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Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 20, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
Well, we got a rain sequence in the prologue and in the Old one's story, but we only got one in real time in the film. I would have been just fine with it...if it hadn't stopped so suddenly. Seriously, what was witht that? It rained for 36 seconds and then the sun came out. What the heck? Couldn't they have just kept it going? I mean, this "mist-eryious" place is supposed to be quite dark and gloomy, which makes it all the more cooler.  ;)

Hey, wouldn't it have worked to have had "It Takes All Sorts" be set in the rain, and then at the end have it stop, and have the sun come out like we see in the version we know? (Oh, and I would have ended it with an overhead shot of the character walking off into the unknown...that would have looked so cool. Not just some boring shot of the sun.)

I know I'm overanalyzing, but...hey, that's me.  ;)

(As it is, the sequence isn't bad; it just ended at the wrong time.)
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 20, 2012, 08:54:29 PM
Well I think short showers like that are possible. Not very frequent, but still possible.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 21, 2012, 12:26:08 AM
Any other thoughts on it though?  :unsure:

As it was a rain sequence in the Land of Mists, it was pretty cool, however short it was. I just wish it had lasted until the end of "All Sorts".

Also, it's the last rain storm Ducky and Spike endured before the bee stings, and the last rainstorm Ducky endured before the more painful (?) getting dropped and kocked unconcious as well. A nice one to end to their pre-injury days, although I liked the one in 9 (at the end) and the one in 2 better.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Ludichris1 on March 21, 2012, 05:05:06 PM
Well I think if it played during the It Takes All Sorts song, it would mess up the camera and overall feel of the song. However, it could have rained longer when they meet the mouse :)
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 21, 2012, 05:19:12 PM
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Well I think if it played during the It Takes All Sorts song, it would mess up the camera and overall feel of the song. However, it could have rained longer when they meet the mouse 

It wouldn't have messed up the camera. I think it was stupid it stopped raining so soon.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 23, 2012, 11:51:21 AM
Hello? Where is everyone? It seems I've been the only one on here the past few days  :blink:
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: MC CJ'S REVENGE on March 23, 2012, 04:01:51 PM
Everyone has a life and other commitments dude. Can't expect people to be here everyday.
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Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 23, 2012, 04:49:30 PM
Alright, it's just I've been getting fewer replies then usual.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Malte279 on March 23, 2012, 05:11:38 PM
Frankly, there simply isn't much to say to this. You made your point about finding a rain scene stupid.
So what? You want everybody to post if they agree or if they just don't care about that scene? Other elements such as pointing out that it was the last rain scene before those bee stings you are paying so much attention to are so totally random that I at least don't see anything sensible that I could say to this.
To talk people need something to talk about.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 23, 2012, 05:29:43 PM
Hello! I must be going...


I just would like to know if other people would have liked it to have kept going, going all the way so that it would rain during "It takes all sorts".

I mean, didn't it seem a little too coincidental a point to stop? (I'm sorry, I just never liked the scene that follows the storm).

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Othere elements such as pointing out that it was the last rain scene before those bee stings you are paying so much attention to are so totally random that I at least don't see anything sensible that I could say to this.

Well, it's a landmark rainstorm because it's the last Ducky and Spike expierienced before that---not to mention the last Ducky expierienced before falling on her back, which was likely more painful then one bee sting, but the amount she suffered? Well, they'd been through a some before the bees but there were quite a few that came after too.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Malte279 on March 23, 2012, 06:11:57 PM
There's absolutely no connection between these events. One could make up uncountable such last time before or first time after some event and still it would make no sense unless there was some kind of relation between them.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 23, 2012, 06:23:34 PM
It is! It marked the last time something happened before their first serious injury

Also:

I just would like to know if other people would have liked it to have kept going, going all the way so that it would rain during "It takes all sorts".

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Post by: DarkHououmon on March 23, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
What "serious injury"?
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Post by: The Chronicler on March 24, 2012, 07:36:21 PM
I think you need to stop obsessing over every single tiny detail, Bruton. Clearly, the rest of us don't find anything special about when it rains, when some one cries or gets hurt, or especially if there's any connection between any such events (which there aren't).

