Oh yeah, if you don't have the soundtrack but would like to hear the missing "fight" music, it plays in LBT 6 when Grandpa Longneck rescues Littlefoot from the Sharptooth.

Kind of fitting, that the music is finally used for a sharptooth fight...

At the moment, I can't be bothered analysing the rest, but I do have a rather sketchy list of all the different tunes as I heard them. (I mean REALLY Sketchy. I drew it all on one piece of paper that rapidly filled up with comments, and a timeline that gets fairly cramped at the edge. I'll post what I can read off it. Ugh. That's what I get for writing too fast.)

It seems though a horn was added for a lot of Spike's scenes. I wonder if the music was changed with the cutting of some scenes, or if they just didn't put all the tracks on the soundtrack. I know James Horner didn't put all the tracks from "Titanic" on the album, some were released on "Back To Titanic". Maybe he did the same thing here.

(Starting Where Ducky Fell)

Completely Unfamiliar Track
Reworked Track 7 (Early Spike Birth)
Another Unfamiliar Track (Spike Eating)

(Starting After The Transition)
Track based off IWHOT? Repeats three times, last time climactic.
Unfamiliar Music
(Silence?)
Early Track 5 Slowed Down (Climbing the Tree)
Added Horn
Added Horn
Variant
Short Crash (Repeat Of Petrie Falling W/ Track Added)
Cera's Boast (Repeat Of Track 2, Parents Taking Their Kids Away)
Repeat of something, possibly 5:25 on... (Repeats, Higher pitched)
Track 7 or 6? Variant of IWHOT
(Whispering Winds?) Ducky's Theme Added
IWHOT Edit, sped up. (Track 6 or 7) Short Edit on End.
Reprise of 2, Sharptooth at Bubbles? Then repeat of Cera's fleeing music.
Unfamiliar track
Opening to Track 2 ("Though they were tired..."
Unfamiliar track, edit of IWHOT?
Familiar?
Edited Ducky
Track taken from 6/7?
Edited Mid Ducky/Petrie/Walk. (Late Fight)
Edited IWHOT
Opening of 2?

Anyone here with a musical ear and the soundtrack is welcome to try and decode that mess. You will definitely need to watch those scenes again though.

Quite possibly so, but the main question for me is not so much about leaving than it is about leaving behind. With any sense of danger, would it not be a lot more sensible to remain in a group? If Bron was to go scouting ahead for the impending move it doesn't seem to make much sense to wander so far of as to not find his way back to the others for whatever time it took for Littlefoot to develop from an egg into a talking and reasonable longneck.

For them to make such an odd decision, I think they must have had several options as to where to go, and little time. Bron took one route, and if time ran out, they would take the other, assuming that he had found nothing safe and/or was dead. He assumed they took the other route, then stopped looking after learning of her death.

I wonder if the time limit they had was the egg laying. They may have wanted to leave for a long time. If the eggs were laid in a dangerous place, (as they were in the first film) it might have been hard to save the babies (again, in the first film). If they had a baby to migrate with, it would have been even harder. Look how close Littlefoot came to getting eaten in 10 by that gator. The problem with the 10th film is that it fails to convey the sense of urgency that the first film does.

Maybe the beauty of the valley in the flashback is Bron's memory. It really would have made more sense if the land was dangerous. Either way, because of the first movie, we must assume that they had to leave that land for some reason.

LBT is particularly shaky about many details here. While all longnecks are supposed to have that dream we know longnecks a plenty who are not around (Ali's herd, Doc, the longneck mother of LBT 9, every single longneck resident of the Great Valley except for Littlefoot and his grandparents etc.). But one thing that is rather obvious is that Bron once again left part of his herd behind. If that part was consisting of the weak and old who might not make the travel in sufficient time this would make Kron... pardon, Bron kind of a social Darwinist and that on the basis of a dream it really doesn't sound like he is living up to the responsibility of a herd leader. Now I would not have a problem with that if we could assume that in this position he is not so overly important and that the herd is running in a rather democratic fashion with everyone being able to make up the own mind on what to do and whom to follow, but with the repeated statements of Bron about how very dependent the herd is on him such an interpretation is questionable at best.

