The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => LBT Fanart => Topic started by: Platvoet en zijn Vriendjes on February 04, 2005, 12:06:06 PM
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Hi all,
I've been looking for a world map of lbt, but i can't find it anywere, does someone knows were i can find it? Or has someone made it?
Please let me know, i will be happy :DD
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I've never heard of anyone making a world map of LBT.
Nick
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Me nither. never heard or seen one online... wait yes I did... came across one once. but never came across it again.
-Threehorn
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Where everything is would probably be pretty vague, I'd imagine
Nick
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I believe there is different areas into the Great Valley. It is massive.
So I guess if someone looked at it in a clever view they could make a map of it.
-Threehorn
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I suppose it is possible to make a map of LBt, if you use your imagination.
Nick
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Yep, that all it takes to make such things. it took the imagination of the two directors in 1986-87 to create the very first LBT.
-Threehorn
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Good Point Threehorn.
Nick
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There are a few maps of the Great Valley respectively the whole world around it drawn by fans. I shall post some examples here as soon as I come past a faster connection next time, which permits me to do so.
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Great, it's cool to have such a map
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Yeah, would love to see these maps. :D
-Threehorn
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Had Malte not posted I would've said he had one. :P: For sale. :lol:
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A LBT worldmap huh?! To be honest, I never really thought the concept was doable! I mean, unless the artists at Universal actually made it themselves, I'm pretty sure everyone else would have different ideas on where landmarks in and around the Great Valley would be placed. I mean there are some areas of the Great Valley that are mentioned only the once and never spoke of again (eg Two Boulder Pass). It would be a cool sight to see (don't get me wrong) but I dunno if the LBT world can be pieced together that easily! Not without one person's specific influence and personal recommendation of where everything should be...If everyone one drew a map, they'd probably all be different
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I agree with Jason....there is no specific reference to where everything is, so what one thinks is an accurate map, might seem wrong to someone else. Those that have actually tried to make one really had a lot of stuff to sift through and consider so it sure was no easy job.
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Hi!
Now I have acces to a fast internet connection again so I can post the Great Valley map here which I've mentioned before.
Note that I did not draw it. All credit for it must be given to a land before time fan who posted in the network54 LBT forum in July 2003 using the name Steven. His map shows the Great Valley and the surrounding land we see in the other sequels up to LBT 9.
A while ago I've also tried to draw a map of the Great Valley that should be based on the different information we get from the movies. Moreover I tried to include a
few landmarks in the Great Valley that I invented for my fanfictions.
However, I never finished the map. The greatest problem was that the information we get from the movies are partly very contradictory, especially in the second
movie. Some things we can say in general about the Great Valley are the
following:
It is surrounded by impassable rocks known as the Great Wall.
There is an uncertain number of entrances through the Great Valley of which
some are too small to be used by grownups, and some lead only out to small
rocky ledges on the outer side of the Great Wall (we see one of these in LBT
3 and another one in LBT 4). We see different ways that are passable for any
kind of dinosaur out of the Valley in the second, third, fourth, fifth,
sixth and eight movie. As they all look different (partly there are simply
broad gaps and partly there are rather narrow pathways leading up the Great
Wall) there have to be many entrances. The Great Valley is crossed by a
broad river that is depending on the movie more or leas meandering. In the
first movie we even see the river surrounding small crescent-shaped islands.
Maybe the rivers flow changes from time to time. There is one big waterfall
in the Great Valley known as "Thundering Falls" that seems to be the only
source of the river (otherwise it wouldn't have been that fatal when it
"dried up" in LBT 3) appart from that the Great Valley has a number of
different water-holes and billabongs that we see in several different
movies. The Big river that crosses the Great Valley is not unlikely to have
some side branches as we repeatedly see the characters at creeks, brooks, or
streams that look much smaller than the great river. Large parts of the
great Valley are covered with forest or jungle, but still there are big open
fields. Depending on the movie (or the part of the Valley we see) the floor
of the Great Valley is either quite level or rugged with hills, rocks and
boulders. There are some kinds of tar-pit that are shown in the sixth and
refered to in the seventh movie. These tar-pits seem to be quite shallow as
nobody seems to consider it dangerous that the kids play in it (though such
tar pits were true "fossil-makers" and are today a treasure pits for each
paleontologist). A dangerous place seems to be the "sinking sand" (second
movie), a marsh or deep pit of quick sand.
In the second movie we see a volcano located at the edge of the Great Valley
that nobody seems to consider as a threat either (it will be important in my
current story). A rather interesting part of the Great Valley is shown in
the sixth movie. Saurus rock is located at the outskirts of the Great Valley
and these outskirts seem to be rather secluded from the rest of the Valley.