As for why you don't see a lot of people here lately, it might be because you have something the rest of us don't: too much free time. Personally, I'd love to have a ton of free time. I'd love to have time to do things I like, like writing my fanfiction. However, that's not the case for me. I've got college work to deal with, and I'm sure that if you ask anyone else, they'll have a similar reason for not being nearly as active as you. If you really do have so much free time as to check each LBT movie for every single detail, you really should find something else to do with your time, something that won't bother us so much.

Though if you insist on an answer to your question here, I'll just say that I think the rain should have stopped no later than the start of the song. As Ludichris pointed it, I think it would have ruined the feel of the song.

Seriously, please try to stop making mountains out of anthills. <_<
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 25, 2012, 09:56:52 PM
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What "serious injury"?

Ducky's in 6 (and in 4), and Spike's in 6 (serious refering to severity of painfulness, rather then lasting effect)

And how would it raining during the song have ruined it?  :huh:
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 25, 2012, 10:52:24 PM
I don't recall them being injured in movie 6.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 25, 2012, 11:12:56 PM
Lucky you.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 26, 2012, 01:32:38 PM
But, the sad truth is, they were.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: jansenov on March 26, 2012, 02:44:33 PM
^I think people are starting to feel their hair rising when this topic is brought up.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 26, 2012, 02:49:46 PM
Well, Darkhououmon had forgotten.

My point being it was the last time it rained before their first serious injury (serious as in seriously painful)
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: jansenov on March 26, 2012, 03:19:53 PM
^She most certainly didn't forget. She just told you in a subtle way she didn't think those were any kind of serious injury.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 26, 2012, 03:27:04 PM
If you are talking about the bee stings again, Bron, sorry but that is not a serious injury and never was. A little painful probably, but no serious injury. And no I did not forget. But rather than simply state that bee stings are not serious injuries, I just went for just stating I don't think they were seriously injured in movie 6.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 26, 2012, 03:30:53 PM
Ok, just really hurt then. (The most Spike had ever been hurt, and has ever been hurt)
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on March 28, 2012, 02:18:22 PM
So now have I proved how the things relate?

Anyways I'm still pissed it wasn't longer. Why stop the rain there?
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Malte279 on March 28, 2012, 02:37:52 PM
No, the rain being the last rain shown in an LBT movie preceeding the beestings does not relate / connect the two events in any manner sufficient to allow for any sensible discussion.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 28, 2012, 02:42:48 PM
No you didn't prove anything, Bruton.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 02, 2012, 11:59:59 PM
OK...would it make sense if I say the scene in where they get back and Cera's dad  scolds her was the last time Ducky and Spike saw him before the stigs? (ote it was JUST bfore the stigs...usually your "last time" of seeing somebody doesn't happen so close to when IT is about to happen)
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Malte279 on April 03, 2012, 02:57:19 AM
The assassination of JFK was the last successful attempt on a US president's life prior to the release of LBT. Both the president and the movie are abbreviated to three capital letters too! Can the connection possibly be any more obvious?

(Switch on the sarcasm detectors which have been mentioned frequently on the GOF lately... hey, I don't recall the term being used prior to the first mention of the bees in LBT 6! There must be some connection there!)
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: LBTFan13 on April 03, 2012, 09:00:13 AM
Here's the better question: What the heck is the point of this topic? You didn't like a rain sequence in a movie. A little too nit picky, but okay fine. What exactly are you looking for in posting a topic about it? Do you expect us to start discussing the physics of rain showers or something? Do you want us to say "You're absolutely right, that rain storm was too short! LBT IV is ruined forever!"? I'm sorry if I'm being offensive, but I just don't see the point of this topic at all.

But on top of that, I have another question now (please excuse the language). Bruton,  WHY THE HELL ARE WE STILL DISCUSSING THE BEE STINGS!? This is absolutely ridiculous! How many times are we going to beat this dead horse before you realize that NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE BEE STINGS! I swear you find a way to bring them in at every single chance you get! Enough is enough! Stop wasting our time with this pointless discussion about bee stings and injuries and all that other stuff!
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 03, 2012, 09:32:10 PM
I'm sorry.

