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Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: RainbowGirl 39 on January 29, 2013, 08:43:20 PM
whenever I go to youtube or something it always says land before time sequels suck
whats so bad about them?the only one I hated was the 13th one.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: vonboy on January 29, 2013, 09:00:23 PM
Well, I don't think it's that they necessarily suck, it's just they're really nothing compared to the original classic. They were made by mostly different people (Don Bluth had no part in them, for example). They tried to copy Disney movies by becoming musicals(some good ones, but lot's of meh ones.), they had less exciting plots, not as much dark elements, less emotion, and they just generally felt like cash-ins to most people.

I still liked them for the good things they had in them. Obviously, there were some people that worked on them that put love into them. The voice acting is pretty good across the board (aside from Littlefoot changing voice actors every 5 seconds). The animation might have been kinda meh most of the time, but the backgrounds were still more like beautifully hand-drawn paintings. The writers on the movies did a good job of keeping the characters all in character most of the time, and they tried to write all the new characters with unique ways of speech, personalities, and quirks.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Littlefoot3897 on January 30, 2013, 02:54:24 AM
too be honest I only liked 2-4 as squeals. that director really focused on the story and how it fits with the original. 5-13 with that other director messed the story up by adding aliens , tinysauros  weird dinos called yellowbellies, and almost as if he never watched and observed carefully the first movie (bron story for example)
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Mumbling on January 30, 2013, 03:14:55 AM
Next to the reasons mentioned above, people on youtube like to hate on everything in general just to join in. I've barely ever received negative commentary on my LBT videos, though! :)
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: somerandomfangirl on January 30, 2013, 06:48:12 AM
I enjoy most of the sequels myself, although I will skip through some of the songs sometimes. I agree with vonboy on this; the first will always be a classic, but that doesn't mean the sequels don't have their good points too, although 13 was just bad. Really bad. I also love the backgrounds, they're just so beautiful. <3
I also agree with Mumbling, a lot of people on YouTube love to hate things because they think they're joining a bigger crowd, but oh well. Haters gonna hate.  :lol
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Ducky123 on January 30, 2013, 04:34:26 PM
I partually hate LBT13 too because I don't like the yellowbellies at all. It's too much different from the other sequels imo(and I don't like the German speaker of Ducky :( originally it's Aria, right?) But it has some good aspects too, e.g. the wisdoms that Littlefoot tries to teach the yellowbellies so it's a bit of an educational movie for young children.

I too like the drawings of LBT in general  :yes

I think you're right, Littlefoot, that sequels 5-13 aren't focused to the original story, but if the makers of LBT hadn't done this we may have less sequels...  :confused
Actually I like most of the sequels 5-13 - especially the 8th - because the new, sometimes strange characters( Guido :DD) made LBT quite more interesting imo

I don't know why, but when I was younger I didn't watch the original movie :o I can't understand this now, because it's the best movie ever made  :exactly  :lol:
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Petrie85 on January 30, 2013, 06:30:15 PM
I hated movie 13 as well. The yellow bellies where very stupid dumb and annoying. They made the movie terrible so terrible that it's hard to watch and sit through. I liked Movie X because it focused on the relationship with Little Foot and His good for nothing farther. His reason for leave was kinda bad but the fact he went looking for his son instead of giving up was good. It showed he did loved his son. And shorty was a good character and Little Foot making him his step brother was a good move on his part. so I liked movie one and x the most. The rest where okay and decent. I loved a ton of the sequel song's. Guido is a racist slur towards Italians I have no clue how they got that passed censors. Maybe the censor person is a racist or something not sure.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: RainbowGirl 39 on January 30, 2013, 06:39:39 PM
the sequels that I like were III and II I guess the oringinal is good everywhere I go it says the land before time has crappy sequels but to me their good I LOVE LBT! :D
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: RainbowGirl 39 on January 30, 2013, 06:41:30 PM
Quote from: Littlefoot3897,Jan 30 2013 on  01:54 AM
too be honest I only liked 2-4 as squeals. that director really focused on the story and how it fits with the original. 5-13 with that other director messed the story up by adding aliens , tinysauros  weird dinos called yellowbellies, and almost as if he never watched and observed carefully the first movie (bron story for example)
I liked the first four the best as well ;)
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: LoyfeCycleProtector on February 02, 2013, 01:24:13 AM
It all boils down to what's fashionable to bash. I think the MarzGurl reviews had a lot to do with making them 'cool' to hate on. That, and there are some that legitimately bad, like the thirteenth. I think all but the last one has something to be enjoyed in them, however. My personal favorite of the sequels is number five.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Petrie85 on February 02, 2013, 07:41:44 AM
Yeah I disagreed with her by saying the songs sucked. Witch for the most part didn't except for a few. The sequel song's where good and addicting and I still love them today. The graphics in most sequels where wow mixing CGI with regular animation was kinda bad but and not good to look at. It was a eye sore for most people. Witch maybe that is why there is a lot of hate for them and or some people out grow things in time.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: DarkHououmon on February 02, 2013, 10:13:31 AM
Hmm I'm not sure if MarzGurl intended on starting any 'It's cool to bash the LBT sequels'; I'm pretty sure that was already prevalent before she did her LBT reviews.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: LoyfeCycleProtector on February 02, 2013, 06:36:53 PM
I'm not saying she did intend it. In fact, in a very kind email response she sent me, she stated that she was merely expressing her own opinion and does not like that some people are using her reviews as 'proof' that the movies are bad just because she said so.

