The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: Ducky123 on February 16, 2017, 08:12:37 PM
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Shorty wasn't part of the cast of LBT 14 but what if he was? What role would he play? Here are a few ideas of mine:
1. Shorty would have replaced the role Wild Arms was playing, informing the Great Valley of the incident (however I think he'd rather urge them on to do something to help Bron out of there and join Littlefoot later on)
2. Shorty would try to rescue Bron on his own (but fails) and, on his way to the Great Valley to get help, he stumbles upon the Gang or at least part of them
3. something completely else or something inbetween? What are your thoughts?
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We could have similar threads for Ali, and few other guest characters.
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We could have similar threads for Ali, and few other guest characters.
Well, Shorty should have definitely been in the film unlike the other guest characters. Your first idea would have really improved the film as it would have made sense for Shorty to be the one to warn the other's about Bron's situation. There would have already been serious potential if Shorty was in the risk of being orphaned again and in his drive to find his brother, if only to comfort him for the time being. It would have been an easy and effective way to start the film. Moreover, this would have been a way to avoid Wild Arms' existence. (I hate comical relief characters and he's no exception.)
The second option could work too but I'd say the first one's more probable and powerful. Of course, there could be some situations where this possibility could be better than the first but I'd still stick with the first one.
Developing the idea further, Shorty could work as an unsure guide for the Gang, knowing the way but only vaguely. There could even have been a fight between the two brothers, replacing Littlefoot and Cera's fight. There could have been much potential in sibling rivalry but even in a scenario closer to the original storyline, I cannot see how Shorty's (or Chomper and Ruby's, for that matter) could have made the film worse.
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my personal thoughts:
(if Shorty somehow wasn't adopted by pair of dinosaurs, of course...)
I tried to read Shorty's mind, try to put mysself on his place.
His personality won't let him leave Bron like that. Even if Bron heavily ordered him to leave with herd to safe place - after some time, when Bron is nowhere to be found and his fate is unknown...
There is still huge way to the valley, so I think, after earthshake and eruption is over and herd is going to go to the Valley, Shorty wouldn't go with them and go to rescue his adopted dad by himself, without going to the Valley. He won't waste time, he wouldn't go too far from place where Bron got missing, as Littlefoot didn't want to waste a time, disagreeing with Cera's way and wanting Gang to go instead sleep.
And since nobody from Bron's herd tried to look for Bron, I don't think somebody would leave the herd and look for Shorty.
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my personal thoughts:
(if Shorty somehow wasn't adopted by pair of dinosaurs, of course...)
I tried to read Shorty's mind, try to put mysself on his place.
His personality won't let him leave Bron like that. Even if Bron heavily ordered him to leave with herd to safe place - after some time, when Bron is nowhere to be found and his fate is unknown...
There is still huge way to the valley, so I think, after earthshake and eruption is over and herd is going to go to the Valley, Shorty wouldn't go with them and go to rescue his adopted dad by himself, without going to the Valley. He won't waste time, he wouldn't go too far from place where Bron got missing, as Littlefoot didn't want to waste a time, disagreeing with Cera's way and wanting Gang to go instead sleep.
And since nobody from Bron's herd tried to look for Bron, I don't think somebody would leave the herd and look for Shorty.
so, if Shorty never makes it to the valley, would it just be the rest of the herd telling the valley what happened? I guess even if the herd itself didn't bring it up, someone in the valley (littlefoot, for sure) would bring up bron not being there, and question the herd about it.
Now that leaves the problem of the gang needing some kind of guide to get there, if Shorty never left that nearby area. They could try questioning the herd for the route they took to get here, but the gang would still probably want someone to guide them, and i don't think anyone in the herd would want to (if we want to take wild arms out of this, that is. :p )
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I think Littlefoot would go to journey without any guide.
Why? Because he knew direction and landmarks: Burning Mountain and Longneck Rock... oops I meant Burning mountain, feathered sharpteeth canyon and river. *rolls eyes*
what happened to the herd should be told by Herd DEPUTY. Not by idiotic Wild Arms (though he can run first ahead from herd so this is why he could tell it first)
Bron isn't idiot. He MUST have one dinosaur who is trusted and who would lead the herd if something happens.
