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The Land Before Time => LBT Fanart => Topic started by: Ptyra on January 01, 2008, 04:28:47 PM
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On my artpage for an Animals of Farthing Wood message board, I have 21 pages...I highly doubt I'll get that far, but if I dig out some of my LBT stuff...
Anyway, here's two
A pic of my char, Ptyra, which I drew ages ago last year :lol
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Pyra.jpg)
And my so-much-better avatar
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Pyraav.jpg)
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Hello:
It is perhaps much better than anything I could do for LBT pics, but I hope you'll get to post more of your pics in here, specially about your characters as you just did :yes .
Keep it up!
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Hope you draw more and share here. Nice picture.
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Nice work! :yes
When some time ago you asked for someone to draw a picture of Ptyra I gave it a try but failed miserably. For some reason my drawings never looked like anything but an older Petrie or younger Pterano. There was nothing feminine about the characters and I was wondering how to draw dinosaurs and give them a female look (I think I started a thread about it back then).
In case of your drawing it is easy to recognize the flyer as female. I see you gave her a short beak, eyelashes, and a smaller crest. Are there any other elements you had to attend to when giving Ptyra a feminine look?
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I always end up with small beaks :lol
'Course, the first femine things any one thinks of is eyelashes (but then again, Littlefoot has them XD), but then the crest is an important detail for female fliers. I would also suggest she'd be kind of...thin...sleeker and smaller bodied than a male, and then lighter colors. Dark colors would be considered more masculine, and lighter femine.
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I like female dinosaurs. ^_^
It's a nice picture indeed. Hope you post more art. ;)
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Hello:
I agree, I hope you can post more, and thanks for the tips about female dinosaurs, they are sure things to be considered, really :^.^: .
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I actually did do another pic of Ptyra!
Here we see her as a hatchling running off with a fish (some prehistoric sardine :blink: ? )
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Fish.jpg)
Complete with the wise words of daddy :lol
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Good drawing, and very cute looking too. :yes
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Aww, how cute. ^_^ It's really good. :yes
What are you using to draw these? Just being curios.
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Also do you draw on paper and scan it in, or use a tablet and draw into some sort of program? Any touch ups you do once its on your pc?
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I did the avatar on MS paint, Ptyra-with-fish on photoshop, and the first Ptyra pic on MS paint and paper. I'd show you some of my AoFW fanart, but I've drawn so much of Adder/Sinuous, it would turn into another AoFW art thread :DD
'Kay, just have a look-see at this...it has my AoFW arts! I want to stick to doing watercolor backgrounds, which is what I like to do. (http://z7.invisionfree.com/farthingwood/index.php?showtopic=3428)
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The snakes look neat, though I like snakes, among certain other beings, dragons, dinos, orcas, lizards.
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This is MUCH easier to post on than my AoFW artpage! Then again, many snakies :rolleyes: . But I think there's too many foxes...disgustingly too many <_<
Anyhoo, here's a sneak peek of my fanfiction. Not much of a spoiler, since I said that Pterano meets a group of fliers, whose leader has been widowed recently. (Hinthint ;-) )
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Pardonmemadam.jpg)
I don't know how they're going to end up being cross with each other here, but I can hear Pterano saying "Excuse me, madam :angry: !?"
:lol
I really don't like drawing things of two of the same critter...one ends up bigger than the other...thus I put the female a distance in front of Pterano and used different colors for the rock, showing that one is higher up than the other.
I haven't given the female a name yet, but I was thinking of something like Ptera (said like "Terra" or the Celtic form "Tera"). She has brown colors because I absolutely LOVE earth tones! (Time to get rid of those scary flowers and pinky girly-girl colors in my room :% ! Time for browns!) I've even replaced my old blanket with an alpaca fur blanket :wow ! (shaved off of course, I don't like anything off something dead). So, there's my character who has earthy colors (OMG! Ptera works perfect! Terra/Tera means 'earth'!)
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How nice. :D
The look on Pteranos face is just like... how Pterano would look. xD
I wonder what the female flyer says. :unsure:
I see you're working with MS Paint. Maybe this could help you a bit (don't know if you use a tablet though):
MS Paint Tutorial (http://jupeboxgal.deviantart.com/art/MS-Paint-tutorial-D-19428735)
That's how I do my works. ;)
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I like the way they look. Do you like doing scenes from your fanfiction in drawings or is it just those ideas come up first. I also agree about the snakes on AoFW, far to many foxes too, and I"ve only seen a few episodes.
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Hello:
Yep, I knew it was Pterano when I looked at his face :D . And to draw scenes from your stories can help you and even the readers to have a better glimpse about the characters and some situation, which is awesome I think. :yes
@Sky: Cool! thanks for the tutorial :)
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@ Sky: I also have to say thanks, until I get Photoshop up and running MS paint is all I got...thank you very much!
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@ Sky
I usually use MS paint to go over the penciled characters. I don't have many of that kind left to do, pretty soon it's going to be MS paint on its on.
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Hello:
I have Photoshop, but the most thing I do for it is to edit some textures for starships by, for example, adding a special layer for illuminations (like windows, thrusters) for the game Star Trek: Armada2.
I think I really need to learn to work with that program :D , but no doubts Paint can also do some great stuff, after all I saw a video on youtube of someone who made a great LBT pic.
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There are very interesting postures in both of your works. I love that air of triumph about the hatchling carrying of the fish. The flyer Pterano is talking to (or rather who is talking to Pterano) has the air of a leader with one arm behind the back and a claw of the other hand pointing at Pterano. It might be interesting to see her when she does not point at anyone. Would she fold her arms behind her back? It is a posture often associated with high self-confidence (and it is frequently displayed by some members of royal families), but I wonder if a flyer would even be able to fold the arms / wings behind the back.
The facial expressions too are very well done. I can really feel Pterano getting mad at the way she is looking at him in such a rather unimpressed manner :lol
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Very interesting points, I've' not thought of those.
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Well, after a very long hiatus, I managed to do some Ptyra stuff...with my wacom from last Christmas, so now it's not all sloppy!
I'll use one of these for Ptyra's page on the Wiki.
I've been working on her personality as of late. My latest thing is every-so-often she has a moment of pride and strikes a pose (I was trying to think of bits where Pterano does that) and then she questions herself.
Okay, so it was mostly inspired from this scene in Dumbo
Timothy: DUMBO THE GREAT *fanfare* The great what?
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Greatwhat.png)
And of course, she's searched for the GV for AAGES and she calls herself a vagabond for that.
Faiil background!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Ehh.png)
Again with the pose-striking and having a "uhh" moment
I have been having some design issues. Since she has traveled gosh-knows how long, I imagine her having raggedness without it being in your face. I think of Fagin or the Theif (from the Their and the Cobbler).
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Foredits.png)
So if anyone has an idea, use this (or if you desire, you can do your own picture of her)
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I'm loving these drawings Ptyra. ^^
Your drawing skills has definitely changed for the better. :D
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Thanks. I'm also heavily considering how to do my fanfiction.
I think I'd have each chapter beginning with Ptyra starting a story, then going onto her adventure. I'm even considering her coming in NOT horribly wounded. She comes to the valley with a baby domehead (or whatever they call a pachycephalosaurus). Kinda like with Chomper except that Ptyra fully "adopted" him. I suspect Pterano would get a little fussy about that :lol .
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More stuff...well, one stuff.
Where Pterano has "Very Important Creature", Ptyra has "Defying Gravity"...in my fanfiction. I guess if she were an actual character, her song would be a mix between the two.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Defyinggravity.png)
I wanted to practice flying pictures too.
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Lovely work Ptyra :yes
She is looking really good.
I only have one suggestion that may or may not look interesting but in any case would be an interesting experiment. In the final picture that shows Ptyra with a cloud background the cloud pattern is both in the background and before Ptyra. It looks quite interesting (like she was flying in a haze), but I think it would also look interesting to see a version in which the cloud background is applied to the background only by selecting the background while leaving Ptyra unselected while applying the cloud pattern.
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Very good artwork Ptyra. I hope you continue to do it and share with us here.
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nice background!
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I've got some more. It's the same picture, but different versions.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Illbeleader3.png)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Illbeleader2.png)
These have lighting
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Illbeleader.png)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Illbeleader4.png)
It's a little Pterano (gosh, I can imagine what that must sound like :lol !) just starting to get a hold on his delusions of grandeur. And the others are his sister, future father of Petrie, future father of Petrie's sister, future father of Petire's sister's future hushand, and Ada! Four out of the five there think he's completely nuts, only one isn't expressing it in such a crude way. And Ada's not to happy with them.
I fail at beach cliffs. I really do >_< .
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Oh my gosh they're adorable! :)
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They all look cute.
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Please, sir, may I have some more? MOORE?!
Teenage Pterano and Ada
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001.jpg)
Lol, it's a random song and dance sequence XD
And when they met
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Meeting.png)
Specifically in the "One Generation Earlier" RP
With cloud!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Meeting2.png)
All for now, folks!
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That's some very nice colors you have going there.
Love the sketch, too. I like sketches :D
Do you use a drawing tablet, or is all your stuff sketched by hand?
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Usually, I just do straight out tablet, but with LBT, I do sketches, THEN I scan it and go over with tablet :) .
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And now the random song sequence is done!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Dance.png)
But they don't look as young as earlier :blink: . I tried to do the color-change-at-night thing, but it didn't work as well as I hoped.
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I have more!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/WHAT-1.png)
A little idea for a fanfiction XD .
So, naturally, five cold times pass since Stone of Cold Fire. In that time, you'd think Petrie would have grown significantly. Soo, Uncle Pterano has come back, hurray! And he goes from uncle to "Man-To-Man-Talk-Consultant".
Petrie's at the point where he's "noticing" girl fliers and he goes to Pterano for advice when there's one in particular he likes.
And something like this:
"Uncle?"
"Yes, Petire?" Pterano glanced up from the huddle of youngsters he was telling a story to. "When you're done, can I ask you something?" (His speech has also developed). "Anything for my dear nephew!" Pterano put his hand on Petrie's shoulder. "Now...where was I?" The youngsters started babbling. "Ah, yes, that's it! And so I went onward through the Mysterious Beyond...."
*later*
The parents of the children came and thanked Pterano for watching them before leaving. Now alone, Petrie looked at his uncle. "Uncle Pterano, can I ask you my question somewhere else?" He asked. "Of course, where would you like?" Pterano replied. "By the river, maybe." Petrie said. The two took off and landed by the bank.
"Now, nephew, what do you need to know from old Uncle Pterano?"
Petrie took a deep breath and held Pterano's wing. "Can you tell me about girl fliers?" He asked. Pterano's beak dropped slightly. "What?!" He asked. Petrie looked up. "You surprised?" He asked. "It's...not what I expected...um...but you are at that age..." Pterano put his hand on his head. "Oh dear, I was not counting on this." He flustered.
"What is it about lady fliers that you want to know?" He asked. "How do I get them to like me?" Petrie asked. "Ah-h, so it's the courting you're interested in!" Pterano let out a sigh of relief. "Thank the Bright Circle!" He said.
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And I'll leave you at that! Many lulz ensue. At the end, I think I'll have Cera spill some of the beans to Petrie and then Petrie comes to Pterano asking if it's true. I want Pterano to have some funny reaction, but I can't think of one. Some of this was partially inspired by the bit in Great Valley Adventure when Littlefoot was asking his grandparents about babies.
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Hm. fourth in a row without a reply. Hello?
I got a new photoshop for Christmas. Elements 8. And BOY is it better than Elements 6.
It's got perspective and other nice stuff.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Onawalk.png)
Which I experimented with on this. I also changed Ada's crest shape...much better than before.
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Sorry, looks like I've been putting off commenting for too long. :oops I have to say that you're really good at making your characters expressive, especially in the eyes. :yes (Pterano in the image with Petrie, :lol the teenaged Pterano and Ada, and the picture of the flyers as kids are all excellent examples.) I was wondering, however: is there any reason you draw all your flyers with such short beaks?
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I really have no idea. I try to do long beaks sometimes, but they come out a little strange. I guess I need to work on making the head a little smaller and narrower before I work on the beak.
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I actually think the short beak looks pretty good on Ptyra herself. (In fact, when I first saw your pictures of Ptyra, I thought you had deliberately drawn her that way to differentiate her from other flyer characters. :lol)
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I usually do small beaks to show femininity and/or youthfulness. But I am practicing with my long beaks...which I hope I did better with here.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/VeryImportant.png)
Someone's giving himself an ego boost :DD
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Nice job there, I like the pose :)
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Pterano looks sort of...maniacal in that picture. :lol Rehearsing "Very Important Creature", is he? :p Like Mumbling said, the pose looks good.
I usually do small beaks to show femininity and/or youthfulness.
The trouble I see with that is, in LBT, both young and adult female flyers of Petrie's species have long beaks. However, if Pterano is anything to go by, then adult male flyers have comparatively straighter and more pointed beaks.
But I am practicing with my long beaks...which I hope I did better with here.
The beak's still pretty short, and I think that the lower jaw ought to be nearly equal in length to the upper, but compared with your previous drawings, it's definitely closer to how Pterano's beak is shaped, so I'd say you're making progress. :yes
I don't want to be a pain with my nitpicking, but I noticed one other thing: there's an open space in the crook of Pterano's left elbow that should be blocked by his wing membrane. Is it too late to fix that?
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I don't want to be a pain with my nitpicking, but I noticed one other thing: there's an open space in the crook of Pterano's left elbow that should be blocked by his wing membrane. Is it too late to fix that?
Oh jeez, I didn't notice that D: ! Yeah, it's too late to fix it. Hopefully I'll remember that in the future.
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I really like the picture a lot :yes
I took it upon me to make that little correction which Pangaea suggested. Please don't misunderstand this Ptyra, I just meant to take a look at what it would look like.
(http://i547.photobucket.com/albums/hh475/Malte279/VeryImportantcopy.jpg)
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It's okay. Looks a bit better, though. I should be able to remember that bit now.
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So my next two are the same picture, but each version can provide different ideas of what's going on.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Contemplation1.png)
* The first idea goes along with part of my Ptyra fanfictions. I wondered how Pterano would handle losing someone he loves (we've seen how he reacted to the deaths of his part of the herd).
* The second idea is a bit funnier, with him grumbling about having to watch some egg (perhaps Ptyra, perhaps some other baby). "I'm a leader, not an egg-watcher? What good will be done with ME watching! This is so degrading."
And then this one doesn't have a nest
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Contemplation2.png)
And I don't quite have a full idea of what's happening here. Maybe some plot of vengeance or...taking over the herd (no surprise there)
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To me he looks more scheming or fidgety than mournful, so I think the second interpretation works better. And though I like the egg-watching scenario best, :lol I think his expression most befits the option provided by the second picture.
I see a major improvement in the beak, the lines of which look much smoother than in your last drawing, and the dimensions even closer to Pterano’s. And the relative lengths of the upper and lower jaws look just right. If I would make any suggestions, it’s that the base of his beak (behind his nostrils) should be slightly more raised, and the tip, while appropriately pointed, needn’t be so hooked.
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I guess one of the reasons for the fidgety look is because I was listening to part of my Dracul soundtrack, when Dracul is having frustrations with his wife-in-life's death (500 years prior...making him THE Vlad Dracula). Part of the first line is what inspired some of it.
This blind rage consumes me
I am too numb to breathe
My heart beats in anger
I have no strength to grieve
(Awesome bit)
But drawing it also sparked some other ideas.
And now for a little solo drawing-practice of Ada
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Ada.png)
I had to use a freeze frame of Petrie's mom some of the time. It was quite helpful. I think I'm happiest with the rock in this picture.
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These are all pretty monumental works Ptyra! I'm not a good art critique man (since I'm personally quite terrible at drawing) but the things Pangaea is saying about them seem to make sense.
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Thanks a lot!
And now for a scene from my one-shot fanfiction! This one includs Ducky!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Underwing.png)
Eeeeee X3 ! I have a scene where they all stop to rest in a cave and Ducky and Petrie go to sleep under Pterano's wing. At one point, I tried to include Cera, Tricia, and Spike in the back, but I couldn't quite fit them in.
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Very sweet. ^^
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Aww, now that's a really sweet picture. =D
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I'm glad you guys liked it. But...my next one isn't NEARLY as sweet :/ .
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Gone.png)
Yick. Poor Ada. I've said she got killed. IT'S A MAGICAL LIOPLEURODON, CHARLIE! I'm not too pleased with how a lot of it turned out (water splash and all), so I saved a PSE file in case anyone wants to give it some tweaks (note: I did not label my layers)
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I have to agree with you about the splash (I actually didn't notice it at first; I thought it was just ripples :oops). I don't know anything about drawing realistic splashes, but perhaps texturing it differently from the surrounding water, and adding some spray to it, would help?
Also, while Pterano looks pretty good, it kind of looks like he's lying on that rock surface (or is, at least, extremely close to it) rather than flying in front of it. (The fact that his shadow is directly behind him, and slightly bigger than him, is a part of this.) To be honest, I think the picture would look better without the rock behind him.
By the way, your previous picture was adorable. :DD
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Well, Pangaea already said the important stuff. =)
What I would like to add is, that the water shouldn't look so soft when it touches the rock.
Some white color would help the water look more realistic. :lol:
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Thanks for the advice, guys. I did a second run and I think it turned out a little bit better.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Gone2.png)
I removed the rock and completely changed the water.
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Yeah, it looks much better now. =D
Hmm... but I can't figure the red(?) spot though. =/
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'Sposed to be a blood spill. I know, I didn't do to great at it XD
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HUGE improvement with the splash. And the picture looks better without the rock, too. :yes I also like the new shade you gave to the water. (The previous version looked too bright, I thought, especially considering the darkness of the scene.)
Now that the Liopleurodon’s flipper is visible, though, I think it’s too close to Ada’s wing. Also, it occurs to me that when you do a picture of an ocean horizon, it would look most realistic if the line where the ocean meets the sky were completely level.
As for the blood spill, perhaps it would look better if it were “cloudier”, densest the center and more dispersed around the edges.
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I guess I could work on that at a later point, now that I have another picture to put up (but I am flat out LOVING the suggestions and critiques :D !)
This one is...interesting. I tried to tie it into Ptyra's storyline. At some point, she rescues an egg (that turns out to be a Domehead...I don't know how to spell the actual name XD ). Right before it hatches, Ptyra dreams that Ada never was attacked and was there when she hatched, thus a completely different beginning for her).
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Dream.png)
Now that I look at the finished version, I don't like how red the ground is. It looks like one of those "danger scenes". Maybe I should have done gray. I also wanted to play with Ptyra's color scheme, so I made her neck and belly color the same as Ada's. I also changed her crest shape.
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That’s a beautiful picture! :o :wow Ptyra and Ada look fantastic, as do all of the character’s expressions. And I love how you made the image of Pterano and Ava translucent (slightly more so in some areas than others) to show that it’s a dream vision. The night sky also looks gorgeous.
You might be right about gray being a better color for the rock, but on the other hand, I personally think that the version you have now compliments Ptyra’s color scheme. It would probably look good either way. :)
As much as I hate to say it, I don’t think Pterano looks as good as the other characters, (apart from his eyes). The corner of his mouth looks too far back relative to his eye, and the line of his mouth is a little wavy towards the back. There’s also that little blurry lump on his forearm, and the top of his head looks a bit overly domed.
I also have to say that the outline between the egg and Ptyra’s wing looks really strange. Personally, I think it should be removed. Alternatively, you could outline the entire egg, but then the egg in the dream image would have to be outlined too. (Then again, that would make the egg in the dream more visible, which might be a positive.)
By the way, just an observation: I've noticed that you sometimes draw Ptyra with claws, sometimes without, but her hands and feet (as with those of most of the flyers you draw) are always the same color as the limbs they are attached to. In LBT, it seems that flyers that lack visible claws, such as Petrie’s mother, have dark-colored hands and feet. Any particular reason for this?
Oh, and just in case it’s useful, the archetypical domehead (the one most commonly seen in LBT, with the little horns on its snout) is Pachycephalosaurus. However, the pair that appears in the TV episodes “The Cave Of Many Voices” and “The Great Log-Running Game” more closely resemble Stegoceras or Prenocephale.
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Thanks for the observations.
Like I said earlier, I've been trying to play with Ptyra's design. One of my goals was for her to have at least some resemblance to Ada, other than eye color, which is why I took away the claws (since Ada does not have claws) and made her belly and neck colors the same as Ada's.
I went in and did some tweaks
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Dream2.png)
I changed the rock completely and made it look like she wasn't out sleeping in the open, but like where Petrie used to live before Days of Rising Water. I also fixed Ptyra's wing and did some tweaks to Pterano. It looks a bit better now.
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I've got more stuff.
This one features a first design for Ada's father, who I tried to fashion after those three fliers at the very beginning of VII (When Petrie was telling the story of the fliers that ruled the earth).
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Takemewithyou.png)
Lol, pretty much Pterano is begging Ada's father to let him join the flock and come with them to their new Big Water location.
And another first design for Crash, the baby Pachycephalosaurus that Ptyra fosters.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/PtyraCrashcopy.png)
I put the rock there so there wasn't a giant space, so I guess Ptyra just carried him down a mountain or something :lol .
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Wow. :wow The backgrounds to both of those images look great (the grass, in particular, is incredible), and all of the characters have fantastic expressions. :lol
Does Ada’s father have a name yet? My first thought when I saw him was that he looked like the flyer equivalent of Mr. Threehorn. I LOVE the look of annoyance on his face, and the scarred, craggy-looking crest you gave him. Also, maybe it wasn’t intentional, but if you were trying to make him look imposing, the eagle-like beak you gave him works surprisingly well :yes (though I still think your other flyers’ beaks should be less hooked).
The other characters are no less excellent. The way Ada is just standing there looking on as Pterano begs (speaking of which, his pose is perfect) is hilarious. :lol Ptyra looks very maternal in the second picture, and Crash (good name :smile) is quite cute.
As for critiques, I think Pterano’s legs (and perhaps his stomach as well) should be visible in that first picture. Also, as much as I like the design of Ada’s father, I have a number of issues with him. His right leg, I have to say, looks a little sloppy (mainly in the sense that the joints and claws look overly smoothed out or rounded), and the way it is superimposed over his right wing makes it look as if the wing membrane connects to his lower leg. Similarly, the underside of his left wing is visible behind Pterano’s head; given the position of that wing, that should not be possible unless the membrane attached to his ankle.
Some suggestions for the backgrounds: in the first image, I think the line where the grass meets the dirt looks a tad blurry; it ought to be more distinct. And to me, the cracks in the rock in the second picture look too broad in diameter, and not angular enough, such that they resemble a map of rivers. Also, the fact that the cracks don’t appear to extend off-screen, or around to the other side of the rock, causes the rock to appear rather two-dimensional, which I think detracts from the picture. The rock might even look better without the cracks entirely.
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I love those last two pieces of art you did. The characters are very well done! :)
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Here's my latest pictures.
Introducing another OC character, Zeno the Therizinosaurus
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Zeno1.png)
I kinda like how the background came out on this one...somewhat.
And this one will have a few other versions.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Accepting1.png)
One of the reasons being that you can hardly see the sky T_T . But this is supposed to be when Pterano kinda accepts that Ada's dead and knowing that he has more important matters to worry about.
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I hate to say it, but the Therizinosaurus design really needs some work. The tail is too long, the neck too short, the body too slender, and the head far too blunt. The limbs also have that jointless appearance I mentioned was a problem with your drawing of Ada’s dad. Besides that, I would recommend giving Zeno a longer, beakier snout, and perhaps adding little lines behind his claws to indicate that they are attached to fingers (if only short ones).
I agree with you, though, that the background looks good. While the trees look a tad two-dimensional, the fact that the bases of the grass stems are distinct from the ground is an improvement from the background of the image with Ada’s father in it. The other characters look pretty good as well (though they too may be suffering a little from “foreshortened face” :p). I especially like how Ptyra’s expression and posture show that she is worried, fearful, and/or intimidated at the sight of Zeno’s claws. (Who wouldn’t be? :P:)
In the second picture, like Ptyra in the preceding picture, Pterano’s expression and body language perfectly convey the emotion he is experiencing (grief). The lighting in this image (namely, the effect of the night on Pterano’s colors) is also very well done. :yes Though I have to say that the nest looks like it’s clinging to the wall of the cave (in part because of the two-dimensionality of the rock), and Pterano’s fingers look a little strange.
Also, a suggestion on the water: I think it might look more realistic if the texture was more or less consistent across the entire surface (as opposed to being blotchyóunless the water is shallow enough that the topography of the seabed is visible), with irregularities limited mainly to ripples, shadows from clouds, and light sources such as the sun and moon. (I actually thought that the sliver of sky in the distance sort of looked more like a water surface texture than the water itself, because it seemed to have the appearance of waves.)
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Well, it was my first time drawing one, so that might explain some of it. I have another one of the same character from behind, though...I think it's slightly better than that. But now that I look back at it, I see several of your points.
Starting with a younger (and extremely surprised looking) Pterano
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/YoungPterano.png)
I tried to remember the joints, as you pointed out. I keep looking at this and thinking "D'Artanian". Which makes a bit of since since Michael York played our impulsive little musketeer in his younger days. I wasn't intending him to look so young in the original sketch, but then I decided to go with it.
And a crossover!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/PteranoSinuous.png)
I've come to decide that my two favorite animated males are Sinuous from The Animals of Farthing Wood and Pterano. I made a whole rant about it on deviantART :lol
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I like Pterano’s pose in the first picture. The limb joints look fantastic, by the way. :) (His right foot is very well drawn, too.) I did notice that the outline of his left eye crosses over into the territory of his beak, and (while I like his expression,) the lines of his eyebrows intersect in a somewhat unrealistic-looking way.
The second picture automatically made me smile. I love the expressions on both characters, and while a little more artistic attention could be paid to Pterano’s feet, overall he looks pretty good. :yes The tip of his beak ought to be a bit more pointed, but apart from that, I think it’s the best beak you’ve drawn for Pterano so far. (I consider it an improvement that you didn’t give his beak an eagle-like hook this time.) Also, I gotta say, having a snake around his neck is a good look for Pterano. :lol
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And not just any snake, but a snake with a MOUSTACHE!
I have a VERY hard time drawing feet most of the time...especially on Pterano, his his feet are so huge. Reminds me of my boyfriend XD. But I'm getting better!
Here's another one that has four different versions, like the ones with little Pterano. This time is depicting Ptyra's hatching, but using different colors and the shading.
Day colors, no lighting
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Hatch2.png)
Day colors, lighting
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Hatch4.png)
Night colors, no lighting
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Hatch1.png)
Night colors, lighting
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Hatch3.png)
I think this one is my favorite.
I have a nasty habit of covering difficult areas with the wing :lol
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Hello:
The pics are good, I liked you made a Therizinosaurus as an OC :DD .
By the way, will you make a fanfic about the pics you are doing?. I'm sorry if that was already answered, but I've been kinda away.
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Those are some pretty good drawings of Pterano!
I saw him as the heel that I loved to hate. It was nice to have him see the errors of his ways and turn face at the end of the 7th movie.
Too bad he didn't appear in any of the subsequent movies. But seeing as the timeline was to have the Gang of Five still as children, Pterano wouldn't come back to The Great Valley, still purging his five years of banishment in The Mysterious Beyond, it makes sense. (Did they actually say that, or was it five cold times?)
You've got the makings of a good fanfic there!
I had Pterano make a cameo appearance in one of my fanfics, though technically not a Petrie's uncle, but rather as a character Petrie interacts with in an alternate universe. :smile
Keep up the good work! :DD
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I have a VERY hard time drawing feet most of the time...especially on Pterano, his his feet are so huge. Reminds me of my boyfriend XD. But I'm getting better!
