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Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => Hobbies and Recreation => Computer and Electronics => Topic started by: landbeforetimelover on June 15, 2007, 01:40:52 AM

Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on June 15, 2007, 01:40:52 AM
I personally use AVG.  What do you use?
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on June 15, 2007, 02:14:47 AM
I use Norton. I don't really like AVG.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Petrie. on June 15, 2007, 06:19:05 AM
AVG user. :)
Title: Virus protection
Post by: TheNumberOneShmuck on June 15, 2007, 06:34:12 AM
AVG Free, it does the job without attacking my wallet.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Flathead770 on June 15, 2007, 10:28:24 AM
I'm using Norton right now becuase it came with my computer
Title: Virus protection
Post by: action9000 on June 15, 2007, 03:04:21 PM
Avira Antivir.  
I will use it or AVG, myself.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Threehorn on June 20, 2007, 01:04:07 PM
I use Norton here.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: NewOrder on June 20, 2007, 02:25:01 PM
I use AVG because it came with the notebook, lately it's been having problems and it just can't access the server to receive virus updates and so on. I don't really care, but hey. On my desktop I spent more than a year without any kind of protection and nothing happend so.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Teresa on June 25, 2007, 07:23:37 PM
I use McAfee. it always makes me think of cera cos of Anndi McAfee.  :rolleyes:
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Lain_EX on June 25, 2007, 07:43:57 PM
Quote from: Teresa,Jun 25 2007 on  03:23 PM
I use McAfee. it always makes me think of cera cos of Anndi McAfee.  :rolleyes:
LOL I use McAfee too! Not because of Anndi, because I couldn't found an antivirus which I don't need to enter a product key. I used to use Norton but the product key it came with has expired. landbeforetimelover recommended me the AVG but I also had to enter a product key, so I'm using McAfee. Anyway, thnx landbeforetimlover, but I've found a better one. XD
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Littlefoot on July 29, 2007, 09:10:12 PM
I use Panda Antivirus 2007 very good protection and it doesnt consume much resources. Works perfect with XP/Vista.  :DD
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on July 29, 2007, 10:05:42 PM
Norton. It and I have battled some serious viruses over the past few years.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Sky on August 02, 2007, 01:04:15 PM
I'm using Avira AntiVir.
I used Norton earlier but it made some problems. =/
Title: Virus protection
Post by: pokeplayer984 on August 02, 2007, 05:02:55 PM
I hold a combination of McAfee and AVG.  They work incredibly well together, and I get daily updates for Virus Protection.

I also hold McAfee SiteAdvisor.  This not only stops Viruses, but most spam e-mails as well.  It gives this forums a green, which means no viruses or spam e-mail getting me while I'm here. :^.^:
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 02, 2007, 08:05:10 PM
MacAfee? I think my old 1998 computer had that, but it provided little protection because no one ever upgraded it. I think we went on for years, all the way into 2005 with an outdated computer with a virus scanner that hasn't been upgraded since we got it.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on August 02, 2007, 08:57:13 PM
I have personally tried all of the virus protection methods discussed here so far, and AVG is the best in my opinion.  The others provide better than average protection, but AVG is the best at protecting me.  I have downloaded thousands of viruses in the past year and none of them have gotten through AVG's resistance shield.  The purpose of the resistance shield is to stop a virus before it penitrates your system.  Another good thing about AVG, is there are frequent updates available.  I usually update my virus defintions at least once a day.  They're always coming up with cures for the newest viruses.  One thing that I would not recommend to the non-average user is AVG's other free services such as anti-spyware, anti-adware, and anti-rootkit.  These programs work fine for the average user, but these programs are nothing but a pain the the butt to a more advanced user.  AVG's anti-spyware blockes things such as Utorrent and other bittorrent clients.  It also will not allow you to download a setup .exe file from the internet very easily.  It totally blocks all access to your computer to anyone or anything, which is great for the average user that doesn't do much more than get online, use ms office, and play some games and maybe go on msn every now and then, but trust me, If you like doing things like downloading torrents and doing other untrustworthy online things, than AVG anti-spyware is not for you.  It just causes a lot of trouble.  I used to secure my own computer manually before AVG.  The other anti-virus systems out there weren't very good at the time.  It became more and more complicated for me to keep up with the hackers and viruses, so when AVG came out, I nabbed it.  I could do a much better job at protecting my computer manually, but it takes hours.  Not only that, but when you have 162 computers, it's impossible to keep up with it all manually.  AVG is a lifesaver to me.   Avira AntiVir is a pretty good match for AVG now, but I just like the style and ease of AVG.  As of now,  Avira AntiVir and AVG are the only antivirus systems I would ever trust my computer with.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Littlefoot1616 on August 02, 2007, 09:52:26 PM
I used Norton before but it's a nightmare for online gaming!  <_< "Detected this error", "unsafe protocol running", "harmful intrusion detected". GIVE IT A REST NORTON!!!  :mad  :lol I've been looking at AVG but I hadn't heard much about before. Given that fact, with my anti-virus I run by the motto "better the devil you know..."  :^.^:
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Flathead770 on August 03, 2007, 01:19:30 AM
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I used Norton before but it's a nightmare for online gaming!
lol I've had that happen before.