Although, we have seen how quickly members of the GV panic and make the wrong choice. He may not be needed, but they may have gotten used to having him there for them. Wouldn't it also make sense not to take the entire herd on what could be a wild goose chase?

In reality, the answer to all the problems? Blame the scriptwriter for not thinking it through! However, that's where we come in, to muse and find out the missing information.

I think it's interesting, how much Cera's dad has changed since the first film.

He is still the same in the earlier films, voicing racism to Cera in the second film, and remaining superior in the third film. Grandpa Longneck saving his life may have heralded the change.

Interestingly, he is not present in the fourth film. Although he might not have been interested in meeting a longneck herd, he might have found it awkward to visit the potential deathbed of one who had been his rival for a while.

In the fifth, we see his old anger again, although this is out of fear for his families' survival. In the sixth, apart from complaining about Doc and the twins, he actually appears to be completely friendly, from casually talking with Grandpa Longneck, to even apologising for upsetting Littlefoot. The Topps of the older films would not have done that happily. He has changed for the better.

The rest of the films seem to show that despite keeping a short temper, he has a vague friendship with Littlefoot's family (Such as shown with the snowfight, or in nine, where he sends Littlefoot away. He was grumpy, but he acknowledged his existence, something the Topps of the early films would not have), and truly cares for the valley's denizens.

Something I wonder is, If something awful befell Littlefoot's Grandparents, would Topps actually take responsibility for Littlefoot? I can see him sympathising (And possibly being swayed by Tria and Cera). If he didn't, Ducky's mother would certainly look after him, and maybe even Petrie's mother (Although he wouldn't exactly be able to live with them in their high nest). But it's still an interesting thought. Despite his grumpiness, how much does he care?

Hyp: I bet you this rock that you can last the whole movie without shouting at something.

Cera: Ha! You're on!

Littlefoot: We've lost already...

Alternatively:

Hyp: I bet you this rock that you'll be making these movies until the year 2000!

Cera: Like that's gonna happen!

Littlefoot: <Sigh>

Heheheh.

Oh yeah, and I forgot to add:

The time I think the GV is in is not near the extinction point. Note, the end of the first film has the narrator state that "Generations upon Generations" passed down the stories of their ancestors. Since some species would have been extinct at different times, we can assume that the movies take place during a fictional time, such as Mid-Late Cretaceous.

Another thing is that whatever the time is, the land is going through some changes, as evidenced in movies 1, 4, 8, and 9. This could explain the change in some lands.

Something else of note is that Grandpa Longneck claims to have lived in the valley as a hatchling in 6. We see that he knows what locusts are, so maybe they decimated the valley years ago, and he left to the east. There is nothing that says that the Great Valley was always known by that name.

Also, in his story, there is a focus on Longnecks. This could reflect the segregation that would have been rampant in his youth, or it could mean that the valley was once home to Longnecks. The latter seems unlikely, as there is a Threehorn and a Bigmouth visible, plus Thicknose, the oldest inhabitant, remembered multiple herds in the valley. This raises the question of whether or not Grandpa Longneck and him knew eachother. Of course, they could have lived at opposite ends of the valley (Come to think of it, were there any Longnecks in his flashback?)

I have watched each of the films and made tiny notes at crucial points in an attempt to draw a map of the Great Valley and the surrounding areas. I haven't yet uploaded a map, but I will draw a text description.

Lands Around GV:
N: Mountains
NE: Water from 3 (within Mts), Barren lands/Berry Valley.
E: Barren Lands from 1.
SE: Smoking Mountains.
S: Smoking Mounts and desert.
SW: Desert, then Land Of Mists)
W: Desert, and Movie 5 lands
NW: Mountain routes, and Movie 9 lands.
(That was written presuming the mountain chain runs N-S. Looking at maps, and judging by scenes in 1 and 4, the chain may really run NNW-SSE.)

Now follows my reasoning. (WARNING: LENGTHY NOTES FOLLOW) Please note, since some movies show areas that don’t necessarily fit together, I have changed a few things to fit them better. For example, Sun placement has not always been noted.

First of all, what we know from the first film is that the eastern lands are barren, the north and south are divided by a large chasm, and a large mountain chain runs north-south in the west. This is where the great valley is.