As far as I’m concerned, limbs and feet are the hardest part of almost any dinosaur to draw, so that's perfectly understandable.
I don't have any major nitpicks regarding Pterano other the fact that his nostrils seem to be missing. Overall I think he looks great. :) As usual, his expression is good, and I like the look of hatchling Ptyra as well. (Her face reminds me of a baby bird.)
And I agree, the lighting on the last version of the picture turned out really well. Looks just like Pterano at night in LBT VII. :yes
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Hm. I never noticed that slight flaw. Thanks for pointing it out. I'm really glad you liked how they turned out.
I've mentioned wanting to do a comedy LBT fanfic that revolves around an invasion of Mary Sues. So, I did a picture that introduces the character that started the idea
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/LBTSue.png)
"Ptyranna" is actually the VERY first version of Ptyra.
I came up with "Ptyranna" shortly after seeing LBT VII when I was 7/8 years old. Her design was pretty much that, although, I don't remember if her collar was purple or not. But she WAS indeed a time traveler and she was EXTREMELY smart (as an example, she called Cera a Triceratops)...and she had different backgrounds on her connection to Pterano...one of which took the "Junior" route...kinda...*sob* Another was that he adopted her. And the third was pretty much the same as now, but a bit more childish.
I even did crossovers with "Gargoyles", where Ptyranna was best friend's with Brooklyn's (M-preg) daughter S.F...who looked nothing like him but a lion cub with bird wings. And S.F didn't like her at first, but then there were some weird occurrences that made them become friends. Oi.
She finally changed to looking like Pterano when I was 10...but her eye shape was odd. The change to "Ptyra" was in middle school, I think.
For this Ptyranna, I decided to have some other Mary-Sue traits thrown in, like being the last of her family and having only one physical flaw, which would be the chip in her beak. As for the Time Traveling thing, she's also probably a popular singer in the future, like the Ptyra that she spoofs.
It was extremely painful coloring that character D: .
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No comment. I don’t have much to say on this picture. It creeps me out. :blink: I find it interesting, though, that the body of your character is apparently furry, as real pterosaurs are thought to have been.
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Hello:
That is funny indeed, the colors are so shiny! XD . No wonder she is a Mary-Sue :smile .
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Creepy was the direction I was aiming for. I decided to bring the furryness to access, since that might occur in a "Pterosaur Sue". But I see where you're coming from.
An idea that's been stuck in my head for a while.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Morning.png)
While I am VERY proud of this one, I did have some issues with positioning Pterano so he could actually look like he was sleeping with the egg near him. And some of him seems to vanish after Ada's arm. And the egg is pretty hard to see, since it almost blends with Pterano.
But I'm still pretty proud of how it turned out :D
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*double post*
I've decided to do a second version of Ptyra's "Defying Gravity"/boost of hubirs/"Look at me! I'm like my dad!" picture.
First version
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Defyinggravity.png)
Second version
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/DefyingGravity2.png)
Well...I improved a lot in a month :wow .
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I actually like the first one a lot better. :lol
Although you have given me the impetus to go back and revise an older pic of Pterano I have, I'll give you that. I think I see how I can fix a foot problem I have with him.
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I really like both pictures, but there’s definitely a marked improvement in the second one, especially in the head and limbs. Personally, I think that in the first picture, Ptyra’s pose makes her look more like she’s literally “defying gravity”, whereas in the second one she looks like she’s about to mischievously swoop down on someone. :lol
Personally, I don’t really like the color of Ptyra’s neck in the second picture: in my opinion, it’s way too pale compared with her head and body. If I recall correctly, you changed the color of Ptyra’s neck and underside so that her color scheme would share characteristics with Ada’s as well as Pterano’s. However, I think Ptyra would look better with a browner or orangier neck (perhaps you could change her neck ruff to the same color as Ada’s). You could probably leave her underside as is; while in Pterano’s case the neck and belly are the same color, both Petrie and his mother have different colors for each. Also, while I might have mentioned this previously, I think that Ptyra’s hands and feet look strange without claws on them. (Forgive me if I’m being too intrusive; if you're happy with Ptyra's look as it is, you can ignore my suggestions for further experimentation.)
As for the earlier picture of Pterano and Ada, I agree with you about Pterano’s body “disappearing” behind Ada’s arm, and the egg being hard to see. It also looks as though Ada has only two (unusually long) fingers on her right hand, and while I love the lighting at the left of the image indicating the entrance to the cave, the fact that there’s no distinct wall or ceiling causes the characters to appear as if they are “floating” in front of a rocky background. However, I really like Pterano’s sleeping position with the egg, and, as usual, your character expressions are excellent. :DD
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At one point, I did consider making Ptyra's ruff the same color as Ada's, however, it ended up looking really odd and "drab" compared to the rest of her body. I also, now that I've really looked at it, agree on her belly color looking too pale for the rest of her body. I tested the same picture with a color that was somewhere between Pterano's and Ada's.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/DefyingGravity22.png)
I liked your input. SonicBoom actually said she looked like she was about to dive at someone XD . My goal with the most recent picture was to match up with the final part of Wicked's "Defying Gravity".
"And nobody (In all of Oz, no wizard that there is or was) is ever gonna bring me down".
I also like to think of this as a sudden burst of hubris. Stand aside, Odysseus, this girl's got more pride than even YOU can handle =P
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*double post*
This one is a sketch so far, but I love it so much, I'm going to show off the first version!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/FlywithCrash.png)
That's Crash on Ptyra's back. Heh. I like my little note of the waterfall.
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Hello:
That skecth is cute, I like the expression on both characters, I just hope Ptyra will be careful while flying :smile .
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I like both of your drawings. Your chars look cute in the 2 pictures.
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Well, if her dad can fly with a much smaller youngster on her back, I'm sure Ptyra will do just fine.
Now IN COLOR
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/FlywithCrashcolor.png)
I supremely changed the background, since the trees and foliage was a pain to draw...so was the waterfall.
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Crash is cute :smile!
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Wow, how do you do these so fast?! :blink:
Definite improvement with the revised image. At first I thought the new belly color looked a little "peachy" (though still better than the previous version), but it's growing on me.
And the new picture is awesome. :smile (Too bad about the background. I thought the one in the sketch was really good. :yes) I think you did an especially great job on Ptyra’s head and neck, and I like the way she’s looking back out the corner of her eye at Crash. Crash himself is quite nicely done overall, though his tail is overlapping Ptyra’s wing in a way that’s probably impossible, and his hands and feet have a noticeable lack of digits.
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Naww. :o Too bad the colored pic only has a simple background. I really liked the sketch. ^_^
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Yeah, I like the sketch better too.
The lack of digits on Crash escaped me. Thanks for the spot!
And now, for my next one. I checked out a how-to-draw-dragons book from my school library because I figured that a lot of elements of dragons can be applied to drawing dinosaurs/pterosaurs...in my case. My idea proved right. After sketching some limbs according to the book, I gave what I learned a shot.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Clawinspection.png)
I like doing cliffs for some reason O_O . I'm really happy with how Pterano turned out though. I stretched him to be taller than in the original picture, though.
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That's very good.
There is a lot of improvement from your eary pictures.
Keep up the good work.
Can't wait to see more.:)
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Awesome work Ptyra! :D I love how well you can draw flyers :)
I don't want to bug you, but why not submit them into the lbtfanclub gallery on deviantart? You'd get some more views + comments that way :D
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I really, REALLY hate to say this, but in my opinion, compared to your other recent pieces, this isn’t your best work. Namely, the creases on Pterano’s legs, arms, and neck (meant to indicate flexion and/or musculature?) cause those appendages to look as if they are twisted at odd angles. There’s also his beak, which looks more like the shortened, rounded versions you were drawing at the beginning of the month.
I will say that Pterano’s wings, hands and feet look pretty good (though I’m not so sure about those flexion wrinkles on the tops of his fingers), but personally, I don’t think the new style looks so good for him. (I thought your limb joints looked just fine before, and Pterano’s upper arms look really strange to me in this picture.) Again, just my thoughts.
(As an aside, the treeline in the distance seems to blur with the side of the cliff, and is even translucent in some areas.)
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They were just tests of a different style, but I see your points. I've actually been having some trouble with drawing them in the new style as of late anyway, so I think I'll stop using it. I considered showing to others from my test, but I decided not to.
In the meantime, here's a piece from before my new style. It's supposed to be like a "dream piece".
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/AFantasy.png)
I'm somewhat pleased with it, but there are definitely some areas that need work...like making it look a little bit more like a dream/fantasy.
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I’d say the cloudy border around the image definitely gives it a dreamlike quality (I sort of got that feeling when I first looked at it even before I noticed your description). Overall I think the picture is pretty good. :yes Pterano and Ada’s poses and expressions (needless to say) are excellent, and Pterano’s handsóboth the one holding Ada’s and the one around her shoulderólook fantastic.
Maybe it’s just the angle of her head, but Ada’s beak does look a little strange; very deep towards the base and sort of downward-slanted. Also, I think the inside of Pterano’s right wing membrane is miscolored brown when it should be orange, and his toes, I must say (especially on his left foot), look uncharacteristically hoof-like.
I didn’t even notice little Ptyra in that picture at first, but even though she’s small, she’s surprisingly detailed, and quite cute in my opinion. :DD Kind of a haphazard choice of blanket she has, though; Pterano and Ada might have to hold that position (Pterano at least can’t move too much) if they don’t want to deprive her of her covers. :lol
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Originally, I wasn't planning on including that part of the wing membrane in the picture, so it looked like his arm was against his body. But now that I think about it, I don't think he'd really be capable of doing such a thing.
The only issue I have personally with this one is the way that Ada's wings are folded and that I accidentally left the egg hidden DX ! And it looked so great too!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Sunrise.png)
I like my sunrise, though.
And another sketch, of which I don't know when it will be colored. Includes Petrie's father!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002.jpg)
Gosh, I decided on just putting ten eggs in the nest, since gosh knows how many siblings Petrie has in Great Day of the Fliers XD !
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Great pictures. Thanks for sharing them here. I hope you plan on drawing and coloring in the future.
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Ada’s wings look fine to me (though her right hand looks sort of misshapen :blink:), and I think that both her and Pterano’s facesóexpression-wiseóare very well done. However, there seems to be a blank space between Pterano’s claw and Ada’s chin (unless that’s supposed to be one of his claws).
The sunrise colors are nice, but I think the sun itself would look better if you made the whole thing look like it was glowing, rather than just having a corona around it.
The second picture is incredible. :DD Ptyra, in particular, looks fantastic, and I love how you drew Pterano with his hands on her shoulders (judging by the caption, to help her contain her excitement :lol). I’m also awed by how all of the characters have different expressions, yet they all convey emotions appropriate to the atmosphere of the scene.
I will say that Petrie’s mother’s hands look a little too “mittenlike”, and her crest is longer and more crooked than it should be. Ptyra’s left arm also looks kind of jointless, and her feet are rather asymmetrical (though her left foot looks great).
By the way, Petrie had eight siblings in LBT XII. (For the record, he had five in the original movie, and four in the seventh.) Also, my opinion for if and when you color this piece in: just in case you weren’t planning this already, I think it would look great if you used the same sort of color palette for the background (particularly the sky) as that of the wasteland scenes in the first LBT.
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Both pictures are great. =)
I'm not sure why, but some sketches look much better than the finished colored picture.
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Ptyra: I've seen a lot of nice pictures on here. Nice work! :smile
In that second to last one, though, you forgot the green flyer's feet. :p
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Well, I didn't actually forget them, I just tried to make them look "hidden" by Ada's wings.
Here's the colored version
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Cousinshatch.png)
I did try to "parrot" the first movie setting, but I don't think I did too well. I also fixed Ptyra's feet.
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Another nice one. I can't wait to see what kind of storywriting you'll put to these pictures. :smile
I forget who the young flyer being held by Pterano is... :confused
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Her name's Ptyra...a good way to remember it is my username ;) !
Since I got so many lovely comments about my sketches, I thought I'd show some before I colored them.
The morning sketch
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0005.jpg)
The dream/fantasy sequence
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-1.jpg)
Pterano making a better move on Ada than D'Artagnan or Logan 5 :lol
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan00052.jpg)
And an appreciated one at that.
A sketch of young Pterano
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0003.jpg)
*Insert D'Artagnan-to-Constance/Logan-to-Jessica-quote-here*
And Ptyra introducing Crash to Pterano
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan00032.jpg)
She looks so proud of herself :lol
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lol the last one is pretty funny! :D Nice job on those sketches, they look awesome! :)
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Aye, I think such sketches in general also should be posted in the fanart section along with the finished work.
I apologize for having been lazy in this thread. Your pictures are very beautiful :yes
As for constructive criticism there is one thing I noticed about the picture with the flyers assembled around the nest in the cave. The perspective of the background doesn't seem to match that of the flyers. The viewpoint slightly above the flyers with the edge of the cave entrance still at the level of their heads makes it look a bit like they and the nest were on a steep slope. That impression is further strengthened by the pattern of the cracks in the floor matching exactly that of the pattern in the vertical walls. If the pattern of the cracks in the floor was changed so the distance between the horizontally inclined cracks was generally smaller than that of the vertically inclined cracks we would get more of an impression of looking from an angle at the floor (rather than facing it frontally like a wall). Another great effect to improve the interesting background of the cave entrance would be if you included the light and shadow of the entrance making everything a bit darker (not too much as there seems to be dawn's or dusk's twilight outside) except for the parts of the floor on which light from the outside would fall. Another suggesteion of possible improvement would be to make the edge of the entrance not too straight but with a few more dents and bumps to look more like rock. Finally I think you could improve the part of the background that shows the landscape beyond the cave entrance. Same as the floor of the cave it looks like a steep wall (or slope) if the horizon is above the heads of the flyers even though the camera angle is on the level of their heads too (or even slightly above it) and same as with the cave floor a pattern with lesser distance between the horizontally inclined lines compared to the vertically inclined lines would increase the impression of a more level surface looked at in an angle. However, perhaps it would be a good idea to change the pattern of either that part of the background or the cave walls altogether. The reason is that the landscape outside would be much further away than the cave walls. Therefore cracks of the same size as in the cave walls would probably not be as visible anymore for being much further away, unless the cracks in the landscapes were much larger. If they were much larger though (so they could be marked just as broad as the cracks in the cave) they would probably have a stronger influence on the whole structure of the landscape in general.
Again I really like the picture but just see some ways to make it even better :)
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Great pictures and sketches. I hope you'll continue doing them and sharing them here. :goodluck
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Thanks for the advice. I do make the rock about more "rocky", but I seemed to skip it entirely that one time...anyway...
More sketches.
A concept of Pterano and Ptyra finally finding each other after I-don't-know-how-long yet. With a simple background that is bound to change DRAMATICALLY.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0003-1.jpg)
I plan to have an elderly Domehead couple adopt Crash later, and this one is right after it happens
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-1.jpg)
I need to fix their arms on the left side (it is the left, correct?). That's the REALLY hard part about drawing fliers :/
And introducing ROSA! Inspired by Katherine from "Castle Waiting". She's got a bit of a crush on Pterano since he was so nice to her, but as presented here, he gets her to snap out of it.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-2.jpg)
"Rosa," Pterano put his hand on her shoulder. "You must understand." He sighed. "You are much too young." He said. "I'm a crusty old widower that makes stupid decisions and lands me in a bad place. I'm not what you think I am." He said. Rosa grasped her arms. "But..." She began to protest. "Rosa, please. I'm wrong for you." Pterano said firmly. "But you acted like it!" Rosa replied. "You're young, Rosa. You have yet to realize that there's a difference between a man being decent and a man that is courting." Rosa looked to the ground with disappointment. Pterano held her should a bit more tightly. "I will be very happy if you find the old man who loves you." He said reassuringly. "And...I had a daughter that should be old enough to be your little sister. You're old enough to be my own child. It's...very disturbing for me that you've chased me like this." Pterano laughed lightly.
This is still the point when Ptyra has been separated from him and he thinks she's dead. Boy is Rosa an awkward character. She'd be at least twenty-five by human standards, so she's not THAT young...and so it's a little less strange that she wants an older guy...which isn't uncommon. I can understand SOME of those that do, but I'd personally like to stay in my own age group
Oh jeez, it's D'Artagnan all over again :lol .
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I LOVE this last one Ptyra! It's sad that stuff like that happens quite a bit. Women seem to love the older, mature guys and guys seem to like the younger, prettier women. :p I'm not trying to stereotype the genders, but that seems to happen a lot.
And I like how Pterano called himself a "crusty, old widower". :lol That seems a bit unlike him to call himself that, but hey I guess if something like THAT happened, he might say that. Maybe...
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Nice drawings indeed. :yes
Simple background maybe, but ti does look like those could be some cliffs behind them with a plateau every now and then, or a mountain even.
As for younger women liking older men it could be that older men are more experienced and likely must have some good genes to be able to live that long, both which would benefit children and the woman herself to an extent, as well as other reasons also.
Some men liking younger women could be due to they are more fertile and able to have more children then older women. Just putting it down to the possible lowest most base biological reasons.
There may be other reasons also. Some older men may be nicer then younger ones, and other reasons also.
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My friend, you're either a big Pterano fan, or a Michael York fan. I'm thinking the latter, because you've made reference to some of his characters in your most recent posts. :p
I've done some research on him. Who knew he had such a huge track record!? I found out he's also appeared in the Austin Powers movies. I've seen a couple of them, but I don't remember who his character was.
Logan's Run was another movie I saw when I was a kid, but it surprised me to note that he was the hero Logan in that movie. I always thought that the actor who played his best friend, and would later try to hunt him down and kill him when his hand crystal turned red, was Harrison Ford; but I could be wrong.
D'Artagnan, though, is totally unfamiliar to me. Was he a pirate?
The only reference I remember to that character was from the original Star Trek episode "Naked Time", where Sulu invades the Bridge with a fencing sword and Mr. Spock utters the phrase "Take D'Artagnan here to sick bay!" after he knocks him out with his famous Vulcan neck pinch. :p
But Pterano seems to be one of his most memorable characters, while I always thought it was John the Baptist, simply because he was such an important biblical figure.
A little piece of advice for your upcoming fanfics, though: Try to avoid using "man" and "woman" to describe the sexes. Those are strictly human terms. The correct terms for LBT should be "male" and "female", though children are still referred to as "boys" and "girls". :smile
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D'Artagnan was in the Three Musketeers movies. Gawwwd he was SO cute 8D ! I'm actually both a Pterano fan and a Michael York fan. I ordered his autobiography last Sunday and it just came in today. His childhood is quite funny XD .
In Austin Powers, he was Basil Exposition...the guy who always has a flower in his lapel.
I also watched Logan's Run recently, another purchase I made with his autobiography. I was HIGHLY amused that they shot a scene in the Fort Worth Water Gardens
:wow . I was like "OMG! I went there!" And I live close to it too :D ! Also, the friend who chases Logan is played by Richard Jordan ;) .
The comment that Spock makes is a reference to the Three Musketeers. And there is a LOT of swordplay in the movies.
I'm pretty sure D'Artagnan was the role Michael York is most famous for. Let me tell you, he was AWESOME in those movies...and he was adorable. This is coming from a girl, so...:lol .
I'll have the picture with Rosa finished soon. And I will DESPERATELY need some re-coloring tips D: !
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Holy buckets! :blink: looks like I waited a day or two too long to post in this thread. I’ve got a lot of catching up to do.
Besides seconding Malte’s suggestions on the background for the first image, I would have made the sky hazier, and kept the sun and the dead trees from the sketch in the finished picture. The characters, however, turned out great! :D I love their coloring, and the nest looks pretty good as well.
You should definitely post sketches of your pictures more often. :yes (I’m not going to leave feedback on the ones for which you’ve already posted completed versions. :p)
Pterano making a better move on Ada than D'Artagnan or Logan 5 :lol
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan00052.jpg)
And an appreciated one at that.
Hmm...Looks like you're experimenting with a different beak style. Looks good on Ada. :yes On Pterano, though...well, it’s kind of hard to recognize him, actually. :oops
Is Pterano supposed to be kneeling? His left leg (especially the knee) looks sort of funny. Also, Ada’s right shin, and the part of her foot that is lifted off the ground, both look very slender compared with her left shin and foot.
Legs aside, both characters are excellently drawn. :yes
And Ptyra introducing Crash to Pterano
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan00032.jpg)
She looks so proud of herself :lol
Awesome (and hilarious :lol) piece! Crash looks very cute, and all of the characters' expressions are fantastic! Though Pterano’s lower jaw ought to be more equal in length with his upper, and he’s missing his nostrils again. :p Both flyers' legs also look overly bent, and for both of them, the leg on the side that is further away from the viewer's perspective (left for Ptyra, right for Pterano) appears longer than the opposite leg. Ptyra's left wing membrane also seems to disappear behind her leg.
A concept of Pterano and Ptyra finally finding each other after I-don't-know-how-long yet. With a simple background that is bound to change DRAMATICALLY.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0003-1.jpg)
Pterano's crest looks unusually long in this one. Ptyra's pupils also look to be positioned a bit too high, so her line of sight seems to be aimed slightly over Pterano's head rather than directly at his face. And again, unfortunately, there are problems with both flyers' legs. Pterano's right leg looks too long and sharply bent compared to his left, and while the outermost toe on his left foot is accurately pointed, the others are still hooflike. As for Ptyra, I noticed that her left knee overlaps her left wing membrane, yet her hand is in front of that knee.
Overall, however, Ptyra's body and arms are very well drawn, as is Pterano's hand and entire face (including beak).
I plan to have an elderly Domehead couple adopt Crash later, and this one is right after it happens
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-1.jpg)
I need to fix their arms on the left side (it is the left, correct?). That's the REALLY hard part about drawing fliers :/
Aww...I love this picture! :wub / :cry I’ve got extremely stingy tear ducts, but I swear I felt my eyes getting moist looking at this one. Both characters are incredibly well drawn, to boot. Oddly enough, I don't notice anything wrong with their arms. :confused Their toes, admittedly, could stand to be more pointed. Also, when you color this image, I think you should have Ptyra be a slightly different shade from Pterano, so that they’re more distinct from one another.
I can come up with surprisingly little to say about the last sketch, but both characters look very good. :) (I'm also curious to see how you're going to color Rosa.) One thing I would suggest changing is their toes, especially Pterano’s; they look way too rounded.
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Thanks for the tips. I'll be sure to look into them when I color them.
I decided to work on the Rosa one first. But before I FINISH it, I would like your opinions on the first choice of color I picked for her.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Rosacolors1.png)
My hope is to make her a little rosy colored, but not PINK (like Tria). Should I make her a little bit more red, or would you suggest something else?
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Well despite her name, she can be any color you'd like her to be. But if you're looking to add a different shade, I would suggest a very light yellow, or red, but nothing too saturated. Just a suggestion.
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She's not the same color as Tria. Tria is very pink (as seen in a screen shot I took: http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/K...rrent=Tria.jpg) (http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv325/Kulstor/LBT/Characters/?action=view¤t=Tria.jpg)) If you want a rose color, there are many colors of rose. What do you like and dislike about your char's current color. That is a spot to start from. I Don't recall but if female dinos in lbt are brigher then males then maybe she may need a bit more red or some other bright color like that mixed into her color. Though I'm no color nor painting expert.
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I like the color scheme. :yes Though I do have to say that it looks a little drab. Maybe experimenting with more red wouldn’t be such a bad idea.
By the way, you might want to slightly thicken the outline on that claw Pterano has on Rosa’s shoulder. It looks nice, but the black lines surrounding it are so thin that the white portion “sticks out” in a weird way. Also, if it’s not too late to make Pterano’s toes a little more pointed...
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Well, here's two different finished versions
Original
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Notforyou.png)
Then Rosa with darker red shads.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Notforyou2.png)
Which do you think is better?
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Hmm... hard choice.
I would choose the darker one, I think it fits her more. But it's your decision in the end. :yes
By the way, I like the picture. ^_^
Say, is there a reason why you don't give them shadings? Something I just noticed.
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Ooh...tough one... :blink:
At first I thought my opinion had changed and I liked the original color scheme better, but now I’m kind of undecided. :unsure: I do think her beak looks a little too dark in the second image. If it were the same color as in the first image, I might like the second version marginally more than the first.
I have some more definitive opinions regarding the background in these images. I have to say that the cliffs in the distance look really strange (almost like a close-up view of a clump of brownish grass), but the rocks Pterano and Ava are sitting on look much better than your usual rocky backgrounds. :yes I think the more subdued outlines have a lot to do with it.
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If I draw Rosa again, I think I'll consider your suggestion.
Here's the one of Ptyra and Pteano. I did a color test to try to get them closer to "actual color"...at least in Pterano's case XD
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Therethere.png)
Coincidentally, I think they look like Michael York and Susie Amy (who played D'Artagnan's daughter Valentine)
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Beautiful! :wow The colors are fantastic! :yes
The background’s a little blurry, though, and it looks strange that there’s no texture to the (presumably grassy) ground.
If I were to suggest any changes to the characters themselves, it would be some editing and smoothing out of parts of the outlines, such as on Ptyra’s wing, and where a line from Pterano’s ruff crosses onto Ptyra’s arm. (Pterano’s face is literally flawless, though, as far as I can see. Nothing you'd need to change there.)
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Wow! You're becoming quite the "artiste", my dear! :smile
Just a comment, though: I find the red eyelids on Pterano make him look like he hasn't slept in days... like he's tired, or something... But I'm sure you have your reasons for colouring them that way...
But these images make me look forward to reading your fanfics even more! :DD
I'm also offering an idea: While I was looking at your new images, I was listening to the Abba song "Chiquitita". It's one of their more popular hits, and it's a ballad about heartache and pain. My mother was a big Abba fan, so I grew up listening to their music. :smile There are clips of the song on Youtube you could listen to to get a feel for what it is.
Having said that, this'd make a pretty good song Pterano could sing to Ptyra as a way to help her feel better. I'm guessing the image of Pterano consoling a sobbing Ptyra was after she just gave up her adoptive child over to a domehead family. You could maybe include that song in one of your fanfics. I'd change the word "chiquitita"(which is Spanish for "little girl", if I'm not mistaken) to something else, though.
Since LBT has traditionally included songs in the movies and TV episodes, it'd be a nice way to carry on that tradition. I know I always include at least a couple of songs like this in my fanfics. :smile
Ciao dearie! :DD
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Hello:
I like the pic, I think it is a very touching one.
I am looking forward to see more pics from you. Keep it up!
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Very good and very touching drawing. Hope you continue to draw. You're a good artist. :yes
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A very good picture indeed. :yes
Say, what do you do to make your lineart? Maybe there is a way to improve it, making it look smoother. ;)
Can't wait to see your next works! :lol:
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I'm glad you liked it.
@ Karkovice: I actually took your advice for the "Comfort song", but I decided to go with some form of "Remembering". Maybe I can lead that into a different version of "Always there"
@Sky: With my LBT pictures, I draw on paper first, and sometimes I got over with pen or fine point sharpie. When I work on it on Photoshop, sometimes I use a bigger brush point so I can see it better.
I should have posted this yesterday, but it was really late when I got to the finishing point.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Beak.png)
I actually wasn't intending this to be a Valentine's Pic, but as an attempt to look into Ada's personality a bit more. In the original sketch, Pterano looked extremely shocked and could possibly have been saying "Why is your hand on my beak?"
I guess this kinda puts Ada into the flirtatious category.