I just switched to AVG now that my Norton Anti-Virus expired. The only reason why i never really switched it before is because i was too lazy.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 12, 2007, 06:32:07 PM
I now use Panda Antivirus.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 12, 2007, 07:42:40 PM
Good for you!  Did you remove norton, or are you still keeping it?  If you did remove it, are you experiencing any PC speed improvements?
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 12, 2007, 07:51:20 PM
I removed Norton as well as AVG (I was recommended to remove both; if I could I would have kept AVG). I did a scan with Panda and it detected 30 viruses, a lot more than what Norton ever found. And yes I've noticed a change in speed. Not sure how much faster it is now though.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 12, 2007, 09:10:17 PM
Norton really slows down the computer.  I would recommend a registry clean asap to get rid of the extra crap it has added to your registry.  Panda isn't as good as avg, but it's pretty close.  It's a lot better than Norton though, that's for sure.  I believe that AVG is the best because #1, it's free and #2, it runs in the background, but unlike Norton and many other anti-virus systems, it doesn't take up 35% of your computers processing speed to do it! :rolleyes: However, AVG's anti-spyware has a protection program that always runs in the background.  It's called "guard.exe" in the task manager and you can't end it.  It takes 2.4ghz of processing power!  I'd rather have the spyware than the Guard.exe program! :rolleyes: Does your panda come with anti-spyware too or is it just the anti-virus edition?  BTW, it is never a good idea to have more than one anti-virus system on your computer at one time.  That's why you were advised to remove them.  Also, unless you manually update AVG, it's useless.  If panda found more than avg did, then it's probably cuz AVG wasn't updated.  Even when it says it's updated, it's not.  You have to manually do it.  It may be a pain in the you know what, but it does provide the best protection.  I'm not suggesting you switch.  Panda is fine (not to mention that you paid for it).  I would get panda, but I'm too cheap and AVG is better so long as you can spend 2 hours a week keeping it up to date manually. B)
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 12, 2007, 09:17:20 PM
It seems to have an antispyware and anti-adware too, because the scan picked up both, along with the viruses.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 12, 2007, 10:00:33 PM
Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Nov 12 2007 on  07:10 PM
Also, unless you manually update AVG, it's useless.  If panda found more than avg did, then it's probably cuz AVG wasn't updated.  Even when it says it's updated, it's not.  You have to manually do it.  It may be a pain in the you know what, but it does provide the best protection.  I'm not suggesting you switch.  Panda is fine (not to mention that you paid for it).  I would get panda, but I'm too cheap and AVG is better so long as you can spend 2 hours a week keeping it up to date manually. B)
I may have been convinced to switch from Norton, were it not for this.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Littlefoot on November 13, 2007, 12:30:12 AM
Panda protection since 2007 is the one of the most powerful and trusted antivirus/antispyware yet. Norton antivirus took a lot of resources for nothing, in major cases it register for example 10 viruses and then you notice that it only delete 6 of them and the other 4 it send it to the quarantine because it can't find a solution or can't delete it. Avast antivirus is a good antivirus protection if you have a mini-network in your house because it is built in firewall, e-mail filter and network firewall but you have to sacrifice performance and speed.

Avg antivirus (free edition) is just to a temporary solution it doesn't detect many of critical spyware malware. I tested it before in computers with critical infections and it doesn't work. Every day I have customer in the store with the same story, a friend recommend me to download this free antivirus but my computer is not working, I think is not a virus because I have this antivirus, when I scan it with Stinger (good portable minor virus removal tool from Macafee) and Panda Removal (another removal tool ).