But I digress. Don't worry too much if people say they don't like the films. If you enjoy them, enjoy them with pride.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Petrie85 on February 03, 2013, 05:59:33 AM
I enjoy the from time to time. I mean they're not the best movies ever but they're fun to watch. I bash them for the fun of it. Only the bad parts I do and that is all. The plots on some are bad and pointless but still are okay. So I do like them but not love them,
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Ludichris1 on February 03, 2013, 11:06:21 AM
I like all the sequels to some degree (even 13th.. a little)
And the songs, while some not as great, are very fun once you get down to it.
If there's one thing I've noticed is songs that grow on you.
More than once I've listened to a whole soundtrack or song and felt bewildered and enstranged to it, only later to learn how great it really is!

Believe it or not, but after listening for a while, the LBT 13 songs are better than you think!
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Ducky123 on February 03, 2013, 02:17:18 PM
I too like the songs in sequel 13 but I don't like the yellowbellies  :anger  :rolleyes
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: LoyfeCycleProtector on February 03, 2013, 03:57:09 PM
I don't think anyone likes the yellow bellies. Just goes to show: an academy award winning actor does not automatically make a character likeable.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: RainbowGirl 39 on February 03, 2013, 09:11:25 PM
I love the land before time and some of the sequels :yes
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Petrie85 on February 03, 2013, 10:28:05 PM
Quote from: LoyfeCycleProtector,Feb 3 2013 on  02:57 PM
I don't think anyone likes the yellow bellies. Just goes to show: an academy award winning actor does not automatically make a character likeable.
Actually there is two award winning actors Robert Paulsen was also a voice of a yellow belly and I was like come on Rob the money wasn't worth it. It pains me to see a very good voice actor like Robert Paulsen doing a brainless character like a yellow belly. It's sad to see that.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: LoyfeCycleProtector on February 03, 2013, 10:40:16 PM
I think it's flattering they chose to work with the series but... Yeah, they should have read their scripts closer.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: DarkHououmon on February 04, 2013, 09:17:53 AM
Quote from: Petrie85,Feb 3 2013 on  09:28 PM
Quote from: LoyfeCycleProtector,Feb 3 2013 on  02:57 PM
I don't think anyone likes the yellow bellies. Just goes to show: an academy award winning actor does not automatically make a character likeable.
Actually there is two award winning actors Robert Paulsen was also a voice of a yellow belly and I was like come on Rob the money wasn't worth it. It pains me to see a very good voice actor like Robert Paulsen doing a brainless character like a yellow belly. It's sad to see that.
Well to him it probably was. Otherwise he likely wouldn't have taken the job.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Petrie85 on February 04, 2013, 10:41:52 AM
Ah yeah true I guess as a voice actor you have to take a job that is giving to you. Or if the directors think you're capable of the character. But still Rob Paulsen could have have done another thing back than instead of doing this. And he has did a lot of the sequels he played a raptor in LBT2 and he also did spike in almost of the sequels as well.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Ducky123 on February 04, 2013, 03:06:45 PM
Loyfe you're right!!! Noone I know likes them :yes
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: LoyfeCycleProtector on February 04, 2013, 03:36:27 PM
Well, maybe I'm harsh in saying no one likes them. I liked and still like Scrappy Doo, so that goes to show that there's always people who are capable of liking characters everyone else can't stand. Although I think I'm safe in saying that the Yellow Bellies are no one's favorite character or anything. I sure don't like them, and your right, Ducky123: never met anyone (yet) who does.

Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: StrutEggStealer on February 04, 2013, 10:55:07 PM
Quote from: LoyfeCycleProtector,Feb 4 2013 on  02:36 PM
Although I think I'm safe in saying that the Yellow Bellies are no one's favorite character or anything. I sure don't like them, and your right, Ducky123: never met anyone (yet) who does.
May I ask what is so bad about the Yellowbellies? :) I haven't seen LBT eleven to thirteen as of yet (I plan on fixing that monstrosity of a problem ASAP) but I'm curious; EVERYone, not exaggerating, HATES the Yellowbellies... and all I'm asking is WHY?
:DD

As for my thoughts on the sequels: LBT 2 and 7 are my absolute faves, so right there, I'm in love with two of the sequels^^ and i tend to like sequels more at times (Secret of NIMH 2 and Ferngully 2 could have been SO much more developed :p) but what I like most about sequels is that they often add in new elements for the characters to overcome, something you never would see them doing in the original movie.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: LoyfeCycleProtector on February 05, 2013, 12:11:37 AM
I agree, that's a major bonus to these sequels, strut.