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Okay... I was also gonna suggest a variation of "Bad Attitude" by Honeymoon Suite as kind of a description song somebody else could use to describe Pterano; but if you wanna include some of the more traditional LBT songs in your fanfics, that's entirely up to you. :smile
I just hope you'll put down some kind of link to your stories once they're done. I'm very much looking forward to reading them. :smile
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This picture made me laugh when I saw it. :lol
It is also, in my opinion, one of the best images you’ve done so far. Mostly because the flyers are so well drawn. Pterano looks nearly identical in his proportions and physical details to his canon self in LBT VII. (You deserve particular commend for drawing his beak so accurately. :yes) His head and left hand particularly stand out to me as being outstandingly drawn.
Ada looks good as well. Like Pterano, her entire head looks fantastic, and while her left upper arm looks a little long, the forearm and hand of that arm are very well done. Also, if "flirty" was the look you were going for with her, I’d say you succeeded. :lol (The look on Pterano's face, by the way, is hilarious.)
I’m a little disappointed that the rocks prevent us from seeing Ada and Pterano’s feet (or was that intentional, because I nitpick you about your characters’ feet so much? :P:) but they look excellent. You should definitely stick with this new style of drawing rocky backgrounds. Also, while the horizon looks to be a bit wavy (that is, not perfectly horizontal; nothing to do with the fact that it’s the ocean :p), I really like how it sort of blends with the sky, rather than sharply contrasting with it. I like the way you colored the sky as well. Both the sea and sky seem to have a more natural feel to them in this image.
The main critique I have for the characters is that on certain parts of them, the outlines are excessively thick, most noticeably on the inside of Ada’s lower left leg, and Pterano’s left arm and wing membrane. As for the background, the sun in the distance looks a little off-center relative to the light effect (unless you didn’t intend it to be centered :unsure:).
EDIT: I could just imagine this picture on an LBT-themed Valentine's Day card. :lol
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Yes, it looks very good (though I wish the rocks wouldn't cover their feet :yes) and you're one of a fast artist too. :blink:
Well, I guess Pangaea said most of the part about the lineart. So you're working with Photoshop? Ever tried the Pen-Tool out? It could make your lineart much smoother and the lines wouldn't have different thicknesses. :)
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Yes, I do use the pen-tool. All the time. I just use a higher brush size because I have a deep need to see the lines clearly.
But for some reason, after I finished this picture. I guess it'll be better later, but I ended up saving it as it is here.
Cute hatching picture number THREE XD
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Babysister.png)
I think that Pterano is older than Petrie's mom, like he had been from a different brood. I had a caption on the original sketch: "Hi, baby sister"
And the tips of their beaks were touching, not like Pterano's beak appearing under his sister's.
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Lovely picture! :yes
Never thought of Pterano being older than her. Though, he looks like a young teen to me in this picture. When Petrie's mom grows to an adult, Pterano would be much older than usually.
Ah, it's just my point of view. It's still a lovely picture of them. :wub
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I always thought of Pterano being the same age as Petrie's mother (with an age disparity of a few minutes at best :p). I have to agree with Sky that he looks much older than Petrie here.
I always feel bad about saying things like this, but I don't find Petrie's mom (do you have a name for her in your fanfic?) to be particularly cute here. In fact, I have to say that she doesn't look much like a flyer at all. In addition to her beak being very blunt at the tip, the line of her mouth is so far down that her the top half of her beak looks much deeper than the lower half. The leaves and eggshell also hide whatever expression she might have, and the fact that her eye is at the very front of her face gives her an almost cyclopean appearance.
While again I have to complain about Pterano's claws (both on his hands and his feet) looking too rounded, I will say that his head, neck, and facial expression are all very well drawn, and I'm really impressed by the leafy nest as well. :yes
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Good artwork. I hope you continue to draw. It is fun to see the drawings you do.
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I considered some of your suggestions. One of the things I did was re-do Petrie's mom completely from scratch. I also shrunk down Pterano a bit to make him look a bit smaller.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/BabySister2.png)
I hope this is better. The egg's not quite as good as it should be, but I guess it'll have to do.
I think that the age difference between her and Pterano is somewhat vast. I didn't really think I wanted him to look like a young teen, but I certainly wanted him to be older than Petrie.
And now for one with a proper background
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Landing.png)
With first flights come first landings, and this one didn't quite make the cut.
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Okay, first picture: HUGE improvement from the original. :yes Petrie’s mom looks very cute now. :DD Also, maybe it’s my imagination, but her eyes look sort of like she’s squinting a little, as one would expect from an animal that had just hatched. It looks great. :)
Ptyra’s position and expression in the second picture made me laugh. :lol Pterano’s head looks pretty good, too, apart from his pupils being maybe a bit large and his beak not pointed enough. I can’t quite put my finger on it, though, but he looks kind of strange in this image. Maybe it’s his legs and feet (oh, those darned limbs! :rolleyes). The joints are a bit rounded, and they (particularly his left leg) look a little misshapen. :unsure:
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Noooo the feeeeet D8 !!!
And now for an after-banishment picture! It's an "I was so stupid!" moment :nyah:
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Stone.png)
I had issues with the stone in this picture, but I feel pleased with how it turned out...even though Pterano's not looking directly at the Stone of Cold Fire/SS Enterprise, which is pretty annoying. And the rock in the back is downright lousy.
And Ada's daddy makes a come-back in a sketch!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-3.jpg)
Hmmm...reason for being leader #1?
Geez, Ada's dad went from buff guy to scary old man (which seems like a good transition to me XD)
And now the colored version! I'm a little so-so with this one. I like it, but Pterano doesn't look as "dumbfounded" as I hoped. It looks more like there's a bright light in his eyes. And it's hard to see the chip in Ada's father's beak. Geez, he needs a name
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Myheir.png)
I decided to keep Ada's father's beak 'hooked' to add to the intimidating look.
And gosh darn it, I forgot the scar on his face D8 !!!
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Pterano looks pretty good in the first image. His fingers, perhaps, are somewhat oversized, and I think his eye ought to be a little lower down. (There should just be a little sliver of brown between the lower part of his eye and the horizontal part of his beak.) Other than that, it’s a really good profile view of him. I particularly like the look of his head, neck, and wing.
The moon, I have to say, looks a little funny (too much color contrast, perhaps). I think the image would look just as good, if not better, with just the Stone of Cold Fire in the sky.
Personally, I like the rocks, though they might look better with a blue-gray tone, given the nighttime setting of the image. (Pterano is brownish under normal light, but at night he appears blue, as he does here. I think it should be similar with the brown rock.)
Colored picture of Pterano and Ada's father:
Wow, even without the scar, Ada’s dad is one scary-looking flyer! :blink: In fact, I don’t know if he even needs the scar; his eyes are frightening enough. :o (And I like that you kept the hooked beak. :yes) He’s also very well-drawn overall, though his right leg and wing seem to be missing. Also, in my humble opinion, you should change the little tear in his wing to be more of a vertical notch in future renditions of him. (Right now it looks sort of unrealistic, like ripped paper; a pterosaur’s wing would not tear that way.)
Pterano looks a little creeped out himself. But if “dumbfounded” was the look you were going for, I don’t think you did so bad.
The rock in that image looks really good, by the way. The sky’s not bad either (though it looks sort of like there’s a second, smaller, dimmer source of light to the right of the sun).
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I actually did try to include his wing and leg in the picture, but they ended up looking really strange being Pterano.
I did this a while ago as something like a "cover" for my story that revolves around Ptyra's journey.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0009.jpg)
Uncreative title is uncreative. I also labeled the characters XD. I'm definitely going to simplify the background, though.
I honestly imagine this as part of what happens after Pterano accidentally leads his part of the herd into danger
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0008.jpg)
And boy was it hard to draw Pterano here
Speculation on if Ada survived and found her way to the Great Valley (after the Rebellion). I might as well change what happens slightly.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0007.jpg)
The interesting thing is that Ptyra has no idea who she's talking to. She just thinks that it's a friendly new comer. I decided that Pterano does NOT witness Ada's "death", but a "Milady DeWinter" type of character brings Pterano some of Ada's wing and says that she was attacked by a swimming Sharptooth. Boy is that morbid...
Hence Ada's torn wing and Pterano's extremely surprised expression.
The thing eating out of the tree is supposed to be a Therezinosaurus. After 13, I decided to tweak my Theriz's design. I've tried to draw a "central" one for basic design, and attempted to give his "frill" an Aztec-ish look to make him look even more intimidating.
And this is the point where Pterano is evicted from Ada's flock after her "death". For reasons of irresponsibility for Ada
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0006.jpg)"You have failed me, Pterano!" The old flier shouted. "You had glory right in your claws and you lost it when you failed to protect my daughter!" He fumed. "On top of that, you blundered in defending her nest against eggstealers and lost one of her children against them!" He glared in Ptyra's direction. "The one that could have been her son!" He said. "Ada never wanted a son, she just wanted her own children! She would be happy with either a male or female child...unlike you!" Pterano snapped back. "That's beside the point!" The old green flier raised his claws threateningly. "Ada is DEAD because of your failure!" Pterano was astounded. "Since when do you suddenly care? You NEVER loved your daughter!" He said. "And for all I know, you'll love your granddaughter even less!" Ptyra, who perched on Pterano's shoulder, whimpered slightly at his unusual change in temper.
"Of course I loved my daughter!"
"Well...you didn't show it very well." Pterano glared at the gruff flier angrily. Ada's father fumed. "Well. If you're going to act like that...then leave and never come back." He hissed. "I was planning to anyway!" Pterano shot back with equal irritation
*sings to "Oh, Clemintine"* Oh, it's a cliche, it's a cliche, what a horr-ible cliche.
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Let's take a short break from the fliers and see some Egg Stealers for a moment!
Two characters that come up after/during (I'm not sure yet) The Great Valley Rebellion
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-5.jpg)
I look forward to coloring these two. They're supposed to be baby egg-stealers that adopt Strut. You heard me. They adopt Strut...kinda. I wanted to be more creative with their designs and make them look cute. I was trying to come up with how Uther could look like he's wearing a little school-boy sailor uniform, but I couldn't figure it out.
Speaking of baby Egg Stealers...
This one was roughly inspired by the caption chain on this caption-this (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=5423). The one that starts with "What do you mean you're pregnant?"
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-3.jpg)
The thing saying "Mama Luigi" is supposed to be a Yoshi, but it looks more like a Bone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Out_from_Boneville.jpg) with enormous eyes.
Now, how about those hatchday gifts, Uncle Ozzy 8D ?
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Interesting drawings. Are you going to flesh some of these out or do you prefer doing sketches like this for your ideas to get them on paper?
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I'm going to leave the second one as it is until I come up with another version. I had one idea where Strut was leaving Ozzy to egg-sit while he was going...somewhere.
"I'll see you later, Uncle Ozzy!"
(On the eggs) "Grrrrrr >:( "
"Mummy will be baa-ack!"
Sounds like something that would come out of a silly pre-teen yaio fanatic XD . And it was a little weirder than the first, but it did come from the same "Caption this"
"I thought you liked eggs"
"I like to eat them, not egg-sit them!"
I did start working on Ruth and Uther, though.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/RuthUthercolors.png)
This is another "Do you like the colors?" thing.
The access of white on Uther's toes is because I was coloring on transparency.
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This is a great collection of drawings Ptyra, when are you finally going to put up this amazing story they go along with?
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I'm still working on some of it. It's an incredibly hard to put together at this point. I know what's going to happen, but I don't know how to chain them together. Which is usually why I talk to folks for ideas.
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Sorry about taking so long with the feedback. :oops (I’ll get to the egg stealer images in my next post. ;))
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0009.jpg)
It’s a little hard to critique the characters in the first image, seeing as they’re all silhouettes, and mostly of OCs I haven’t seen before, but I think the Corythosaurus’s legs (and Strut’s ankle) shouldn’t be bent at such sharp angles. You’ll probably also want to change the Mussaurus’s feet (darn them feet! :rolleyes), as she(?) looks almost as if she(?) is wearing clown shoes. :lol Finally, the point where Topus’s legs connect to his(?) body should probably be thicker.
I honestly imagine this as part of what happens after Pterano accidentally leads his part of the herd into danger
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0008.jpg)
And boy was it hard to draw Pterano here
I like the concept of this image, and the basic positions of the characters, but if I may say so, you might want to consider starting over (or at least making major revisions) on this one. Pterano’s beak looks like it’s bent downward independently of his crest (he’s also missing a leg), but he’s so close to Petrie’s mother that it would be difficult to fix this without having to re-draw at least one of them. (Alternatively, you could change the angle of his crest to match that of his beak, but I don’t think it would look nearly as good.) Petrie’s mother herself looks pretty good (I like her sympathetic expression and posture :)), though her beak shape should be closer to that of Ada’s in the next image.
Speculation on if Ada survived and found her way to the Great Valley (after the Rebellion). I might as well change what happens slightly.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0007.jpg)
The interesting thing is that Ptyra has no idea who she's talking to. She just thinks that it's a friendly new comer. I decided that Pterano does NOT witness Ada's "death", but a "Milady DeWinter" type of character brings Pterano some of Ada's wing and says that she was attacked by a swimming Sharptooth. Boy is that morbid...
Hence Ada's torn wing and Pterano's extremely surprised expression.
The thing eating out of the tree is supposed to be a Therezinosaurus. After 13, I decided to tweak my Theriz's design. I've tried to draw a "central" one for basic design, and attempted to give his "frill" an Aztec-ish look to make him look even more intimidating.
And this is the point where Pterano is evicted from Ada's flock after her "death". For reasons of irresponsibility for Ada
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0006.jpg)
All of the flyer characters in these pictures are extremely well done. :wow Even the feet look pretty good (well, Pterano’s right foot in the second one is a bit blocky, but other than that...). Ada’s head, in my opinion, is a particular masterpiece, but it’s hard to find anything to complain about on either her or Ptyra. :p (Speaking of Ada, she must’ve had a hard time getting to the Great Valley with that wing. :blink:)
I really like your revised Therizinosaurus. :yes Even before I saw in the description that you were going for an “Aztec-ish” look, I thought the plumes on his head looked cool. :smile (I’ve always been fond of Therizinosaurus depictions with long spines or feathers on the head. :p) If I were to suggest anything, it would be to make the neck longer, and perhaps make the stomach a bit more bulbous (a fairly distinctive feature of therizinosaurs is that they had prominent guts to accommodate and digest large amounts of plant matter).
In the second picture, just add a tiny little point to Pterano’s beak and his head is absolutely perfect. :yes And the detail of the scar and wrinkles (flyers’ feet? :p) on Ada’s dad’s head is incredible (I hope you can artistically translate that onto the colored version). I also like how you gave him a jagged beak, instead of just having a single notch in it. It looks more realistic as well as making him even more intimidating.
By the way, Ptyra looks adorable clinging to Pterano’s back. :wub
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Are these your first pictures of egg stealers? You're very good at drawing them. :wow Your characters (Ruth and Uther more so than Ozzy and Strut) have somewhat misshapen-looking toes, but if, in future depictions, you can draw all of their claws to be same size and shape, and the toes evenly splayed (or pointing in the same direction, depending on the visual angle and position of the feet), I don't think egg stealer feet should be much of a problem. :yes
The caption-inspired picture isn't even of the kind of humor I generally like, and I still thought it was amusing. :lol For me, the expressions on Ozzy and Strut (and the presence of all the baby egg stealers :wub) have much more impact than the punchline of the joke.
I like the idea of the two little egg stealers adopting Strut :lol (after he splits up with Ozzy, I'm assuming). I also like how you gave them individually specific patterns. Ruth's coloration inverts the countershading scheme of most real-life animals (darker on the back and lighter on the belly), but it still looks pretty good on her.
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Yes, it is my first time drawing them! My first one was actually a rough sketch of Strut, but it was pretty darn good (probably because I had a reference at hand)
Here's Ruth and Uther again with background.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/RuthUther.png)
I covered their feet this time XD
And ANOTHER sketch. Using my first flier tail since I was in fourth grade :lol .I drew fliers to the side as a teeny Elementary School kid, usually Ptyra(nna) was flying under the Northern Lights (WTF!?!?) and at that point, I almost always had tails. Now, I've found them hard to include.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-6.jpg)
This is supposed to be around the time that Ada's flock returns to Big Water with Pterano. And this was among his first times fishing at Big Water...and first successful catch. I know Ada's face is dark, but that's what I got from the scanner's photo-editing...thingy...and erasing that zone.
Something moved in the water. He skimmed close to the water and plunged his beak into the edge. He felt something soft and squishy at the tip of his beak. He clamped down around it and swooped upward into the air. His catch remained in his beak, and it hung low enough for him to see that he had caught a squid! The other fliers, who watched from the high cliffs, began jabbering with shock.
"Look at that!"
"The bark-beak's caught a squid."
"It won't last. It'll black him soon."
Black him? A large majority of the spectators seemed most impressed. He looked below where Ada was-she looked overwhelmed with pride for her "student".[/color]
Need I explain the meaning of "blacken" when a squid is involved?
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Looks good to me. I like the story type of info that you include at the bottom of the pictures. I hope you continue to draw and share them here.
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I'm glad you liked them. More sketches now (I probably complete two or three in a single school day XD)
I actually started this one yesterday with an interesting thought in mind.
I noticed that kissing does seem to exist in the LBT universe: Ducky gives Petrie a big ol' smack on the cheek in the first movie, In the second, during "Eggs"
Ozzy: I'll borrow, I'll beg, I'll even kiss you
Ozzy: Kiss me?!
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and in Days of Rising Water, Petrie kisses his snuggling stick.
And because Petrie kissed his snuggling stick, I was like "how the heck would that work?"...without winding up like the toucans in The Three Caballeros...3:16 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_WZ3AypemE&feature=related#movie_player)
Instead, since I had such a hard time with getting the beaks right, it turned into Pterano and Ada's version of the first love scene between D'Artagnan and Constance.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/youcanwait.jpg)
"Bed? That's the best place for you, bed."
Not following the previous (:lol), but definitely before the Ptyra-egg pictures (when she could have had a sibling). This is the "Look, honey! We have a family!" thing
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Happymoment.jpg)
I'm pretty proud of how this one came out...and Ada's dad in the background (Gosh darn it, I need a name for him D8 !)
Here's that picture of Strut I mentioned
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Strut.jpg)
From this picture (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Strut4.png)
And something I DEFINITELY plan on re-doing D8
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/RescueTricia.jpg)
This is a picture from my fan-episode where Tricia wanders into the Mysterious Beyond and the GoS (Plus Guido) go after her, only for Pterano to save her from falling to her death. And then he has to protect all nine of them while they're deep in the Mysterious Beyond after Red Claw attacks them
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More sketches now (I probably complete two or three in a single school day XD)
Holy buckets! :blink: No rest for the reviewers, then, I guess. :p
Not much new to say about the new picture of Ruth and Uther, (except that you did a very good job concealing the feet :p) though I forgot to mention earlier that Uther’s tail should probably be visible behind Ruth.
Pterano’s head in the sketch of him fishing looks very good, in my opinion (maybe his crest ought to be a bit longer, but it almost doesn’t matter). However, I would suggest changing his wings so that the leading edge is convexly curved, and perhaps slightly more flush with his arms. As it is, the wing membranes look as if they’re trailing behind him like a cape; not a great aerofoil.
You also might want to change Pterano’s legs and feet (make his toes a little more claw-like; as it is they look almost human :blink:). In the picture, his knees are apparently folded underneath his body, when his legs should probably be extended behind him. In addition, it might help to have his right leg sticking out on the opposite side of his tail from his left led (as opposed to being directly behind the tail), so it doesn’t look like the back half of his body is twisted
Need I explain the meaning of "blacken" when a squid is involved?
Oh, I can just imagine... :lol
Pterano: “Look what I’ve brought you for dinner, Ptyra!”
*SPLAT*
Pterano: (thinking, covered in ink while Ptyra laughs herself silly) I hate it when that happens...
As something of a cephalopod fanatic, I must spare a few words for the squid. :p I can’t tell what that “halo” (for lack of a better descriptor) around it is (a fin?), but it appears to be missing the long, pointed torpedo-shaped mantle characteristic of squid.
Despite the problem you mentioned with the eyes, Ada (whom I at first thought was Ptyra, begging for food. :oops) looks quite good.
I have noticed that I’ve never seen a tail on any of your flyers, probably because they are almost always in positions where the tail should not be visible, and, in any case, Pteranodons have such small tails that they are not hard to miss.
I gotta say, Pterano’s beak looks REALLY weird in the kissing picture. :blink: Kissing may exist in the LBT world, but personally I prefer licking and nuzzling (rubbing beaks in the case of flyers) as gestures of affection among LBT dinosaurs.
Other than Pterano’s freaky beak, :p and Ada’s left leg looking a little long, I think they both look quite good. :yes
In the following picture, it is Ada who has the strange-looking beak. It looks almost toucan-like. Her father, however, is very well-drawn. (I’d love to help you think of a name for him, but I’m terrible at making up names for characters. :bang)
The Strut picture is pretty darn good for your first try. :blink: I’d say you’re a natural at drawing egg stealers. :yes
In the last picture, Tricia’s head looks a little small in proportion to her body, her right hind leg is really oddly shaped, and she has three toes on her left front foot and right hind foot, but four (too many, I think :unsure:) on her right front foot and left hind foot. Pterano looks fantastic, however. :wow
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Pterano's crest in the fishing one is shorter because he's young in that picture. He's supposed to be in that weird "gray area" where he's between a pre-tee and teenager. I had no reference for the squid, so I think I'll completely re-do it when I color it. The "halo" was supposed to be the area of flesh surrounding the head, but again, I had no reference for a squid XD .
I got the shape of the beak in the kissing picture from this shot (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Pterano-1.png). The problem is that I did it from memory, so I guess I'll look to that shot so I can fix the problem.
And finally, ANOTHER sketch!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Infatuation.jpg)
Commence infatuation song :p .
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^Need a song? How 'bout "Bad Romance" :smile? The idea of Pterano being seen as a criminal in the eyes of the Valley residents made me think of the following lyrics from the song, seen from Ada's point of view:
I want your horror, I want your design.
'Cause you're a criminal as long as you're mine.
I want your love, love, love, love!
I want your love!
:lol
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How often do you usually do a sketch?
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Pterano's crest in the fishing one is shorter because he's young in that picture.
In that case, it's perfect. The only thing I'd change on his entire head in that picture (something I just noticed) is the corner of his mouth; his smile is too close to the border of his beak.
I had no reference for the squid, so I think I'll completely re-do it when I color it. The "halo" was supposed to be the area of flesh surrounding the head, but again, I had no reference for a squid XD .
Try Googling "Loligo". That's pretty much your classic squid. ;)
I got the shape of the beak in the kissing picture from this shot (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Pterano-1.png). The problem is that I did it from memory, so I guess I'll look to that shot so I can fix the problem.
It's not so much the way you drew Pterano that weirds me out as the fact that (in my opinion) creatures with beaks look extremely bizarre when "kissing". :p
Most of my critiques on the new sketch involve Pterano's arms and hands. His right upper arm gets extremely narrow close to his hand, his left forearm looks a bit skinny, especially near the elbow, and the claw on his right hand (the one overhanging the rock) is a little too long. I like his expression, though. And the background looks interesting.
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That's exactly one of the reasons why I had a hard time with drawing it. And they'd probably end up like those two toucans anyway XD
I noticed the arm thing soon after I posted the picture. I'll find some way to fix it.
@C_T
Heh. Except that all but one of the Ada pictures happen before the Great Valley...and even before the Great Earthshake. It's a nice suggestion.
As I drew this, I was imagining a soft, lullaby-ish song...with some simple notes of sitar. No, I am NOT making a reference to The Guru...*shifty eyes*
Then again, it is from the point of view of a far younger Pterano.
And now it's time for a COLORED picture 8D !
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Happymoment-1.png)
The only personal issue I have is Pterano's crest and the water splash...and everything else behind Ada's father.
Speaking of him, I've only come up with two names: Tyson and Tyrone. While Tyson sounds to "soft", Tyrone sounds too close to Pterano...to my ears. I definitely think that he should have an intimidating sounding name. I've been thinking of his personality, and he's pretty much a mix between Henry VIII (in terms of him wanting a male heir), Caesar (thinks he's invincible), and Captain Ahab (Craaazy). Ooooo, that's a NASTY mix!
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Pterano’s crest does look a bit overly horizontal (so does Ada’s, sort of), but Ada’s beak looks much better than in the sketch. :yes I may have to agree with you about the background as well. (By the way, one suggestion I have for when you draw caves is that you shade the walls darker than the floor, to better differentiate them.)
My main critique on the characters in this image is Ada’s forearm and hand. You’re also missing a bit of outline where Pterano’s hand is touching Ada’s shoulder (her other shoulder seems to be missing a slight chunk of outline as well), and part of her eye seems to be drawn over her eyebrow.
I’m still amazed by how much detail you managed to put into Ada’s father in this picture, considering that he’s relatively distant here. (The only thing I have to nitpick is his left leg, which looks excessively straight in the back, and seems to be lacking a knee.) He has a sort of ominous feel in this image, like he’s about to spoil Pterano and Ada’s happy moment.
Out of the two names you mentioned for Ada’s father, I definitely think “Tyrone” sounds much better, but you might want to keep brainstorming. (In case it has any bearing on your decision, Caustizer came up with a similar nameóTyronófor a sharptooth villain in his story “Far Away Home”.) If you like, I can let you know if I come up with any ideas. ;)
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I'm particularly looking forward to the picture featuring the gang. I really like your pictures, but it would be awesome to see some more not exclusively flyers pictures as well.
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@ Pangea:
I thought of another name for Ada's father: Tybalt. I think I might use that one. He does kind of add an ominous feel, now that I think about it. I like to think of that scene as the bit where there's a happy moment and the "possible villain...?" comes in and makes his congratulations...and shadows some of his "villainy...?" on the unsuspecting protagonists.
@ Malte: I think I might re-do that one, once I have references at hand. I think I might do it from different angles too.
And here we are, another colored picture!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Infatuation-1.png)
My only complaint at the moment is that Pterano's crest seems a little too thick. I'm a little pleased with how the water crashing turned out, and the splash where Ada caught the fish.
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@ Pangea:
I thought of another name for Ada's father: Tybalt. I think I might use that one.
Hmm...not sure what I think of "Tybalt", personally; it almost doesn't sound intimidating enough. :p (Obviously, though, he's your character, and you should name him what you like. :))
Pterano's hands and left arm look much better in the colored image :yes (though now his right arm seems to be lacking a wrist :blink:), and I agree with you that the background looks good. However, in real life, do you think there would be waves crashing against the beach and the rocks from opposite sides like that? (On the other hand, maybe that does happen... :unsure: I've gotta take a look at some nature documentaries on coasts...)
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Here's my fishing...squiding...picuture in color!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Squid.png)
The colors of the water, combined with the color of the rock, looked pretty stormy, so I tried to come up with a pre-storm look to the sky.
Boy were his legs a pain to re-draw...but I did take Pangea's advice for the squid (It looks very surprised :lol ).
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Boy were his legs a pain to re-draw...but I did take Pangea's advice for the squid (It looks very surprised :lol ).
Squid don't have eyelids. They ALWAYS look surprised. :p The body of the revised squid looks pretty good (though it's missing fins), and the shape of the “club” at the end of the outstretched feeding tentacle is perfect. However (and boy, do I feel bad saying this after I suggested you change the squid :bang), I think the flailing arms in the original sketch looked better.
Sorry to hear that the legs were hard to do. :oops The left one is definitely lgeatly improved. The right one's not bad either, though some of the outlines are a little too thick, and it looks a little too narrow at the knee joint...okay, I feel like I should shut up now. :unsure:
Also, good job making Pterano's wings look more aerodynamic, :yes and I'd say Ada's eyes (indeed, her entire head) turned out great as well.