I found some viruses and then this is when I decide to use Panda full to make a deep scan and found usually more than 30 viruses. The worse case I had was 15 viruses in system files and 940 viruses in files, since that for me avg is nothing in comparison to Panda.

I recommend Panda to Kacie and she can tell her experience with Panda against AVG or Norton!

Everyone has their preferences. I am not intended to make anyone to switch, just giving my opinion from my experiences.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 13, 2007, 12:48:35 AM
AVG is the best anti-VIRUS, but it does nothing against spyware, hackers, spam, or adware.  I use spybot search and destroy for other than virus protection on clients computers.  I typically secure my own computer and I don't like relying on other programs if I don't have to.  AVG and spybot are the best for people short on cash. B)


I have also rigged panda to run on my computer even though I have avg.  It is the best at getting rid of everything else besides viruses.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 13, 2007, 12:56:20 AM
AVG has blocked some viruses from the computer, but anytime a scan was done, it never detected anything. Norton detects some things, but only about 4 or 6 at most.

Panda on the other hand not only detected far more viruses than either combined, it also alerts me when it has detected something and removes it rather than just quaratine it like AVG does.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 13, 2007, 01:14:47 AM
With AVG, manual removal of viruses is frequently required.  AVG's resistant shield is better than Pandas though.  Once, I found 4,872 viruses on a clients computer.  That's my current record.  They were a porn addict. :rolleyes:  Sometimes you have to manually remove with Panda too though so watch out for non healed items.  Looking up the file in the specified directory and deleting it manually is the fix for items it can't solve.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 13, 2007, 01:22:37 AM
I can still safely say that Panda has done a better job with detecting and removing the viruses than AVG did. And what do you mean by manually update? Then what's the point of the program going "AVG has updated!" if it really hadn't? :p
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 13, 2007, 01:34:25 AM
In the menu when it says that it was "notified", it didn't really do anything.  You have to go to the location and manually delete it:

(http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa146/tlordame/notified-1.jpg)


And no, AVG does not automatically update.  Manual updates are always required for maximum protection.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 13, 2007, 01:38:27 AM
Ah I see.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Nimrod on November 13, 2007, 02:24:37 AM
I personally use Kapersky. It¥s the best in the europian stores here. :lol: . And I am very proud with it. :)
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 13, 2007, 02:25:22 AM
I must admit it.  I've never tried that.  I'll go do that tomorrow! :D
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Petrie. on November 13, 2007, 11:51:12 PM
Quote from: Nimrod,Nov 13 2007 on  01:24 AM
I personally use Kapersky. It¥s the best in the europian stores here. :lol: . And I am very proud with it. :)
I've never heard anything bad about that one.  Can't afford to pay for it though.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 14, 2007, 12:00:45 AM
If Norton is as bad as everyone is making out, then I might consider replacing it. However, with AVG's lack of auto-updates and it's limited protection against various other threats covered by Norton, I'm not interested in that one. Panda sounds promising. I'd like to know a little more about it, like cost, what type of threats it covers, etc. I'm not beyond making changes if they can make real improvements.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 14, 2007, 12:04:44 AM
http://www.pandasecurity.com/ (http://www.pandasecurity.com/)  You can find out more about Panda here.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Keni on November 14, 2007, 09:55:48 AM
I use McAfee. I used to have Norton but using that antivirus program was such a nightmare, especially when I used to play Final Fantasy XI.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Nimrod on November 14, 2007, 03:31:29 PM
There is a Final Fantasy XI for computer? I never heard about that.  :huh: . I play all my Final Fantasys on my PS2^^
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 14, 2007, 06:35:04 PM
I just had a trojan horse incident today. My brother was using my computer when Norton all of the sudden told him that there was an infection. He called me over (I'm the one everyone calls over for tech help in my family :D ) and informed me. I logged out of his account, logged into mine, then scanned the files I suspected were infected, and sure enough, they were. This is odd, because I've had these files for a few months, now, and Norton never made any complaints on them, and then, all of the sudden, it screamed "Trojan Horse!" "High risk!" I sent copies of the files over to another computer with a different version of Norton, and it reached the same conclusion -- infected files. I destroyed all copies of the files.

