The Gang of Five

The Land Before Time => 1988 Theatrical Release => Topic started by: Dalekdino on February 25, 2014, 11:09:52 AM

Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dalekdino on February 25, 2014, 11:09:52 AM
After seeing a changes you would have made to the squeals topic, I thought I'd do a topic asking what sort of small or drastic changes you would like to have made to the first film, if you had been the big cheese of making the film.


Here's the small changes I would have made.
I would have maybe slightly toned down Cera attitude a wee bit (been a fan of Cera would like to make her a bit more likeable), had a scene were Cera apologises to Littlefoot for the erm... Mum insult... And say she didn't really mean it.
Also show that Cera's mum and sisters are alive and well.
Would have kept to the whole Littlefoot finding the great valley before he goes back and saves the others, instead of moving it to after they got rid of Sharptooth.
I'd have had Littlefoot refer to his mum as "mom" or "mama", I always found it way too formal for him to refer to her as mother, when Ducky and Petrie refer to their mum's as mama, and Cera refer's her dad as daddy.
I would also have altered some of the scenes I find a bit awkward.. But I'd rather not say which scenes though.


That's all I can think of now, I come up with more soon.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Ducky123 on February 25, 2014, 02:37:06 PM
The only thing that bugs me off sometimes is the editing that has been made :x I basically agree that the points you mentioned could have been added but I wouldn't consider them necessary :)
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dalekdino on February 26, 2014, 11:09:17 AM
Another change I would have made is to the title of the film in the opening.
What bugs me about the title in the opening is that it's just plan bold white text, and look really boring.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/835/r62g.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/n7r62gj)

I would have had the title in the opening look more like it dose on the poster and VHS and DVD cover.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/833/d5yq.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/n5d5yqj)

I would also have made a little change to the scene were Littlefoot and Ducky first meet Petrie. Instead of having Littlefoot yelling like a maniac ( and gives us a lovely view down his gob) I would just have him do a quick "Argh!" and back away, before sending Petrie flying through the air and crash into the ground.
Seriously that bit freaked me out as a kid....

Speaking of Petrie, I would have made a scene showing his hatching at the start of the film.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: OllyDirectioner on February 27, 2014, 01:44:37 AM
I would definitely have made the film longer. There's apparently a lost scene where Littlefoot sneaks off and finds the Great Valley, and he urges the rest on, and accidentally leads them to the cliff above the wasteland where Cera says "This is your Great Valley?" I really wish they would have made it longer. It's way too short a movie. Also, Don Bluth himself wasn't even happy with the final cut of the film.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dalekdino on February 27, 2014, 07:44:18 AM
Quote from: OllyDirectioner,Feb 27 2014 on  05:44 AM
I would definitely have made the film longer. There's apparently a lost scene where Littlefoot sneaks off and finds the Great Valley, and he urges the rest on, and accidentally leads them to the cliff above the wasteland where Cera says "This is your Great Valley?" I really wish they would have made it longer. It's way too short a movie. Also, Don Bluth himself wasn't even happy with the final cut of the film.
Oh yes that's something I would have done too, make the film longer. I mean they cut soo much out that if you don't count the credits the film is only about an hour long.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Ducky123 on February 27, 2014, 02:31:36 PM
Ah.. the outcut scenes... our holy grail :p

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I would definitely have made the film longer. There's apparently a lost scene where Littlefoot sneaks off and finds the Great Valley, and he urges the rest on, and accidentally leads them to the cliff above the wasteland where Cera says "This is your Great Valley?" I really wish they would have made it longer. It's way too short a movie. Also, Don Bluth himself wasn't even happy with the final cut of the film.
Yes, you are right :) However, Littlefoot sneaked off after he lead them to that wasteland. After the fight, there is the scene of the Smoking Mountains until Ducky and Spike get separated from Cera and Petrie. Then, as you can assume from the soundtrack, there is this very calm choral music that is also used in the edited version we all are familiar with... It's used when Littlefoot sees the clouds looking like a Longneck... Littlefoot might be shown crying in the cut footage. Then he finds the Great Valley, rescues the Gang, gets rid of The Sharptooth and lead them to the Valley :)
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: CeraTheRed on February 27, 2014, 04:08:13 PM
Quote from: Dalekdino,Feb 26 2014 on  10:09 AM
Speaking of Petrie, I would have made a scene showing his hatching at the start of the film.
I've ALWAYS wanted to see little Petrie hatching. As an adult, I realize how disappointed I was that Petrie is the only one who isn't shown hatching.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Ducky123 on February 27, 2014, 05:03:11 PM
I just noticed that Littlefoot's Grandparents' personalities haven't really been introduced in the first movie... that had to wait until LBT 2 was released. So yeah, would've liked them having a few lines or so or interacting with Littlefoot more.

And I agree, Petrie's birth sure would've been a cute scene :wub
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: CeraTheRed on February 27, 2014, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: Ducky123,Feb 27 2014 on  04:03 PM
I just noticed that Littlefoot's Grandparents' personalities haven't really been introduced in the first movie... that had to wait until LBT 2 was released. So yeah, would've liked them having a few lines or so or interacting with Littlefoot more.

And I agree, Petrie's birth sure would've been a cute scene :wub
I agree. I mean, I love Littlefoot's mom and everything (part of the reason her death is so sad), but in the sequels I got to love Grandpa Longneck, particularly. It would've been nice for them to have more dialogue. Maybe focus on Littlefoot's family as a whole, not just him and his mother.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dalekdino on February 28, 2014, 08:16:33 AM
Quote from: Ducky123,Feb 27 2014 on  09:03 PM
I just noticed that Littlefoot's Grandparents' personalities haven't really been introduced in the first movie... that had to wait until LBT 2 was released. So yeah, would've liked them having a few lines or so or interacting with Littlefoot more.

And I agree, Petrie's birth sure would've been a cute scene :wub
Argh yes I just remembered that's something I would have done too. Given Littlefoot's grandma and grandpa more dialog other then just chuckling.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dalekdino on April 30, 2014, 09:23:45 AM
I personally wouldn't have bothered with the little flyers fighting over a cheery scene... I find it kinda pointless. I know you can say it was there to lighten things up after the death of Littlefoot's mum, but even so things go straight down beat again after it, what with Littlefoot crying into a footprint, thinking he sees his mum and it's just his shadow and meeting Cera and asking her if she wants to go with him and she refuses. I mean for me things don't properly lighten up again till Littlefoot meets Ducky.