The colors of the water, combined with the color of the rock, looked pretty stormy, so I tried to come up with a pre-storm look to the sky.
Oh, that's the sky? I thought it was rock. :oops I think you might have made it TOO stormy-looking.
If it's any consolation, I REALLY like the rock in the upper right-hand corner. The waves crashing against it look nice, and part of looks to be shaded, in such a way that it gives a much greater sense of depth than most of your rocks.
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I've been trying to find stormy sky tutorials on Deviantart, but I haven't found anything helpful. I'm really not sure what to do for that look on Photoshop...
Anyway, I have my next picture up, the one with Pterano's eviction from Ada's flock.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Dissapointed.png)
I tried to emphasize Tybalt's scar, but I'm not entirely sure I did so well. And he seemed to lose a bit of scariness too...
And boy is the water and sky bland!
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It's subtle, but you're right that he kind of seems a little less scary than in the sketch. I can't put my finger on why, though. :huh:
He still looks great, though. I think you did a good job on the scar. And you did fantastically maintaining all the detail on all the characters from the sketched version to the finished product. :wow The corner of Ptyra's mouth is rubbing outlines with her lower jaw, but it's almost justified considering the fineness of detail on her. Ignoring the feet, the only other criticisms I have are Tybalt's hands (which look a little disproportionately large) and Pterano's beak and mouth. Somehow the lines look a little...pixellated? Bumpy? Not sure how to describe it. :confused
I can't argue with you about the sky, but the water doesn't look so bad to me. Warning: I'm no expert at drawing water, so my suggestions may not be any good, but maybe if you made the entire surface more reflective and/or blended the borders of the light and dark areas together slightly (I'd suggest trying them one at a time as well as together), it would look more realistic? (Looking at screenshots of watery surfaces in LBT would probably help you more than anything I have to suggest. :p)
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Well, I've got some sketches for ya right now. I have one being colored right now.
Annnd crack-down in 3...2...1...
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Imafool.jpg)
It was incredibly hard to draw Pterano like this. Didn't even turn out the way I wanted. It was supposed to be a "What on earth have I done to myself?"...thing...shortly after he got to the Mysterious Beyond. He looks a lot more embarrassed if you ask me.
Ptyra came out horribly in this
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Squidink.jpg)
But Pangea inspired me quite a bit a while ago :lol !
Another one where Ptyra came out badly
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Nuzzle.jpg)
Can I haz Littlefoot's hatching music?
Ptyra with a Sea Star
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/StarSwimmer.jpg)
"Daddy, what's this?" Ptyra pranced over to Pterano with a Sea Star. Pterano smiled at her fondly. "That's a Star Swimmer, dear." He said. "A Star Swimmer?" Ptyra cocked her head at it. "Is it alive?" She asked. "I'm not sure." Pterano said. "But your mother thought they were." He had a deep feeling of nostalgia, remembering the first time he saw a Star Swimmer. He had asked Ada the very same question. "'Just because they don't look like something that's alive, it doesn't mean they are.'" Pterano quoted her. Ptyra had set down the Star Swimmer and was incessantly poking it with her beak. "It doesn't ACT alive!" She cried
And now for another OC...who eventually does become Ptyra's mate.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Tarran.jpg)
This guy was pretty difficult to draw. My goal was to make him slightly heavy-set, without it being one of the Judges in Great Day of the Fliers. And then the beak markings was to have him a little bit more differentiated from other fliers...and I have more than one "design", since I don't know what to make it look like.[/color]
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And now for one in color...finally.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Surprisereturngrassfix.png)
I ended up removing the longnecks in the back...and I think the Therizinosaurus' feet are too big (feeeeeet D8 !!!). I'm not really sure about the back wall and the grass, though...Ptyra and Ada arn't looking right at each other
But I absolutely LOVE Pterano's expression XD
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lol what's that dinosaur inbetween the trees? Looks funny.
Nice job on the expressions especially :)
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'Sposed to be a Therizinosaurus :)
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*sigh* Double post...
Here's the star swimmer one
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/StarSwimmer-1.png)
I'm very happy with how this turned out. I had to move Pterano's foot back, but otherwise, I'm incredibly happy. And it turned out extremely sweet too.
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Nice pictures. Some are very touching. You're a skilled artist.
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Sorry for taking so long. :oops
I think the first sketch of Pterano captures the emotion you were going for quite well, though I agree that it could also be interpreted as embarrassment or shame. (Question: is it supposed to take place after he and Ptyra leave Tybalt's flock, after the incident with the herd and the sharpteeth, or after he is banished from the Great Valley?) The only major critique I have is that his head looks disproportionately small compared to the rest of his body. (Or maybe the rest of his body is too big?)
Ptyra came out horribly in this
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Squidink.jpg)
But Pangea inspired me quite a bit a while ago :lol !
Glad to know that I can be inspirational. :smile The picture is fantastic! :lol: Personally, I think Ptyra looks adorable (though I notice you used your original design of the bodyless, black-eyed squid :p). And both her and Pterano's expressions are hilarious! :lol :lol (That's pretty much exactly what I envisioned Pterano's expression to look like when I suggested that situation.)
In the third sketch (the one with the hatchling Ptyra), I again think Ptyra looks cute. I admit she doesn't look as good as usual, but I think it's mainly because, from the looks of things, it's a very small drawing of her, and there's not much room for detail. It's still an adorable scene, and I'd love to see a different version of it with a "better" Ptyra. :yes
The new OC looks great! The two major critical observations I have are that his legs may possibly be a tad long in proportion to the rest of him, and the way his left arm attaches to his body looks a little strange. I love the idea of the black markings on the beak as a distinguishing characteristic. It reminds me of how some seabirds’ beaks are patterned. As far as the designs are concerned, I think #5 is my favorite, and that it, along with #3, is the most "natural" looking.
Darn, I'm out of time. You'll probably have to wait until at least Saturday for me to post reviews for the two colored pictures. Sorry. :oops
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As promised, I'm back with feedback on the colored images. (Sorry about the double post. :p)
The colored Great Valley picture is gorgeous! :wow I like the grass (I think the color's pretty :smile), and while the Great Wall looks a little low in some areas, it doesn't particularly bother me (I prefer to see blue sky in the distance anyway :p). The waterfall and the bark on the trees look nice, too.
All three flyer characters are great, with only minor flaws (Ptyra's left shin; Pterano's right wing disappearing behind his leg; the outlines of Ptyra's chin looking a bit "wrinkled"). Ptyra's line of vision may not be perfectly aligned with Ada's face, but her eyes themselves look fantastic (I really like that color for her eyes). Also, Ada’s feet are very well done here. And I agree with you: Pterano’s expression is terrific. :lol
I agree with you about the Therizinosaurus's feet, but my main complaint regarding him is that you just rounded off his face, when I thought you had a very well-done snout on him before. Also, the corythosaurs in the background have no eyes :blink: (not even little pinpricks).
The star swimmer picture is very cute, and the colored version also turned out beautifully. :yes (Even the background is amazing; I love the look of the sand and the water.) My main critique is that Ptyra’s eye is WAY too far forward on her face. Other than that, she doesn’t seem to have much of an elbow, and in the colored version, Pterano’s left forearm looks awfully skinny, while his right forearm is much thicker than in the original drawing. His foot, however, I think looks better than in the drawing. Not just its position, but the shape of the toes is much improved from the sketched version. I think Pterano’s beak looks quite good as well.
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I drew that picture before I edited my first squid, so that might explain something.
I got a new sketchbook (in which it is extremely heard to draw on with .5 lead >< ), so my next two are from that.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Stolen.jpg)
Exactly as the "story" on the bottom says. This is after Pterano rescues Ptyra's egg from one of the eggstealers (the one that was easier to manipulate), then coming to realize that the eggs were stolen from his roost.
As I said earlier, I finally decided to give Ptyra a mate after the Great Valley Rebellion. So this pretty much depicts the turning point where Ptyra and Tarran are SUPPOSED to be ready to tell Pterano (and Ada, now that she's there) what they've decided...but there's no need to.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Proud.jpg)
Tarren didn't come out nearly as "husky" as I wanted to and Ptyra's foot/feet look strange (no surprise). I also tried to draw Tarren so it looked like he hasn't disappeared behind Ptyra, as I have a habit of doing. I had to adjust Pterano's wing A LOT so it looked like he was hiding behind the tree (my idea is that he loses his balance as he's leaning into watch, and that gets Ptyra and Tarren's attention).
I decided on a beak design for Tarren, though...and the bush is to fill the space (and to practice my bushes)
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I like how Pterano's head and neck turned out in the first image, but his eyes, in my opinion, aren't nearly up to your usual level of excellency of character expressions. Both his eyebrows and the eyes themselves are almost triangular at the top, and personally I find his expression hard to read. There is also an issue with Pterano's legs in that image: his left leg has a very pronounced ankle joint, but his right leg does not.
Tarren didn't come out nearly as "husky" as I wanted to and Ptyra's foot/feet look strange (no surprise). I also tried to draw Tarren so it looked like he hasn't disappeared behind Ptyra, as I have a habit of doing.
Well, considering that Ptyra is in front of Tarran/Tarren (you used both spellings in your last post; which is correct? :confused), it's kind of hard to see what his body looks like, even though he hasn't “disappeared” behind her either. As for Ptyra's feet, the right heel is rather oddly shaped, but the toes actually aren't so bad (making the toe tips pointed, with spacing between them, is the way to go, as far as I am concerned). And Pterano turned out really good, I think. :yes The expressions of all the characters are also outstanding. :DD
By the way, whose wingtip is that trailing on the ground between Ptyra's leg and Tarran's foot? :huh I'm assuming it's Tarran's, because if it were Ptyra's, then Tarran's leg shouldn't be visible in front of it. However, if that's the case, then the trailing edge of his wing must be curled upward for both sides of the membrane to be visible, and from the position of his left foot, he should be stepping on it. :blink:
You'd probably want to change both Ptyra and Tarran's right hands. One of Tarran's fingers is too narrow at the base, two look to be splayed at an odd angle, and his hand is indistinct from the forearm. Ptyra's leftmost finger should be her third (corresponding to the middle finger in humans) and like Tarran there doesn't seem to be much “hand” behind her fingers. (For the record, both characters' left hands look good. ;)) I'd also suggest making the crease in Ptyra's left elbow shorter; less pronounced.
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I didn't realize that I spelled it differently twice. I've decided it's Tarran.
Before I color the second image, I tested a color scheme
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/TarranGrey.png)
(I don't think I'll do the shadowed hues in other pictures with him, it only ended up like that because I thought I could darken/lighten his colors in quick edit, and I ended up with that. It is pretty neat looking, though.
I do think a seagull look on him, but it's more based on the terns I see a lot around the markets and at my park. I thought black-tipped wings would be helpful to associate with the sea bird look, other than the beak and colors. I think I might leave him this way. I tried yellow and orange, but it didn't work with Tarran.
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I like his coloring. :yes The black-tipped wings were a great idea. Although, another characteristic of seabird coloration is countershading; the undersides of the wings are lighter than the tops. (Maybe you're happy with his colors right now, and don't want to change his wings, but I thought I'd mention it just in case you were planning to experiment a little more. Personally I think he'd look nice with whitish underwings like Petrie's and a slightly darker body and upperwings.)
One slight issue with this image is that, because it doesn't have a background (even a plain white one), it's kind of difficult to fully appreciate Tarran's color scheme (especially the black wing and beak markings) against the GOF wallpaper.
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Yes, the black does make it quite hard to see :/ .
I did, however, take your advice to lighten the inside of the wings. It looks much better now.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Tarrangrey2.png)
I also went over the "white spaces" from where I made selections to alter the color.
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And now, a sketch in color!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Proud-1.png)
I was actually wanting a sunrise, but I eventually said "no", since there would be a color clash with the rest of the picture.
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Oooh, very nice job on the new color picture of Tarran.
That was very creative with the grey/black two tone colors. I like the new color picture wih him and Ptyra. :yes
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I did, however, take your advice to lighten the inside of the wings. It looks much better now.
I'm glad you think so. And I agree, it does look better :yes (though I’m not so keen on the thickened outlines and white reflections on the pupils).
The new colored picture is very pretty. :yes I particularly love Ptyra’s expression. She looks very loving. :DD And even though we can’t see as much of Tarran as before, he looks very good as well. (Somehow I get the impression that he’s sort of a meek character, and Ptyra’s the more forwardly affectionate one in the relationship.) I just noticed now that his beak is slightly shorter and more squared off at the front than in the first picture of him. Was that an intentional design change? (It does make him look even more gull-like.)
Pterano’s pretty good, too, though there’s something about his smile that seems a little off to me. (Maybe it’s that the corner of his mouth touches the outline of his beak, or just doesn’t extend far back enough. :unsure:) Tarran’s right hand looks much better than in the sketch, although I would suggest adding a crease to differentiate his two hidden fingers. There’s also some grass on top of Tarran’s feet (as well as overlapping a tiiiiiny bit of Ptyra’s left leg and wing), with little connection to the ground. Truthfully, I don’t think you need to overlap your characters’ feet with quite so much grass. Finally, the water in the background looks awfully smooth to me.
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The grass is the reason why most of my pictures have rocky or sandy settings =P
I've recently done some more Pterano and Ada...and one of them is a re-make
First, the remake. Remember that old dancing picture from last winter?
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-4.jpg)
They ended up older than in the last one, so I thought it would be an interesting "Hey, remember that time?" kind of thing.
Ohhh, song sequence!!!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-7.jpg)
My idea of this is Pterano coming to realize how he feels about Ada...described in song. And while he's busy having his head in the clouds, Ada comes along. I like to think of this as a mix between "Very Important Creature" and "My Evangeline" (from The Princess and the Frog). I don't know how that's possible, but it is. But even better, I wonder what's going on in his head.
He's supposed to be kneeling, but I don't think I got it quite the way I wanted...BUT I LOVE HIS FEET :D ! His hand looks odd, but it's supposed to be over his chest, so to look more theatrical =P
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Remember that old dancing picture from last winter?
You mean this one (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001.jpg)? (colored version (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Dance.png)) Believe it or not, it was only about fourteen weeks ago that you posted that! :! It’s amazing how much your art style has evolved (and improved, I’d definitely say :yes) since then. :wow
Honestly, I didn't actually realize they were dancing in the older picture, :oops but here I can definitely see it. Pterano’s left foot looks pretty good (the middle toe of his right foot is too short). So does Ada’s left foot, though her ankle looks awfully thin. Pterano’s torso looks shorter than usual, making his legs look somewhat awkwardly long by comparison.
If Ada’s supposed to be smiling, I think the corner of her mouth should curve up slightly more. Also, I think her crest should be a little higher up on her head, and constricted towards the base (compare with this picture (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=2480&view=findpost&p=9176541)). And maybe her throat pouch (if that’s what it is) extends a little too far forward. Other than those features, however, her face looks fantastic. :D
Okay, the second picture...
His hand looks odd, but it's supposed to be over his chest, so to look more theatrical =P
Was your intention to have his palm be over his chest? Because it looks like his palm is facing forward. Also, his thumb is on the wrong side of his hand.
He's supposed to be kneeling, but I don't think I got it quite the way I wanted...BUT I LOVE HIS FEET :D !
You’re right. His feet look awesome. :smile Especially the one he’s kneeling on. I think getting that diagonal line between his toes and his ankle to match up to his heel and be distinct from his ankle was the trick. :yes And I’d say you did a pretty good job with the kneeling pose. :) This is classic Pterano right here. :lol
I really like how Pterano’s head looks in this image. (It might be a bit small compared to the rest of him, but other than that, his proportions here are very good.) My one suggestion would be to make sureówhen you color this imageóthat the outline of his left eye isn’t rubbing against the outline of his eyebrow. Ada looks quite good here, the one glaring faulty detail being that the corner of her mouth comes nowhere near near the corner of her beak.
By the way, congratulations, Ptyra! That picture of Pterano and Ada dancing marks the 100th art piece you’ve posted on this thread! :DD (This number includes sketches, revisions, and alternate versions.) So much for this thread’s subtitle. :p
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Fouteen weeks ago!? I could have sworn it was longer!
And I'm surprised someone counted how many pictures I made...really surprised. It feels like I made LESS than that.
Here's another sketch until further notice...a sketch that I am very scared to color...
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-8.jpg)
Of the Gang, I think Littlefoot and Ruby came out the best. This is a scene from my fan-episode when Pterano realizes how tall Littlefoot has gotten in five cold times.
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Five years later.....Pterano has returned.
I agree. WOW did Littlefoor grow! he IS big.
And look at Petrie. His crest grew big, too. (I love how he rests on Pterano's shoulder, too, it's so cute :) )
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Oh, btw, the three parts I like the most in the appearance of fliers, is the crest, the beak, and the neck ring.
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Fouteen weeks ago!? I could have sworn it was longer!
And I'm surprised someone counted how many pictures I made...really surprised. It feels like I made LESS than that.
Yeah, I'm not just your #1 reviewer; I'm your #1 fan as well. :p
Admittedly, I don’t consider this picture to be one of your best works. But then, to my knowledge, you haven’t drawn most of the gang in this much detail before, so it’s understandable that there are flaws. :yes Is the gang supposed to be older in this drawing? Petrie and Littlefoot, namely, are strikingly different in their proportions.
Here are my critiques for each of the characters:
ï Pterano’s beak is pretty rounded at the tip, and his eyes might be a little far forward. The lowest finger on his left hand also has a joint on the underside that makes it look rather strange.
ï Cera and Tricia’s heads are too small. Tricia looks pretty cute, though. They also appear to be the only characters here with visible ears.
ï I’d put Littlefoot’s nostrils a little further back. Maybe it’s me, but his head looks almost like a Tinysaurus’s.
ï Ruby’s beak should be deeper (almost as high as the rest of her head), and her crest should be angled forward, not backward.
ï Spike’s plates are too close together, and should be in alternating rows, not paired. His nostrils are also right in front of his eyes, when they should be closer to the tip of his snout.
ï I particularly like how Guido looks here. I would suggest showing at least part of his right leg (since he seems to have only one in this image), and maybe adding a couple more feathers to his tail.
ï Petrie is very cute (appearance-wise, he’s probably my favorite character in this picture, along with Guido), but he seems to be lacking wing membranes. :blink:
ï Ducky’s chest protrudes a little too sharply. She is also missing her nostrils, and her beak should have scalloped edges towards the front. Despite this, she still manages to look cute here. :DD
ï Way to go for giving Chomper two fingers! :smile
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Yes, the gang is supposed to be older :) . This picture takes place sometime after The Great Egg Adventure, and I think that the Gang should be having their growth spurts right about then...especially Littlefoot. I bet he feels so much less smaller now XD . I inked this in a sharpie, so that may have done a bit more damage, but this is indeed my first time drawing the Gang in great detail. Next time, I'm drawing them with references!
Anyway, here's one of the color pictures.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Proclaimation.png)
I had to move Ada away from the water a bit, once the two rocks behind her were connected (when they weren't supposed to be). And now, I just need an incredibly Pterano-ish song to fill in the rest!
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May I ask why you didn't include Chomper in that picture with the whole gang?
Also, just notice a little error in that picture of Pterano singing: One of his lower legs is smaller than the other one, almost as if he's got a mild case of polio. :neutral
BTW, did you start working on those fanfics you were talking about? If so, and you have any parts of them up somewhere, I'd like to read go read them. :smile
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Chomper is in the picture :) . He's hiding behind the rock. And for now, why don't we say the muscle of that leg is tightened :p ? I am horrible at making shaped even XD . But I'm working on it!
I'm still in the process of stitching my fanfictions together. The problem is that I'm not sure if I should do the young Pterano storyline as a flashback...and if so, which of the two should it be? The Great Valley Rebellion, or the one that does not have an official title? The second might be better, since the flashbacks and the story tie together. However, the one with the Gang is on here AND Deviant Art :)
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That's Chomper back there!? :wow
I thought it was one of those crab characters... A sand crawler I think it's called?
May I ask why you had him hiding behind the rock instead of having him socializing with Pterano?
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Chomper was worried about how Pterano would respond to him. It's described more here (http://bat-snake.deviantart.com/art/Fanepisode-158030460)
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This illustration looks fantastic in color! :D
And look! You fixed Pterano’s eyebrow and left hand! And Ada’s mouth, too! Much better now! :smile (I didn’t see Ada’s expression in the sketch as being anything special, but I love how her face looks here.)
I do have a critique regarding the foot of Pterano’s kneeling leg. While it still looks great, I think the line of his ankle should overlap the line of his foot, rather than the other way around (as you have it here). Also, Pterano’s lower jaw is very thin in one area, and the toes on Ada’s right foot have some overly thick outlines. (The toes on her other foot, however, are excellent. :wow)
I think the picture looks better with Ada in her new location, but I notice that you didn’t really give her an elbow (which had previously been hidden behind the rock). Also, that rock in the upper left-hand corner is no longer in the foreground, but it doesn’t seem to contact the ground or the water anywhere. By the way, there’s a tiny wedge of errant blue, surrounded by sand, at the bottom corner of that rock.
I really liked the sand texture you used in the star swimmer picture (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=2480&view=findpost&p=9176603). In my humble opinion, you should have used it here as well, especially since you could indicate distance by increasing the fineness of the sand grains farther from the “camera”. Unfortunately to say, it’s a little hard to recognize the distance between Ada and Pterano (It may partly be because of that rock which was formerly in front of her, now behind her).
The sun looks a little big to me, and maybe too close to the horizon. The horizon itself is rather uneven, so the rocks in the upper right-hand corner appear to be on the same level as the sun. I have a lot of complaints about those rocks, I’m afraid to say. :oops Even though they are farther away than the island, the lines on them are thicker than those on the island, and they have fewer of them. They are also comparatively lighter than the other rocks in the image, which looks especially strange next to the excessively dark outlines of the island (which are otherwise good). In my opinion, the rocks in the left foreground have the perfect mix of color and outline shade (as well as very nice texture). Back to the rocks in the corner, I think they would have looked better if they had been between the island and the mainland, like some of them were in the sketch. Given their current distance from the viewer, the waves around them should DEFINITELY be less visible.
Wow! I didn't know I could come up with so much to say on one picture! :blink:
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Ha, I had to get to bed pretty quick, which is one of the reasons why the sand is less impressive.
Anyway, the dancing is done...and DANG have I come a very long way from fourteen weeks ago!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Dancing.png)
I was going to give Ada a night color, but nothing worked...I guess she's that rare character whose characters work during the day and at night.
I paid some homage to the original with the lighting effects. I had a moon for a short time, but it ended up looking better without a moon.
My water splashes aren't quite as great as usual and Ada's wing looks very weirdly postured, but other than that, I love this picture!
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Anyway, the dancing is done...and DANG have I come a very long way from fourteen weeks ago!
My thoughts exactly. This picture is beautiful! :wow I REALLY like how Ada’s face looks here, her eyes especially (though her right upper eyelid looks just a tiny bit misshapen). And the lighting and coloring is spectacular! Admittedly, I do find Ada’s “night colors” a bit odd-looking, but as you said, it must be difficult to make them look good. As for her wings, well, they too look a little strange, but what are you gonna do? It’s one of the inherent difficulties of drawing flyers in human-like positions, and I didn’t think your solution looks too bad. :yes
I didn’t notice anything off about the waves myself. In fact, I thought the ones on the left looked, if anything, better than usual. Also, good move excluding the moon from the picture. Its out-of-frame position means that we can assume a realistic source for Ada and Pterano’s “spotlight” :p (which, by the way, looks marvelous :yes).
The upper line of Pterano’s mouth is kind of wavy, and the position of the reflections in his pupils make him look less like he’s making eye contact with Ada than he did in the sketch. His nostril, however, is greatly improved from the sketch, and you did a good job making his toenails pointy. :smile
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I've read your fanfic on Deviant Art.
Just a couple of points: I think you've mixed the names of one of the characters up. I can't remember which, but it confused me a bit there, at some point; but then I thought: Okay. She must've meant this one instead of this one. :p
Obviously, Chomper's listened to the stories his flattooth friends told about Pterano, I'm not surprised at his reaction. I'm also not surprised at Pterano's own reaction to Chomper.
I've portrayed a grown up Chomper in some of my fanfics, and how I imagined the flattooths would react to him. I wonder how Pterano would behave faced with a grown up Chomper. :p
Just so you know, I'm almost done my current fanfic, and I have another one planned immediately after that. They're all on fanfiction.net. I invite you to read them, if you haven't done so already. :smile
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Was some of it Ducky calling Pterano "Uncle Pterano"? I honestly thought it would be really sweet if Ducky called him that, so then Pterano would be known as "Uncle" to more than just family (I honestly think that Tricia might start calling him that in later fan fictions)
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Annd now, I've got some more sketches!
For starters, a little "comic" a VERY short time after Ptyra and Pterano are reunited.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-5.jpg)
And thus Ptyra learns NEVER to leave her herd unattended in a strange place. I don't even know what Strut did to make the bees angry.
So, since it's hard to tell, Murel (Mussasaurus) has her head stuck in a log, while Crash and Gabby (Microraptor Gui) are stuck in the other end. Strut is being chased by bees and is right about to step on Topus (Saltopus) who fell in the mud. Then Theo (Corythesaurus) has a crab on his tail.
I probably won't color this, unless I do another version. A whole lot of this is not that great-namely Gabby in the log, Strut, Topus, and that crab. I will admit that I eventually started getting lazy with drawing the characters :/
A bit of Ada's storyline
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0003-3.jpg)
My idea right now is that she was abducted, taken far away and had some of her wing taken off so she couldn't get back (It was also a good bluff to show that she was dead). While unconcious, she was rescued by a Quetzalcoatalous family (who were inspired by the Caecilius Iucundus family in the Cambridge Latin books :) ). I still don't know what happened in her abduction, but so far I know that she was taken and rescued. The patriarch of the family (Talous) is shown with Ada, showing sympathy for her. You'd think it would be pretty devastating for a flier to lose a wing...and for other fliers who have to watch her suffer from it.
And finally, a more cheerful picture, Pterano right about to return to the Valley.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-9.jpg)
I show him a bit older-looking and definitely thinner. In the story this scene will be in, he'll be planning a dramatic entrance and flying in like an impressive young flier...then going against it when he throws his back (Ooooo, old person joke)
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Funny comic. :lol Ptyra and Pterano are very well drawn in the...the little box in the corner (what the heck are those things called again? :bang). I like Ptyra’s expression in the main picture, although her mouth doesn’t extend far back enough. (And what is it with corythosaurs and sand creepers (http://s556.photobucket.com/albums/ss2/Pangaean/CorythosaurusSandCreepers.png)? :p)
The Quetzalcoatlus looks awesome! I suppose the neck could be a little longer, and maybe the beak a little longer and sharper as well, but it looks so good right now that I wouldn’t change it. The feet, by the way, are very well done. ;) And you did a great job making his expression look sympathetic (though his left eyebrow is very pointed). The major thing I would change is his left arm and hand. One of the fingers is crossing over the central finger of the same hand, with looks rather strange. And the claw on that finger is much blunter and more curved than the other one. And the inside of his arm, particularly the crook of his elbow, should look more like his right arm, which looks very good.
As for Ada, her eyelids are a little strange looking, and her crest looks a little longer than usual, but other than that, she’s quite good. I think you did an especially good job on her beak and mouth.
Pterano’s entire head, beak, eyes, crest, and all, look excellent. However, the raised area at the base of his beak (where his nostrils are located) should slope down at the front to merge with the narrower part of his beak (like in the picture of Pterano on the right of your signature), rather than having a square “cliff” sharply dividing it from the rest of the beak. Pterano’s right foot looks very good, though the toes on his right foot seem to be overlapping each other the wrong way, with the outermost toe overlapping the middle toe, and the innermost toe having a tapered tip that makes it look like it is being overlapped by the middle toe. A little editing of the toe outlines should fix the problem. Finally, the waterfall in the background should probably have the same width at the top and bottom.