It really whomps to have a virus alert.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Keni on November 14, 2007, 09:19:05 PM
Quote from: Nimrod,Nov 14 2007 on  02:31 PM
There is a Final Fantasy XI for computer? I never heard about that.  :huh: . I play all my Final Fantasys on my PS2^^
Yup, Final Fantasy XI is an MMORPG so it's also on computer. Final Fantasy XI is also on PS2 and Xbox 360. If you probably heard of Final Fantasy XI I'm a bit surprised you didn't know it's also on computer XD
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 15, 2007, 03:49:05 AM
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However, with AVG's lack of auto-updates and it's limited protection against various other threats covered by Norton


AVG protects against tons more than norton and it's not a resource hog.  The only thing is that you have to start the program every once and a while and click on "update" in order to be fully protected.  It does automatically update, but it doesn't update very well.  It only updates critical things (What it calls "priority updates").  You have to tell it to update in order to get the full protection (ie, get the recommended and optional updates).
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 15, 2007, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Nov 15 2007 on  01:49 AM
AVG protects against tons more than norton and it's not a resource hog.  The only thing is that you have to start the program every once and a while and click on "update" in order to be fully protected.  It does automatically update, but it doesn't update very well.  It only updates critical things (What it calls "priority updates").  You have to tell it to update in order to get the full protection (ie, get the recommended and optional updates).
You know what it's time for? That's right, it MANNY'S QUOTES!!!!!
Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Nov 12 2007 on  10:48 PM
AVG is the best anti-VIRUS, but it does nothing against spyware, hackers, spam, or adware.  I use spybot search and destroy for other than virus protection on clients computers.  I typically secure my own computer and I don't like relying on other programs if I don't have to.  AVG and spybot are the best for people short on cash. B)


I have also rigged panda to run on my computer even though I have avg.  It is the best at getting rid of everything else besides viruses.
That list for AVG sounds small compared to the list of threats I've seen Norton clean up.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 15, 2007, 07:03:23 PM
Norton anti-virus only protects against viruses.  It will warn you about spyware, but it will do nothing about it except give you annoying popups about how you can pay them more money to remove it. :rolleyes:


spybot search and destroy will keep any comptuer safe.  Use it with AVG for total protection!  Both programs are free too! :D
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 15, 2007, 07:14:07 PM
Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Nov 15 2007 on  05:03 PM
Norton anti-virus only protects against viruses.  It will warn you about spyware, but it will do nothing about it except give you annoying popups about how you can pay them more money to remove it. :rolleyes:
So you mean all of the times that Norton has removed spyware off of my computer and removed it into the Quarantine, it wasn't really doing it?
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 15, 2007, 07:32:48 PM
Norton has removed spyware from my computer.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Petrie. on November 15, 2007, 09:22:55 PM
Maybe the newer versions do.  Norton never did that when I had it over a year ago.  Certainly did slow down a computer or two.

AVG is not "the best".  Perhaps the best for free. Yes.  For nothing, it does a good job.  You can do a better job staying away from sites that would give you a problem in the first place.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 16, 2007, 03:15:44 AM
quarentine is so dumb.  There are viruses meant to show their worst side when they're quarentined.  That's all norton does, if it even does that.  Sometimes, norton tells you that it's gotten rid of spyware, but it really hasn't.  Let me put it to you this way:

when I repair other people's computers who have norton, I always scan with AVG.  It comes up with tons of viruses that norton never found.  Just 4 days ago, I had a client who had norton and they had 13 viruses that needed deleting.  AVG found them all and blasted them, while norton came back with nothing found.  Norton was totally updated too.  It still didn't find anything. :rolleyes:
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 16, 2007, 10:16:33 AM
Well, Norton picked off the Trojans and removed them. so I'm happy. I've also seen Norton just deleted junk like Trojans without even going throught the Quarantine.

If I get a new "safeguard" program, I want it to protect against all types of threats, viruses, spyware, adware, Trojans, hacker junk (yes, Norton has detected and removed these, as well), and everything Norton protects from, or more. It must also have automatic updates. I'm not going to switch to an inferior product. It sounds to me like AVG's protection spectrum is smaller than Norton's.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 16, 2007, 12:46:11 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav,Nov 16 2007 on  10:16 AM
If I get a new "safeguard" program, I want it to protect against all types of threats, viruses, spyware, adware, Trojans, hacker junk (yes, Norton has detected and removed these, as well), and everything Norton protects from, or more. It must also have automatic updates. I'm not going to switch to an inferior product. It sounds to me like AVG's protection spectrum is smaller than Norton's.
Yeah, I agree with you. To be honest, when I had AVG and Norton on the computer, I was afraid to remove Norton and just leave AVG on the computer because I did not feel 100% safe with just that program.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 17, 2007, 05:11:01 AM
I download hacking tools all the time, and I'd say about 99% of the time, they're viruses :angry: AVG has proteced me all the time though.  I can't give it all the credit however.  Try spybot search and destroy manny.  It's compatible with all antivirus systems and you can have them both installed at the same time.


