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Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => The Arts => Silver Screen => Topic started by: LittleDas75 on May 06, 2021, 03:31:52 PM

Title: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 06, 2021, 03:31:52 PM
It's time to take a look back at what used to be the most hated JP film. There might already be a thread on this film but I am too lazy to go and check.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 06, 2021, 03:35:42 PM
First let's talk about the thing that is coming to everyone's mind right now, the Spinosaurus. :RedclawTerrified
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2021, 04:54:03 PM
I actually rewatched it a couple days ago in a JP/JW marathon.

Spino is my favorite antagonist. I like him more than the T-Rex frankly.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on May 06, 2021, 04:56:35 PM
I actually liked this film a lot as a kid. Helps that it brought back my favorite character, Alan Grant, and it pretty much codified the now-ubiquitous Spinosaurus as the T-Rex's arch-rival. I think most kids identified with Eric Kirby, thinking we'd be the badass kid who could survive all alone on a dinosaur-filled island for weeks. I think it was also the first movie in the series to use flying dinosaurs as a legitimate danger instead of just skybox setpieces.

I remember changing my ringtone to "♪♫♪ Kirby Paint & Tile Plus in Westgate! ♪♫♪" after downloading it from some shifty 90s website, haha
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 06, 2021, 05:00:08 PM
I actually rewatched it a couple days ago in a JP/JW marathon.

Spino is my favorite antagonist. I like him more than the T-Rex frankly.
Yeah. I think people made a big deal out of the Spino killing the T. Rex. It didn't bother me that much as a kid. Yeah it is inaccurate but when has JP ever been scientifically accurate?
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2021, 07:30:17 PM
Quote from: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on May 06, 2021, 04:56:35 PM
Quote from: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on May 06, 2021, 04:56:35 PM
I actually liked this film a lot as a kid. Helps that it brought back my favorite character, Alan Grant, and it pretty much codified the now-ubiquitous Spinosaurus as the T-Rex's arch-rival. I think most kids identified with Eric Kirby, thinking we'd be the badass kid who could survive all alone on a dinosaur-filled island for weeks. I think it was also the first movie in the series to use flying dinosaurs as a legitimate danger instead of just skybox setpieces.

I remember changing my ringtone to "♪♫♪ Kirby Paint & Tile Plus in Westgate! ♪♫♪" after downloading it from some shifty 90s website, haha

There were some great tie in junior novellizations about Eric Kirby’s life on Isla Sorna during those weeks. In the book I read you find out hiw he got the T-Rex pee.

The other jr. novel deals with the escaped Pteradoons at the end of the film.

I actually rewatched it a couple days ago in a JP/JW marathon.

Spino is my favorite antagonist. I like him more than the T-Rex frankly.
Yeah. I think people mad a big deal out of the Spino killing the T. Rex. It didn't bother me that much as a kid. Yeah it is inaccurate but when has JP ever been scientifically accurate?

It didn’t bother me either. It was a scene to solidly Spino’s supremacy. Also if you look carefully in HD, the Rex is not a full grown adult, its sub-adult/ teenager.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 06, 2021, 07:36:28 PM
In general the Spinosaurus is a very awesome addition to the franchise even if they glorified it a lot.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 06, 2021, 09:55:37 PM
And it really ticks me off that in Jurassic World they had Rexy bust through a Spinosaurus skeleton just to spite this film.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 06, 2021, 11:46:23 PM
They did the same in Fallen Kingdom with Rexy smashing Indominus Rex’s spinal column.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 07, 2021, 02:50:54 PM
I guess the only problem I have with the Spino is that it's able to smash through a steel fence but it can't smash through a metal door?
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 07, 2021, 07:16:05 PM
I remember as a kid this was the Jurassic Park film I watched the most.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 08, 2021, 04:38:49 AM
I remember as a kid this was the Jurassic Park film I watched the most.

Same here. It was at our local theater for a long time.  Much longer than other films.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 08, 2021, 09:59:34 AM
Personally I think this film has the most memorable soundtrack in the entire franchise.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Flathead770 on May 08, 2021, 11:24:59 AM
Clearly the most memorable part of this movie for me  :PLoofah

(https://www.roguesportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Jurassic-Park-3-7.gif)

If I recall, the spinosaurus was completely CGI instead of the original T-Rex being partly animatronic in some scenes. I thought the movie was ok. I actually find the 2nd one to be my least favourite of the 3 as the whole city part of it I found kinda boring. Plus the gymnastic girl kicking a raptor out the window was pretty dumb. At least the girl in the first movie saying "It's a Unix system" is funny in a bad way and can be used as a reference (something my friend and I do all the time anytime something fake hacking happens in other movies).
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 08, 2021, 12:28:36 PM
As a kid I didn't even notice the Raptor had it's hands on the seat. Also the Spinosaurus also had a animatronic version as well.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Flathead770 on May 08, 2021, 01:16:42 PM
Actually I just noticed it as well when posting the gif haha.