As for the Yellow Bellies, there's no one easy way of describing why people don't like them other than this: they don't work. You don't sympathize with these characters because they're not funny: they're just goofy, and they don't have any other real characteristics to fall back on. But, not only are they usually not funny, they're kind of like those 'escort mission' characters you have in video games-- you know, the defenseless ally you have to protect until they make it to their destination? That's the Yellow Bellies.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Petrie85 on February 05, 2013, 09:05:19 AM
The yellow bellies where awful and very stupid and annoying characters. My I.Q. Dropped rapidly when I saw those characters. Everything about that movie made hurt me it was so bad. One good thing was the How Do You Know song that is it.
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: StrutEggStealer on February 05, 2013, 01:58:13 PM
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But, not only are they usually not funny, they're kind of like those 'escort mission' characters you have in video games-- you know, the defenseless ally you have to protect until they make it to their destination?

Haha I can see what you mean by that.
I tend to find charries like that somewhat endearing. They don't seem to have any worries and they're very easy-going. Reminds me a bit of those nomads in Avatar the Last Airbender. "You gotta focus less on the where, and mroe on the going"
"Oh, wait, we're thinking of ideas? Cuz, I've had an idea for like an hour now"  the nomads weren't really annoying - they were goofy, and borderline out of their leauge. That's what I think of when I picture the Yellowbellies. Guess I'll have to see for myself

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The yellow bellies where awful and very stupid and annoying characters. My I.Q. Dropped rapidly when I saw those characters. Everything about that movie made hurt me it was so bad.

Now, that seems to be a bit of an exaggeration, petrie :DD surely, no character can be that ba-- *TIMOTHY BRISBY, SECRET OF NIMH 2*  :blink:
on second thought...
:lol
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: jansenov on February 05, 2013, 09:03:32 PM
Petrie85, the horse is already dead. No need to flog it harder and harder...
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Petrie85 on February 06, 2013, 10:12:25 AM
True and I know I won't talk about how bad movie XIII is anymore. But I do admit I liked how some of the sequels turned out. Even tho most of plot lines where lame,
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: Blitz on February 07, 2013, 03:36:41 PM
Even though I've never seen The Great Day of the Fliers and the last one, I don't hate the sequels. I enjoyed all of the ones I have seen, especially Journey to Big Water (Mo ftw) :DD
Title: why does everybody hate LBT sequels?
Post by: LittlefootAndAliTogether on January 29, 2015, 02:45:04 PM
I thought the Yellow Bellies should win the Most Clever Way of Defeating Sharpteeth Award.  They'll do just fine I think.

Also, they get the Loudest Fart in Land Before Time Award.  That's another first.

Another thing I like about them is that they kind of show Littlefoot to have some bias, something we RARELY see from him.  Normally, he thinks that everyone is equal enough, yet here he thinks the Longneck Wisdoms are so valuable that the Yellow Bellies have no hope of making it without him, only to find out they can run faster than, I think, Ruby and can dance Sharpteeth to death.  Also, their hiding technique is amusing, if not a bit flawed.  I mean, even Littlefoot thought the Yellow Bellies were bushes for a while.

Also, another odd thing is that Cera, who often thinks herself superior, doesn't have much disgust for the Yellow Bellies in this one.  She seems to have hated Chomper and Littlefoot more in the past than she does the Yellow Bellies now.

Besides, I don't think Loofah, Doofah, and Foobie are the worst in LBT.  I think that role, so far, is taken by:

(http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss110/wenguin/Dinah_amp_Dana.jpg)

At least the Yellow Bellies were funny and had some great lines like "Hey look, they're still in a group!"  (That made me  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  :lol  when they said it.)

Also, I happened to think the farting was actually pretty funny and that it was a bold, yet great, move by LBT producers.  

Dana and Dinah, on the other hand, were a pain in the tush and I actually felt sorry for Cera, who I had thought was a stuck up bully before that one, and now I started to like her after seeing VI.  

Also, D&D weren't the only annoying part about VI.  

VI, not XIII, is my least favorite film.

I also hated the following in VI:

1.) We never find out if Doc really IS the lone dinosaur.

2.) Littlefoot's hero worship is so out of character.

3.)  The country music thing just wasn't LBT in my opinion.

4.)  The fact that Dana and Dina's parents were NEVER around and poor Cera got stuck with babysititng duty.

5.)  The way they killed those Sharpteeth seems like murder.  (That REALLY bothered me, especially to see the kids cheer it on.   If Chomper saw that, he'd be like  :blink:  :blink:  :blink: )

6.) That it was originally going to be the last one.  (That would have been worse than 13 having been the last one!)