http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/104.../spybotsd15.exe (http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/1043809773/1/spybotsd15.exe)


You'll be surprised when it scans and finds a billion things.  It scans very fast too.  Be sure to update it though!  Oh, and BTW, it freezes the first time you update it so don't bother to wait it out.  Just end the task in the task manager and restart it.  It's just a software bug that they haven't fixed yet.  And another thing is that after you click the icon, it takes about 20-30 seconds for anything to even come on the screen.  Other than this however, it's a great program.  Works like a charm.  I don't think anyone's told the guy who wrote the software about the bugs and that's why they're not fixed. :rolleyes:
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Nimrod on November 17, 2007, 07:49:38 AM
I am not really interests in computergames :P:  ;) . I heard that there are Final Fantasys for PC, but I didn¥t know that Final Fantasy XI is for the PC since you told me. So, thank you for this. :)
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 17, 2007, 09:36:35 AM
Uhhhhh...did you post in the right topic? :P: The link above is to the wonderful program "spybot search and destroy", a free program that removes all sorts of threats including mild trojans.  Combined with AVG free, it provides the total protection for all of my computers.  I have around 170 of them BTW so I think I know how to protect them well. B)

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I did not feel 100% safe with just that program.


AVG can't do it all.  You need the spybot program.  I'd still rather have only AVG then norton to protect my computers.  Norton just doesn't do the job very well.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 17, 2007, 10:27:31 AM
I have Spybot, but even with it, I don't feel 100% safe with AVG on the comp without another Antivirus to accompany it.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 17, 2007, 10:34:58 AM
Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Nov 17 2007 on  03:11 AM
Try spybot search and destroy manny.  It's compatible with all antivirus systems and you can have them both installed at the same time.


http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/104.../spybotsd15.exe (http://fileforum.betanews.com/sendfile/1043809773/1/spybotsd15.exe)


You'll be surprised when it scans and finds a billion things.  It scans very fast too.  Be sure to update it though!  Oh, and BTW, it freezes the first time you update it so don't bother to wait it out.  Just end the task in the task manager and restart it.  It's just a software bug that they haven't fixed yet.  And another thing is that after you click the icon, it takes about 20-30 seconds for anything to even come on the screen.  Other than this however, it's a great program.  Works like a charm.  I don't think anyone's told the guy who wrote the software about the bugs and that's why they're not fixed. :rolleyes:
I'll try it and report back with my findings.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 17, 2007, 10:49:33 AM
Spybot used to be just about worthless until about a month ago.  They just came out with what they call the "tea timer".  It is a small application that runs in the background that is like a resistance shield.  Works very well. ;)

EDIT:  but they still don't have auto updates.  You have to click "update" to update the definitions.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 17, 2007, 11:00:21 AM
The Vista computer is currently under scan, but I didn't update prior to this, so I'll do another one.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 17, 2007, 11:37:04 AM
After updating, and immunizing, this is what I came up with:
Quote from: Spybot - Seach & Destroy on  
Congratulations!
No immediate threats were found.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 17, 2007, 11:40:17 AM
Good for you.  I always have some sort of threat when I scan a computer that I haven't immunized yet.  Did you immunize Manny?  That'll help you keep it that way.  Also immunize after every update just to be safe.


Are you going to remove it now?  I would recommend keeping it.  What does it hurt?
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 17, 2007, 11:46:59 AM
I don't like keeping programs I don't need. I'll scan my main XP laptop, but if it doesn't turn up much, then 'good bye, Spybot Search & Destroy!'

And, yes, as I said in my prior post, I did, indeed, update and immunize prior to the scan.