But can't I feel sorry for Spike ansd Ducky? It was Spike's first injury ever and his worst to date (pretty much his only to date too)

But I would feel so much beter about it they had shown it happening---to give it closure. Why the heck wasn't it shown? I want soooooo badly to see it.  <_<


Anda m I right about what I said? Yes. Was the rainstorm in LBT 4 the last one Ducky and Spike endured before the bee stings? Yes. Was seeing Cera's dad after they got back the last time they saw him before the bee stings? Yes. Was the rainstorm in 4 too short? Yes. :confused  Did it stop at the wrong time? Heck, yes!  :anger  And could it have continued during "It Takes All Sorts"? Oh yes. Whoever says it couldn't have...

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Though if you insist on an answer to your question here, I'll just say that I think the rain should have stopped no later than the start of the song. As Ludichris pointed it, I think it would have ruined the feel of the song.

How about no later then the end of the song?
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: LBTFan13 on April 04, 2012, 12:20:31 AM
There you go again, saying you're sorry and yet you continue to do EXACTLY what we keep telling you not to do. Stop apologizing and actually listen to what we are telling you instead of ignoring it.

Nobody said you couldn't feel sorry for them. What we don't like is you constantly making EVERY SINGLE topic posted somehow become about the same pointless discussion OVER AND OVER again. They were stung by bees. That's it. End of story. Finished. Finito. El Fin! The movie does not show them getting stung. You will NEVER see it happen. Get over it, and stop complaining about it to us because WE DON'T CARE about the bee stings or why you want to see them so badly.

And another thing: none of your statements are proven facts. Just because something is not shown in the movies does not mean it didn't happen. There could have been five rainstorms after the one in IV between IV and V or V and VI. They just weren't shown. They could have seen Cera's dad that next morning before they met up. We don't know.

Your other three statements are based on you opinion, NOT FACTS. Just because you believe something does not make it true. You think the rain storm was too short. Well I say it was perfectly fine. You say it stopped at the wrong time. I say it ended at the right time. You say it could have continued during the song. I say it couldn't have. The point is people are allowed to have their own opinions about things, so saying that your opinion is fact is disrespectful to others and doesn't make you sound any more intelligent, instead you sound immature and stubborn.

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Whoever says it couldn't have

I just said it couldn't have. What are you going to do about it? It's my opinion, not yours. Deal with it.

I don't even get why you are putting so much thought into it. IT'S A FREAKING RAINSTORM! It's probably the most insignificant part of the entire movie! Why does there have to be something wrong with EVERY SINGLE detail in these movies?
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Malte279 on April 04, 2012, 04:51:57 AM
You Bruton have not answered my question! How can you?
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   The assassination of JFK was the last successful attempt on a US president's life prior to the release of LBT. Both the president and the movie are abbreviated to three capital letters too! Can the connection possibly be any more obvious?

Point is Bruton that the random connections you are making do not allow for any sensible discussion of any sort. It is more likely than not that there was some offscreen rain throughout LBT 5 (otherwise the Great Valley could have hardly regrown as much as it did) but in any case that got absolutely nothing to do with the bee stings.
Feeling sorry for Ducky and Spike is one thing, getting obsessed over bee stings and crying in LBT and posting everywhere constantly, not taking a no or silence for an answer when it is glaringly obvious that nobody but yourself shares the passion for the respective topics, and making utterly random connections is quite another thing Bruton and the patience of our members can be pushed only so far before we must consider whether or not it is doing more harm than good for the community.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 04, 2012, 01:11:47 PM
OK, but I did make one point you haven't "corrected"---it was the first time Spike was injured, and by far the most painful injury he's suffered to date---really, the only injury he's suffered to date.

But yeah, I've gotten carried away with it all.

But I do want to see the bee stings, and am furious that it will never happen  <_<
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Post by: LBTFan13 on April 04, 2012, 08:11:26 PM
Again, your "point" is not entirely correct. Again, for all we know, Spike could have gotten hurt in between the movies. Once again, JUST BECAUSE IT ISN'T SHOWN DOES NOT MEAN IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

See this is what annoys and angers us. You admit you get carried away, and then right there you go RIGHT BACK to it.