I would also in the scene with Littlefoot and Rooter, slightly changed Littlefoot's line from "My tummy hurts" To " My stomach hurts". I found that was too childish for Littlefoot, and I always had to try not to smirk when he said it..
I may also have given Rooter another appearance near the end of the film perhaps when they all get to the great valley.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: CeraTheRed on April 30, 2014, 10:33:53 AM
Quote from: Dalekdino,Apr 30 2014 on  08:23 AM
I personally wouldn't have bothered with the little flyers fighting over a cheery scene... I find it kinda pointless. I know you can say it was there to lighten things up after the death of Littlefoot's mum, but even so things go straight down beat again after it, what with Littlefoot crying into a footprint, thinking he sees his mum and it's just his shadow and meeting Cera and asking her if she wants to go with him and she refuses. I mean for me things don't properly lighten up again till Littlefoot meets Ducky.

I would also in the scene with Littlefoot and Rooter, slightly changed Littlefoot's line from "My tummy hurts" To " My stomach hurts". I found that was too childish for Littlefoot, and I always had to try not to smirk when he said it..
I may also have given Rooter another appearance near the end of the film perhaps when they all get to the great valley.
I can agree with that. I mean, the flyer cherry scene was cute, but what did it really do? Also, I admit, I liked Rooter. I think he would've been a nice addition to the Great Valley. I agree with THAT, too. Littlefoot DOES seem too mature to say that.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: DarkHououmon on April 30, 2014, 01:01:01 PM
The cherry scene actually does serve a purpose. At least at the end it does. At the very end, the flyer is trying to feed Littlefoot the cherry. But Littlefoot refuses to take it.

The purpose of this scene is twofold. First, it shows that not all dinosaurs have prejudice. This flyer willingly came up to Littlefoot, saw that he was hungry, and wilingly gave up his own food to help him. Considering that food is very scarce, the fact that this baby fllyer was willing to give up its meal, the meal which might be the only one he'd get in a very long time, to a total stranger, who is of a different species, shows that some dinosaurs (though technically ptoersaurs aren't dinosaurs) not only lack prejudice against other species, but that there are kind dinos who will commit selfless acts for the sake of others, even those they never met.

The other purpose the scene serves is to show just how broken Littlefoot is. He just lost his mother and though he's hungry, he can't bring himself to eat it. He's so distraught that he just doesn't care about living. Littlefoot, at this point, is kinda suicidal. Not in the sense that he's actively trying to kill himself, but in that he is not doing much to help himself. It isn't until Ducky shows up and he realizes she's in the same boat as him (or a similar one at least) that he snaps out of his depression.

As for the "my tummy hurts", this actually makes sense for Littlefoot to say. Loss can feel very gut wrenching, and Littlefoot has never experienced this before. He isn't saying it out of hunger; he's saying it out of depression. It's not  an immature thing to say. And keep in mind, Littlefoot is a young kid; he's not really that mature in the movie and has shown some less than pleasurable moments. One example is when he tries to force Petrie to fly and keeps running despite Petrie desperatley telling him to stop. Now this wasn't a mature thing for him to do and pretty cold. However, I do like that it's in the movie because it shows that no, Littlefoot is not always mature because he's a kid and he still has so much to learn.

But while I do think that Littlefoot has some immature moments, the "my tummy hurts" certainly isn't one of them, given the sitiuation. He just lost his mother and that horrid feeling of loss, anxiety, and guilt is going to make his stomach hurt. That's how these powerful emotions can work. It's nothing I find remotely funny or something to smirk about.

Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dalekdino on April 30, 2014, 02:24:01 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Apr 30 2014 on  06:01 PM
The cherry scene actually does serve a purpose. At least at the end it does. At the very end, the flyer is trying to feed Littlefoot the cherry. But Littlefoot refuses to take it.

The purpose of this scene is twofold. First, it shows that not all dinosaurs have prejudice. This flyer willingly came up to Littlefoot, saw that he was hungry, and wilingly gave up his own food to help him. Considering that food is very scarce, the fact that this baby fllyer was willing to give up its meal, the meal which might be the only one he'd get in a very long time, to a total stranger, who is of a different species, shows that some dinosaurs (though technically ptoersaurs aren't dinosaurs) not only lack prejudice against other species, but that there are kind dinos who will commit selfless acts for the sake of others, even those they never met.

The other purpose the scene serves is to show just how broken Littlefoot is. He just lost his mother and though he's hungry, he can't bring himself to eat it. He's so distraught that he just doesn't care about living. Littlefoot, at this point, is kinda suicidal. Not in the sense that he's actively trying to kill himself, but in that he is not doing much to help himself. It isn't until Ducky shows up and he realizes she's in the same boat as him (or a similar one at least) that he snaps out of his depression.

As for the "my tummy hurts", this actually makes sense for Littlefoot to say. Loss can feel very gut wrenching, and Littlefoot has never experienced this before. He isn't saying it out of hunger; he's saying it out of depression. It's not  an immature thing to say. And keep in mind, Littlefoot is a young kid; he's not really that mature in the movie and has shown some less than pleasurable moments. One example is when he tries to force Petrie to fly and keeps running despite Petrie desperatley telling him to stop. Now this wasn't a mature thing for him to do and pretty cold. However, I do like that it's in the movie because it shows that no, Littlefoot is not always mature because he's a kid and he still has so much to learn.

But while I do think that Littlefoot has some immature moments, the "my tummy hurts" certainly isn't one of them, given the sitiuation. He just lost his mother and that horrid feeling of loss, anxiety, and guilt is going to make his stomach hurt. That's how these powerful emotions can work. It's nothing I find remotely funny or something to smirk about.
Why oh why is it almost every ruddy time I share my opinion I get lectured about it? This is way I didn't, talk about the scenes I find awkward and would have altered. Believe me I didn't want to smirk about it and I deeply retreat it.  Maybe they could have still had one of the flyers offering Littlefoot the cherry, but  from my POV I find the whole scene of fighting over it in that comedic way quite pointless.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dalekdino on April 30, 2014, 02:25:46 PM
Quote from: CeraTheRed,Apr 30 2014 on  03:33 PM
Quote from: Dalekdino,Apr 30 2014 on  08:23 AM
I personally wouldn't have bothered with the little flyers fighting over a cheery scene... I find it kinda
I can agree with that. I mean, the flyer cherry scene was cute, but what did it really do? Also, I admit, I liked Rooter. I think he would've been a nice addition to the Great Valley. I agree with THAT, too. Littlefoot DOES seem too mature to say that.
Glad someone agrees with me:)
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Malte279 on April 30, 2014, 03:28:05 PM
I don't think you were lectured.
It is a discussion forum and that means that everyone may post their opinions and reasons for them, but same as you are not obliged to agree to the opinions of others others are not obligued to agree with yours. The exchange of different and sometimes even opposing views is what keeps a good discussion going :)
If everyone is of the same view there wouldn't be any discussion at all and anyone posting the own view should also being willing to accept the views of others without taking offense in them (so long there are no personal attacks which was definitely not the case here).
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: WeirdRaptor on May 07, 2014, 06:39:59 PM
Pretty much most of the suggestions here, actually. In general, I'd have made the film a full one hour and thirty minutes long.