EDIT: Lol, pun. Better edit that out.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Nimrod on November 17, 2007, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav,Nov 17 2007 on  10:46 AM
Yup, Final Fantasy XI is an MMORPG so it's also on computer. Final Fantasy XI is also on PS2 and Xbox 360. If you probably heard of Final Fantasy XI I'm a bit surprised you didn't know it's also on computer XD
 
Sorry lbt lover. I just read the text on the second side :lol This was adress to Keni.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 17, 2007, 01:07:23 PM
Quote from: Nimrod,Nov 17 2007 on  10:16 AM
Quote from: Manny Cav,Nov 17 2007 on  10:46 AM
Yup, Final Fantasy XI is an MMORPG so it's also on computer. Final Fantasy XI is also on PS2 and Xbox 360. If you probably heard of Final Fantasy XI I'm a bit surprised you didn't know it's also on computer XD
 
Sorry lbt lover. I just read the text on the second side :lol This was adress to Keni.
??? I never made that post today. :blink:
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 17, 2007, 01:24:59 PM
I think that was meant for another topic and he accidently copied and pasted it here.  I dunno for sure though. :unsure:
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Nimrod on November 17, 2007, 01:37:25 PM
Moment, you don¥t understand right. Take a look at the second page of these topic. There Keni and I talked about that. That will explain you.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 17, 2007, 01:44:26 PM
But your post said that I made that quote. I think Keni said that, not me. Your post said "Manny Cav @ Nov 17 2007, 10:46 AM."
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Nimrod on November 17, 2007, 01:45:56 PM
Oh yes, I know. I just clicked the quote buttom at the last post. Was my fault, sorry.  :bang
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 18, 2007, 10:28:48 AM
My XP computer turned up a lot of junk, but all of it seemed to be stuff that related to ads. What does that mean?
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 18, 2007, 10:33:43 AM
I think it'd be obvious.....ADWARE!!!!! :P: Good thing you got that crap off of there. ;)


Companies put software onto your computer without your knowledge which produce annoying popups and slow down the computer, along with increasing your chances for getting viruses. :angry: If I could, I'd stop them, but I'd need an army of knowledgeable programmers. <_<

I got a really bad one one time.  The program was called "adsite".  It produced a popup about every 20 seconds, and when the internet was offline, it just gave me the stupid page saying "this page cannot be displayed" :angry: God that pissed me off! :P:  Spybot took care of it though.  Windows vista has built in spyware/adware protection, and it's pretty good right now, but that won't last, I can assure you.  Soon, it'll be as useless as the windows xp firewall is now. :(  Everyone learns how to crack it and microsoft never comes through with better protection.  They care more about preventing software piracy than protecting their customers. <_<


My point is that you don't need spybot for vista computers right now, but you will soon.  I'd give it 6 months before windows vista's built in spyware/adware protection goes to crap and every company knows how to bypass or crack it.  I already know many hackers who can already do that, so my estimate is probably way off.  Maybe like 4 months. <_<
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 18, 2007, 10:44:56 AM
My laptop doesn't get pop-ups. What is it, again, that adware does?

EDIT: I think "adsense" is Google's thing.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 18, 2007, 10:49:12 AM
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I think "adsense" is Google's thing.


Oh right!  I've been working a lot with that lately so I must have gotten those two confused.  Not sleeping for a few days doesn't help much either.  It was "adsite".


Just because the popups don't come up doesn't mean anything.  Your browser probably blocks them, but it still uses up resources.  Also, adware and spyware can collect personal information about the sites you visit and record your usernames and passwords to sites you visit (such as GOF, Gmail, ebay ex.).  These things can also collect all your personal information and record your surfing and shopping habits.  Just crap! :angry:


Oh, and adware can download advertising programs onto the computer and start them sometimes so you get odd icons on the desktop.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 18, 2007, 10:53:41 AM
I have something similar to that happen to me on an older computer. It was called "SpyFalcon." Have you ever heard of it?
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 18, 2007, 12:46:24 PM
Actually, spyfalcon was quite famous for it's ability to quickly screw up people's lives a long time ago.  What was it like......6 years ago that it was really bad?  I'm not sure.  I think it's still around though.  I hope I never get it, but I'm sure spybot will be able to take care of it.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 18, 2007, 03:33:56 PM
I had a SpyFalcon fiasco a couple of years ago. It was horrible. Not even Spybot Search & Destroy could fix it (a computer tech recommended downloading it for free). Norton found it, but couldn't fix it.