It seems to be placed on a high plateau as a high rocky wall needs to be
climped to get to it (I don't understand how Littlefoot's grandfather made
to get up there). Moreover a deep gorge needs to be crossed that seems to
seperate the part of the plateau with saurus rock from the rest. The gorge
seems to have open ends in the Mysterious Beyond and thus would be another
entrance to the Great Valley (or at least to the secluded plateau on which
Saurus rock is standing) which allows sharpteeth to roam in that part of the
valley and Doc to leave it from there. There are also some things we learn
about the immediate surroundings of the Great Valley. There has to be a huge
wasteland to the east (it's the area Littlefoot and the others migrated
through in the first movie) and nearby has to be the pond where sharptooth
fought his last fight. To another direction has to be a rather dry rocky
land somewhat resembling a desert (though maybe I've exaggerated it a bit in
my story). It's the area Littlefoot and Ali had to cross in LBT 4 to get to
the land of mists. Finally there has to be quite a number of high mountains
that we see especially in LBT 7 and LBT 8. The Great Wall might be part of a
bigger mountain chain. Despite all this information I fear that it is
impossible to create a map of the Great Valley that would be generally true,
but still it will be a lot of fun to try unless you take the matter too
serious ;-)
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I can see the land marks. I have to say this is fantasic. First real sight I think of looking at a map.
-Threehorn
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great map, i love it
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Just like it was....two years ago. :blink: Has it really been that long since you showed that to me? It's a nice interpretation all the same. Do you still talk to this Steven?
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So the map needs to be updated to include the last two movies.
Nick
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Yeah, but LBT 11 is based mainly in the valley and the tinysaurs seem to enter the area which Littlefoot and Ali went through in LBT 4. For LBT 10... well that needs a lot more map then we see. it took them around 4 to 5 days to get there. that surely a long walk.
-Threehorn
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Very true. But It could be done.
Nick
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There are some points though which will be difficult to explain. For example how it is possible that there is a definitely "unmonitored" exit of the Great Valley into its "border region" where sharpteeth walk freely (in LBT 6). Even though this exit can be managed by Littlefoot's grandfather it seems to be impossible for any sharpteeth. Why?
If it was a save entrance for sharpteeth, what worth would the Great Valley's protection through the Great Wall anyway?
This is one question I failed to answer when I was drawing a map of the Great Valley a while ago.
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Maybe there's some secret way to open it...considering these dinos are pretty smart, maybe they've crafted something.
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As for the dinosaurs of LBT I can't really imagine them to develope anything much more ingenious than what they did to close the gap in LBT 2. Also I don't see why they should be capable of constructing anything sharpteeth (who are able to smash even large rocks with their heads as you can see in the original and the 6th movie) couldn't pass.
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Malte's right. The residents of the Great Valley are dependent on the natural walls on the Great Valley to protect themselves.
Nick
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And the problem of this is that I cannot think of any physical barrier that would allow fully grown longnecks to pass, but not a comperatively little T-Rex or Allosaurus. Not to mention smaller Raptors (who could most likely pass through the very entrance Littlefoot and the others used when they first entered the Great Valley).
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Hi!
Here is a map of a small part of the Great Valley which I created for the land before time story I'm working with at the moment. Unfortunately the quality suffered a bit from transforming the original bitmap into a jpeg. The map shows the south-eastern corner of the Great Valley. There are only two landmarks to be found in this map, which you will know from the movies. The gap in the Great Wall you can see on the upper right is the one through which Ali's herd entered the Valley in LBT 4, and right above it you can see "Lookout ledge", the ledge from where Littlefoot first spotted the herd.
On second thought, you also know that rocky wall that stretches into the Valley north of the ledge, but you know it only from its northern side (actually it should consist of a number of several rounded rocks, and it ought to be longer to match the view we got of it in the original movie). Because of the many landmarks we saw in the Great Valley during the sequel, but which we didn't see when Littlefoot was gazing over the Great Valley in the original movie, I assume that what Littlefoot saw in the original movie was only a fraction of the Valley which was surrounded by rocky walls (with very large gaps between them), so almost like a Valley inside the Valley. I drew a map depicting that theory as well, but I can't find it at the moment. It is the map I mentioned before, the one I never finished.
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WOWZERS!!! Nice pic Malte279. BTW, the previous map wasn't so bad, but it's not so detailed.
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Yet it is of no real use to LBT fans in general, refering only to one particular fanfiction. I once drew a map of the Great Valley trying to put in everything that had been shown in the movies so far. I had come up with some solutions for "problems" (e.g. how could the egg in LBT 2 role home while on the way to the eggeaters cave a deep canyon had to be crossed, and how come there are sharpteeth in the part of the Valley where Saurus Rock is (which seemed to be neither inside, nor outside the Great Valley)). If I find that map I'll post it here; if I don't, I might make another one some day.
Credit for the first map I posted here is NOT mine. Another fan made it and send it to me a long time ago.