People get furious when their spouse or boyfriend/girlfriend cheat on them. People get furious when they get robbed. People DO NOT get furious when a kid's movie that was made YEARS ago did not emphasize ONE SINGLE DETAIL that was addressed maybe for SIX SECONDS. Your anger is misplaced, irrational, and immature. GET OVER IT. YOU WILL NEVER SEE THE BEE STINGS. Stop complaining about it and move on with your life.  <_<
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Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 04, 2012, 08:41:59 PM
Well for all we know, it was his first injury ever. That, on top of the fact that it's the most painful thing that's ever happened to Spike, makes it significant.

And it's more then 6 seconds...Dcuky and Spike are still shown wearing their leaves after they stop talking about it, so while they don't adress it again, the fact that it happened remains for the rest of the scene.



And you talk about movie 6 like it was made a looooong time ago? Please, it's not THAT new.
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Post by: LBTFan13 on April 04, 2012, 09:17:15 PM
Good god I'm talking to a wall.

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS HIS FIRST "INJURY" EVER! HE COULD HAVE HAD AN INJURY BEFORE LBT VI, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE PAINFUL THAN AN INSIGNIFICANT BEE STING!

I'm done arguing about this. It is perfectly clear that you are in your own little world where over analyzing insignificant details is okay and annoying the rest of the board by continuously posting THE SAME EXACT THING over and over again is acceptable. I'm just going to stop now before I get pissed off and say a few unsettling words.

By the way, the movie was released in 1998. That's more than 10 years ago. That's long enough.

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Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 04, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
It's likely it was his first injury since he lives in a pretty safe environment.
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Post by: DarkHououmon on April 04, 2012, 09:50:52 PM
It is quite possible that Spike was injured prior to LBT6. Stuff does happen between movies and offscreen that we don't see. Here are some examples:


The introduction of Dinah and Danah
Guido making it to the Great Valley
The introduction of Ruby to the gang
Littlefoot telling the grownups about Chomper
Littlefoot successfully leading everyone to safety (I mean exiting the danger zone and going up on that safe spot high above the fire)


These are examples of scenes we did not see, but clearly happened. Is it really any stretch to the imagination to suspect that Spike got hurt before the bee sting? I find it pretty hard to believe that a mere bee sting would be his first "injury". A bruise, perhaps, and he likely got them in LBT2.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 04, 2012, 10:04:06 PM
Whatever happened to him in LBT 2 was nowhere near as painful as the bee stings in 6.
Title: Movie 4's rain sequence...I have a problem w/ it
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on April 05, 2012, 01:02:59 AM
Quote from: LBTFan13,Apr 4 2012 on  08:17 PM
Good god I'm talking to a wall.

YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS HIS FIRST "INJURY" EVER! HE COULD HAVE HAD AN INJURY BEFORE LBT VI, AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN MUCH MORE PAINFUL THAN AN INSIGNIFICANT BEE STING!

I'm done arguing about this. It is perfectly clear that you are in your own little world where over analyzing insignificant details is okay and annoying the rest of the board by continuously posting THE SAME EXACT THING over and over again is acceptable. I'm just going to stop now before I get pissed off and say a few unsettling words.

By the way, the movie was released in 1998. That's more than 10 years ago. That's long enough.
Rob beat me to the punch.  I think even a wall would listen better :blink:.

And enough already with the freakin' bee stings!  Enough is enough!  What more do any of us have to say to get you to get over the bee stings?  People get stung by bees everyday, and do they keel over in severe pain?!  Unless they're allergic, never!  If you think that's bad, ask a mother what childbirth feels like or ask a wounded war vet how it felt when he lost a body part by having it blown off by a landmine, and that will make you rethink what bee stings are really like!  Get over it already, beacuse you're really turning members off by not respecting their opinions and forcing your views onto all of us!

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Post by: Bruton the Iguanodon on April 05, 2012, 02:46:49 AM
:oops