1. A Petrie hatching scene
2. Littlefoot's Grandparents having lines.
3. A more grand font for the title.
4. The scene where Littlefoot goes off by himself after his falling out with Cera and the others in which he discovers The Great Valley. Then show him going back for them.

I have disagree with you, Dalekdino, about the two scenes you bring up. No offense, of course. I kind of view the scene where the little flyers fight over the last cherry as a callback to some of the little moments you'd get in old school Disney films.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Littlefoot fan 1990 on November 21, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
There are some of the changes I would have made to the film:

1. A Petrie hatching scene. It would have been a good scene to watch.

2. I would like the idea of Cera's real mom and sisters being alive. It was sad that they were never mentioned after the first film.

3. I've always liked the idea of Littlefoot having real siblings. (three nestmates and an older sibling)

4. I would have made Littlefoot's grandparents interact with him more instead of waiting till the 2nd film.

5. I would introduce Bron as Littlefoot's dad in the 1st movie instead of waiting till movie 10.

6. I like the idea of Spike having his real parents and maybe a sibling or two.

7. No silly terms like bright circle, mountains that burn (I like sun and volcano better).

8. Don't kill off Littlefoot's mom.

9. Have Littlefoot refer to his mom as Mom instead of Mother.

10. Instead of waiting till the 4th movie; I'd introduce Ali and her herd in the 1st movie.

11. I would not make Ali and her herd be related to Littlefoot's grandparents.

Those are my ideas for changes. Feel free to disagree; we all have our own opinions.

 :)  :)  :smile  :wave  :yes
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on November 23, 2014, 08:11:05 PM

1.I wouldn't include the flashback sequence at the end. It just sort of came out of nowhere and was sort of treating us like we were goldfish.

2.I wouldn't have included old Rooter, either. I know he was made to soften the blow, but he just sort of appeared out of nowhere and was never brought up again. I feel the film manages to get across the advice he gives Littlefoot without that scene. Oh yes, and the circle of life mention doesn't help.

3. Oh, and the huge stampede near the oasis. Totally out of nowhere. That was unnecessary.

4. Also, the transitioning from defeating Sharptooth to Littlefoot on the cliff felt...odd. (I've heard that scene was originally going to be placed after the fight with Cera. Maybe put it there?)

5. Spike suddenly appearing twice the size he was when he hatched? Yeah, that clearly has problems. Why couldn't he be the same age as the rest?

6. Also, him being adopted felt sort of sudden. Why not have him find his own family?

7.. Oh yeah, and Cera's mom and sisters. They were missing at the end.

8.. The sudden transition to night after the earthquake was another bizarre thing, considering it was night five minutes ago.

9. Having the characters appear too bright in the great valley. Just...no.

10. Maybe play down the melodrama a tad.

11. The game of "don't step on a crack" is ruined when Ducky is shown intentionally changing the line...

12. The narrator. God, he was annoying. Just had to state the obvious, didn't he?

13. Petrie's lack of a backstory.

14. Also, him weirdly appearing black in his early shots.


15. The title's font.

16. All the trees in the oasis suddenly disapearing when they go to sleep? Yeah, that was weird.

17. "We're going the right way! The way to the great vallay!!!" some of those lines were delivered rather narmily.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on February 17, 2015, 01:43:10 AM
Quote from: Dalekdino,Apr 30 2014 on  08:23 AM

I would also in the scene with Littlefoot and Rooter, slightly changed Littlefoot's line from "My tummy hurts" To " My stomach hurts". I found that was too childish for Littlefoot, and I always had to try not to smirk when he said it..
I was ok with that until I heard Ducky use "stomach" instead of "tummy". Anyways, I wasn't quite sure of it's purpose until after hearing Dalekdino's explanation...which I seriously understand. It's not just losing someone you love that can make that happen---it's losing an opportunity as well.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Sneak on March 31, 2017, 03:59:39 AM
- Returning all known so far deleted scenes back to film (extended scenes with Sharptooth, oasis scene, scenes where children are in depression, extended scene with Spike, that scene with littlefoot and snake from early sketches, finding the valley by Littlefoot alone, ending, and many etc)
- adding Petrie's birth sequence
- more scenes with Grandma and Grandpa! And their talk.
- adding long-awaited Cera's apologizes :[
- (somehow) adding personality to... Sharptooth and his actions. Describing his true motives...
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dracorider19 on March 31, 2017, 07:18:33 AM
I agree with many on this topic of the changes they would have
 made to the film. Here are mine (including what others on this topic would have done):

. I would have made the film a bit longer.
. Have Rooter appear again in the Great Valley at the end.
. Have Cera's mom and sisters be shown in the Valley alive and well.
. Show Petrie's backstory.
. Change the fight between Littlefoot and Cera to this: While they would still argue,
instead of Cera insulting Littlefoot's mom, I would have her say something like "Then
she was wrong too", about which direction to go to the Valley. Also they would continue
to argue instead of escalating into a physical fight, which bothered me when I re-watched
it.
. And like others here, I would have given Littlefoot's grandparents some lines.

Well, that's my changes.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: ADFan185 on March 31, 2017, 07:38:56 AM
What about keeping the dejected sences in? Would you have done that?
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Sneak on March 31, 2017, 08:15:57 AM
@Adfan: What do you mean?

@Dracorider: Insulting and fight scenes are one of the most strong and "wonderful" situation in movie. It's culmination of confrontation between sides of Littlefoot and Cera, started from the beginning. It shouldn't be changed,replaced or removed somehow, in my opinion.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dracorider19 on March 31, 2017, 09:07:58 AM
Quote from: ADFan185,Mar 31 2017 on  06:38 AM
What about keeping the dejected sences in? Would you have done that?
Oh yeah, about those deleted scenes, well, I would definitely keep the scene where
Cera initially doesn't want Spike to come with them, but the gang manages to convince
her, and this would show Cera some more character development.
And yes, I would keep some scenes of Sharptooth, but others I would leave out just
as the original producers did since it would be too frightening for younger viewers.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dracorider19 on March 31, 2017, 09:10:38 AM
Quote from: Snik,Mar 31 2017 on  07:15 AM
@Adfan: What do you mean?