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Nice pictures. I especially enjoy the comedic first picture. Thing you'd do any more comedic ones? Hope you continue to post pictures and sketches here.
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Seems like someway or another, Corythesaurus are plagued with accidents with sandcrawlers :lol . I certainly plan on re-doing it with a bit more detail to the characters, though :) .
Well, some more sketchyness!
I'm doing a "fan fix" of Stone of Cold Fire...as if that complicates my other fanfictions enough (though, it won't be cannon with them).
A LOT is different, such as Petrie seeing the Stone. While it would be easier for Pterano to get the information of its location that way, he still ends up breaking his friends' trust (still not sure how, though). During the River Chase, however, Pterano rescues Ducky from her fall and abandons Rinkus and Sierra, who go after the Stone with Pterano's absence. Petrie chases after Pterano and Ducky, and then it leads up to a lot of emotional steam being let loose.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Whydidyoulie.jpg)
“You lied to me, Uncle! You like to me and everybody!” Petrie shouted. Pterano shrunk back at his nephew's outburst. “You lie about EVERYTHING! All your stories are lies! Me no nothing about you now!” Petrie covered his eyes and hung his head. Within a moment, he was weeping. “Why, Uncle?” He squeaked. Ducky trotted over to Petrie and hugged him. “Petrie, do not feel too bad. He saved-ed me.” She said. Pterano nodded solemnly and moved closer to the youngsters. “He never saved anybody else.” Petrie sobbed. “Petrie...” Pterano began. “You can't just assume--” Petrie broke away from Ducky. “Littlefoot's grandpa told me what you DID!” He shouted. “He tell me all about the herd...and Cera's mama! The others too!” Petrie noticed Pterano flinch at the mention of the herd. “And it's right that he did.” Pterano said softly.
After splitting with Rinkus and Sierra, his intentions with the stone are FAR different than what he started out with. And there's a lot of development with it after Ducky is supposedly killed when she falls through the hole. The journey to find the Stone is longer too.
Annd more Ptyra storyarch! I'm REALLY not sure how to feel about this one. I LOVE it, except for Pterano's hand (above his head). Other than that, I'm not sure how else to feel. It's the only thing off to me.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/IgnoredWarning.jpg)
This is the morning after Ptyra's hatching, so I guess that makes Grandpa the second thing she's seen.
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Wow! Both of these are really nice! :!
In the first picture, I’d suggest making Ducky’s neck a little longer, and her right wrist more distinct from the rest of her arm. I’d also try to make her beak slightly longer and flatter, with some scalloping around the edges towards the front (a reference would probably be useful). Right now her face looks more like Crash’s, with a rounded snout and protruding nostrils. It probably wouldn’t hurt to have her head a little larger as well. Overall, however, you’ve done quite a good job drawing her.
Petrie should be smaller than Ducky, and his head and beak larger in proportion to his body, but he looks so good that I wouldn’t change him. The fingers on his right hand are rather odd-looking, though.I can’t quite tell what his gesture is supposed to be.
Pterano’s right wing should probably be longer, his mouth could stand to extend further back, and his left hand is a little funny looking, but in my opinion, this is one of the best drawings of him you’ve ever done. The body proportions look spot-on perfect to me (particularly the legs; they look to be just the right length), and his crest and beak are practically flawless. I also love how you’ve done his left wing. And INCREDIBLE job with the feet! :wow
Annd more Ptyra storyarch! I'm REALLY not sure how to feel about this one. I LOVE it, except for Pterano's hand (above his head). Other than that, I'm not sure how else to feel. It's the only thing off to me.
Hmm...what if you made his thumb (which is on the wrong side of his hand anyway) roughly the same length as his other fingers? Maybe it would look better then? The front of Pterano’s beak is a little squared off, but other than that, his entire head (and neck, for that matter), looks fantastic! :yes I like his expression, too. :lol And Ptyra is absolutely adorable. :wub :DD
Tybalt’s head might be a little on the small side compared with the rest of his body, and his left wing looks kind of short. (Or maybe it’s his legs that are too big. :unsure:) By the way, what’s that funny-looking pincer-shaped thingy in the background? Some sort of rock formation?
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Petrie is supposed to be pointing at Pterano, but considering how his hands look, it's an extremely hard task to accomplish.
The rock formation is Tybalt's roost. I guess I completely forget to mention it. I have another design for it elsewhere. It's supposed to look like a beak, but I know I didn't achieve it this time :lol. We're seeing Pterano's roost from another angle, which is why Tybalt's is showing up :)
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:wub GAAAAAASP!
LOOK AT BABY PTYRA!!! She's MORE ADORABLE THAN PETRIE! OHHHH.
SHE'S SO ADORABLE AND CUTE! :D :D
NICE ONE, Ptyra.
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I swear, I had water filling up my tear ducts when I saw baby Ptyra in Pterano's arms.
Nice job on Petrie, I know his tiny stick-sized fingers are hard to position.
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Technically, she's sitting in his hand =P .
Have you ever tried editing your posts? Sometimes it's much more convenient than making a new post :)
Anyway, here's our next sketch :) .
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/MakeYourChoice.jpg)
At this point, Ada and Pterano are in Tybalt's roost. It's also the "big point" in him choosing what would ultimately decide his fate: Begin an ambition to become a leader (Tybalt's offer) or simply avoiding leadership altogether and living a more peaceful life (Ada's offer). We obviously know which one he went for :p . It comes back to bite, especially when his ideas of leadership are based on what Tybalt told him.
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Tybalt somehow looks friendlier than usual in this picture. His crest also looks different; thinner and not as craggy. Overall, though, all of the characters look very good (great job on all the feet! :DD). I particularly love how you drew Ada’s head and expression. You did a good job making Pterano look conflicted as well, though his beak tip is awfully rounded.
Also, something that just occurred to me: when you’re drawing a flyer who is frowning, smiling, or otherwise has a mouthline that is not completely straight, you should change the position of the corner of the beak to match the angle of the mouth. For example, the corner of Pterano’s mouth in this image is downturned, such that it is coming dangerously close to the lower outline of his beak. If the corner of his beak was also downturned, you would not have this problem, and in addition Pterano might look even more expressive.
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Ada looks like she's about to cry. Awwww... :cry
Yep, we all know the path Pterano chose...
note to Ptyra:I promise to cool it on the personal messages. I got too carried away. Sorry. I get so carried away sometimed. I do agree that I need to calm down, chill and relax.
Don't worry. I still like you the same. :yes
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She's actually not about to cry, but BOY does she nag at him later!
Now in color!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/MakeYourChoice-1.png)
I tried to make Tybalt a bit more...Tybalt-ish...and I removed some of the rocks :)
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Just looked at the latest updates on this thread...
I especially liked the comic scene with all of... I forget who's "herd" it is... Ptyra??? Pterano's daughter???
If that four footer who got his head stuck in a log lived in modern times, he'd probably say a phrase a la Three Stooges: HEY! Who tuyrned out the lights!!? :smile
Strut probably just picked up a rock and threw it at the bees' nest... Just for fun... :p
Reminds me of that scene in The Mysterious Tooth Crisis where some of the gang gets chased by a swarm of bees simply because Chomper tried to eat one. :lol
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BTW, how are those fanfics coming along? If you have any new ones up, I'd like to know where they are so I can read them...
As for your fanfic on Deviant Art: I honestly don't remember which part of it I got confused on. I'd have to read it again to get a better idea...
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Yes, it's Ptyra's herd :) . I'm not really sure if you can call it a herd since they're all individuals of a species and there's only seven of them.
I'm having some serious writer's block with my stories. They're very complex and look like it'll take two years to finish off, like Twilight Valley. And then, for some, I'm not sure if I should have tons of flashback sequences to prevent myself from having three stories. Would flashbacks help with exposition?
And most of all, how the heck can I get the characters' personalities straight if the have "plot holes filled by fans", namely Pterano. I'd like to think of him as the D'Artagnan that never became a Captain (In Return of the Musketeers), perhaps because of failure to stop Justine DeWinter (who I REALLY hate :slap ) or something of that sort. Or maybe what he would have been like if La Feme Musketeer had been if it wasn't La Femme Musketeer, but something completely different (Women would never have DREAMED of becoming a Musketeer in the 1600's anyway :rolleyes: )
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I tried to make Tybalt a bit more...Tybalt-ish...and I removed some of the rocks :)
The fact that you can’t see his scar from this side is probably a contributing factor to his apparent shortage of Tybaltishness. :p
I like that you made the sky a sunrise/sunset in the colored picture. In fact, the entire background is pretty nice. However, the two lighter rocks in the distance almost look incomplete compared to the others, due to the difference in shading and the few, spaced out, easily visible cracks.
Yes, it's Ptyra's herd :) . I'm not really sure if you can call it a herd since they're all individuals of a species and there's only seven of them.
Well, the narrator of the first LBT called the gang of five a herd, so I think you can use that term for Ptyra's gang of seven. :p That reminds me: do the flyers in your story refer to groups of themselves as “flocks”, or do they use “herds”?
And most of all, how the heck can I get the characters' personalities straight if the have "plot holes filled by fans", namely Pterano.
Forgive my cluelessness, but what do you mean by that? If you'll excuse the following analogy, are you saying that the canvas representing the LBT characters' personalities as established in the series has already been painted on by other fans who have shared interpretations of the characters and presented them in fanfics, when you'd prefer to create your piece using only your own palette of creativity to flesh out aspects of the characters as needed for the story?
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That's really nice! :D
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And most of all, how the heck can I get the characters' personalities straight if the have "plot holes filled by fans", namely Pterano.
Forgive my cluelessness, but what do you mean by that? If you'll excuse the following analogy, are you saying that the canvas representing the LBT characters' personalities as established in the series has already been painted on by other fans who have shared interpretations of the characters and presented them in fanfics, when you'd prefer to create your piece using only your own palette of creativity to flesh out aspects of the characters as needed for the story?
Ah, yes. I can see how that is confusing. I am trying to come up with my own storyline that fills in plot holes left by the movie, such as WHY Pterano became so attached to the concept of becoming a leader. I explain this with heavy influence from Tybalt during his youth. However, with Ada about, I'm not sure how I can make HER work with the way Pterano was in the seventh movie and making it seem understandable for the way he was, and not some badly sewn together work of a rabid twelve-year-old "fan brat". His relationship with Ada and Ptyra make this EXTREMELY hard though, and I am starting to notice little slivers of Mary Sue in them (ARGH!) and I most certainly want to avoid that!
(And some of my "history" fanfiction looks strangely like the new Star Wars saga, which I DEFINITELY want to avoid, keeping Pterano benign of an LBT-Anakin :lol )
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Well, we've got another sketch up!
This is almost immediately after Pterano officially becomes next in line for becoming leader of the flock...and Ada's disapproval is quite imminent. "Am I in trouble?"
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/AmIinTrouble.jpg)
Another focus on this one was coming up with a size difference between Pterano and Ada...but should she be a bit smaller?
*WARNING* The background may be COMPLETELY different in the colored version.
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I gotta admit, this one gave me a chuckle when I saw it. :lol It brought back memories of the last picture you made of Ada grabbing Pterano’s beak (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=2480&view=findpost&p=9171226) (though obviously the emotional atmosphere is completely different :p). I assume this represents the nagging you mentioned before. :lol
Speaking of beaks, I noticed that Ada’s looks a bit larger than usual here (though it is EXTREMELY well drawn). The same seems to be true of her eyes, especially compared with tthe previous image (again, however, they look very good). Pterano’s beak and expression are very well done (the only thing I’d change about his head is the last bit of his crest, which is a little rounded on the underside and not pointed enough), and the corners of both characters’ mouths match up quite well with the corners of their beaks.
I can’t help but think, though, that seeing as Ada would have to have her wrist twisted around in order to have her thumb behind Pterano’s beak from this perspective, she’s not holding his head at a particularly good angle to force him to make eye contact with her. Also, the way the line of Pterano’s left wing membrane continues on through his hand to form the crease between his thumb and other fingers makes the hand look very strange. I’d suggest redrawing the thumb (it’s too short, anyway, in my opinion). And again Pterano’s wings seem to be meeting to form a “cape” behind his back and legs instead of attaching separately to his sides.
Both Ada and Pterano’s left feet look very good. Ada’s right one, however, is sort of strange-looking. For instance, it looks like her heel is on the inside of her ankle. Plus, the curve delineating the back of her heel should end at the same level as where the front of her leg meets the top of her foot. I’d also suggest putting a small, slightly curved sliver of visible background above the aforementioned foot/leg meeting point, to show that her wing membrane is not connected to her ankle. As for Pterano, there’s nothing really wrong with his right foot, but his leg seems to attach lower to his body and meld into his side. (Actually, Ada has the same problem of the top of her right thigh forming a continuous line with her side.)
As far as the size difference goes, I think it’s a good idea to keep Ada a little smaller than Pterano, but I think what you have here is pretty good. (I can’t remember how Pterano compares to Petrie’s mother in terms of size, but perhaps you could use that as a reference. Somehow, though, I think of Ada as being slightly larger than Petrie’s mother.) If you’ll excuse a scientific digression for the sake of a fun fact, :p real-life female Pteranodon (or, at least, the fossils which are assumed to represent females) were about a third smaller than the males (a 13-foot wingspan compared to 20–23 feet for the males), in addition to having much smaller crests and lacking the mild overbite seen in males.
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OMG I see you In DA you are Bat-snake
really nice!!!!! i love your drawing
I kwow you from LBT fan club DA
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I gotta admit, this one gave me a chuckle when I saw it. It brought back memories of the last picture you made of Ada grabbing Pterano’s beak (though obviously the emotional atmosphere is completely different ).
For me, it invokes a scene where Pterano was about to say something pretty damning, and Ada shuts his beak and says: Not a word... :smile
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^ The idea is that Ada's annoyed with him for taking up Tybalt's offer. She KNOWS it's going to lead him to trouble...and boy was she right XD
Whoop, now it's colored!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/AmIinTrouble-1.png)
Now that I think about it, this could eventually lead to Pterano realizing that Ada is in love with him. And a leetle story to go with it!
"Well, Ada!" Pterano exclaimed proudly. "I've moved myself up in this flock. Seems that your father--" Without warning, Ada clenched Pterano's beak with her hand and pulled it down so that he was looking at her eye to eye. "You, sir, are inconceivable!" She hissed. "I cannot believe what you just did! Do you pay any attention to your own brashness?" Pterano was startled by Ada's sudden burst of irritation. Yet she seemed more upset than annoyed. "Ada..." He mumbled and grasped her wrist. "Is there something wrong?" He asked. "You!" Ada exclaimed. "It's like you're flying into the jaws of a Sharptooth!" She let go of his beak and crossed her arms, looking at the ground. Pterano folded his wings around his shoulders and tilted his head curiously. It WAS his action that was making her upset. He knew she cared about him. Perhaps...yes. That was it. "No need to worry yourself anymore, Ada." Pterano grinned. "I know your little secret now." He said. Ada looked up at him hopefully. "You are in love with me!" Ada smiled. "Well...now that you've figured it out..." She reached for his hand. "Please try not to do anything foolish." She said. "When have I done anything foolish?" Pterano asked sarcastically. Ada sighed. "Now, let me ask you something." She began. "Do you love me?" She asked. Pterano was surprised. He had never thought about it. "Well, I care about you. I admit that when we were children, I was madly infatuated. But now..." Ada looked as though she'd seize his beak again. Pterano sighed and shook his head. "Yes." He said reluctantly.
Something seems a bit off, but I can't put my finger on it. I've wondered how Pterano (especially a young Pterano!) would handle learning that someone was in love with him. I figured he'd be very Logan 5-like, but I'll get to that later.
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Beautiful picture! :DD The sky looks even better here than in the last colored image. And nice job coloring the rocks! :smile (There is, however, a sliver of sand visible behind the breaking waves on the right.)
Pterano’s left hand looks better, as does Ada’s left wing. Pterano’s crest tip and left foot (which was pretty well drawn to begin with) also look great now. :yes Ada’s right foot, on the other hand, isn’t nearly as good as before in a couple of respects: it’s rubbing outlines with her wing membrane, and the base of her innermost toe is greatly narrowed.
There’s an indentation in the underside of Pterano’s lower jaw above his throat pouch. The line of Ada’s lower jaw, too, looks a little shaky. Also, her right eyebrow is colored yellow instead of green. Correct me if I’m wrong, but it looks like you wanted to have part of her upper eyelid visible when you drew the sketch, but in the coloring process it didn’t work out; however, you accidentally gave her eyebrows the color intended for her eyelids. (Personally, I think her expression looks fine without eyelids; maybe even better than if they were visible. :))
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More sketches!
Heeere you go, Jared! Jared flier may be a bit younger than what you wanted but, HECK, it's a cute picture!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/YoungJared.jpg)
I do think that fish is a bit too big for Ptyra's little tummy, though XD
It's about that time of the Great Growing
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Handsome.jpg)
Narcissism is beginning to kick in.
Here's young Pterano and Ada with...guess what?
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/AdaStarSwimmer.jpg)
STAR SWIMMER :D !
And now for Ada and Tybalt
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Iamsorry.jpg)
I thought it would be more interesting for Ada's wing to be damaged that it would heal, but take a VERY long time to do so. Once it does, she returns home to find that Pterano and her egg are gone. Tybalt then explains to her what happened...with extreme truthfulness for a villain character.
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GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSP!
EEEEEEEEEEYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKKK! :wow :wow :wow :D :D
IT'S MEEEE!!!!!!!
Oh, Ptyra, that's ok (I WOULD be smaller than Pterano, anyway)
What you've got there is EXCELLENT! I'm feeding little Ptyra a fish, how adorable!! And Pterano likes me, too. Great!
I WENT BANANAS! When I first saw this!
:yes :yes
BTW, you may color it in (that is, if you want to),
also, which flyer is in that "time of the great growing" drawing. Is that me?
*I did look at my reflection in the water in one of my lbt dreams, and I did remember saying "I am one handsome flyer" I think that's me!! (or is it a young version of Pterano?)
And by all means, you are welcome to use me in ANY of your drawings.
I look like one happy, friendly flyer (you hit a bullseye on my personality)
My heart is pounding with excitement and my mouth muscles are getting sore. I CAN'T STOP SMILING! I'm OVERJOYED!! :lol:
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Ohh...didn't make it clear. It's actually Pterano actually becoming aware of his appearance...and taking it quite well for a pre-teenager.
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I don't think I've ever seen a more animated* reaction to a piece of artwork than yours, Jared. :lol
*I swear by my sideburns, that joke was TOTALLY unintentional. :blink:
I WENT BANANAS! When I first saw this!
When I first glanced at that, I thought you said, "I want bananas!" :lol
Anyway...Ptyra: You did a GREAT job on Flyer-Jared’s head (it’s just a very well-drawn flyer head). His neck, however, looks a little on the thick side. Also,
is he supposed to be on all fours? If he is, then I should point out that his left hand is over his right foot. Both his hands are pretty well drawn, though his right arm and hand look quite a bit stockier and more angular than his left. Maybe it’s just me, but his feet, though well-drawn, also look a little big (Or his he going through an awkward age himself? :p). As for Pterano, he looks...extremely friendly and cheerful, for some reason. His head, too, is very well done :yes And apart from a somewhat strangely-shaped outermost toe, his feet and legs are excellent. His right hand looks pretty good, though I would give it a more defined wrist, and move the “borders” of his claws (especially the top two) further right, so that they don’t match up with the line of his keft arm so perfectly. As for his left hand, I’d change the angles of the creases between his fingers to be more horizontal.
Despite its relative simplicity, I personally consider the second pic to be REALLY good. :wow Pterano’s head and expression, especially, are incredible. (His left foot is pretty darn good, too. :yes) You did very well making him look youthful (and a little vain :p). His right lower leg is a little shorter and thicker (at the top) than his left, and his toes are of somewhat variable sizes and shapes, but besides that, incredible as it may seem, I really can’t come up with much to criticize. :p
Pterano looks even younger in the picture with Ada (who looks to be giving him a lesson in Marine Biology :p). Both of them look excellent; again, their heads in particular. Their expressions are so well done that you can almost figure out what’s going on in the scene by them alone. To me, anyway, Ada looks to know more about the sea creatures she is looking at than Pterano, and is fascinated with them, while Pterano seems maybe a bit hesitant (I might even say squeamish), but also curious. I also love how you showed their knees sticking up underneath their wing membranes. And the background is nice, too.
I do notice that Ada’s hands are much larger than Pterano’s, and while her left foot looks great, her right one is disproportionately large. :blink: Pterano’s feet are also a tad asymmetrical, though I think his hands look better than Ada’s.
The picture as a whole is a beautiful little (proto-romantic?) moment between Pterano and Ada, and I have to say it’s one of my favorite drawings you’ve ever done of them as youngsters. :yes (Also, why do I get the feeling that Pterano’s about to receive a painful introduction to the creature coming up on his right? :lol)
I thought it would be more interesting for Ada's wing to be damaged that it would heal, but take a VERY long time to do so. Once it does, she returns home to find that Pterano and her egg are gone. Tybalt then explains to her what happened...with extreme truthfulness for a villain character.
First you were going to have Ada die...then she was going to survive but be crippled and unable to fly...now she survives AND gets better. :unsure: I hope I don't sound like I'm infringing on your creativity, but I personally liked the darker and more bittersweet versions better. (Admittedly, it DOES solve the problem of how Ada gets to the Great Valley with a severely torn wing.) If you do end up taking this route, I'd suggest at least leaving Ada with a scar on her wing (Boy do I sound morbid :blink: :rolleyes).
Anyway, the picture: Tybalt looks very old in it to me, for some reason. :confused How long is this supposed to take place after Pterano leaves? Both he and Ada are extremely well-drawn; outstanding feet (again, that was accidental! :wow) are becoming the norm for your artwork. The only things on Tybalt for which I can suggest improvement are his right lower leg (thicker than the left) andófar more significantlyóhis left hand; look at the part where the back of his hand diverges from his wrist, in relation to his (rather angular) thumb, and you should see what I’m talking about. As for Ada, the outlines of her eyelids and lower jaw look a bit wrinkly, and like I said, there should be some indicator that she was severely injured, but other than that she looks excellent. (If you intended for her expression to be one of shock and/or concern, you succeeded magnificently. :yes)
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As I write, I do have concepts that change...quite heavily in some cases, like Ada's "dead or alive?" storyline. In a prior version, when her wing was heavily damaged, she flew between four much bigger fliers (a family of Quetzalquoatolus), almost so she was "trapped" in an air vacuum that kept her a float. It probably wouldn't work, but then again, it IS an LBT universe where one Quetzalquoatalus carried THREE young dinosaurs a top its back :lol ! It is good to make some changes to stories, even if they are extremely dramatic. It shows that you're at least still thinking about the story.
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I guess it'll be safe for now to show some non-LBT art until I decide if I REALLY want to make another art thread for non LBT stuff.
As a kid, there were two movies I remember "playing along" with: Land Before Time VII, where I was ALWAYS Pterano and the female characters and The Brave Little Toaster: To the Rescue, where I was ALWAYS Lampy, Blanket, and Maisey the cat. Gawwwd, I LOVED Lampy X3 . I still do...kinda like with Pterano. I even find some of his changes in behavior admirable...though Lampy's was a bit "shocking" (Pun both intended AND unintended). I recently watched all three of them. I only saw the original a few times, and I'm not sure if I ever saw the third. If I did, all I remember was Lampy giving the Little Master his bottle while they were on Mars. I said "Wait, maybe I HAVE seen this one?"
Anyway, upon re-watching it, I have come to love Radio, as well as gained more for Lampy. I've mostly done sketches for it, but here's what I've done.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0003-4.jpg)
Left to right, we have Lampy and Radio doing some kind of dance. I eventually decided on "Puttin' on the Ritz" XD . Then, we have an OC, who does not have a name or official design. She is a "mish mash" though, and is supposed to be a lamp-like nightlight. And there were some issues with her "coming to life", so they come up with a solution (thanks to ol' Wittgenstein), and Radio's reaction is...well, Radio-like. It would be hilarious if he quoted Frankenstein (He's already done Moby Dick...and many others).
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-6.jpg)
Radio dancing solo, Lampy's "electrical" personality 180, a scene from my fan fiction in which Lampy personally welcomes Radio back from "Silicon Heaven" (whoever gets the reference gets a greaaaaaaaat big internet cookie!), and Radio having Lamp-envy toward a flashlight who just became friends with Lampy...and the Lamp disapproving.
And finally, some fan fiction sketches.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-10.jpg)
The one on the left and the one in the middle can be read here (http://bat-snake.deviantart.com/art/Hope-is-a-Glow-161939670), and an older version of Lampy hugging Radio can be found here (http://bat-snake.deviantart.com/art/Glows-and-Radio-Waves-162099075)
It's not LampyXRadio slash if you don't want it to :p . With these particular characters, I like'd like to "bend" my fan stuff so that it suits whatever fan thinks =P . As for me, I don't care either way. I think that they become close buddies as they grow on each other (and they'd certainly have to get along in the cabin SOMETIMES). I honestly think they'd go crazier without each other than WITH each other :lol
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I'm afraid I've never seen The Brave Little Toaster, so I don't think I can offer much helpful feedback on these pictures. :oops Still, they look good, especially the lamp's expressions. :yes (I particularly like his reaction to the Frankenstein joke. :lol)
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Nice pictures of TBLT here. :yes
Although i believe lamp's nose looks differently in the movies.
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I'm afraid I've never seen The Brave Little Toaster, so I don't think I can offer much helpful feedback on these pictures. :oops Still, they look good, especially the lamp's expressions. :yes (I particularly like his reaction to the Frankenstein joke. :lol)
I may just have to recommend it. It's an original LBT-era movie...and it's REALLY good. The second isn't quite as good, but it's a very worthy sequel. The third? It's only good if you want a movie to laugh at. Other than that...bleh. They talk at the same time too much in that one. But the first is wonderful! Youtube doesn't have the first one because the song "Tutti Fruity" (the Little Richard one) is copyrighted by that company we all hate (the other one than Viacom). But it's on Megavideo (http://www.megavideo.com/?v=RW4JBSI0). Of course, you can only watch the first 72 minutes, but the rest is on Youtube :) .
Most of the time I drew Lampy without a reference, which is why his snout came out that way :/
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Great Brave Little Toaster drawings. I've seen the first movie often. Never seen any of the sequels though. So you made an oc also? Interesting.
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At this point, I have several! Which gets me to remembering some other BLTs...
(All of these are old as far as my development goes)
This was the very first I drew (which is why Lampy is very sloppy on the two on the left). The two characters with Lampy and Radio are Dromio and Thisbe, characters of my very own :)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-13.jpg)
Dromio is not pleased :/
Trivia: John Lasseter and many other Pixar folk worked on the Brave Little Toaster. This means that THREE personified lamps came from them. It would be quite an awesome meeting
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-8.jpg)
Lampy, meet Luxo Jr.
Quintus the Savannah Cat (http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pictures-of-cats.org/images/savannah-cat-a1-1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pictures-of-cats.org/savannah-cat.html&usg=__u_iGv1noCCY9yZ_NwcEWULrO4ao=&h=266&w=400&sz=25&hl=en&start=2&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=6SWp-q8RRluolM:&tbnh=82&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3DSavannah%2Bcat%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26tbs%3Disch:1) and the Flashlight
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-12.jpg)
I need to work on that cat :/
Introducing yet another character, an El Camino :)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-7.jpg)
Initially, this was a save-the-Radio scene, but I have now decided that Radio is controlling the pedals :)
And two more: A gramophone (that can only play Habernera from Carmen, and Pastoral Symphony later), and a 50's karaoke machine (which looks nothing like a karaoke machine)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-11.jpg)
This is the "ending scene" that has a reprise of Little Richard's Tutti Fruity X3 . Lampy and Radio are having a dance solo, but eventually Radio's going to lose it from having so many lights in his face. Oh look, the Luxos have made a cameo!