Oh it did, cool. I guess I need to watch the movie again at some point haha.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 08, 2021, 05:10:23 PM
Speaking of there's one criticism for this film that I have heard people repeat is the special effects are a downgrade from the the last two films and I kind of agree. The CGI is noticeably lower quality than in The Lost World and the animatronics don't look or move as naturally as the animatronics in the previous two films did. But for 2001 the effects are still pretty good.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 10, 2021, 07:13:14 AM
As a kid I didn't even notice the Raptor had it's hands on the seat. Also the Spinosaurus also had a animatronic version as well.

This is true, the Spino was animatronic for many scenes, especially the climax where is assails the boat. The scene where Tea Leoni is grabbed by the Spino’s claws in the submerged cage really happened, she is really screaming because the animatronic dino tore into and hurt her.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 10, 2021, 03:06:14 PM
Wait the blood in that scene was real?
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 13, 2021, 01:12:02 PM
Wait the blood in that scene was real?

Yep.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 13, 2021, 05:42:04 PM
Wow. Stan wasn't messing around when he said these machines could harm you.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 15, 2021, 11:20:09 AM
By the way this has nothing to do with the film but I get really annoyed when Kathleen, I hate with a burning passion, Kennedy calls the Pteranodon's "flying Dinosaurs." :petriemad
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 15, 2021, 02:39:06 PM
Wow. Stan wasn't messing around when he said these machines could harm you.

He actually said, “these things can kill you.”  ;)
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 15, 2021, 02:47:34 PM
By the way I grew up with the fullscreen version of this film and I honestly prefer that version over the widescreen version.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 18, 2021, 02:37:29 PM
By the way I grew up with the fullscreen version of this film and I honestly prefer that version over the widescreen version.

Interesting. I had both full and wide screen versions myself.

I hate the new logo on the digital box cover. They removed the Spino skeleton and put the T-Rex on amber orange.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 19, 2021, 04:26:14 PM
Yeah me too.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 19, 2021, 05:49:58 PM
By the way I adore Don Davis' score in this film. I think it's just as good as John Williams.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 19, 2021, 07:36:17 PM
By the way I adore Don Davis' score in this film. I think it's just as good as John Williams.

Same here, I think its actually better than William’s The Lost World: Jurassic Park.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 22, 2021, 09:48:02 PM
I am pretty annoyed that none of his score was used in Lego Jurassic World.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 25, 2021, 03:30:06 PM
Snagged this today when I was at the store:

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Boy did it bring back memories. I loved JPIII, maybe more than JP even (blasphemy I know). The Spinosaurus was just such a terrifying apex predator, and I loved the Velociraptors.

The Spinosaurus I had twenty years ago had cheap rubber skin (see pic below), and the mouth could not close and chomp, it had SFX, and could move its head animatronically. But I’d have prepared this superior Camp Cretaceous version.

(https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/192056808_307337180881445_785294833646333532_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=wXrdkxVCtQYAX_PE5Ey&tn=nhPvDMgtZo3pniv1&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&tp=14&oh=2d3291e335258566970df2c9f8f53e2a&oe=60D48432)

I also had the smaller Spinos, one what was aqua and white, the other was the traditional colors.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 25, 2021, 06:15:13 PM
Actually if put your hand around the large Hasbro Spino's neck and squeeze you could open and close it's mouth. But yeah the Mattel one is so much better.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 25, 2021, 07:20:45 PM
Actually if put your hand around the large Hasbro Spino's neck and squeeze you could open and close it's mouth. But yeah the Mattel one is so much better.

You could force close its mouth that is true, but It too was a cheap rubber. I prefer Camp Cretaceous one. :)
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 27, 2021, 03:37:58 PM
Honestly the fight between the Spino and Rex made me love Spinosaurus even more.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 27, 2021, 04:05:22 PM
Honestly the fight between the Spino and Rex made me love Spinosaurus even more.

Same here. It was Joe trying to make clear to audiences that Spino is apex. It didn’t infuriate me at all. I was on T-Rex burn out from Lost World: JP.

I found Spino to be more terrifying, something about the crocodilian snout that makes him fearsome. The T-Rex always looks like he’s smiling, and frankly has been turned into an antihero, so I am never afraid for the cast anymore.   
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: LittleDas75 on May 27, 2021, 08:18:52 PM
And the sound effects are very chilling.
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on May 27, 2021, 10:34:05 PM
I've never actually seen Camp Cretaceous, anyone seen it and have opinions on whether it's good or not?
Title: Re: Jurassic Park 3 20th Anniversary Revisit
Post by: Gentle Sharptooth on May 28, 2021, 12:57:00 AM
Quote from: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on May 27, 2021, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: aabicus (LettuceBacon&Tomato) on May 27, 2021, 10:34:05 PM
I've never actually seen Camp Cretaceous, anyone seen it and have opinions on whether it's good or not?

I love it! Seen all three seasons. I started a thread about it. I’ll post again and we can discuss it there.