Now, lets look at the main dinosaurs, and where they were found. Personally, I think the GV was located in Western America, as an older feature of the Rocky Mountains. Look at this map:US Cretaceous Map
Taking some liberties with the surrounding areas, that could easily be the world of LBT.

Triceratops was only located in Western America. Apatosaurs, Stegosaurs and Pteranodons were also found here. Saurolophus was too, but the Asian species which had a longer crest fits Ducky's look better. However, there was a land bridge connecting Asia and America in the north, so her family could have migrated.

Now, lets look at the knowledge that we got in each film.

In the first film, we know that there are two mountain lines to the east. One is the barrier that stops Sharptooth following them. Behind this is the Longneck statue. Then, there is the other mountain line that Littlefoot pushes Cera down to fight in. Over the hill down there is the Great Valley. To the left (South) are "Mountains That Burn"; these are presumably the same as the Smoking Mountains. The tiny lake that they defeat sharptooth at is located near the GV (You can see the rock on the plateau over the lake when Littlefoot sees his mother in the clouds. The film originally had this scene earlier.) As for the Great Valley, one thing that must remain consistent, is that a waterfall flows into the valley, and a river runs from it, East To West.

The second film doesn't show much outside the valley, apart from the large area of tar and skeletons which appears to be the same place as the smoking mountains in the first film. As for the route that is taken to get there, it looks as if they followed Ozzy and Strut over the mountains surrounding the GV, travelling south towards the Smoking Mountains, before returning through the area created by the rockfall; a passage to the east.

The third film gives the waterfall a name; The Thundering Falls. When the trapped water is found, it takes up a large area (this may be flooded land). It must be near the falls, and the land to the southeast has been mapped, that means that the water must be to the northeast, probably further north than east, to provide room for the adults to reach the valley (In the first movie)

Four and Five are a bit confusing. Four shows the valley emerging from the mountain chain into a desert peppered with rocks. Across from these (Apparently West) are high rocks that border the Land Of Mists.

Five also shows a vast area of desert, although in some areas it appears to be desolate land. This could be east, but I doubt that the characters would ever return there, and also in Nine, Cera remarks that they went “Right” at the Smoking Mts. The explanation? The land is desolate, recently wrecked by the locusts.

Six shows the area where Saurus Rock is located. This is an interesting area. First of all, in Grandpa Longneck’s story, he claims that Saurus Rock, and the area where the attack took place, were a part of the Great Valley. If you ask me, it once was an area of the valley, but was abandoned for lack of safety, or a later event that made it unsafe, such as an earthquake. For a mountain line that big, plus with volcanos, the GV must be on a faultline (This could be the San Andreas Fault, following my Western America theory).

Seven is interesting as it shows that the GV is not completely bordered by mountains. The GOF cross a gorge over a river that divides the Valley and the Smoking Mountains, and Threehorn Peak. The river is seen to go over into fertile lands. Presumably, this area, and Threehorn Peak, are to the south, past the dangerous areas of the first film.

The flashback in their film is also interesting. Presumably, the great divide stretched all the way to the mountains, otherwise the families could have reunited easily. Pterano leads his group to a small canyon in the south (left) while the others continue their trek (right).

Eight shows that there is a mountain route to the valley. Since all other directions have already been shown, this must be a northern route. There is also a tall mountain that is apparently used as a landmark. This would make up part of the western wall of the GV.

Nine shows more waterfalls, but this is a result of the rains. Interestingly, an Earthquake destroys one small part of the Valley, creating a gorge. As for the route, Presumably, the GOF are travelling west with Mo.

Ten is interesting, as their route appears to go through the Land Of Mists. Both 4 and 10 go through a high rocky area, and then a misty swamp. The longneck herd in movie 10 go further. This places the LOM to the SW. Further south is the longneck canyon.

11 shows nothing new, just the same dead lands of the smoking mountains. Presumably, their cave is located to the SE.

12 is just a barren land, that could be many areas. Since they go past an active volcanic area, it is probably south, or possibly the area created by the earthquake in 9.

13 is interesting. The land we see when they first enter the mysterious beyond doesn’t match any of the sequels yet, so it must be the lands to the north of the divide. Berry Valley is located far to the north, though slightly to the east of the GV.

Okay, that’s enough for now. I have more, but it can be difficult adapting my notes to computer form. I’ll post more later.