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Hello:
What Ireally like is the expression of one of you characters (Dromio and Thisbe) when the song is there and he is like getting angry :smile .
Nice pics you have here!
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Well done drawings. I like the expressions on their faces, instead of them being just static or stiff characters.
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Wow Ptyra, all of these are just awesome. Yeah I've been checking them a while now, but keep forgetting to actually comment, bad me.
Anyway, they're great! I wish I could draw *sigh*
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Thanks, folks! Well, I've got another LBT color (somewhat), and three more BLT.
Here's the LBT
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/WhatISthisfeeling.png)
I was too lazy to do a background, but I do like the black with the lighting. I was trying to depict an "epiphany" scene =P
And now for the BLTs
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/PuttinontheRitz.png)
Have you seen the well-to-do up and down on Park Avenue?
Something a bit more emotional
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/KeepGlowing.png)
Poor Lampeh :(
And a sketch pile
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/BLTSketches1.jpg)
While most speak for themselves, the one on the left needs some SERIOUS explaining. I had a dream about something like that happening, but it was VERY unclear about what was going on. All I remember was Radio making some "good news, bad news" comment about someone not being available on the radio waves and everyone present being upset by it (I only remember Lampy's presence, though).
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There you are Pterano. (I missed you) after a near 3 week absence. I was getting worried.
Ptyra, I feel very relieved and happy to finally see a new Pterano drawing (First one since April 17th) when you posted the one of me feeding little Ptyra a fish, and Pterano with a great smile of approval behind me. :)
My favorite of the Lampy & Radio drawings is "Puttin' on the Ritz." That's a great one.
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Thanks for posting more of your great artwork. I'm sure we all hope to see more. I know I do.
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Well, I've got another LBT, and another BLT :D
I honestly did not feel like doing a background...on top of having some little allergy issues x__x
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Handsome-1.png)
But, I'm pleased with it. I might do a background later...maybe during my summer break...
Now one with a background that I'm incredibly proud of. It's my first picture in AGES to be made from scratch on the tablet.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Lesson.png)
My idea for the little lamp is that the Master's second child wanted a lamp nightlight, and they actually had to MAKE a teensy little lamp. Unfortunately, it took quite some time to "wake her up" when she was completed, and when she finally was, it was almost like she was literally a child, not knowing a lot about the world, leaving her to be taught be the Toaster and his friends...primarily Lampy, who played the biggest part in bringing her to life.
Annnd it's a lesson on the creation of the light bulb :nyah . The only problem is that she needs a really redundant name, but I can't think of one.
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AUGH!!! I’m so sorry for not posting feedback in this thread for so long! :bang :bang :bang Obviously, I’ve got a lot of catching up to do. The good news is, I did get around to watching The Brave Little Toaster, so I think I can offer more helpful feedback on all the fanart you’ve done for that movie lately.
I’m going to post my reviews in increments, based on the date on which you posted each batch of artwork.
May 3:
Is Thisbe supposed to be a bat of some kind? I really can’t tell what that amorphous, trailing tail-like thing behind her is supposed to be. I’m having even more trouble telling what Dromio is. :confused
Loved the lamp crossover picture. :lol Who’s the third personified lamp you were talking about?
I’ve always found cats to be hard to draw, but I think you did a pretty good job with Quintus. If you’re looking to improve, maybe you could make his neck less vertical, and give him more of a distinct muzzle, to keep his face from appearing too flat. Also, try to keep his front and hind paws on the same level (this is something I have a lot of trouble with whenever I draw quadrupeds); otherwise it looks like he’s either standing on an incline or half of him is defying gravity. :p By the way, why a savannah cat, just out of curiosity? :)
I also think you did a good job on the personified flashlight. I could definitely imagine seeing one of those in a Brave Little Toaster movie. :yes My only question is, how would she move around? I’d imagine rolling on her side would be dizzying, and not very efficient because she’d tend to go in circles, :lol so maybe hopping, or sort of rocking from side to side? It also occurs to me that the poor flashlight’s at a bit of a functional disadvantage, seeing as she can’t really use her light when she’s standing normally. Is she good at standing upside-down, or falling over without injury and getting back up? :idea :lol
Oh, wait. Maybe the next picture answers my question. Is that a new design of the flashlight? Looks like you’ve given her a head design that’s more like Lampy’s, so she can stand on her other end (or maybe lie on her side) and still use her light. I’m still curious as to how she moves around, though.
The picture with the car is another of my favorite non-LBT pictures you’ve done. You did a great job giving the characters panicked expressions, especially Lampy and Quintus. And the car. I love the car. :lol He(?) looks like he’s(?) thinking, “I’m going to crash . . . I’m going to crash . . .” :lol Meanwhile, Lampy looks like he’s asking Quintus the question everyone else looks to be thinking: something like, “Have you ever been to driving school?” Quintus looks understandably reluctant to answer. :lol
I can’t make out a lot of detail on the gramophone, but I think the horn looks good, especially in terms of shape. The . . . whatever the gramophone is standing on, however, is kind of warped-looking, like a cube that leaned forward and twisted slightly to the left. Quintus, Toaster, and the Luxos (I love the eyes you added to them) look pretty good, but the vacuum cleaner’s face is sort of odd-looking. I do like the design of the karaoke machine; looks like something else that could come out of canon BLT. The bookshelves (if that’s what they’re supposed to be) look nice as well, though their inner sides and some of their shelves are a little slanty.
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Thisbe and Dromio are OCs of mine, who are one of those "Chimera experiment" kinds of things. Thisbe is an experimental mix between various bats and snakes (a very horrible disadvantage, considering that she can neither fly nor move her body well). Dromio is Lapine, snake, hedgehog, and some bird (in this version. I decided to remove his wings entirely recently).
The shelves are supposed to be display shelves that everyone is off of at the moment.
And I've always wondered how Flashlight moved, myself XD . I guess someone just carries her most of the time.
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May 6:
Are you eventually going to color the whole scene with teenage Pterano and Ada? I thought the background in the sketch looked really good. (And what about the crab that looked like it was about to painfully dull Pterano’s enthusiasm for marine biology? :lol)
Background (or lack thereof) aside, I think the colored image turned out really well. :yes Pterano’s hands and feet look remarkably good (Ada’s aren’t bad either, though her right foot looks bigger than her left, and her fingers apart from her thumb are kind of long). You also did a great job delineating their knees underneath their wing membranes. Both of their heads look very good, though I notice Pterano’s lower beak is shorter than Ada’s (On the other hand, the tip of Ada’s lower beak looks a bit projecting to me). The most obtrusive detail to me, however, is Ada’s eye. It looks too narrow relative to its height, and I feel like the yellow area underneath (her lower eyelid?) extends a bit too far horizontally (In the original sketch it only went about halfway past her pupil). To me, Ada’s eye makes her look a lot older than she’s intended to be in this picture.
I like the colors and texture on the sea star, but I notice that its lower two arms do not intersect at an inverted point like the others, but are connected by an almost horizontal line. There’s also a tiny wedge of Ada’s wing membrane visible above the star’s left (observer’s left) lower arm that is miscolored the same as her stomach.
The colored version of Lampy and Radio “Puttin’ on the Ritz” looks fantastic. I love it that you put a spotlight in (Is that Flashlight’s work? :p). Lampy’s cane and some of the . . . horizontal bar thingies on Radio could be straighter, but the hats (especially Radio’s) and Radio’s cane look next to perfect, and you did an incredible job of drawing their cords wrapped around their canes. :wow (Say, what exactly ARE their canes, anyway?) I like how you did Lampy’s “foot”, too. (He looks good in that hat, by the way. :lol) Lampy’s snout is sort of short, but still well drawn (and if this was a drawing of Lampy you made without a reference, then he’s AMAZING :wow).
The lower side of the light beam in the third picture isn’t quite realistically straight, in my opinion, but the light effect looks AWESOME. :wow This was also a very effectively done emotional scene. Even having not seen The Brave Little Toaster when you posted the sketch, and with Lampy’s expression not being visible, the somber tone of the scene was apparent to me. Radio is also very well drawn (though I notice that his antenna is missing), and I like the touch (pun completely unintended) of Lampy laying his plug on Radio emotionally.
I can’t come up with much to say for the sketch pile, except that the characters are very well done overall (Blanket particularly stands out as looking almost exactly as I recall from the movie). Lampy’s snout still looks a bit truncated in some of these, but his cord and “foot”, for the most part, are very good. By the way, I notice that Radio looks a lot sadder with the arrow on his clock pointing downwards.
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Wow. I had never noticed that Radio's antenna was missing :o ! Thanks for pointing that out.
I just remembered that I finished the picture of Ada and her father a long time ago. So here it is.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Iamsorry-1.png)
The background's not quite as good as it usually is, but I am rather pleased with how it turned out. I just hope Tybalt looks grizzled enough...
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Ah.... this is the Ada & Tybalt you posted back on April 17th, colorized. The "shine" on Tybalt's eye looks a little strange to me, though.
But Ada turned out beautiful all over. Once again, the only thing I didn't like is Tybalt's eye shine, but other than that, this picture is excellent.
Nice one!
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Wow. I had never noticed that Radio's antenna was missing :o ! Thanks for pointing that out.
You're welcome. :)
Ooh, another picture! :o No matter; I'll just review it in this post, since I've only got two others besides. ;)
May 19:
If you recall, I had a very hard time coming up with things to criticize about the original sketch of this picture of Pterano. The colored version, too, is excellent. :yes His headóbeak, eyes, crest, mouth, and allóis fantastic. His right wing, I daresay, looks even better than in the sketch. There’s sort of a sharp angle on the underside of his left hand, but other than that I think it’s greatly improved from before. (Is it just me, or do his feet look better, too?) However, I think you made the outline of his left arm and wing too thick. The most notable consequence of this is that his lower beak, which should be overlapping his shoulder, is instead overlapped by the thick outline, and thus appears to be BEHIND his shoulder.
You’re right to be proud of the background for the picture of Lampy and the nightlight; it IS good! :! :wow I especially like the wallpaper (both the color and the pattern). The wooden floor looks nice, too.
Depending on the religiousness of the appliances, I suppose that book would be their equivalent of either the Bible or The Origin of Species. :p
The glaring problem I see with the book, however, is that while we are looking at it spread open from such an angle that the top edges of the pages and covers form a “V”,the bottom edges of the covers are almost completely horizontal. They should be slanted upward as well. Additionally, the angle of the words in the title isn’t quite aligned with the angle of the cover. Apart from those details, the book looks pretty good.. :yes
Overall, Lampy (and what we can see of the nightlight) is very well drawn. I particularly like the way you did his expression, the light beam, and the bends in his neck. Nice shading on his neck as well. My one complaint is the cord, which looks to be too thick (and seems to change in thickness along its length) and ends in a rather shapeless-looking plug.
May 31:
Ada and Tybalt turned out really good here, I think. The legs and feet of both characters are very well drawn (though Tybalt’s right shin looks shorter and thicker than his left), as are their arms, hands, wings, torsos, necks, heads . . . heck, EVERYTHING about them looks pretty darn great! :wow
I really thought that Tybalt looked a lot older in this pic. The notch in his beak seems to have developed a crack, and his eyes look very wrinkled and droopy (his eye may be my favorite part of how you drew him here). Perhaps you could add a few nicks and little holes along the edge of his wing membrane (think Swooper from “The Hermit of Black Rock”) if you wanted to make him look even more aged. One thing I would point out is that in earlier pictures (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=2480&view=findpost&p=9175520), his beak was much more jagged-looking. In addition, I would suggest making the dents and chips in his crest more angular, to give it a more broken and craggy appearance. Right now the lines are a little smooth and squiggly. (I also think the design of his scar looks better in the picture I linked to.)
Personally, I think you should have Ada’s scar be even more extensive than it is in thic picture. You didn’t mention how long this scene takes place after Pterano’s departure, but since pterosaur wings probably healed quite quickly from injuries, it would take a very large wound to keep Ada from returning for an extremely long period (Of course, she’d probably have to spend time getting used to flying with her scarred wing, and even then, I don’t imagine she’d be as capable a flyer as before). The scar looks good, though. :yes
I like how the sky and water look in this image, and the shapes and colors of the rocks aren’t bad; however, the lines on the rocks (the background ones, at least) are too dark and distinct in my opinion. Generally, the cracks, ridges, concavities, and convexities in rocks aren’t very obvious, from close up or from a distance, so if you want to delineate them, you shouldn’t make them too obvious. The rock Tybalt and Ada are standing on looks much better (though it does blend with the water a little around the edges).
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Hm. I think I'll show you guys some art from when I was in fifth and sixth grade...twelve and thirteen.
In fifth grade, I became an ENORMOUS "A Bug's Life" fan (it's kicking back into gear, I think XD). This is a character I created at that time.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-9.jpg)
Oh, ESMERALDA! Boy, what a WEIRD character she was! I'm gonna...copy from my deviantart.
I LOVED Manny and Gypsy. Heck, I still do. They're probably the ONLY inter-species relationship I like. Probably because it's intentional...and there to start with (Unlike that...Melvin and Glory thing in the second Madagascar. I HATE that >____< ). So, when I was in elementary school, I created their son and daughter, Esmeralda and Archimedes. They were sword fighters in the circus (inspired by the fact that my best friend was fencing at the time, and I thought it was really cool), and Esmeralda was frequently the main character of my fanfictions. I did one that was based on her birth...that was completely "wat?". I don't remember the origin of the burn on her ruff, but the same indecent resulted in the "bandages". I think the broken antenna was from an accident she had in fighting with her brother
At this point, I've decided to remove the twins from the picture, and replaced them with a baby moth caterpillar that Manny and Gypsy adopt...but I kept the name Archimedes. As of today, I have decided that Esmeralda is a DRAGONFLY with an identical twin sister named Constance.
Here's a character from the story about Esmeralda and Archimedes birth
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-14.jpg)
I wrote the ENTIRE story in a journal...and I threw it away a while back (D'OH!!!). But I remember Basil a little bit. The "main" circus troupe was in a dead forest, looking for help to repair the wagon (???). Gypsy became unconscious when some dead wood fell on her (???), and this dude comes along and says "Hey, there's one tree still living! You can get help there!" And he takes them there. He came back at the very end when they were leaving.
Then some "Great Mouse Detective" fanart.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0007-1.jpg)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0004-1.jpg)
Becaaaause apparantly ferrets are the same size as Preying Mantises and British bats have ginormous ears :blink: .
This is what you get when you combine Disney's version of "Robin Hood" with "A Christmas Story"
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0003-5.jpg)
Run, Hiss! RUN! He's in bunny pajamas and he's ANGRY!
And now, for an old/new. Combining my three favorite Michael York characters into one silly scenario.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0009-1.jpg)
Thisbe and her magic Mary Poppins bag :rolleyes: . You saw her on her "date" that was ruined (for her beau) by Radio and Lampy. And there's a "Runner" hiding in the back there. TO SANCTUARY!!!
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Ptyra, I will admit that you drew far far better than I could when I was in 5th grade. (The drawings I did in 5th grade looked like Kindergartner & 1st grade drawings) but that was probably because I didn't draw slowly and very carefully.
Pterano wielding a sword like a musketeer, scaring a runner. :yes that one I like.
I am very pleased to see a new Pterano drawing, too. :D
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Glad to see you’ve posted again. Haven’t seen any new art here for a while. :)
Well, strictly speaking, not all the art is “new”, :p but it’s still great to see it. And while I’ll save my excruciatingly nitpicky feedback for the more recent work, :p I have to say that the older pictures ARE pretty good. I’m especially impressed by how detailed the character in the first one is. :yes
Becaaaause apparantly ferrets are the same size as Preying Mantises and British bats have ginormous ears :blink: .
Well, I can't argue that that's one tiny ferret, :o but this (http://www.ninesprings.net/graphics/mammalsamphibiansandreptiles.htm/brownlong-earedbat.jpg) little cutie, the brown long-eared bat (Plecotus auritus), IS one of Britain's commonest bats. [[info] (http://www.jwaller.co.uk/batgroup/brown_longeared.asp)
Who’s that chasing the snake in the second-to-last picture? (The face reminded me of Dromio’s, but the body’s the wrong shape.) Looks almost like an anthropomorphic bunny wearing a bunny suit with bunny-slipper feet :p)
I love the picture of Musketeer Pterano :lol: (I can just imagine him telling his nephews and nieces about how he swashbuckled a sharptooth :lol). His hands are REALLY well done (awesome job showing his fingers wrapped around the sword handle :wow); in fact, his arms and wings overall look terrific. :yes His beak, head, and crest are also positively outstanding, the only significant flaw being that his eye is too far forward.
Pterano’s right leg looks excellent apart from the blunt toes (I particularly like the flexion wrinkles), but his left leg, by comparison, isn’t quite up to snuff. The shin is shorter, leading to the foot being higher than the left one (when it should be at the same level or lower), and the pose of the leg overall doesn’t look as dynamic as that of the other one, almost like it’s dangling or dragging behind Pterano, rather than planted firmly against the ground. Also, his neck somehow looks too small (a little shorter and narrower than it ought to be).
Who’s the dinosaur Pterano is threatening with the sword? Is that your Corythosaurus OC? I’m afraid there’s not much I can comment on, seeing as so little of him is visible, :p but his left eye is a bit misshapen-looking, slightly lower than his right eye and sticking out rather far. By the way, I might suggest giving him a slightly longer beak, possibly curving downward to a point at the tip (Even a hatchling Corythosaurus seen briefly at the end of LBT VI had these features). Otherwise it looks more like a Corythosaurus from the “Dink” series.
I notice that Thisbe’s tail is sort of paddle-shaped at the end. Is she part sea snake, or is there another reason for that? By the way, is it just me, or are Thisbe’s wings asymmetrical? :huh: It looks like the left wing has two supporting spars, while the right has only one.
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The ones in the second to last picture are Sir Hiss and Prince John from the Disney film of "Robin Hood"
The Corythesaurus is just a random one that just happened to be in a wee bit of trouble at the time :p . Yes, Thisbe is part sea snake. I'm still trying to work out the fractions, but so far it's 1/3 snake, 1/3 bat, and I'm trying to work out the last 1/3 . I guess the lack of a spar on her wing was because of the way I positioned it. The other one is behind her.
And here's a completely made from scratch picture of one of my all-time favorite books, Hope for the Flowers
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/HopeFortheFlowers.png)
At this point, it's REALLY hard to find, due to it being published in 1968. The only reason why I have it is because it was my mom's :DD . The story is about two caterpillars, Stripe and Yellow, who are trying to find out if there is more to life than theirs. It's a VERY bittersweet story. One of the reasons why I like it is because it seems like a children's book, but it has some elements like that a butterfly can love in such a way that makes new life "and is better than all the hugging caterpillars can do". So, I guess it's also a story about understanding love and how powerful it can be. It's an extremely sweet book, and I would highly recommend reading it if you can get your hands on a copy :) .
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Nice to see more pictures from you. Lots of cute characters you've drawn.
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LMAO at the Prince John & Sir Hiss drawing :spit :spit :spit :spit!
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Wow! those are awesome.
Would you mind if I tried to draw your flyer character Ptyra?
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Cute caterpillars. :DD Actually, it’s a pretty nice fancover overall. The grass looks great, even though it’s sort of blurry towards the base in some areas. I like the title font you used, too.
By the way, is the fuzz around Yellow’s left eye intended to resemble eyelashes? (Clever idea, though to be perfectly honest I think it makes her look kind of sad.) I ask because there isn’t much corresponding fuzz visible around the other eye, mainly because of the outline of the body. I’d personally suggest thinner body outlines for both caterpillars (though you did do a very good job “zigzagging” them to make them look fuzzy :yes).
You’ve piqued my interest in seeing that book (That’s at least the third or fourth time you’ve influenced me to try something, either intentionally or unintentionally :p). Unfortunately, it looks like the public library system in my town doesn’t carry the book, but I’ll be on the lookout for it. ;)
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Wow! those are awesome.
Would you mind if I tried to draw your flyer character Ptyra?
Sure :D !
Pangaea, like I said, it would be an extremely hard book to find. But you can find it on Amazon for a pretty good price :) . Like this one (http://www.amazon.com/Hope-Flowers-Trina-Paulus/dp/0809182491/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1277686667&sr=8-1)
Ha, mine doesn't have the dust cover. I must say it's pretty cool!
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^ Thanks for the link! I've already ordered it. ;)
Can we expect to see more art in this thread anytime soon? (No rush, just curious. :angel)
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That's great! I was actually pretty delighted to find it at such a nice price. I hope you'll like the book. It's really sweet <3
I've been having some trouble drawing some Bug's Life related art that I might consider putting up here. I might as well just try my "own depiction" of the characters, though.
For your amusement, here's one of my own characters on deviantART
General Letrice (http://bat-snake.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2rjnib)
I'd prefer NOT to upload her on Photobucket, because I'd rather NOT have more than one image of her "buzzing around" (Ha. Pun). Plus, she's part of a "top secret" storyline of mine that I REALLY want to keep quiet online.
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Wow. Pretty good. :yes Neat how she’s wearing a chain of leaves(?) like an ammunition belt. I’m assuming her wings (which I couldn’t find at first) are those orangey blurs in the background. Just curious: why does she have spots? (I admit I thought she was a beetle at first, due to the spots and the apparent lack of wings. :oops Then I noticed the stinger.)
Wait . . . would you rather I not talk or ask about the character so that you can maintain secrecy? :unsure:
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The chain of leaves is like a sash or something...I don't know what it's called. I needed some way for her to be associated with high military power and at the time, it was all I could come up with. Her design was slightly based off of the wasp couple in "Antz" (fwahaha, I love those two XD ). I guess I wasn't entirely aiming for "spots". Chip and Muffy both had a bit of "spottiness" with their stripes, probably as an individuality thing. The sash was also inspired by the one General Mandible wears in "Antz".
These kinds of things are okay to talk about, just not the plot of the story that Letrice is involved in :)
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The chain of leaves is like a sash or something...I don't know what it's called.
Yeah, me neither; all I could think of was the thing Chewbacca wears, :p which I thought was called an ammunition belt. Probably just my memory getting terms confused again. :rolleyes
These kinds of things are okay to talk about, just not the plot of the story that Letrice is involved in :)
Oh, okay. In that case, how'd you come up with the name “Letrice”? Also, how is it pronounced? (My first thought when I read the name was that it sounded a lot like “lettuce”, :slap but now I'm guessing that one or more of the vowels is long.)
By the way, I like the “spottiness”, actually. :smile
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I pronounce it Lay-tress. It's a variation of the name "Latrice", which is a version of Patricia, meaning "noble; partition". In a sense, Letrice is pretty close to being a noble, and she practically rules the hive, or at least some of it, since the only one higher than her is the "royal family", the Foundress and her heirs. She is also noble in the personality sense, despite being incredibly flustered and slightly depressed. There's quite a bit of back story to that, though, so I'll be keeping hush-hush.
Anyway, I have done a bit of artwork for A Bug's Life recently, and these are the only two pictures I have created.
There's a huge backstory to this character, Archimedes. This is his second version, where he is a caterpillar (moth).
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Archimedes.png)
A little magician is on the rise :p
I have decided now that Archimedes is a lacewing, and I did his adult version.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/LacewingArchemedes.png)
He looks like that beetle from "Ant Bully" :/
"Hiiii! What's YOUR name!"
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It’s A Bug’s Life’s tribute to “The Sorceror’s Apprentice”! :lol
GREAT picture. I love it how the hat is covering his eyes. :lol Better look out when he does a magic trick; he won’t know which direction he’s casting the spell. :p I like his colors, too. And you drew the hat really well.
I have to say, I don’t like Archimedes’ adult form as much. Maybe it’s the disconcerting fact that he only has four limbs (That’s something that always bothered me about the insects from A Bug’s Life). His face also isn’t as cute or as funny-looking as that of his larval form. He looks like he has a completely different personality.
On the plus side, I do like the “highlighting” you put around his joints, and the fact that you tried to make his wings look “lacy” (though the texture might not need to be nearly so fine). And I REALLY like the gravel texture you did for the ground. :yes I might suggest a few changes to Archimedes’ design, like giving his legs similar proportions to his arms (right now they look too skinny, especially around his right knee), and changing his right foot to look more like his left (which looks EXCELLENT). In addition, his abdomen almost resembles a wasp’s; lacewings have a more cylindrical abdomen that doesn’t taper much except at the very end, and is rather blunt. And you might want to consider making his green coloration even brighter.
Now, two wholly unrelated comments: :p
ï I got my copy of Hope for the Flowers in the mail the other day. :smile Haven’t read it yet, but I hope to do so very soon. ;)
ï I love your new award banner! :DD That was my favorite of the banner options for the Fanart Award.
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I REALLY hope you enjoy/enjoyed the book :D !
I've decided to create my own Dinotopia storyline (Yes, I HAVE read the original book by James Gurney...just not the other three, but I'd like to XD ). My storyline is about a young woman who does NOT take easily to crashing on Dinotopia, due to being extremely clingy to her family, and has a health condition that couldn't handle the veganistic lifestyle of the Dinotopians. It takes place around the Scott family's time in Dinotopia.
The main dinosaur she befriends is a Stenoychosaurus, whose name spelling I have not decided on yet, but is pronounced as "Craow". He eventually does develop the "life partner" relationship with the main character of the story.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-15.jpg)
I guess once I color him I could give more details...
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Good picture.
But, what is that he his holding?
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A scroll :)
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I now have another Dinotopia-based fanart.
A heavily improved Krau going to some kind of festival with his human partner Penny.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-16.jpg)
Penny's character page (http://bat-snake.deviantart.com/#/d2tvjzf)
Krau's character page (http://bat-snake.deviantart.com/#/d2tx9zw)
I need to make some changes to Krau's markings :/
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Seeing as the you’ve already made just about all of the changes I was going to suggest for the earlier picture of Krau (is that how you’re going to be spelling his name?) in the new picture, I’ll just pass over the first one, if it’s okay with you.
The second picture is very good. You did some incredible detail on the costumes. :wow I really like how you did Krau’s expression, too. He looks toothy, but still friendly. :smile His feet and arms are very well done, too, though the upper part of his left arm (the one on Penny’s shoulder) is extremely thick compared to his forearm (which looks outstanding). Also, is his right palm supposed to be facing forward or backward? If forward, then his thumb is on the wrong side. Either way, his right arm looks to be in a very odd position for a dinosaur, in my opinion. By the way, I don’t remember how many fingers the Stenonychosaurus (maybe you already knew this, but they’re actually the same dinosaur as Troodon) in the Dinotopia miniseries had, but the real-life version had only three.
I’m hopeless when it comes to drawing humans, but I’d say you did a pretty good job with Penny. :yes I don’t remember seeing you do a picture of a human before :! (though if experience has taught me anything, it’s that I have a very faulty memory :p). Her shoes are a little funny-looking to me, though; very triangular.
I admit that when I first glanced at the picture, I thought that Krau was wearing both of the big frilly things, one on each side of his body, and that they, along with the one on his tail, constituted some kind of Daedalus/Icarus-style flying equipment. Basically, I thought that he was preparing to test out some sort of gliding device (destined, of course, for comedic disaster), and was assuring Penny (who looked nervous to me) that nothing could go wrong. :lol (The skybax gliders and Dragoncopter from the Dinotopia books probably influenced my interpretaton.)