@Dracorider: Insulting and fight scenes are one of the most strong and "wonderful" situation in movie. It's culmination of confrontation between sides of Littlefoot and Cera, started from the beginning. It shouldn't be changed,replaced or removed somehow, in my opinion.
I don't really understand how insulting and fight scenes are "one of the most strong and
wonderful" in a movie. Sure, it was to show the characters's flaws, but I felt it was too
harsh and that's what made Cera the subject of bashing from so many. You can see
comments on that scene online hating on Cera and some even wishing Cera to be eaten
by the Sharptooth just for a childish insult.
Not every confrontation in a film needs to escalate into a fight.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dracorider19 on March 31, 2017, 09:14:51 AM
Quote from: Dracorider19,Mar 31 2017 on  08:10 AM
Quote from: Snik,Mar 31 2017 on  07:15 AM
@Adfan: What do you mean?

@Dracorider: Insulting and fight scenes are one of the most strong and "wonderful" situation in movie. It's culmination of confrontation between sides of Littlefoot and Cera, started from the beginning. It shouldn't be changed,replaced or removed somehow, in my opinion.
I don't really understand how insulting and fight scenes are "one of the most strong and
wonderful" in a movie. Sure, it was to show the characters's flaws, but I felt it was too
harsh and that's what made Cera the subject of bashing from so many. You can see
comments on that scene online hating on Cera and some even wishing Cera to be eaten
by the Sharptooth just for a childish insult.
Not every confrontation in a film needs to escalate into a fight.
 
Note: While I personally felt the fight was too harsh, I do agree
that the confrontation or argument was a good culmination.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Sneak on March 31, 2017, 10:32:50 AM
There's edit button, Dracorider19. ;)

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I don't really understand how insulting and fight scenes are "one of the most strong and
wonderful" in a movie. Sure, it was to show the characters's flaws, but I felt it was too
harsh and that's what made Cera the subject of bashing from so many.
Do you know why the most of people love original movie? Because people of all ages can view it. It isn't pure childish movie story for little kids like last sequels and TV series.
It contains some mature themes (like rasicm), heavy scenes (a lot of heavy scenes..), and many other elements. Atmosphere of depression, death and tension are filling air and land, almost every scene contains it. It creates unique realistic atmosphere, and when our protagonists steps into that world, viewers empathize them.

I believe there's no single sane people on planet who liked Cera's act in that scene. Myself hated her for VEEERY LONG TIME before I "forget" that awful act and "forgive" her. Of course people must do what they do about Cera, or they are unfeeling people (yes. I say you are unfeeling people if you WELCOME her act or do NOT think or say single bad word about her). But (not-)surprisingly, this scene makes film living. So I glad that scene happened.

Without such scenes, or with that scenes BUT directed VERY BAD like in some LBT movies (I guess ADFan would be pleased when he reads this! ^^) - fild turns into absolutely childish and empty.

All that heavy scenes in movie (except that deleted that can increase general atmosphere of tension even more!) make film perfect. It's like sugar and tea: if you put too much sugar into tea, you won't able to drink it! (like I did in childhood. 10 spoons of sugar and small cup of tea. Oooooh man... T_T ) But if you mix components in right proportion - you will get perfect piece of art (drink, lol :D). 

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Of course, it's all my personal opinion. And I hope somebody reads it.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Sovereign on March 31, 2017, 03:22:25 PM
While I see nothing great in violence or fighting per se, the scene did a good job at finally creating the rift within the Gang and later on it did show the error in Cera's ways. It's only natural that people hate her because of that scene but I believe that was the intention. Luckily, Cera has long since repented from that day.

As for overall improvements, most of them are mere ideas on how to make the film longer. The only way I could hope to improve the existing scenes is by replacing some existing voices. I see Jeff Bennett as a far better voice for Petrie than Will Ryan and maybe Cera's voice could be changed to Anndi Mcafee. I also usually prefer Felix Avitia's work as Littlefoot to Gabriel Damon's but the latter managed to do his part well when he had to. No one can improve Littlefoot's voice in the key scenes.

There is nothing to be improved in regards to animation, music or the overall plot. Even then, the film could and should have been longer. First, there could have been an additional lesson with Littlefoot's mother and Grandparents, maybe at an earlier age. Also, as many have pointed out, Petrie's birth should have been shown.

Later on, the scenes of Littlefoot's loneliness and depression could have been even longer. For example, he seemed to have resigned to his fate after his encounter with Cera. It ould have been a bit too depressing but there could have been a scene of Littlefoot his probable fate. As for his encounter with Ducky, the LBT Squad in Youtube had a nice suggestion. Littlefoot should have been ready to leave alone but then rethink that only he knows the way to the Great valley and because of that, he has a responsibility to guide Ducky.

Also, I believe there should been longer intervals between the meetings of new Gang members. There could have been more potential for Littlefoot/Ducky relationship before meeting Petrie. Also, Petrie should have been more like his sequel self. Here his whole personality is that he cannot fly and I like Petrie better in the sequels. My suggestions continue mostly by adding additional character interactions and personal scenes. For example, none of the others except Littlefoot spoke a lot about their families. Some kind of Always There scene could have worked. Also, Cera should have apologized to Littlefoot.

As for Snik's question, yes, I do approve darker scenes in animated films. Imagine Land Before Time with Incredibles-like atmosphere.  :x The whole film is about a dying world and the few remaining lights in the darkness. It's impossible to think about the film without darker elements. Also, the entire anti-racism theme would have been undermined if all of the dinosaurs had co-operated flawlessly. No group of friends is harmonious forever, especially in an situation like the Gang.

No, these scenes don't make the film worse. The way I see it, they enable the appreciation of places like the Great Valley or true friends like the Gang. Of course, this alone doesn't work. For example, the Black Cauldron and the animated Lord of the Rings were quite dark but they were still bad films. Meaningless "darkness" turns easily into useless edginess and serves no purpose. Bluth usually knew the balance and that's why I adore his work.  When done properly, darkness brings beauty and eventual joy into a film but it only underscores the director's lack of ideas if done badly. These days the animation directors don't even try dark scenes and that's one reason why they fail to get to me.
Title: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Sneak on March 31, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
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As for his encounter with Ducky, the LBT Squad in Youtube had a nice suggestion. Littlefoot should have been ready to leave alone but then rethink that only he knows the way to the Great valley and because of that, he has a responsibility to guide Ducky.
WOW WOW WOW WOW! :O
I never though about that!!!
It makes some sense...