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2. Shorty would try to rescue Bron on his own (but fails) and, on his way to the Great Valley to get help, he stumbles upon the Gang or at least part of them
Oooh, I love this idea. Shorty having to learn how to be a team player and finally putting his envy of Littlefoot behind would be a great character arc. Him arguing with his foster brother rather than Cera is also a lot more logical. All in all Shorty's suspicious absence from the 14th movie is... Weird, to say the least. I mean, did he leave Bron's herd in-between the TV series and the newest sequel? That's the only reason I can think of why he didn't even say "hi" to the gang. Maybe he did leave and the movie just ended before Littlefoot had a chance to ask his father about the absence of a certain green longneck. :huh:
Also, Shorty's appearence in the movie could've been used to justify the way Chomper and Ruby were pushed aside. Like, if the bratty little dino said he wouldn't trust the "friendly sharptooth" to stay friendly outside the Valley. :)
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Interesting ideas, guys :)
In my opinion, Shorty just HAD to be in that movie... I'm still thinking it's most likely that Shorty would have replaced Wild Arm's role and then follow Littlefoot.
I like Snik's idea too, however I doubt it's possible to squeeze this into the usual timeframe of LBT movies :p
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I doubt it's possible to squeeze this into the usual timeframe of LBT movies :p
extend that GODDAMN TIME LIMITS already!!!
:anger
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I to like Duckys idea also it could actually work if done right.
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In my opinion, Shorty just HAD to be in that movie...
Yeah, Shorty was supposed to be that little brother Littlefoot never knew he had and he was an integral part of the whole "son and father reunited" story arc. It just doesn't make sense to bring Bron back alone. <_<
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Deep down shorty wasn't a bad outcast character. I felt bad that shorty was treated poorly and no one cared for him. So good for LittleFoot for sticking up for him and adopting his as his brother.
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Wondering if in the next movie they're going to have to rescue Shorty from the same volcano. Like, LBT15 picks up right where the last sequel ended and the gang goes "Oh yeah, where's Shorty?" and Bron reacts with an "oh, crap" face. :lol:
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Wondering if in the next movie they're going to have to rescue Shorty from the same volcano. Like, LBT15 picks up right where the last sequel ended and the gang goes "Oh yeah, where's Shorty?" and Bron reacts with an "oh, crap" face. :lol:
looooool
:lol
and at the end of this movie, Chomper and Ruby would suddenly remember that they were sent o Great Valley with very important mission, that their parents miss them and want they go back as soon as they can, that Mysterious Beyond's residents count on them, and that they have spent TWO YEARS in the valley, playing and doing nothing. So, in LBT 16, they would deal with Red Claw, and Shorty would be part of the company.
And in LBT 17, original Sharptooth would come and fight with Bron, and...
:unsure:
</stormy fantasy>
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The plot of LBT 15: Bron begins to think that he's a terrible father since it's a second time he left his son behind, so he retires from being a herd leader, leaving Littlefoot in charge. In the meanwhile Shorty is filled with resentment, so he runs away and joins Red Claw's gang as the first "unfriendly falt-tooth" (kinda like a reverse Lone Dinosaur). They then have an epic duel with Chomper at a mountain peak close to the Great Valley, where Shorty initially gains the upper hand and corners the little T-Rex on a cliff and tell him that "he needs a teacher" and that he, Shorty - now known as Kylo - can teach him how to be mean again. But then Chomper taps into his inner Dark Side and quickly overpowers his best friend's adoptive brother... Or something lika that. :lol:
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:lol :lol :lol
I think there's special thread for random silly plots for sequel somewhere.
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But these plots are very good and fun to read tho,
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2. Shorty would try to rescue Bron on his own (but fails) and, on his way to the Great Valley to get help, he stumbles upon the Gang or at least part of them
Oooh, I love this idea. Shorty having to learn how to be a team player and finally putting his envy of Littlefoot behind would be a great character arc. Him arguing with his foster brother rather than Cera is also a lot more logical. All in all Shorty's suspicious absence from the 14th movie is... Weird, to say the least. I mean, did he leave Bron's herd in-between the TV series and the newest sequel? That's the only reason I can think of why he didn't even say "hi" to the gang. Maybe he did leave and the movie just ended before Littlefoot had a chance to ask his father about the absence of a certain green longneck. :huh:
Also, Shorty's appearence in the movie could've been used to justify the way Chomper and Ruby were pushed aside. Like, if the bratty little dino said he wouldn't trust the "friendly sharptooth" to stay friendly outside the Valley. :)
Now THAT sounds like a very interesting idea! That definitely would've improved the film a lot.
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Yeah, if Shorty was in the movie, it wouldn't have sucked nearly as much :lol
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Yeah, We, community, definitely need to compose good LBT14 script. If you know what I mean...
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Yeah, We, community, definitely need to compose good LBT14 script. If you know what I mean...
Let's keep it PG. :p
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Yeah, We, community, definitely need to compose good LBT14 script. If you know what I mean...
Let's keep it PG. :p
Well, since one day they cut 10 minutes of footage from the final film to attain a G rating instead of a PG rating...
I don't mind about PG. :p