I’m eager to see this picture colored. :DD
P.S. I did get around to reading Hope for the Flowers, and found it to be quite good. :yes It was very deep; very allegorical. I was also impressed by the pictures, particularly in how accurately drawn the caterpillars and butterflies were; that the artist didn’t cartoonize, simplify, or anthropomorphize them to make them appealing (nor did she need to). Thanks again for introducing me to this book. :)
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I like you're drawing. The attention to detail is good and the expressions and poses make it easy to read their expressions and see those 2 are friends and the emotions they are experiencing in that moment.
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Oh, the Dragoncopter XD . Machinery in Dinotopia NEVER seems to succeed.
The Stenonychosaurus had three fingers plus a thumb in the mini series, which my storyline is a slight spin-off of, but is more true to the books. My boyfriend and I both agreed that Zippeau was a Troodon, since he was so darn smart ( <3 ), and I later figured out that the two were one and the same. I think Stenonychosaurus is used for the docile variety of the Troodon.
I just finished the Krau and Penny.
I'd like to say they're at some kind of festival somewhere, but why in a really weird looking indoors? Another idea is that they've just had the ceremony that fully recognizes them as being partners. But they're celebrating SOMETHING. There's allllllways something to celebrate in Dinotopia XD .
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Cumspiritik.png)
I just wish I could make Penny far less cartoony and make her look more fifteen instead of twenty-three T_T . And I really rushed on the background...something I really wish I had not done. But it does make the characters' colors stand out more...
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I've got a couple more sketches.
I have the lead characters in a dinosaur story that I am creating, hopefully to toss some originality into the world of dinosaur media. For one thing, I am really trying to stay true to the time period in which the story is set, which is the late Cretaceous, probably a few thousand years before the KT Extinction. I've actually decided to keep it completely dialogue-free and experiment with using imagination on how the characters sound when they communicate with each other through their own "language".
This is the Troodon, the main lead character. Once more Troodons come into the story, he is referred to as "our Troodon" sometimes.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0002-10.jpg)
And the far less labored on baby Pteranodon that the Troodon finds far from the sea. Ha. She's a plot point :p .
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0003-6.jpg)
It's really hard to get Pterosaurs to look realistic, especially when you have the ones from Dinotopia in mind.
And after drawing that pain in the wrist...
It's a day early, but what the heck, it's close enough!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-17.jpg)
Pterano disapproves of Musketeer hat! Gaaasssp! Man, the text is hard to read :/
Happy 21st, Jared.
Trust me on the whiskey. I ate a Polish chocolate that had a cherry in the middle...but also with whiskey. It's very strong stuff and has a nasty taste...and aftertaste. (Although, Polish chocolate is quite yummy :) . It's a good thing my friend's dad is from Poland.)
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AWWWWWWWWW.. Ptyra!!
I LOVE THIS!! :wub :wub
You DID IT!! :D :D :D
When I first saw this. I got a huge rush of joy through my spine and I got the shakes and got so excited and happy! My heartbeat really got to going. This is perfect.
I can't thank you enough for doing this! :)
It's me (i look so beautiful. My crest is a little bit shorter than Pterano's. That's how I can identify myself)
Petrie landed on my beak and is giving me a hug!!!!! OHHHHHH!
I look so beautiful and just absolutely fantastic (you got my flyer appearance absolutely wonderful, that's for sure! :yes )
I was very surprised on how quick you got this drawing done and posted. Wow! that was fast :!
And Pterano and Rinkus are there with me. AWWWwwwh! And you gave Rinkus such a happy, sweet, funny look. I love that.
I can't believe i'm even looking at this drawing. I'm actually there with my 3 favorites (Pterano, Petrie, & Rinkus) at a birthday party for me!!
Rinkus is offering Pterano that musketeer hat again. (I can't tell what it says on the label) I could read the Rinkus *snort*, though.
I'm really crying right now. You've made me so happy with this birthday drawing. this is very special.
I love this birthday party with me, Pterano, Rinkus, & Petrie!! :wub :wub
:wub :wub :wub :wub :wub :wub :wub :wub :celebrate :birthday
Oh man. I'm still crying. You've made me send a flood of tears running all down the front of my chest. I still can't stop crying.
OHHH. I WILL treasure this drawing. It's very unique and very special.
Thank you so much
I wonder what it would look like in color... (only a tiny thought)
but what an amazing drawing
I can't thank you enough Ptyra.
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Whoa; I’ve got a lot of commenting to do… :blink:
I think Stenonychosaurus is used for the docile variety of the Troodon.
I have only two of James Gurney's Dinotopia books to refer to, but you seem to be right. Malik, the timekeeper at Waterfall City, is referred to as a “Stenonychosaurus” in the first book, while in the Dinotopia Digest Novel Lost City, a community consisting members of (presumably) the same species that live apart from the rest of Dinotopian society are referred to as “Troodons”. This may have been incidental; perhaps Gurney was unaware of Stenonychosaurus's synonymization with Troodon in 1987, or he just preferred the name “Stenonychosaurus” (the logic being that the dinosaurs would prefer being called “Narrow Clawed Reptile” to “Wounding Tooth”). In any case, it's an interesting idea that some faction of a particular species of dinosaur would identify itself by a different name.
Now, the colored picture of Krau and Penny:
You did an incredible job with the texture of Penny’s hair, :wow and I love the colors and striping pattern on Krau (though I think his arms, neck, and the end of his tail should be striped as well). The colors of the costumes look great, too.
The main thing I don’t like is the decorative collars or fans around their necks (and Krau’s tail); I thought they looked much better in the sketch. While the colors on the new versions are good, they have no outlines (and honestly look a bit messily rendered), and thus do not “fit” stylistically with the rest of the picture.
Krau’s left foot looks pretty good, but it looks a bit misaligned with the band around his ankle . There also seems to be a whole chunk of his right foot and ankle missing, as one of his claws looks to be “drifting” off his toes and his right leg seems to disappear behind his left. Finally, although his arm is well drawn, it looks to be in a rather unusual position for a dinosaur (or maybe it’s just me).
As I said before, I’m not much good when it comes to drawing humans, but perhaps Penny would look less “cartoony” if her eyes were a little smaller and less round, and if her eyes and nose were a little farther down and closer to her mouth. It might also help if you gave her a more defined chin and forehead.
Also, Penny’s hands look a little skeletal. This shouldn’t be hard to check for yourself, but the spaces between human fingers don’t extend that far back on the hand; if you measure your hand from the wrist to the fingertips, at least half of it consists of the palm and the corresponding back of the hand. The divisions between the fingers also don’t reach as far back as that between the first finger and the thumb.
While it doesn’t exactly relate to drawing Penny better, I just realized that those big flared sleeves of hers are either heavily starched or defying gravity; :p they should be drooping down towards the floor weight should be pulling them towards the floor (particularly her right sleeve).
I’m not any good at ascertaining a person’s age in real life, so I can’t offer much advice on how to make Penny look older or younger. Compared to how I draw humans, though, I think you did a great job on her proportions, posture, and overall physical appearance. She looks much more realistic than the few sorry attempts I’ve made at drawing humans. :p
Now, on to the Troodon and Pteranodon:
I really like this idea of yours for a dinosaur story. :yes I haven’t seen a lot of stories like it, and the world can always use more fictional dinosaur universes. :smile Incidentally, your concept reminds me a lot of a story I tried to make when I was younger, involving a young Pteranodon who fell out of his cliff nest and befriended a Struthiomimus.
I commend you for putting feathers on your Troodon. :yes I’m particularly impressed that you included them on the hind legs, a feature that several small carnivorous dinosaurs probably had, but that many artists fail to include in their impressions of feathered dinosaurs. (The feathers probably would have been attached to the back of the leg, however, and I wonder whether a dinosaur adapted for fast running would have short or absent leg feathers to improve aerodynamics. :unsure:).
I do have to say, the head feathers look a bit like a horse’s mane. Also, I think the ones on the arms look too “wispy”. To my knowledge, the arm feathers (or “remiges”) on most dinosaurs that had them were the barbed, vaned kind, similar to those on bird wings, but symmetrical (since they weren’t used in flight). Most restorations of them I’ve seen portray them as being longer towards the front of the arm, and shorter close to the shoulder.
The right hind leg is too sharply bent, and the thighs look too bulky. (Judging from the illustrations I’ve seen, the troodontid thigh only accounted for about a third of the leg’s length.) Also, like its relatives the dromaeosaurs (“raptors”), Troodon probably had a sickle claw on the inner toe, smaller and less strongly curved than a raptor’s, but still held off the ground in the same way. (Depictions of benevolent Troodon seem to have a tendency of excluding this characteristic.)
I think my favorite drawing of the Troodon is the head in the lower right-hand corner. The shape of the snout and head looks quite good (keep in mind that troodontids had very long, narrow snouts), and I like the expression. :DD My only real suggestion would be to move the eyes down and forward a little, to make the character’s large troodontid braincase more prominent.
I really like how you did the baby Pteranodon. It’s very cute. :DD I particularly like how you did the eyes. Realistically, there should be a membrane connecting her wrist with her shoulder (the propatagium), supported by a horizontal spar on the wrist called the pteroid bone.
By the way, how do you plan on having her end up so far from home? If it helps, there is evidence that, like modern reptiles, hatchling pterosaurs were very precocious, possibly capable of flight immediately after hatching (This at least seems to be the case for smaller pterosaurs like Rhamphorhynchus and Pterodactylus). On the other hand, the discovery of a colonial nest site (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1202_041202_pterosaurs_egg_2.html) of Pterodaustro, containing fossilized eggs, hatchlings, and adults suggests that at least some pterosaurs cared for their young to some extent. If you don’t already have an idea, perhaps the Pteranodon was trying to fly, but got caught in a wind that blew her far inland.
Before I go into further scientific critique on these drawings (I’ve probably already been extremely frustrating :rolleyes), how realistic do you want the dinosaurs in this story to be, in terms of the physical appearance of the dinosaurs, and which species you use? I’m sure you’ll be taking a few scientific liberties, but are there any particular paleontological guidelines you want to be conscious of? For instance, there is no fossil evidence of Pteranodon past the mid-Campanian stage (80 million years ago), though it is possible that it survived longer, but simply was not fossilized. Also, pterosaurs probably could not walk on their hind legs, but walked on all fours like bats (though for Pteranodon and many of its relatives, the limbs were more upright); they took flight by “catapulting” themselves into the air with their wings (video here (http://dotsindeeptime.blogspot.com/2009/06/pterosaur-goodies.html)).
In case you’d find references useful, here’s a procession of troodontids (http://sheil.deviantart.com/art/Troodontidae-80592932) (Troodon is third from the right) and one of them close-up (http://sheil.deviantart.com/art/Sinovenator-changii-64801975) (I had trouble finding troodontid illustrations on the web that I trust as scientifically accurate, and I hope these suffice). And this site (http://www.pterosaur.net/) has some VERY useful information on pterosaurs.
Finally, Jared’s star day picture:
I LOVED this picture. What a great birthday present. :DD All of the characters are very well done. :yes Have you drawn Rinkus before? He looks fantastic here. :wow And HILARIOUS in that party hat. :lol Great expression, too.
Ah, too bad Pterano didn’t agree to wear the hat. :p I’d have loved to see him in it. Although with that crest of his, he’d either have to punch a hole in it to fit it over his head, or hang it off the end of his crest like a hat rack. :lol
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I'm still trying to figure out how the Pteranodon got so far away. I even consulted my boyfriend for ideas, but nothing came up. The main "brain teaser" is still how she became mislocated in a fashion that would seem "real".
I planned on the story taking place a few thousand years before the KT extinction 65 million years ago; there's a list of dinosaurs from that time period that included Pteranodon.
And as for the birthday drawing, I have doodled one or two different Rhamphs at some point.
Thanks so much for the advice AND the links. It's really no problem :) . I enjoy your input on improving my artwork :D
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It's been a long time since I've shown anything for LBT, so here's one I did during the last school year.
Dah-dah-dah-DAAAAHH *Legend of Zelda treasure music*
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Surpriseray.jpg)
You got a stingray!
Originally, I had Ada in the back, looking equally surprised. A squid is one thing; a ray is another.
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I like the drawings. You are a very creative person, hope you keep drawing :yes . Wish I could give creative feedback but I'm no artist.
As for Stenonychosaurus, they are troodons. They found some fossils, not sure when, that showed the scientists that they were the same species instead of 2 different species so by the rules of the nomenclature or whatever the science of naming is done the earlier name, troodon, became dominant. The same happened to Brontosaurus and the ealier name Apatasaurus.
When the first Dinotopia book came out Mr. Gurney did not know this since I think it was before that was found out. I'm not sure how current he keeps up, being as busy as he likely is.
I'm no where near a dino expert, and likely not very current either.
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Look out, Pterano! You could end up with a lot worse than a faceful of ink this time! :blink:
Wow. Another funny fishing blooper. :lol I’d love to see this scene in the story. I assume this is the younger Pterano, given his shorter beak and crest. His expression is great (although maybe you should make the front of his eyebrow less sharply slanted; maybe it’s just me, but he almost looks a little angry), and in fact his whole head is well drawn, as are his arms, hands, and neck ruff, . His left foot isn’t bad either, though the middle toe should be ever so slightly longer, and I think his ankles ought to be a little longer and narrower.
I’d recommend working a little on your stingray, though. At first glance I thought it looked like a giant tadpole. :oops Make the body almost disc-shaped, tapering to a point at the nose, with the edges curving inward at the back to form slight indentations where they meet the tail (sort of like a VERY fat heart with a VERY small indentation).
See if you can also make the “wings” look as if they are flapping or rippling, to suggest that the ray is struggling. The wings may be completely rounded, softly pointed, or more triangular, depending on your preference. To imply the thicker, raised part of the body, perhaps you could try drawing two semicircular lines, like a pair of parentheses () “almost” connecting the nose with the base of the tail (but not actually contacting any of the other lines on the ray’s body).
Also, add little kidney-shaped holes behind the eyes (concaved sides forward); these are the orifices through which the ray breathes while lying on the seabed. And while the barbs of stingrays don’t seem to be particularly obvious in most of the photos I’ve seen, you could consider adding a small, thin spine protruding parallel to the tail midway along its length.
I do like the ray’s eyes, by the way. It looks as surprised as Pterano. :lol
As for how Pterano could be improved, I do think his foot looks rather strange gripping the stingray that way. And though this will be remedied if and when you create a background for this drawing, I can’t tell whether he’s supposed to be on the ground or flying (If he’s flying, I think his wings should be extended more, especially the right one, which looks almost draped over his leg).
At least Pterano’s got the ray by the tail. Hopefully it’ll have a harder time stinging him. Things could be worse. It could’ve been an electric ray. :p
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I took a ton of your advice for the ray. I think it looks much better now :) .
Photoshop stopped working on me for some reason, so I had to print-screen the picture while it was zoomed back to paint. Once I got Photoshop back running, I had to paste it back onto photoshop and enlarge it. I hope the pixels don't look too weird.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/surprisesquid.png)
But, I'm pretty pleased with how it turned out :)
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The ray does look better. :yes The spiracles (that’s the word for the breathing orifices that I had forgotten before :p) look very good, and the wings and body are much more raylike. I didn’t expect the eyes would end up so large and dark, though. :blink: TO be perfectly honest, I thought the eyes of the previous version had more character (Many rays actually do have light-colored eyes with dark, often U-shaped (http://www.getahugetank.com/images/blue_Spotted_Stingray.png) pupils).
However, I think I might have failed in the way I worded my suggestions. :oops For one. When I described the ray’s body as resembing a heart, I meant that the nose would be the pointed end. I should have shown you this picture (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Dasyatis_sabina_drawing.jpg/384px-Dasyatis_sabina_drawing.jpg) to show you what I meant (Imagine the picture upside-down, then trace the shape of the ray’s body without the pelvic fins or tail. SORT of heart shaped, isn’t it?). Still, there are rays that look like what you drew (though I would have given it a bit more of a snout), so it’s not a total loss.
Oh, so Pterano was on the beach! :o (Looking back at the sketch, I wonder how I didn’t notice that before. :slap) His position looks a little strange, though; apart from his right hand, it’s hard to tell what he’s supporting himself on. Still, he looks good. Both of his feet are improved from before. :yes
Sadly, yeah, the pixelatedness is kind of noticeable. :oops Sorry about your problems with Photoshop. The water and waves look good, though.
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Indeed, that picture would have been more helpful :) . But thanks for the extra advice in case I do one again...but I'm not quite sure if I will :DD .
Here's ANOTHER new-old sketch made during the end of the last school year :) .
I think Crash might be a bit too small, but the picture might be worth re-doing sometime.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Sleepincave.jpg)
And a re-make of an old picture (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/WHAT-1.png). It's the ol' "Oh no! Not the birds and the bees!" when Petrie's CLEARLY only wanting to know how to get a girl flier to like him.Cleaning up his grammar would be a good start...Still, with no dad around, Pterano's stuck with being the role model. (Considering the chats I've been having with Noname, this is going to end awkwardly :lol )
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Asking.jpg)
I figured if it would be interesting if Pterano had a bit of a "trophy" from his time in the Mysterious Beyond, hence the scratches on him crest. Yet again, this is a picture from a few months ago, so I don't know if I'll keep it there.
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Damn, dude. Your art there looks like something of a storyboard, but x7 more cleaned up. I'm liking the vibe here, just a pleasure to look at.
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Indeed, that picture would have been more helpful :) . But thanks for the extra advice in case I do one again...but I'm not quite sure if I will :DD .
Yeah, sorry again about that. :oops Although it never hurts to look for your own references as well. :p
The first picture is VERY well done. Apart from her crest, which looks a little longer and straighter than I think it should, all of the features of Ptyra’s head and face are close to perfect. For some reason, her nostrils and eyes (namely her eyelashes) stand out to me as being particularly good. Her body proportions are excellent as well (only her hands may be a bit too large).
Both Ptyra and Crash have adorable sleeping expressions. :wub Like Ptyra, Crash’s head looks very good. By the way, is Ptyra’s beak supposed to be resting on top of Crash, or behind him? Personally I think it would be better to have it on top.
I couple of suggestions I have for Crash: see if you can make his front limbs look more like hands; at the moment he looks like he would walk on them. Also, his ankle joint should probably be level with his elbow, not against the side of his tail.
Finally, when you do the background for this image, I’d suggest smoothing out and removing the “corner” near the left. I think it would look more realistic that way.
It’s nice to see you going back and redoing more of the classics. :smile Your improvements in artistic skill are definitely visible here. Pterano is better drawn overall (his legs, hands, feet, and beak especially), but personally I don’t think his expression is nearly as hilariously alarmed-looking as it is in the original. His rounder eyes with the smaller pupils conveyed his emotion better, and in this version I think his mouth extends a little bit too far back.
Petrie, too, is wll drawn, but in my opinion he looks a too much like a mini-Pterano, as his proportions (apart from slightly smaller wings and a shorter crest) are virtually the same. His head is also too small in comparison to his body. In short, I don’t think he looks enough like Petrie. Still, I think his expression looks more “questioning” than that of the original version, and his beak, neck, and ruff look pretty good. It’s mainly his torso (which I think should be shorter, and maybe a bit plumper), legs, crest size, and the relative proportions of his head and body that I think could be changed.
A few notes on the background: The trees look much better than in the earlier version, but that waterfall should probably be the same width at the top and the bottom, and maybe the splash should be smaller given that it’s so distant. Also, perhaps there should be a river leading from the waterfall; all of that water would have to go somewhere.
By the way, Campion1, Ptyra’s a dudette (I believe the term is). ;)
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Thanks for the advice on improvement :) . I took a lot of it into hand, especially into the second one. Ptyra's beak placement looked weird because I had drawn it before I drew Crash.
Here's the sleeping one. I don't think the rocks are up to their predecessor's grandness, but I haven't done them in a really long time.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Sleepincave-1.png)
What's your opinion on the lighting? That's one big thing I was wondering about.
I REALLY need to give this background a great big facelift, but I did try to do a lot to make Petrie look more like Petrie. I feel fine with how he turned out, though :)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Asking-1.png)
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The characters in the first picture look very good. :yes Ptyra’s eyes and expression look no less fantastic than they did in the sketch, and you did a great job outlining Crash’s intricate details in paint. I don’t think Ptyra needs that little diagonal line above her soulder, though. And Crash appears to have only one nostril, and almost in the center of his snout, which, needless to say, looks strange.
I think I messed up again in my comment regarding Ptyra’s beak: :oops I didn’t think anything about it looked strange; I just thought that, having drawn one character over another, you still had some freedom as far as whether to put the beak on top of Crash or behind him, and thought that having it resting on his back would impart a greater sense of interaction and affection between the characters (I should have specifically said that :slap). Obviously you decided otherwise, and it looks fine anyway. :yes
As for the lighting, I have to say that the picture is very dark, and I have to look very closely to see any detail other than the characters. Unfortunately to say, there’s still not much distinction between the rocks forming the wall and the floor, because the shading is the same (I wish I knew more about backgrounds, shading, texturing, and drawing the insides of caves, because then I might actually be able to suggest something helpful :bang). I did see the opening in the wall (which I hadn’t noticed in the sketch :blink:), and maybe it’s just me, but it looks as if its edges are lighter than the rock that makes up the rest of the cave wall. Maybe it was accidental, but I think that would be accurate; since even at night it would be lighter outside the cave than inside (unless the cave was inhabited by glowworms :p), so the area around the cave entrance would be brighter than the surrounding walls. Also, the floor of the cave should probably be brighter than the walls, as it would be receiving more light than them.
I’ll just ignore the background in the second image and focus on the characters. ;) Petrie’s head still looks small compared to his body, but he’s much more recognizable as Petrie. :yes I think his wings are the wrong color, though; they should be a pale grayish white.
By the way, I’ve never seen anyone draw an adult or teenage Petrie as having black hands and feet with white claws. :! Just wanted to comment on that.
Pterano’s expression looks better (the smaller pupils help a lot), but I still think his eyes are too triangular. I’m not one to tell you how to draw facial expressions (since you already do them so awesomely well :wow), but perhaps you could try first drawing the eye as a circle or oval, and then adding the eyebrows that will define the expression. As for the scar on his crest, personally I think it should be darker (right now it looks like a recent wound), probably larger (it’s not very noticeable), and the three lines that make it up should not connect if they are intended to be claw marks. Though personally I’m not too big on the scar anyway.
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Again, thanks for the tippers. Considering how the picture was drawn a few months ago, I'm not really big on the scar thing anymore either. Although, it would have resulted in an interesting reunion with Tybalt. "I see you're starting to grasp the family look..."
Yet another one from last school year, Thisbe returns...rather gruffly.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Sandman.jpg)
Yet another other-Michael York-character reference, this one being Logan's Run specifically. I guess Thisbe was trying to be a "runner" and Pterano grabbed her before she could get away...
It was really hard to draw him holding Thisbe by the scruff and making her hang, though.
Imagine Thisbe with some time of a Swedish/Norwegian accent. Maybe even a bit of Scots-Irish. That might add more effect.
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Nice picture and with a funny line also. Thanks for sharing it with us here.
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Although, it would have resulted in an interesting reunion with Tybalt. "I see you're starting to grasp the family look..."
:lol
As always, I love the expressions in this picture. :lol: Thisbe looks so irritated (I love how you did the ears), while Pterano just looks bewildered. :lol Bet he’s wondering something like “What the heck IS this creature, and what is it talking about?” :p
The first thing that struck me about this image (apart from the fact that Pterano was holding a bat-snake hybrid :p) was that Pterano’s head was drawn really, REALLY well: :o his eyes, his crest, the proportions of his upper and lower beak, everything. Looking at the image in your signature, it can be seen that it isn’t a straight line from the top of Pterano’s head to his crest (even though what you have is more realistic for Pteranodon :p), but apart from that the only inconsistency I can see is that his head is too small in proportion to his body (particularly his legs and feet).
Pterano’s feet and hands (especially the left ones) are also very well drawn, as is his ruff. However, there should be a line at the top of his left thigh where it meets his body; otherwise his leg looks like it is unnaturally merged with his torso.
Are Thisbe’s wings connected to her arms, or only her body? I ask because her left wing seems to disappear behind her left arm. Her arms and hands themselves are also a little aysymmetrical; her left hand is larger and has more digits, and outside bend of her elbow does not match up with the inside. Finally, what is that little diagonal teardrop shape to the right of Thisbe’s nose supposed to be? :huh: It looks really strange.
By the way, I forget whether I’ve asked you this before: have you submitted any of your artwork for pokeplayer984’s LBT tribute video/fanart contest (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=7948)? I’d bet it’d look awesome in there. :yes (It doesn’t have to be new artwork, either; it can be an older piece, or even more than one piece.)
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Lol, that's one of the reasons why Thisbe is such a difficult character for me to draw XD . I have to coordinate her wings on a body where wings would be difficult for use...even though they're useless.
And now, a brand-new, fresh, completed about five minutes ago, LBT...with an interesting character combination!
It's Ptyra AND Tybalt!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-18.jpg)
Looks like Grandpa is making the same speech that he gave to Dad (http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Myheir.png). But Ptyra seems far less interested in the offer.
It seems though, that Tybalt has given up on having a male heir and giving it right to whatever descendant he could find. And it was not hard to figure out Ptyra's relations considering her strong resemblance to Pterano. I may have to design her slightly differently at some point, and give her a slight resemblance to Ada and Tybalt at the same time.
Hm. Doesn't look nearly as good as it does on paper, though. I decided to give Tybalt a slight change in design so that he could look like Christopher Lloyd's voice would come out of him.
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You said that you have a fanfiction about this, can you give me a link to it?
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The fanfictions are all mostly work in progress. I just do illustrations of a scene I have in mind before I write them :) . There are no fanfictions so far, except for two one-shots.
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Whoa, Ptyra sure gets around. :blink: She’s been to the Great Valley, spent a lot of her life in the Mysterious Beyond, and now she’s back where she hatched. At what point in the story timeline does this take place? Has Ptyra already been to the Great Valley, reunited with Pterano, etc.? Or would you prefer to avoid spoilers?
Oddly enough, one of the first things that came to mind when I first saw this picture was that Tybalt looks a lot friendlier than usual (though he might look more like his usual scary self once you color him :p). He looks like he’s got a bunch of new scars, too. (Geez, what does this guy do, wrestle Liopleurodons? Tease fast biters for fun? Play hockey?) At an rate, apart from the added scars, I don’t quite recognize how you’ve drawn him differently. :oops I don’t suppose you could tell me how you changed him?
Anyway, both flyers are extremely well drawn here. Feet, arms, torsos, necks, heads, wings, and (of course) expressions all look great! :wow Their eyes and mouths convey their emotions perfectly. :yes
Both Ptyra and Tybalt’s right feet are extremely good, though Tybalt’s right ankle is REALLY thin at the base, and Ptyra’s left and right shins are of different thicknesses.
Maybe it’s me, but Ptyra’s crest may be a tiny bit too long here, though its shape is very good. Likewise, Tybalt’s crest looks rather thin in the middle; is it supposed to have had pieces chipped off of it, or is it just misshapen from being repeatedly damaged in fights while it was still growing?
On an observational note, Ptyra’s beak looks a bit more downturned than usual. It doesn’t look bad; just different from how you usually draw her.
By the way, I think you probably could have fit a tail on Tybalt here; just a little stub behind his right thigh. Although if you prefer to draw your flyers with upturned tails, arguably it could still just be hidden behind his wing membrane.
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This is a bit before she arrives at the Great Valley. I'm not sure where her little herd is though, since they're all together now.