Anyway, here's my vote on Spybot Search & Destroy. I think it's a very good adware and spyware remover. I'll give it that. However, like I said, I need a all-in-one, and Spybot just isn't that. I need something that can get it all. I hear Consumer Reports (http://www.consumerreports.org/) recently did a deal on what the best antivirus/spyware remover was, so I might check by them to see what they recommend. Again, if Norton's not the best, then I'm not beyond getting something better, but Spybot doesn't get it all, and AVG's got it's bad points, too.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 18, 2007, 04:11:07 PM
From my experience so far with Panda, it automatically plots spyware/adware. You don't even need to scan. In just one week, Panda has disinfected 10 viruses and blocked over 3,000 spyware/adware, and also stopped 2 hacking attempts.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 18, 2007, 04:58:01 PM
Sounds like my kind of program. :D I'll have to look into it.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 18, 2007, 05:29:08 PM
Another feature I like about Panda (not sure if other programs can do this) is if it finds a virus it cannot remove, it will rename the file , putting a .vir at the end of the filename, so it's easier to find. And yeah, it'll give the location of the virus as well (it does this with anything it finds I believe).
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 18, 2007, 05:30:56 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Nov 18 2007 on  03:29 PM
And yeah, it'll give the location of the virus as well (it does this with anything it finds I believe).
Norton does this for me, but not the extension thing.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Petrie. on November 18, 2007, 09:42:58 PM
Nothing will "get it all".  You will need to run multiple programs to increase your chances of detecting more items.  I wouldn't put faith in using only an "all in one" solution....even Panda.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 18, 2007, 09:44:26 PM
I'm not going to use multiple programs. I need to pick one program and stick with it. be it AVG/Spybot, Norton, Panda, whatever.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Petrie. on November 18, 2007, 09:46:52 PM
Quote from: Manny Cav,Nov 18 2007 on  08:44 PM
I'm not going to use multiple programs. I need to pick one program and stick with it. be it AVG/Spybot, Norton, Panda, whatever.
Not good....what Lavasoft finds, AVG anti-spyware doesn't, what Spybot can find, doesn't show up in a-squared.  Are you getting my point?  I have four different programs here and their "searches" aren't overlapping.  That is why I would not trust my computer to only an "all-in-one" solution with all the crap flying around on the net.  These are adware/spware scans which can be just as deadly as viruses.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 18, 2007, 09:49:16 PM
I see where you're going, but I just can't afford (double meaning) to use more than one program like that. One program for me. And Norton might not be it.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Petrie. on November 18, 2007, 09:55:14 PM
I used to be like you until I got a nasty little bugger that just sat in the background until I installed a new program.  But if all in one is your choice (all the programs I mentioned are free) then try Panda.  Even if you paid me for the year, I wouldn't go back to Norton.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 18, 2007, 10:44:09 PM
Panda.... I'll look into that. However, money is an issue. Also, I'm not sure my folks are "persuadable" on the issue. They're not technically minded....

EDIT: Serious question here. Spybot S&D has passed my initiation test. What I want to know is will it plus AVG offer me full protection matching or exceeding that of Norton? I may want to go into something temporary until I can set something up with another all-in-one program like Norton. And what is "Avast?" I heard it was a good freeware program....
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 19, 2007, 03:13:05 AM
Like Petire said, there is NO all-in-one program out there that'll protect you.  Even You'd be better off to get seperate programs for every kind of threat.  I mean, think about it.  If your company has all of them to worry about, you can't possibly find cures for them all, but if you only worry about spyware, then you're gonna focus on ONLY spyware and get that as your priority.  That's why AVG is such a good ANTIVIRUS.  That's all they do.  I did a test run with panda, and I had it for about 2 days.  I uninstalled it and reinstalled avg and avg found 4 viruses that panda never found.  BUT, panda did very well deleting some spyware I had.  It has good antispyware, but bad antivirus compared to avg.  You need both programs, but it won't let you.  The cure???  Create a portable version of AVG that you can update! :D Then, you don't have to install it on the computer and the programs won't conflict! :D Unfortunately, the only portable one's out there are illegal because they're all like "avg pro" and it doesn't make you register, so I'll have to create my own version if I want to stay on the right side of the law. -_- I'm gonna check out some handy portable application makers and see if I can't make avg portable. ;) And Spybot too.




Oh, and BTW, just because spybot couldn't cure falcon a few years ago doesn't mean they don't have a cure now.  I'll bet it can fix it now.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on November 19, 2007, 03:27:52 AM
I think Panda is cheaper than Norton, isn't it? For about a year's service, you only pay about $40.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 19, 2007, 04:09:16 AM
Haven't checked out the price recently, but to renew my subscription to norton, it'd cost me $68.  I got norton with the only new computer computer I ever bought and immediately uninstalled it and replaced it with AVG, but then I got this stupid invitation in the mail once I had the computer for a year and the subscription was up saying "oooooh, norton is so great and wonderful.  Won't you let us suck your wallet dry for crappy service for another year?" :rolleyes:
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Kor on November 19, 2007, 04:12:53 AM
I just use an online virus scanner now and then, no viruses found so far.  Forgot the name, I think it's Trend Micro HouseCall maybe.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 19, 2007, 04:40:20 AM
One place to never trust:  stopsign.com.  They tell you you've got fake viruses and charge around $40 per virus to remove! :o
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Manny Cav on November 19, 2007, 10:40:57 AM
Until I can find a more permanent solution, I've removed Norton from my main XP computer and installed AVG and Spybot S&D (and AVG fourns a stray virus in a test-scan in the process). I'm still looking into something like Panda, though.