I just thought that despite Littlefoot's depression and lose, death of his mother didn't break him (or at least, treestar and mother's voice scene revived him from completely broken state), and he remained himself. He didn't see anything bad in being with other kind of dinosaurs he friend. He tried to invite Cera to journey to Great Valley, but thanks to her behavior (Cera.. grrrr.. Cera...  :anger ), he temporarly blocked himself from other kinds of dinosaurs. But Ducky's behavior, smile and tears immediately dissolved that block, and he happily invited her. BUT I never thought that Littlefoot got huge feeling of responsibility right in scene with Ducky! I thought it happened later, when full gang formed. Or when they found Longneck Rock as a prove that they are on the right way as mother told.

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The whole film is about a dying world and the few remaining lights in the darkness.
Nice words... :)

When we are out there in the dark
 We'll dream about the sun
 In the dark we'll feel the light
 Warm our hearts, everyone


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Also, Petrie should have been more like his sequel self. Here his whole personality is that he cannot fly and I like Petrie better in the sequels.
Hmm, I would like to see a little little bit more personality to Petrie in original movie. Long ago I noticed Petrie in original movie and in sequels are quite different person! AND! I liked original Petrie more (and I don't talk about his normal speech in LBT1 :P). Because Petrie in sequels is... some kind of stereotipical person who always is scared and funny, and it makes him less... natural? . Petrie's panic moments in original movie looks more strong, and more natural. It's not just empty fear of something. I can feel emotions. I can feel despair and... some kind of strong force. something like good anger (or is it just for me?)
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 09, 2020, 03:42:20 PM
Sharptooth ‘s demise. I would have preferred the climax take place at the volcano and lava flows. It would have capitilized on Cera leading them “the wrong way,” that they are trapped on rocks above lava, but to escape the melting stones would be to face Sharptooth who is snarling and even tries to eat th as their rocky sqaure floats down the lava riveria. Then when they are forced to face Sharptooth, Littlefoot arrives saying “I’m coming!” and he instead of Cera is final member Gang needed to caste Sharptooth into the Lava, who even as he sinks into fiery obilivion, chomps and tries to eat them; his forked two fingers being the last thing to be submerged in lava grave. 

This ending gives Littlefoot more of tangible vengeance against Sharptooth for killing his mother. This climax would give Littlefoot closure and explain his willingness to help raise Chomper in LBTII without reservations. 
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Nanotyrannus on December 28, 2020, 07:04:36 PM
Though I think the movie is fine as it is - in fact, I personally wouldn't touch very much at all after Sharptooth's introduction - I do think that the first act could have been lifted even further if it took some more time to explore the world that it sets up; a potential scene that comes to mind is of Littlefoot and his family trying to find water after Littlefoot's first encounter with Cera.

Aside from that, that's about it; maybe a scene of Petrie hatching during the opening narration (perhaps as a counter to Cera seeming to be born without fear - maybe the thunder and lightning could send him practically flying out of his egg and he would have to be comforted by his mother, but that might be too comical), a very short scene where Cera first encounters the crownheads in the Mountains that Burn (I like the idea of her saying something that spurs them into attacking her) or giving Littlefoot's grandparents a couple of lines are the only other things I can think of.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: StardustSoldier on December 30, 2020, 12:57:50 PM
^I like all of those ideas. :)

As much as I love the movie myself, I came up with a whole bunch of little tweaks and additions I would've done for this fanfic novelization I was tentatively planning. I would like to share those ideas sometime soon, so I'll probably come back to this thread.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: StardustSoldier on February 12, 2021, 10:05:05 PM
This happens to be my 3,000th post on the forum!!!!
:duckyhappy :duckyhappy :duckyhappy :duckyhappy

In honour of this, I would like to share a little something I'd been meaning to share for quite a long time, although it mostly rested on the back burner until now. Over the summer of 2019, a few months after I joined the forum, I got the idea to do my own fanfic novelizations of every Land Before Time film. It was a short-lived ambition, since I realized that with all of my other writing projects, I probably wouldn't have the time or commitment for all these novelizations. But I kept the notes on my computer, and I thought it might still be interesting to share what my ideas were, especially once I discovered this thread here.

My novelizations would've been fairly faithful overall, but would still have had some noteworthy changes. For the first film especially I came up with a lot of ideas, haha. (See here for my notes on the sequels (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=282.msg524056#msg524056))

In general:
The beginning:
The middle:
The Gang splits up:
The volcano trek:
Climax & ending:
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Sneak on February 14, 2021, 05:56:37 PM
Good theme for your 3000th post, Stardust. :D

Once I also had idea about novelizations of (near-)every LBT movies and some TV episodes, with adding changes...


Nice changes you have!
Only one major thing doesn't fit my preferences, actually.
I still like original (not film) version of finding Great Valley by Littlefoot, before Volcano scene.


Happy to hear you left the idea about portraiting Sharptooth as he was in Illustrated story. I am against portrating Sharptooth as bloodthirsty villain who wants some killing spree, like he was portraited in Illustration story. I would love if he keeps his pure predatory nature only, pure instincts, not-villanious nature... excluding one exception: revenge motive after Littlefoot for his injured eye, and revenge against all gang after he finds out they are trying to get rid of him in second part of last fight scene.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Mr. Clubtail on March 16, 2021, 08:26:07 PM
Since this film is basically a Looney Tunes style of cartoony, here's the my list:

1. Changing the Apatosaurus's head design so that it does not look like this  :longneckBRUH when in front view.

2. Lengthening and making the creatures' tails skinnier. That has seriously been bugging me as they look foolish with those tails and recently, I thought that if dinosaurs had obese tails in real life, they would automatically have a tripod stance due to their tails' weight.

3. Changing the creatures' facial features so that they don't have tubular nostrils and heads shaped like a block from Minecraft.

4. Removing most of the creatures' skin sleeves. For crying out loud, not almost every creature needs skin sleeves!

4. Removing all the fat from the Saurolophus' nose and making Mama Swimmer a lot more feminine than looking like her husband.

5. Making the designs less cartoony and more like that of The Secret of NIMH except for the Dimorphodons and bugs.

6. Removing the scene where Petrie's eyeballs bulge out. For goodness sake, this makes this film a lot more comedic than dramatic.

7. Making Sharptooth more intimidating and making him look like the one from the poster.

8. Improving the sound quality. The sound quality is so bad in the first film that sometimes, I could hardly hear the characters talking or making other noises.

9. Making the children a lot more similar to their parents. They are so different, with the exception of Petrie, that I decided that they are a different variation from their parents.

10. Giving the words "Sun" and "Earthquake" their proper names.

11. Giving Topps, Mama Flyer, Mama Swimmer, and Littlefoot's grandparents far more dialogue.

12. Removing any bit of racism from the film. I'm not sure how a film with so much racism can get fantastic reviews and a G rating.

