once and for all since he was going to threaten eventually in the Great Valley. So while Littlefoot may have put his friends in danger initially, it led to a a very long term positive outcome — living peacefully in the Great Valley. So, I’d say that’s his main reason, plus a twinge of revenge too.

I have nothing much to say about your drawing Flathead, but I really liked it. Shading is good as always, and I just love how pathetic Red Claw looks here, truly a sentiment to how he is not superior to the original Sharptooth in any way. The Gang of Seven could run over that guy any day tbh. :P
The tail on Red Claw isn’t too much of a problem for me, but I agree with Anagnos’ that his left foot looks out of place. But overall, good job!
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 24, 2020, 03:31:44 PM
Since I missed Sharptooth Showcase, I made this inspirational poster in his honor:

(https://www22.online-convert.com/dl/web2/download-file/eb596c77-ddb8-4cfa-bde2-2a2614494a33/tenacity.jpg)

Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Sneak on February 24, 2020, 03:41:21 PM
OSOM! :D

Even despite I doesn't know what "tenacity" means. XD
*opens English dictionary*
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 24, 2020, 03:48:03 PM
OSOM! :D

Even despite I doesn't know what "tenacity" means. XD
*opens English dictionary*

Thanks Sneak

Tenacity
Synonym: determination
Sharptooth is tenacious in his prusuit of the Gang. :) 
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on February 24, 2020, 05:15:22 PM
I can't find the original source that you made your inspiration from, dang it. I know I've seen those red, white. and blue colors before in other images, but I can't find the right key words in the search bar.

But anyways, good job again on employing another art style not yet seen here in fanarts on the GOF. :chompysmile
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 24, 2020, 05:26:54 PM
@ImpracticalDino You comtinue to honor me with your compliments. The style is called Obama Poster.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on February 24, 2020, 05:30:47 PM
@ImpracticalDino You comtinue to honor me with your compliments. The style is called Obama Poster.

Oooh, thank you. I never knew the actual term of the art style despite seeing it numerous times on the internet before. Lol, and you're welcome for the compliments. :P
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 24, 2020, 05:34:57 PM
@ImpracticalDino You comtinue to honor me with your compliments. The style is called Obama Poster.

Oooh, thank you. I never knew the actual term of the art style despite seeing it numerous times on the internet before. Lol, and you're welcome for the compliments. :P

I think on Pres. Obama’s poster it said “Hope” or “Change.” I substituted Tenacity for our big bad Sharptooth. :)

I am working on Ali for my avatar, can’t decide if I want the heart more pronounced or not.   
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on February 24, 2020, 05:38:18 PM
@ImpracticalDino You comtinue to honor me with your compliments. The style is called Obama Poster.

Oooh, thank you. I never knew the actual term of the art style despite seeing it numerous times on the internet before. Lol, and you're welcome for the compliments. :P

I think on Pres. Obama’s poster it said “Hope” or “Change.” I substituted Tenacity for our big bad Sharptooth. :)

I am working on Ali for my avatar, can’t decide if I want the heart more pronounced or not.   

Lol, I like it. :PAli  :D

Is there any general reason why you change your avatar so often, like very often? Although, I must say all the profile pictures I've seen from you so far are pretty good and even humorous at times.
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 24, 2020, 05:44:21 PM
@ImpracticalDino You comtinue to honor me with your compliments. The style is called Obama Poster.

Oooh, thank you. I never knew the actual term of the art style despite seeing it numerous times on the internet before. Lol, and you're welcome for the compliments. :P

I think on Pres. Obama’s poster it said “Hope” or “Change.” I substituted Tenacity for our big bad Sharptooth. :)

I am working on Ali for my avatar, can’t decide if I want the heart more pronounced or not.   

Lol, I like it. :PAli  :D

Is there any general reason why you change your avatar so often, like very often? Although, I must say all the profile pictures I've seen from you so far are pretty good and even humorous at times.

Haha I was noticed for changing my avatar a lot on other forums too. I enjoy art and whatever I am interested in becomes my avvie. I am sure it can be hard to track my responses lol with different avvie. I will mostly be alternating between Knightsaurus, Ali, Sharptooth, and whatsver else I find lol :D
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on February 24, 2020, 05:49:40 PM
I'm curious, are there any other shows you're interested in besides LBT and Power Rangers? (last question to prevent further digression from the main topic)
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 24, 2020, 05:54:33 PM
I'm curious, are there any other shows you're interested in besides LBT and Power Rangers? (last question to prevent further digression from the main topic)

I was watching Star Wars: The Mandalorian (Disney+). My favorites shows are Firefly, Star Trek: Voyager, Geneshaft (Anime), Trigun (Anime), Little House On the Praire, and Gilmore Girls.

—————

Sharptooth Supremecy!
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 24, 2020, 06:15:51 PM
@Sneak  Sharptooth has his own momey!

Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on February 24, 2020, 06:21:28 PM
@Gentle Sharptooth: Seriously though, what other surprises do you have in store for us in your "treasure chest"? :P
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on February 24, 2020, 06:30:36 PM
@Gentle Sharptooth: Seriously though, what other surprises do you have in store for us in your "treasure chest"? :P

Just wait and I shall unleash a Sharptooth art piece worthy of the Mysterious Beyond. :D
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StardustSoldier on March 03, 2020, 08:43:45 PM
I have to concur with ID here. You have really nice artwork, Gentle Sharptooth. Your Obama-style poster especially stands out to me.
:^^spike

But I like the money too, of course. Hmm, are there other characters on the bills for different amounts of money, perhaps?
:chompysmile
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 07, 2020, 10:40:00 PM
I have to concur with ID here. You have really nice artwork, Gentle Sharptooth. Your Obama-style poster especially stands out to me.
:^^spike

But I like the money too, of course. Hmm, are there other characters on the bills for different amounts of money, perhaps?
:chompysmile

Thanks! Yes the money goes like this:

$100 -Grandpa Longneck
$50 -Mr. Threehorn (Topsy)
$20 -Mr. Thicknose
$5 -Petrie
$1 -Littlefoot

Jk :D XD
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Anagnos on March 08, 2020, 04:08:43 AM
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$100 -Grandpa Longneck

That is what I would call an exorbitant price. :o
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 08, 2020, 06:54:13 AM
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$100 -Grandpa Longneck

That is what I would call an exorbitant price. :o

Lol I loved the idea of 50 USD which is Pres. Grant being Mr. Threehorn/ Topsy. :D
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StardustSoldier on March 08, 2020, 03:36:41 PM
$100 -Grandpa Longneck
$50 -Mr. Threehorn (Topsy)
$20 -Mr. Thicknose
$5 -Petrie
$1 -Littlefoot

Jk :D XD

Aww, but I like those ideas. :p
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 08, 2020, 03:42:20 PM
$100 -Grandpa Longneck
$50 -Mr. Threehorn (Topsy)
$20 -Mr. Thicknose
$5 -Petrie
$1 -Littlefoot

Jk :D XD

Aww, but I like those ideas. :p

In TLBT what do you think the money would be made of? :)
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StardustSoldier on March 08, 2020, 03:51:41 PM
Edible money then?
:yum
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 08, 2020, 04:28:02 PM
Edible money then?
:yum

That would be more environmentally responsible.. although that would mean dino poop is full of money.. 💩💵💩
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on March 08, 2020, 04:42:43 PM
Dung beetles will be the richest creatures in the world! :bestsharptooth
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 08, 2020, 04:46:21 PM
Dung beetles will be the richest creatures in the world! :bestsharptooth

Hahaha! So true! Who Wants to Be Dung-beetle Millionaire? :D :p
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on March 08, 2020, 04:58:29 PM
I was thinking maybe the money could be made out of treestars possibly, which I now also realize is an edible food source. :p
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 08, 2020, 05:12:10 PM
I was thinking maybe the money could be made out of treestars possibly, which I now also realize is an edible food source. :p

Treestars.. yummy..  :TreeStar 💩
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Sneak on March 09, 2020, 04:51:32 AM
It went too far offtop.
Don't make Sharptooth mad!
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: StardustSoldier on March 09, 2020, 05:16:49 AM
lol, who is Sharptotoh?
:chompysmile
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 09, 2020, 07:36:10 AM
It went too far offtop.
Don't make Sharptooth mad!

(https://i.imgur.com/geKgCB7.gif)
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on March 09, 2020, 07:47:48 AM
lol, who is Sharptotoh?
:chompysmile

A mistake in spelling I've seen him done so many times, to the point when I just assumed that's his preferred way of spelling Sharptooth. :lol
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 09, 2020, 08:46:43 AM
Stain Glass Sharptooth!  :opetrie
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Anagnos on March 09, 2020, 10:12:21 AM
lol, who is Sharptotoh?
:chompysmile

A mistake in spelling I've seen him done so many times, to the point when I just assumed that's his preferred way of spelling Sharptooth. :lol

Sharptotoh is only the most formidable and prominent figure in the ever so growing politics of the Mysterious Beyond. He might one day make it all the way to the top as President of the Beyond. :p
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 09, 2020, 12:31:58 PM
lol, who is Sharptotoh?
:chompysmile

A mistake in spelling I've seen him done so many times, to the point when I just assumed that's his preferred way of spelling Sharptooth. :lol

Sharptotoh is only the most formidable and prominent figure in the ever so growing politics of the Mysterious Beyond. He might one day make it all the way to the top as President of the Beyond. :p

I hope Sharptooth can win Land of The Mists Caucus. :p
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: ImpracticalDino on March 09, 2020, 01:29:03 PM
Sharptotoh definitely has my vote. :)littlefoot

Nice stain glass art Gentle Sharptooth. :)
Title: Re: Sharptooth Showcase - January 2020
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 09, 2020, 01:45:42 PM
Sharptotoh definitely has my vote. :)littlefoot

Nice stain glass art Gentle Sharptooth. :)

He has competition in Bronto Sanders.

Thanks. I try. :)