I think I might re-do the picture entirely, considering how it quite isn't up to the glory of some of the other fliers.
And for a little sidetrack, it's those two Stupid Rat Creatures (http://forbiddenplanet.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/bone1_p39.gif) from "Bone" as wee things!
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-19.jpg)
I just looove those two X3 ! They introduced me to quiche :D !
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Which CAN be eaten by monsters, by the way :p .
It's been ages since I've drawn those two and I've been wanting to write Jeff Smith (the writer/artist/creator of "Bone") for a very long time.
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:wub: I love how you have the tail in the other rat creature's mouth...it makes me think of a kitten holding onto a piece of string or something and thinking of it as "prey". :lol
And the EYES! I adore the eyes on both of them!
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Rat Creature eyes are awesome :DD ! They're supposed to be red, as presented from their first two appearances until Kingdok shows up. Then they're shiny like they are in the picture. It's kind of hard to tell which way they're looking, though.
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I think I might re-do the picture entirely, considering how it quite isn't up to the glory of some of the other fliers.
Really? :o In what way? I thought Ptyra and Tybalt both looked great!
Cute rat creatures. :DD The one on the left is almost kittenlike.
Whoa, as soon as I thought that, an idea popped into my head for captioned images of rat creatures (LOLrats?). :idea “I can has quiche?” :lol
For some reason, I really like how you drew the fur on these two, especially along the outlines of their bodies. :yes The expressions are great, too. The left one looks so innocent, and the right one so annoyed. :lol I'd expect that the rat creature getting his tail bitten would be the one hissing, though. :confused
The left rat creature's right front paw looks a little malformed. It's larger than his other paws, and there are four claws visible rather than three.
I'd suggest giving the one on the right a bit more of a chin; as it is, it looks like his throat just ends at his mouth.
Both rat creatures' limbs are a bit strange looking. Their front and hind limbs look to be too close together (especially in the one on the right), and on the hind legs, the line marking the front side of the shin should probably end on top of the foot, rather than behind it; that, or merge directly with the foot.
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The Rat Creatures in Bone actually do have four fingers and a thumb on their front hands, while their back feet are a bit more rat-like (http://www.cbldf.com/v/vspfiles/photos/prnt-boneratclrs-2T.gif). Considering how they're cubs, their feet are still a bit fuzzy like so (http://www.boneville.com/wp-content/uploads/image/bartleby%20makes%20mtv%20news/Bartlbymakesnews.jpg). How their hands went through such a tremendous change, I have no idea XD .
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/LittleComrades.png)
Jeez, I hope they're not too dark. The setting of Bone is based off that of Ohio ( :DD ), especially the Old Man's Cave area ( :DD ), so I googled for a picture of one and dressed it up to look like a drawing.
I usually did that with my Bone drawings, since Ohio forests are REALLY hard to draw with all those tall skinny trees packed together.
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The Rat Creatures in Bone actually do have four fingers and a thumb on their front hands, while their back feet are a bit more rat-like (http://www.cbldf.com/v/vspfiles/photos/prnt-boneratclrs-2T.gif). Considering how they're cubs, their feet are still a bit fuzzy like so (http://www.boneville.com/wp-content/uploads/image/bartleby%20makes%20mtv%20news/Bartlbymakesnews.jpg). How their hands went through such a tremendous change, I have no idea XD .
It’s not just the paws that change a lot; their ears go from being short, round, fuzzy things to long, hairless ones (I know the rat creatures crop their ears, but they’d still have to change size and shape quite a bit in order to have those dimensions afterwards).
You did a good job coloring these guys. :yes I love the eyes, and the shading on the fur. :DD Their tails (especially the brown one’s) also look VERY good in my opinion. :wow
I see you fixed the brown one’s leg, too; looks much better. :yes And they actually fit in with the background pretty well. My one big complaint is that the image of the rat creatures seems to have been compressed horizontally.
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Yeah, it was pretty hard to get them seated on that rock :DD . I also noticed recently that Rat Creatures have four toes on their back legs rather than three. Sooo, I'll remember to do that from now on XD .
A while back, I did a pretty depressing (http://bat-snake.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d229hpi) picture of the Two Rat Creatures. To lighten it up, I did this.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/hpqscan0001-20.jpg)
I'm coloring it without the captions and silly cartoon at the bottom; I felt they were necessary for the sketch.
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Here is the last picture colored. The lighting was hard as heeeeck.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Bone/Notdead.png)
But other than that, I'm pleased with it :) . The Gray one looks a little too sympathetic and doesn't have enough "Good grief, man up, will you!?"
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Sorry I didn’t post earlier. :oops
Although the right side of the image is rather dark, and it’s a little difficult to see the brown rat creature’s face, the lighting looks excellent. :yes The background (a cave wall, right?) is also interesting; I like how the light affects it. The rat creatures’ hands and feet are well drawn, too.
I have a few problems with the gray rat creature though. First, it looks like he has only a single cyclopean eye, since it looks as if his whole mouth is visible but obviously only one of his eyes is. Also, the red pupil of the eye almost doesn’t look like part of the eye; it might look better if it were more surrounded by the black part of the eye, and/or if it were the part of the eye that contained that little white reflection.
The other two issues are with the rat creature’s legs. It’s hard to tell that his knee is connected to his foot (I thought it was his belly at first). I think the knee protrudes a little too far, and maybe the shin should slant down to the foot less sharply. Finally, where’s his other leg? Shouldn’t it be visible?
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Dude.
Acutally, Ptyra's a she.
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Well, it's been a DARN long while since I posted anything. Soooo have a Darkwing Duck fanart.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/TheDeadliestTeam.png)
'Tis an alternate universe. That's not ENTIRELY Rule 64. Just a few genderbends: Bushroot, Darkwing, Morgana, Goslyn, and Honker (thus far).
In this universe, Regina Bushroot has a domestic partnership/in crime with Liquidator...that has full benefits.
So, have a pre-epic battle scene.
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Good art. Your perspective is a bit off, but the details in the characters really stick out and the facial expressions say things about their personality.
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Sorry this response is coming so late (and that I still haven't reviewed that fanfiction excerpt of yours! :bang). I'm very glad to see that you're still making artwork. :D
I’m afraid this is yet another fandom that I know almost nothing about (I may have watched it a long time ago, but as far as details go I’m almost completely amnesiac :blink:). Awesome job on the water effects, though. :yes
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What is Rule 64?
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That's not ENTIRELY Rule 64.
Rule 64: "If it exists, Tony Stark was able to build it in a cave, with a box of scraps."
Uhh... yeah... I think you meant Rule 34. :p :p
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I thought that was gender-reverse...
Maybe that's Rule 63...
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I have RETURNED!
With Kung Fu Panda fanart.
So be happy about it!
First, my own design concept for Lord Shen's parents, sort of based off how they appear in the "puppet show" at the start of the second movie
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Shensparents2.png)
Bare with me, this was my first fanart.
And another...sadder one.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Morninghaspassed.png)
The Soothsayer tells Shen that his parents died of heartbreak after they banished him, and I envisioned his mother dying first.
I drew these thinking of Come What May (http://youtu.be/z2uORs59gv4)from Moulin Rouge. Sing, Ewan McGregor, SING!
With a baby Shen
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Theeasiesttofind.png)
I'd say I've improved a little bit...and it's supposed to be raining, but once again, I made it too dark to see anything...
And another little Shen
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/LikeBaba.png)
He doesn't quite have it all together like Baba XD !
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And some more...
Another little Shen, about ten years old. This is kind of an idea of how he felt when the Soothsayer had to stop being his nanny, thus cutting him off from the love he needed to keep him from going bonkers...which is exactly what happened.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/Growingup.png)
I even have a story to go with this one.
The worst part of growing up is that you have to give up the things that make you a child.
That's what his father soothingly told them when the Soothsayer could no longer be his nanny.
He was ten years old, and the first feathers of his fan had started to grow. There was an agreement between his parents and the Soothsayer that when those feathers started growing, it was time.
For the Soothsayer, it was just as hard for her to let go as it was for Shen.
But she promised, that whether she was his Nana or not, she'd always be there for him.
Still...the young peacock felt his first real heartbreak, and he felt lonelier than ever before.
And...sort of a "sequel", featuring my first picture of the Soothsayer...who was a pain to draw.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/AStranger.png)
More story!
"You silly old goat, don't you understand that everything has changed!? I am no longer your ward. I am no longer that weak little chick that you used to coddle!"
Shen looked at her darkly. "I-don't-need-you!"
The Soothsayer, though taken horribly aback by what her former charge had said, knew he was terribly wrong.
Yes, everything had changed, but whether he knew it or not, he still needed her, and would need her badly.
Of course, since he IS the villain, Shen supposedly gets killed in the end. Most fangirls have come up with concepts of him surviving...and this is mine.
After a long and excruciatingly painful recovery, and being concealed by a village that helps former fugitives and their like to reform and find inner peace (or anyone looking for it), Shen travels to India with a merchant who told him that white is a lucky color there. Remember that in China, white is a color of death.
There, he comes across a baby goat that is so outside the caste system, she's not in it; one of the "Untouchables".
Eventually, she tries to sleep on his robe while he's in the Ganges River and comes up with this compromise.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/BankoftheGanges.png)
He has a cane here because his legs are weak from being off them for so long as he recovered.
My idea is that he eventually has a "one outcast to another" relationship with her and looks after her out of pity, and then realizes one day that he's essentially adopted her.
And her name is Jiao, which means "lovable".
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Here! Ponies oughtta bring this thing back!
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/358/a/f/for_my_little_brony_by_bat_snake-d4k42nx.png)
A Christmas gift for my boyfriend, of my characters Feather Quill (the unicorn, a play writer) and Blue Blithe (the pegasus, an actor. The "blue" does not refer to his color, but referring to the "tragedy" half of his cutie mark, "blithe" being the "comedy" half).
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Good day!
My attention was brought to this because I received a reply notification via email. i guess I must've replied to something on here at some point.
I was surprised to see some MLP:FIM stuff on here. I just recently discovered the show myself. I wasn't expecting to find stuff like that on this LBT themed sight.
I'm also surprised at how much of a following the show seems to have! Althought it's geared towards the younger generations, it has a large adult fan base!
I've also often heard the term "brony" floating around to describe a guy who likes the show. I guess I'm a brony as well(A closet brony, at the most. That is to say a guy who likes the show, but doesn't tell the whole world about it.)
Anyway, just wanted to put my two cents worth in. :smile
Peace and long life!
Live long and prosper!
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Rule64: If there is a male verison there will be a female version.
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Your art is really semi-complex.
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What do you mean by that :blink:
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Thought I'd share a Doctor Who art of one of my little "concepts", featuring the idea that the Doctor somehow managed to gain more than twelve regenerations (sheesh, he'll look like the Face of Boe one day!).
Lydia is of a race I came up with called Anomorian from the planet Anomoria...in other words, she's a crab person (in need of looking more crab-like).
And she has a Dalek/Kaled mutant on her head. One that had been under torture for years, hence the half-blindness/scar.
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/020/d/b/and_the_first_dr_who_post_goes_to____by_bat_snake-d4n23lq.png)
Whatever the Doctor's idea is, she seems to think that it has been rendered invalid. Much like "Batman is riding an elephant, your argument is invalid".
*Runs around in a circle "singing" the original Doctor Who theme music*
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*tumbleweed bounce*
Aaahhh...
Well, since it's been about half a year, I might as well put up some improvement work...
Starting with my currently present Doctor Who fanfiction, The Heir of Dalek X. If you've read Prisoner of the Daleks by Trevor Baxendale, you'd know his epicness.
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/198/b/2/the_heir_of_dalek_x_by_bat_snake-d57m58p.png)
Black is not his natural color. Since the Heir is a copy of himself + human DNA, it's a bit like him before he got burned.
And a scene from said story, drawn on dAmuro
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/213/1/c/untitled_drawing_by_bat_snake-d59hah2.png)
With cruddily drawn "honeycombs" in the back.
And finally, a modified version of my biggest plush Dalek, which is about 2.5 feet long
(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs70/300W/f/2012/235/e/0/down_to_detail_by_bat_snake-d5c5e94.png)
Now she's mostly hand-stitched, except for some of the legs themselves and one side of the head/body. But I've had to open up some of the legs because the stuffing got unpleasantly hard from being shoved in, so I had to take it out, un-clump it and put it back in. If I keep that up, she'll get more and more hand-made looking...which is okay.
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(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/297/5/b/untitled_drawing_by_bat_snake-d5ivdex.png)
ONE DAY someone will make a comment *Glances around*
This is a companion to my Doctor Who story, The Heir of Dalek X, somewhere close to the opening following the Heir's birth.
I also did this on dA muro
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Blrglthrg…I’m so sorry. I kept thinking to myself all these months “I really ought to comment on Ptyra’s art thread”, but for one reason or another I kept procrastinating, forgetting, finding myself too occupied or depressed to visit the forum at all, or being distracted by things that I was under oath to do. For some strange reason, I also had a hard time thinking of comments for the pictures at all. :huh: Anyway, I feel awful about it, and sincerely apologize. :bang
I’ll try to comment on as many pictures as I can, but I don’t think I can do them all in one post. So I’ll just start with your latest one of Dalek X and his Heir.
(Oh, great, I just imagined misspelling that last bit to read “Dalek X and his Hair”, which led to a mental image of Dalek X wearing a wig. :lol)
Though it’s hard to beat the “Dalek hat” concept in terms of funniness, I think this is my favorite Dalek picture you’ve done so far. When comparing this picture to your previous Dalek drawings, one can see a marked (and very impressive) improvement.
I like how the picture is lit so darkly, with Dalek X’s eye and the Heir’s entire body standing out so brightly. The Heir’s bright pink color gives it a sense of “newness”, and of being very vulnerable and delicate. Similarly, Dalek X’s illuminated eye, so clearly gazing at his Heir, invokes a feeling of his connection with his Heir. Strangely enough for a creature with supposedly no emotions besides hatred and virtually no face with which to express them, there’s a lot of emotion in that gaze. (Or maybe I’m anthropomorphizing.)
It’s a little hard to make out details throughout much of the picture because it is so dark, but for the most part I think you did a great job drawing both Daleks. The tentacles look very natural, just as if they are sprawled out on a flat surface. (Creatures with many appendages are always a challenge to draw.) The one pointing to the upper right-hand corner is a bit oddly shaped, though. Compare it to the tentacle directly across from it on the other side of Dalek X’s head: both tentacles are curved in an ëS’ shape (though the left one is flip-flopped), but the line that denotes the inside curve of the upper half of the right tentacle’s ëS’ is too short, giving it a crudely drawn appearance. (Sorry, I’m not sure if I’m describing any of this well enough for you to understand what I’m talking about. :wacko)
I would also make Dalek X’s brain larger in proportion to the rest of him, though I think you did a good job drawing the brain as being slightly “dislocated” from the rest of the head, in keeping with the appearance of the New Who Dalek mutants.
I wonder how many people would consider it bizarre that I actually find this picture rather cute. Ironically I’ve always found the Dalek mutants to be rather endearing. Well, given that I find octopuses, squids, and cuttlefish absolutely adorable (and think of cephalopods in general and beautiful and fascinating creatures :smile), my reasoning is that it’s not too much of a stretch that affection would extend to a creature that resembles a cyclopean octopus with an exposed human cerebral cortex. :p It probably helps that the first time we got to see a Dalek mutant in the new series, it was an emotional scene with said mutant in an unusually vulnerable and sympathetic state for a Dalek. …Sorry, rambling again.
Hope this review was satisfactory, and sorry again for not posting one sooner! :oops
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It was very satisfactory :D
Yeah, the Dalek Hat picture is from when I was waaaaay into watching Doctor Who. The character featured there has kinda been scrapped as a companion for the Doctor. The Dalek kinda remains in the picture.
I wrote up an idea for my own group of Daleks that survived the Time War and managed to evolve to the point that they had separated males and females that cared for their offspring (but are incredibly technologically impaired). The "hat Dalek", which the Doctor labeled as "(Oh,) Danny Boy", is one of them.
And this basically sums them up (http://bat-snake.deviantart.com/art/New-Skaro-Daleks-316739312). And I always had the same idea for how the Doctor first encounters them
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/082/0/1/what_the_doctor_found_reload_by_bat_snake-d4tp9p8.png)
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/195/8/8/the_discovery_by_bat_snake-d57anh5.png)
(I had to use models because I suck at drawing people =P )
You can definitely see the changes I went through between the two times, especially in the design for the New Skaro Daleks :p . I still think they need some work, though, and any suggestions would be incredible :)
They basically got there as a "surprise tour", found a dying Dalek in the swamp (or freshly dead in the first version), and discovered its incubation sac, which exploded upon being removed from under the parent. Following that, they find the baby that was growing at that time, and eventually come upon the "city" that those Daleks live in, where they figure out why the Daleks are there. That being "This is where our ancestors crashed, and we have no plans for leaving."
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I now have a "later" version of Dalek X and the Heir
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/298/a/9/untitled_drawing_by_bat_snake-d5iyxar.png)
Where the first image was around the start of the story, this is around the end.
I wanted to contrast from its birth on Hurala with the rock to its life wherever the Daleks presently live with the metal floor.
However, I would like to have kept a feeling of darkness and coldness here to keep a similarity with the beginning.
And I'm still not really sure how the Heir still constitutes as a baby given how huge it is :lol
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Wow, I love your art^^ it has its own unique style and solid backstory and everything :D
I like your concepts of Lord Shen, that he didn't die :( that part at the end always made me wonder...
and of course, more of DW is always a win :D
cheers!
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Aw, thanks...can't believe it's been a year since I did anything with those two groups...though I did sketch Bushroot at some point. I love that guy <3
And one more thing for the Heir!
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/306/5/8/untitled_drawing_by_bat_snake-d5jsx1n.png)
I wanted to explore the "new and vulnerable" aspect of it
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I'm sorry I hadn't commented on these pictures earlier, I honestly just don't know enough about Doctor Who to make an intelligent sounding post about them. :oops
But I will say that you did a good job of making the Heir look new and vulnerable. The color especially is reminiscent of newborn creatures. :yes
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Well, while the intention was indeed for it to look newborn, its tone would probably remain like that its entire life. Its parent just happens to have full-body burn scars and is naturally that pink color...at least I imagine so, Dalek X was in one of the book.
This is another image that's a little older
(http://th06.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2012/215/a/2/untitled_drawing_by_bat_snake-d59qnbp.png)
For wacky symbolism and because I found it endearing for some reason, the Heir 'nurses' from Dalek X...even though it's more like a really thick nutrient slime than actual milk. But this is how I tried to depict it, given that they're flat on their backs and probably can't lay face-down. It needs work and I know it can be situated better and more logically
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I was hesitant about it at first, but I'm going to post some of my art for Disney Channel's most underrated of its three cartoons, Fish Hooks.
Most of it is Mr. Baldwin related...I kind of think he's one of the most dynamic characters on the show. And he's a seahorse. Seahorses are cool.
And of course, he had to fit into the seahorse persona of being a pregnant male.
I've started a set of comics of him trying to select the names for his four daughters, aided by the series protagonist Milo.
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/003/f/1/the_list___part_one_by_bat_snake-d5qayz7.png)
The main female protagonist is named "Bea", but her full name is Beatrice. Which is probably one of the reasons why it got knocked off the list.
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/003/0/3/the_list_2_by_bat_snake-d5qcwii.png)
I was too lazy to put the dots on his tie this time around...
Mr. Baldwin also says that he has eight older sisters. And with four little girls on the way, you can bet that the eight of them might come up with a really long list
The opening panels are actually from the show
The nice thing about them is that it's really easy to get them in character :lol .
I'm considering it being in four parts, but I'm not sure
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Okay, once more, I am updating.
Returning to my Dinotopia OCs, Penny and Krau...except there's been one dramatic change.
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/218/1/2/the_hatchery_by_bat_snake-d6gyoyy.png)
Krau, who was once a Stenontosaurus, is now a Tenontosaurus. And his abilities of human speech are probably dramatically reduced.
Their universe is also more book-based than the mini series and series.
Incubation box numbers are
12 14 16 20
13 15 17 21
I used this as a reference for Penny (http://senshistock.deviantart.com/art/Sailor-Here-Kitty-Kitty-183470808)
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Oh wow!! Loving this! You've really improved and I love the atmosphere in this pic.
I love Penny's posture as she's leaning slightly forward. Krau (loving his redesign, btw) looks a little tentative (tentative for a tenotosaurus... stupid pun, I know :p)
And there's nothing wrong with moar Dinotopia fanart! Heck, I should be adding moar!!
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When I looked at your first few artworks posted in 2008 I truly wondered how you got this Fanart Award in 2010.. But then, more than one year later, you started producing pictures mainly of your Flyer fics (have you posted that fic(s) in the GoF meanwhile?) almost daily :wow
You kept improving, your Flyer characters look so great, I don't know if anyone ever told you how great the stories behind your OC's actually sound from what I heard while reading your comments on your own fanart as well as Pangaea's always constructively written critism that's likely the main reason why you became that skilled :yes
I'm a little bit disappointed that you haven't tried to do much artwork of the members of the Gang, only Petrie appears every now and then, Ducky appears twice with Petrie I think and the rest once if I'm not mistaken.
You discovered your own LBT-style so I really would like to see the others once in a while :yes
But that's just me :angel
Also, you generally haven't done any LBT-art in general for a long time as it seems :o
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It's been long overdue for uploading some art on here, so I'm going to put up a sampling what I have on deviantart
A test doodle for different ways of drawing Daleks, and a different design of Dalek X.
(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2014/183/3/a/castaway_of_hurala_by_bat_snake-d7ox1n3.png)
And I still like the way it turned out, though there are areas that need work.
A little bit of the Avatar (cartoon) universe and some mild spoilers if you haven't read the comics...in which Koh the Face Stealer's mother plays an important role in one set...and is called the Mother of Faces. They have been estranged "since time began" (a phrase I have gone into great analysis over), and Koh steals the faces that his mother creates because he misses her...yet for some reason, won't return to her.
In the comic, Aang describes Koh as a "big ugly sow bug" to Mother of Faces, not knowing about their relationship quite yet. So I designed an infant Koh as a baby sow bug, which is tiny, white, and clings to their mother for a long time. Or whatever "time" is to them, since hypothetical, Koh was begat before time began.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o191/Bat-Snake/uglybaby_zpsbca67ebd.png) (http://s120.photobucket.com/user/Bat-Snake/media/uglybaby_zpsbca67ebd.png.html)
I don't know how you can give a water spirit a black eye...but would she ever try.
Also, Mother of Faces is horribly hard to draw...
Another from the Avatar universe, is the OTP that I have the hardest time excusing. Raava and Vaatu are the spirits of order and chaos respectively, and they engage in battle to decide who will have control of the world (I think someone needs a lesson in how yin and yang actually work...). I designed a "balance offspring" that would have formed from their combined energies, which might have broken off during one of their battles.
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2014/199/8/e/tipping_the_scales_by_bat_snake-d7r92r5.png)
In some unspecified (future) time, Raava would finally meet Prajap after being the Avatar spirit for thousands upon thousands of years, and somehow found a way to bring him to a very shocked Vaatu.
Prajap is also not very powerful at all, since balance is one of the hardest concepts to completely achieve. Which is pretty pitiful considering who inadvertently created him.
And finally, a revisit to Dinotopia...crossed over with Jurassic Park.
I'm doing a roleplay with my friend in Minneapolis, which is such a crossover. Dinotopia has a load of underground passageways, and their lengths haven't been explored. Since it seems to be in the right ocean to my calculations, they could probably reach Nublar. Which is where a (health and safety) inspector named Penny Lewis will find a stranded and close to death Muldoon. She rescues him with the aid of her Tenontosaurus companion, Prem, and bring him back with her to Dinotopia...which is about to face a disastrous plague of rats, followed by dinosaurs from both Nublar and Sorna.
Though, the rats are supposed to be the far greater threat...I mean this is what the image is on our roleplay page.
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/364/6/2/the_roleplay_65_million_years_in_the_making__by_bat_snake-d70418r.png)
Onto the actual picture, which features the scene from the roleplay, when Penny surfaces to rescue a baby ankylosaurus that ran off.
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/365/7/0/rescue_by_bat_snake-d70ag58.png)
And oh the problems...especially Prem. What's wrong with your bones, Prem?Muldoon should look SO much worse, but I haven't figured out what it would take to actually draw that damage. As for the raptor in the basket...this takes place after a story that my friend is writing about Muldoon's struggle for survival while he is stranded, and during that time, he cares for the baby raptor that hatched during the movie.
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I like the dalek mutant pic. :)
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Long overdue art, though I doubt responses after not putting out art frequently after...three years?
I've been dabbling with crafting, and I crotcheted a teeny tiny Dalek with teeny tiny yard, and a teeny tiny crochet hook. I though I was going to give up, but I made it!
(http://pre14.deviantart.net/51d4/th/pre/i/2015/065/b/2/the_tiniest_of_daleks_by_bat_snake-d8kpfzj.jpg)
With a US quarter for size.
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Ptyra is gorgeous! I think you did an excellent job of giving feminine attributes to a Flyer. :D I'm not even sure how it's done, but you certainly accomplished it.
And she looks like a good match for Pterano, too. ;)
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I don't know if you mean if she captures his likeness well by that, but Ptyra is Pterano's daughter. Ada is his mate and Ptyra's mother.
This would be a good time to work on my latest revisions to the Ptyra story though, since I realized a lot in the story that doesn't fit Pterano's personality.
Basically, the update is "Pterano is better at being an uncle than a father."
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I don't know if you mean if she captures his likeness well by that, but Ptyra is Pterano's daughter. Ada is his mate and Ptyra's mother.
This would be a good time to work on my latest revisions to the Ptyra story though, since I realized a lot in the story that doesn't fit Pterano's personality.
Basically, the update is "Pterano is better at being an uncle than a father."
Oh. In that case, she probably wouldn't be a good match for Pterano. :blink: But I must have got the characters mixed up. I was referring to the Flyer who was widowed. :)
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I don't know if you mean if she captures his likeness well by that, but Ptyra is Pterano's daughter. Ada is his mate and Ptyra's mother.
This would be a good time to work on my latest revisions to the Ptyra story though, since I realized a lot in the story that doesn't fit Pterano's personality.
Basically, the update is "Pterano is better at being an uncle than a father."
Oh. In that case, she probably wouldn't be a good match for Pterano. :blink: But I must have got the characters mixed up. I was referring to the Flyer who was widowed. :)
Ah, yes. I haven't worked with her in a super long time, so in my mind, she's a scrapped character.
The latest version of the story is:
Pterano and Ada were still a couple when they were young, and raised Ptyra (and her siblings) together. He wasn't a deadbeat father, but he wasn't great. He was more interested in entertaining his children than being a disciplinarian. Under his watch, they were allowed to do their own thing, which often got him in trouble with Ada and her father. Though he claimed not to have favorites, Ptyra got a little extra attention from him, probably because she looked the most like him. The whole family was separated when the Great Earthshake happened, when the children were adolescents. Ptyra and Pterano were both completely separated from Ada and the other children, who remained together until they found safety on their own. While Pterano joined the combined herds, Ptyra continued to be alone until, like Littlefood, she gathered up her own tiny ragtag herd of misfits, and together, they stumbled around the wilderness until finally reaching the Great Valley.
She continues to be different from Pterano in personality, perhaps even in opposition. Where Pterano is closed minded and charismatic, Ptyra is opened minded and...not so charismatic. She's bitter, blunt, and even a little sarcastic.
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"I do think that fish is a bit too big for Ptyra's little tummy, though XD"
Haha Don't worry, Ptyra's stomach can expand like a vacuum cleaner bag XD