13. Making this film far more of a drama like Secret of NIMH than make this film more for little kids and toddlers than adults.

14. Making the kids more comparable in size to their parents. I never really get why Ducky looks like an an compared to her mother.

15. Making the flyers eat bugs rather than leaves.

16. Making Sharptooth's roar a lot more audible. Either his roar is far too quiet or I'm just a pathetic loser who somehow can't hear Sharptooth's roar and need to get my ears checked.

17. Giving the juvenile Triceratops brow horns.

18. Do something so that the characters' mouthes don't open at ridiculous gapes.

19. Making the characters less childish and more mature.

20. Improve the characters' facial expressions. The fact that sometimes, characters look like their smiling, even when they're not supposed to be, enrages me.

21. Stiffening Ducky and Petrie's crests and not have them flop around like spaghetti.

22. Adding a scene where Petrie is born.

23. Removing any part where Cera's voice breaks and therefore sounds like a man.

24. Making the quadrupedal dinosaurs limbs erect rather than sprawling as that concept is far too outdated and was thought to be innaccurate even before 1988.

25. Removing the dinosaurs' mammal-like ears.

26. Give the characters when their in the Great Valley their true colors.

27. Doing something so that Cera always has girly eyelashes and not just sometimes.

28. Removing the fleshy ridges on the dinosaurs' backs except for Saurolophus and T. Rex.

29. Giving the Ornithomimus a more ostrich like face than an eagle like face.


That's all I can think of for now.

Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dr. Rex on March 17, 2021, 04:01:51 AM
I honestly would've introduced Chomper and his parents here. For a film that's all about befriending people from all walks of life and working together with them, it seems to make a point of excluding Sharpteeth from that equation. Not only would it have driven the point home that not all Sharpteeth are like the one that killed Littlefoot's mother, but it would've been a more natural way for Littlefoot to realize that point as well, move on from his mother's death, and realize that family is important, no matter what the species.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 21, 2021, 04:19:22 AM
That Littlefoot’s Treestar that he was given by his mom wasn’t trampled.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dr. Rex on March 25, 2021, 01:51:21 AM
That Littlefoot’s Treestar that he was given by his mom wasn’t trampled.
Yeah, that part was pretty sad.

Then again, it was likely going to shrivel up and disintegrate in the end because no one would eat it. How would you have made Littlefoot let it go?
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on March 25, 2021, 03:52:47 AM
That Littlefoot’s Treestar that he was given by his mom wasn’t trampled.
Yeah, that part was pretty sad.

Then again, it was likely going to shrivel up and disintegrate in the end because no one would eat it. How would you have made Littlefoot let it go?

It would have been nice if he laid it in river in the Great Valley and watch it float away, and the rest of the Gang comes to Littlefoot and asks to play and he transitions to his new life in the Valley. 
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: F-14 Ace on March 25, 2021, 05:47:59 AM
What's the scene with the snake that people are talking about?
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Sneak on March 25, 2021, 09:04:14 AM
What's the scene with the snake that people are talking about?

Me personally referenced to this scene:
https://landbeforetime.fandom.com/wiki/The_Land_Before_Time
check Deleted Scenes section. You missed a looooot, if you never saw this and other found material. :D
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: LittleDas75 on April 04, 2021, 12:49:00 AM
I think we should have seen more of the fight between Cera and Littlefoot rather than having it be mostly off screen.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: credence007 on May 28, 2021, 02:43:22 AM
Would definitely have kept in the part where Littlefoot finds the Great Valley, kept in certain parts of the Sharptooth scene (Littlefoot’s Mother shown graphically getting bitten would have been cool) rearrange the scenes in the correct order. They also should have kept in the Oasis part with the 2 dinosaur herds who won’t share because they are prejudiced against one another, which definitely would have been nice to further enhance the message of anti-racism.

I’ve also heard rumors (although they are unconfirmed) about what happens when Spike first joins the herd. Supposedly Cera gets so upset that she wanders off (that’s why you see her in the background in that particular scene of the movie) but she supposedly ends up in a dark and creepy forest, where she sees Sharptooth, but is fortunate enough to escape his glance, as he is busy eating and finishing off a dying dinosaur. Cera hides inside the bones of a dead triceratops so she isn’t seen, but slips away while he’s not looking. That’s when she returns back before they see the large grove of trees that get devoured by the herd of diplodocus. Like I said, this particular scene is just a rumor and not completely confirmed.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Mouse-a-saur on May 28, 2021, 09:15:43 PM
Cera hides inside the bones of a dead triceratops so she isn’t seen, but slips away while he’s not looking.
Oof, that's really grisly.  :duckyworried Would have definitely been unsettling.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: StardustSoldier on June 01, 2021, 02:48:26 PM
Cera hides inside the bones of a dead triceratops so she isn’t seen, but slips away while he’s not looking.
Oof, that's really grisly.  :duckyworried Would have definitely been unsettling.

Definitely unsettling indeed. I feel like the scene in question probably wasn't an actual part of the movie, as it sounds a bit too gruesome even considering our knowledge of everything else in the uncut version. Cera wandering around by herself in a dark and creepy forest sounds like a cool idea for a scene though.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dr. Rex on June 30, 2021, 11:29:16 PM
That Littlefoot’s Treestar that he was given by his mom wasn’t trampled.
Yeah, that part was pretty sad.

Then again, it was likely going to shrivel up and disintegrate in the end because no one would eat it. How would you have made Littlefoot let it go?

It would have been nice if he laid it in river in the Great Valley and watch it float away, and the rest of the Gang comes to Littlefoot and asks to play and he transitions to his new life in the Valley. 
That's...actually a pretty good idea.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on August 18, 2021, 12:55:57 AM
That Littlefoot’s Treestar that he was given by his mom wasn’t trampled.
Yeah, that part was pretty sad.

Then again, it was likely going to shrivel up and disintegrate in the end because no one would eat it. How would you have made Littlefoot let it go?

It would have been nice if he laid it in river in the Great Valley and watch it float away, and the rest of the Gang comes to Littlefoot and asks to play and he transitions to his new life in the Valley. 
That's...actually a pretty good idea.

Thanks. I think it would have been a nicer send off to Momma Longneck’s Treestar. Sharptooth trampling it kinda feels like an excessive insult, I mean he killed Littlefoot’s mom and then destroys his only memento from her.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Sneak on August 18, 2021, 04:33:45 AM
It would have been nice if he laid it in river in the Great Valley and watch it float away, and the rest of the Gang comes to Littlefoot and asks to play and he transitions to his new life in the Valley. 
Whoa! :O
I like this...
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: LittlefootOnASkateboard on August 18, 2021, 04:50:40 PM
This is a cool idea for a thread! I agree with just about everything OP suggested.