Staying up until nearly 3 in the morning installing protection software is tiring stuff.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Petrie. on November 19, 2007, 04:45:06 PM
Sounds like a good combination for a start Manny. :)

I've tried avast but I couldn't stand the gui (how you use the program) and it was pretty slow overall.  Didn't find anything on my machine.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on November 19, 2007, 06:58:41 PM
I still haven't been able to create a portable version of AVG that'll update right.  An anti-virus is useless if it's out of date. :rolleyes: I hope to come up with a solution to the problem, but it won't be anytime soon.  I don't even know what's causing the problem yet. -_-  When I go to update, it crashes giving me a kernel interface error. :(
Title: Virus protection
Post by: lbt/cty_lover on December 25, 2007, 12:51:52 PM
This is my Virus Protection: Mac OS X Leopard.
Viruses are not really formatted for this OS, so I am safe.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Petrie. on December 25, 2007, 07:35:13 PM
Quote from: lbt/cty_lover,Dec 25 2007 on  11:51 AM
This is my Virus Protection: Mac OS X Leopard.
Viruses are not really formatted for this OS, so I am safe.
Its been shown Macs can be hacked....granted not as likely to be, but they can be.  I wouldn't call it virus protection in that sense.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: landbeforetimelover on December 25, 2007, 10:54:38 PM
I find macs to be distasteful.  I've been recently trying out linux and I've been having tons of problems, but I'd still rather have linux than a mac OS.  Macs just make everything harder than it needs to be except for the serious stuff that you hardly ever deal with.  Macs are great when ya have to fix them or when you have a problem with them that needs to be resolved, but they're much harder to use in everyday life than PC's.  If you disagree with this statement, you've either never tried a PC and can't say anything about one or you don't know how to actually use a PC properly (which very few people do). :rolleyes: It's surprising how so many people don't know how to use their computers that they sit on day after day.  Depressing really. -_-
Title: Virus protection
Post by: DarkHououmon on December 25, 2007, 11:54:25 PM
Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Dec 25 2007 on  10:54 PM
I find macs to be distasteful.  I've been recently trying out linux and I've been having tons of problems, but I'd still rather have linux than a mac OS.  Macs just make everything harder than it needs to be except for the serious stuff that you hardly ever deal with.  Macs are great when ya have to fix them or when you have a problem with them that needs to be resolved, but they're much harder to use in everyday life than PC's.  If you disagree with this statement, you've either never tried a PC and can't say anything about one or you don't know how to actually use a PC properly (which very few people do). :rolleyes: It's surprising how so many people don't know how to use their computers that they sit on day after day.  Depressing really. -_-
I disagree with your statement, but it's not because I'm not used to PCs. I've been using PCs since around 1996 or 1997. I have become a bit familiar with Macs as those were the main type of computer my schools used. I'm not used to Macs, but I don't believe they are harder than PCs.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Petrie. on December 31, 2007, 08:21:28 PM
A little update to this thread.

I'm no longer using AVG as my antivirus and I now have switched to Kaspersky.  We installed it on a friend's machine because he gone to a gaming site and the stuff that loaded from there completely disassembled AVG.  Kaspersky was the only thing that was able to remove the really bad stuff, and we were quite impressed.  Amazon has a deal right now, with a mail in rebate, a year of Kaspersky antivirus protection for three computers is free (actually you'll get money back), so it was hard to pass up once we did scans on our computers and saw what AVG was missing.  :o  One had nine viruses and over sixty trojans.  (My laptop had two viruses and three trojans).
Title: Virus protection
Post by: Chikara on January 02, 2008, 01:22:58 PM
I use Avast for anti-virus, along with Ad-Aware for adware/spyware. My uncle recommended them to me, and since that's his job, I agreed.
Title: Virus protection
Post by: action9000 on January 04, 2008, 03:09:05 AM
Moving to the Computer discussion forum. B)