I could probably think of more changes I'd make but here's three that comes to mind:

Rooter

I could probably think of some more later but the one that really comes to mind is Rooter, the friendly Scolosaurus Littlefoot bumps into (literally) after losing his mother. He seems to be a kind and caring dinosaur, yet it doesn't seem to occur to him to help this recently orphaned, starving child?

I know dinosaurs at the time mostly just cared about themselves but even so, it doesn't make much sense to me. It sorta lessens the impact of that scene a little bit.

The fix would be simple. Just make him some semi-aquatic species, and show him swimming off before giving Littlefoot some important advice. That would have indicated to the audience that Rooter couldn't have followed Littlefoot on his journey.

Greedy longnecks

In the scene where the gang discovers a lone cluster of trees, only to see it abruptly depleted by a herd of apatosaurus, I would have changed them to some non-longneck herbivore. Iguanas maybe. I'd also have them crush trees and fight over the remaining treestars. It would make the scene more intense, give the kids a reason to just stay behind as they do and really shows the desperate, dire state of the world.

Plus, if they were longnecks, it introduces the question of why Littlefoot just couldn't go with them. Surely, they'd accept one of their own? Besides, I think the story works better if Littlefoots mother and grandparents are the only longnecks he sees before reaching the valley.

Domeheads => Raptors

I would have also swapped out the domehead Pachycephalosauruses to some raptor species. A. because raptors are cool, and B: it just makes more sense. It'd also have an establishing shot of the raptors hiding behind some rocks or something as the gang reach the tarpits.

The original scriptb]
Just about every deleted scene I've read and heard of from the original script seems like they would have improved the story. Especially Littlefoot finding the valley before going back to tell his friends. It just works better that way.



Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on August 18, 2021, 07:03:30 PM
I always saw Rooter as perhaps an angelosaur, like the Rainbowfaces who shows up to comfort Little Foot with some words.

However, say Rooter is just a regular dino, he probably felt he actually would be a burden on Littlefoot. Being old and not as strong, he’d slow Littlefoot down and Sharptooth would likely have found Littlefoot even more easily with Rooter.

The Greedy Longnecks worked for me because it showed all the dinos are in survival gear, thinking of themselves or  their immediate herd. It is the Gang and then the Great Valley herds who break with survival gear and think of those outside the pale of survival needs.

I actually liked the domehead antagonists. Sharptooth being the only Carnivour antagonist gives him more prominence, and we have to rember that T-Rex was the ultimate beloved carnivour at that time, raptors didn’t become famous till Jurassic Park (1993), which came out five years after The Land Before Time (1988).
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Dr. Rex on September 06, 2021, 11:18:23 PM
This is a cool idea for a thread! I agree with just about everything OP suggested.

I could probably think of more changes I'd make but here's three that comes to mind:

Rooter

I could probably think of some more later but the one that really comes to mind is Rooter, the friendly Scolosaurus Littlefoot bumps into (literally) after losing his mother. He seems to be a kind and caring dinosaur, yet it doesn't seem to occur to him to help this recently orphaned, starving child?

I know dinosaurs at the time mostly just cared about themselves but even so, it doesn't make much sense to me. It sorta lessens the impact of that scene a little bit.

The fix would be simple. Just make him some semi-aquatic species, and show him swimming off before giving Littlefoot some important advice. That would have indicated to the audience that Rooter couldn't have followed Littlefoot on his journey.

Greedy longnecks

In the scene where the gang discovers a lone cluster of trees, only to see it abruptly depleted by a herd of apatosaurus, I would have changed them to some non-longneck herbivore. Iguanas maybe. I'd also have them crush trees and fight over the remaining treestars. It would make the scene more intense, give the kids a reason to just stay behind as they do and really shows the desperate, dire state of the world.

Plus, if they were longnecks, it introduces the question of why Littlefoot just couldn't go with them. Surely, they'd accept one of their own? Besides, I think the story works better if Littlefoots mother and grandparents are the only longnecks he sees before reaching the valley.

Domeheads => Raptors

I would have also swapped out the domehead Pachycephalosauruses to some raptor species. A. because raptors are cool, and B: it just makes more sense. It'd also have an establishing shot of the raptors hiding behind some rocks or something as the gang reach the tarpits.

The original scriptb]
Just about every deleted scene I've read and heard of from the original script seems like they would have improved the story. Especially Littlefoot finding the valley before going back to tell his friends. It just works better that way.




I actually like the Rooter idea. Not only would it have probably resulted in a fascinating water scene, but it would've made Rooter's role in the film more sense.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: LittlefootOnASkateboard on September 11, 2021, 11:53:00 PM
This is a cool idea for a thread! I agree with just about everything OP suggested.

I could probably think of more changes I'd make but here's three that comes to mind:

Rooter

I could probably think of some more later but the one that really comes to mind is Rooter, the friendly Scolosaurus Littlefoot bumps into (literally) after losing his mother. He seems to be a kind and caring dinosaur, yet it doesn't seem to occur to him to help this recently orphaned, starving child?

I know dinosaurs at the time mostly just cared about themselves but even so, it doesn't make much sense to me. It sorta lessens the impact of that scene a little bit.

The fix would be simple. Just make him some semi-aquatic species, and show him swimming off before giving Littlefoot some important advice. That would have indicated to the audience that Rooter couldn't have followed Littlefoot on his journey.

Greedy longnecks

In the scene where the gang discovers a lone cluster of trees, only to see it abruptly depleted by a herd of apatosaurus, I would have changed them to some non-longneck herbivore. Iguanas maybe. I'd also have them crush trees and fight over the remaining treestars. It would make the scene more intense, give the kids a reason to just stay behind as they do and really shows the desperate, dire state of the world.

Plus, if they were longnecks, it introduces the question of why Littlefoot just couldn't go with them. Surely, they'd accept one of their own? Besides, I think the story works better if Littlefoots mother and grandparents are the only longnecks he sees before reaching the valley.

Domeheads => Raptors

I would have also swapped out the domehead Pachycephalosauruses to some raptor species. A. because raptors are cool, and B: it just makes more sense. It'd also have an establishing shot of the raptors hiding behind some rocks or something as the gang reach the tarpits.

The original scriptb]
Just about every deleted scene I've read and heard of from the original script seems like they would have improved the story. Especially Littlefoot finding the valley before going back to tell his friends. It just works better that way.


I actually like the Rooter idea. Not only would it have probably resulted in a fascinating water scene, but it would've made Rooter's role in the film more sense.

Yeah, I think so too! As it is, he just kinda shows up, gives his little pep-talk and in the next scene, he's gone and Littlefoot is teleported to another location. He's the one friendly adult we encounter after his mother's death in a dying wasteland without trees or water. Rooter is clearly a friendly dinosaur so why would he leave this recently orphaned cub to survive on his own?


I always saw Rooter as perhaps an angelosaur, like the Rainbowfaces who shows up to comfort Little Foot with some words.

However, say Rooter is just a regular dino, he probably felt he actually would be a burden on Littlefoot. Being old and not as strong, he’d slow Littlefoot down and Sharptooth would likely have found Littlefoot even more easily with Rooter.

The Greedy Longnecks worked for me because it showed all the dinos are in survival gear, thinking of themselves or  their immediate herd. It is the Gang and then the Great Valley herds who break with survival gear and think of those outside the pale of survival needs.

I actually liked the domehead antagonists. Sharptooth being the only Carnivour antagonist gives him more prominence, and we have to rember that T-Rex was the ultimate beloved carnivour at that time, raptors didn’t become famous till Jurassic Park (1993), which came out five years after The Land Before Time (1988).

Good points!

Yeah, the idea of Rooter is one of those metaphysical angel-dinos is super-interesting and would explain a lot! Where he comes from. Why he's alone. Why he just disappears. And as you said, it's also possible he's simply too old to travel with Littlefoot. That too would make sense, but isn't suggested by the movie itself. So I still find it a bit jarring.

I still feel the The Greedy Longnecks scene would have worked better if they weren't longnecks. There are so many other herbivores you could have picked! Iguanodons maybe. I also would have made the adults represented more of a threat. Fighting, trashing trees in a desperate feeding frenzy. That would have given the kids a reason to stay back and would have made it more clear that following this herd simply wasn't an option. And it would have driven home the sheer desperation of the situation.

As for the raptors - yeah you're right. I just like raptors, lol. And the fact that this was before JP would mean that this movie would have been uniquely posed to introduce moviegoers everywhere to these swift fast-biters. An the other claw, the domeheads were really scary. It just didn't feel right that a bunch of herbivores would attack like that! But they were defending their swamp lol.


Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: GreyLizard226 on November 25, 2022, 12:18:35 PM
That Littlefoot’s Treestar that he was given by his mom wasn’t trampled.
Yeah, that part was pretty sad.

Then again, it was likely going to shrivel up and disintegrate in the end because no one would eat it. How would you have made Littlefoot let it go?

It would have been nice if he laid it in river in the Great Valley and watch it float away, and the rest of the Gang comes to Littlefoot and asks to play and he transitions to his new life in the Valley. 
That's...actually a pretty good idea.

I’d change the part about it getting destroyed, too…but having Littlefoot just get rid of it also seems a bit harsh, assuming it’s actually the treestar his mom gave him (it’s not impossible the one he found in the footprint scene is a different one). After all, it’s not like Petrie would just get rid of the snuggling stick he apparently came to the great valley with.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: GreyLizard226 on November 26, 2022, 05:42:17 PM
That Littlefoot’s Treestar that he was given by his mom wasn’t trampled.
Yeah, that part was pretty sad.

Then again, it was likely going to shrivel up and disintegrate in the end because no one would eat it. How would you have made Littlefoot let it go?

It would have been nice if he laid it in river in the Great Valley and watch it float away, and the rest of the Gang comes to Littlefoot and asks to play and he transitions to his new life in the Valley. 
That's...actually a pretty good idea.

Thanks. I think it would have been a nicer send off to Momma Longneck’s Treestar. Sharptooth trampling it kinda feels like an excessive insult, I mean he killed Littlefoot’s mom and then destroys his only memento from her.

Well, we don’t know for 100% sure it’s the same treestar. But if it is, Littlefoot getting rid of it just doesn’t seem right. I mean, I guess in real life it would shrivel up. But when you have an artistic license, why not make use of it? Since Petrie also has a memento he brought to the valley, I think it works.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: LittleDas75 on January 16, 2023, 11:04:45 PM
I would add a scene where Cera apologizes to Littlefoot for being an absolute jerk towards him.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on June 22, 2023, 04:46:34 PM
Another change I would have made is to the title of the film in the opening.
What bugs me about the title in the opening is that it's just plan bold white text, and look really boring.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640x480q90/835/r62g.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/n7r62gj)

I would have had the title in the opening look more like it dose on the poster and VHS and DVD cover.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/833/d5yq.jpg) (https://imageshack.com/i/n5d5yqj)

I would also have made a little change to the scene were Littlefoot and Ducky first meet Petrie. Instead of having Littlefoot yelling like a maniac ( and gives us a lovely view down his gob) I would just have him do a quick "Argh!" and back away, before sending Petrie flying through the air and crash into the ground.
Seriously that bit freaked me out as a kid....

Speaking of Petrie, I would have made a scene showing his hatching at the start of the film.

I agree, the title in film should match the posters.
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: 00not_nathan00 on September 05, 2023, 08:22:27 PM
I would have leaned more into the 7 deadly sins. Because Cera and Spike both portray at least 1 of the traits Spike is Gluttony and Cera being Pride. Maybe if Littlefoot could have been Lust you know longing to see if mother one more time and not really understanding why she had to go. Maybe Petrie could have been Envy of all the other Flyers who can fly but wondering why he can't. What if Ducky could have been maybe Sloth in that scene where she meets Littlefoot. You know not wanting to go with him to the great valley stuck wondering where her family is that sort of thing. Because that I think could have been interesting seeing how all these other dinosaurs are portrayed or portray themselves in the movie.         
Title: Re: Changes you would have made to the film
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on September 15, 2023, 02:18:35 PM
Would definitely have kept in the part where Littlefoot finds the Great Valley, kept in certain parts of the Sharptooth scene (Littlefoot’s Mother shown graphically getting bitten would have been cool) rearrange the scenes in the correct order. They also should have kept in the Oasis part with the 2 dinosaur herds who won’t share because they are prejudiced against one another, which definitely would have been nice to further enhance the message of anti-racism.

I’ve also heard rumors (although they are unconfirmed) about what happens when Spike first joins the herd. Supposedly Cera gets so upset that she wanders off (that’s why you see her in the background in that particular scene of the movie) but she supposedly ends up in a dark and creepy forest, where she sees Sharptooth, but is fortunate enough to escape his glance, as he is busy eating and finishing off a dying dinosaur. Cera hides inside the bones of a dead triceratops so she isn’t seen, but slips away while he’s not looking. That’s when she returns back before they see the large grove of trees that get devoured by the herd of diplodocus. Like I said, this particular scene is just a rumor and not completely confirmed.

Seeing Sharptooth actually eat would have added to his terror.