The Gang of Five

The Land Before Time => LBT Projects => Topic started by: pokeplayer984 on March 05, 2008, 09:49:25 AM

Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: pokeplayer984 on March 05, 2008, 09:49:25 AM
Hi guys!

I come here today with sad news.  I'm afraid I had gotten the following notice from YouTube:

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This is to notify you that we have removed or disabled access to the following material as a result of a third-party notification by NBC Universal claiming that this material is infringing:
Very Important Creature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJOITmfvHI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gJOITmfvHI)
Please Note: Repeat incidents of copyright infringement will result in the deletion of your account and all videos uploaded to that account. In order to prevent this from happening, please delete any videos to which you do not own the rights, and refrain from uploading additional videos that infringe on the copyrights of others. For more information about YouTube's copyright policy, please read the Copyright Tips guide.
If you elect to send us a counter notice, please go to our Help Center to access the instructions.
Be aware that there may be adverse legal consequences in your country if you make a false or bad faith allegation of copyright infringement by using this process.
Sincerely,
YouTube, Inc.

So, to ensure I don't get into anymore trouble, I'm going to have to remove my vids and stop uploading them all together.

I'm terribly sorry about all this, but it'll more than likely be gone within the next few days.  You know just how powerful such big name companies are.

This is quite sad, but it needs to be done. :(
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Malte279 on March 05, 2008, 10:27:29 AM
Sad indeed :(
Especially as the videos have been so helpful to make new members discover the Gang of Five.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Kor on March 05, 2008, 11:30:51 AM
It is sad indeed, for that reason, and the songs were great to watch without having to take out the dvd's and put them into the dvd player, ect.  But I guess it had to happen sooner or later.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Mumbling on March 05, 2008, 11:56:02 AM
ooo that's not nice.. I've always watched your videos before I came to this forum.. It's sad but I do understand it... Too bad for us. -_-  :unsure:
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Clawandfang on March 05, 2008, 12:07:19 PM
It makes sense... but if it were not for a video on Youtube I would never have discovered this forum.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: pokeplayer984 on March 05, 2008, 01:48:46 PM
Well, I am able to keep one vid, seeing as how it is fanmade: Ali is Unfaithful (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZo9thehvb4)

But yeah, this is sad.

However, I wonder, with how long it took, they just get lucky or did someone rat me out?

Well, vids are gone now, but hopefully I can still find ways to contribute more members here.  All those links on YouTube were such a BIG help.

Yet, I won't give up hope.  There's gotta be more out there who LOVE LBT.  I'll do what I can to get this place known. :)
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 05, 2008, 01:52:10 PM
After hearing about this, I wonder if I should make all my videos private, or if they can stay public.

Did they say you can keep up the Ali is Unfaithful vid?
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: pokeplayer984 on March 05, 2008, 02:01:40 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Mar 5 2008 on  10:52 AM
After hearing about this, I wonder if I should make all my videos private, or if they can stay public.

Did they say you can keep up the Ali is Unfaithful vid?
Considering it's fanmade, it's really not a problem.  All the others were made by Universal, so they had to go. :(
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 05, 2008, 02:05:30 PM
Well I'll still keep an eye out. I did have some music videos of Brother Bear once, and even though they were fanmade, they were still removed because they still infringed on their copyright.

Although my brother believes music videos shouldn't be touched, at least when it comes to footage, because they aren't full eps or full movies.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: pokeplayer984 on March 05, 2008, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Mar 5 2008 on  11:05 AM
Well I'll still keep an eye out. I did have some music videos of Brother Bear once, and even though they were fanmade, they were still removed because they still infringed on their copyright.

Although my brother believes music videos shouldn't be touched, at least when it comes to footage, because they aren't full eps or full movies.
If this is the real case, then it shows that YouTube only believes what everyone else tells them.  They take their word for it.  Anyone can say that a vid is copyright infragment, even when it's obviuos that they're not.

Maybe it's best that I erased them though.  After you break the rules, some mods keep an eye on you for a bit.  At this point, I really can't risk anything.

I still have the vids on my computer.  Once I figure out a way to give them to others, I'm sure there will be plenty that will ask me for the vids. :)
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Kor on March 05, 2008, 05:32:47 PM
I guess they do not have people who watch the videos once a complaint comes in to see if it is what the complainer says or not.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 05, 2008, 08:06:20 PM
this is truly sad.  I hope music vids are safe from this.  I've always hated youtube, but it is a good source of people.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 05, 2008, 08:16:13 PM
I like YouTube. I always have ever since Clint first introduced it to me back in 2005.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Petrie. on March 05, 2008, 08:36:26 PM
Do what you have to.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Kor on March 05, 2008, 08:37:02 PM
It can be useful and fun, but stuff like this happens once a thing gets very popular, then the studios start to notice.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Chiletrek on March 06, 2008, 12:06:01 AM
Hello:
 It is very sad you had to erase your videos, I regret never leaving a comment in there, but I indeed watched some of your videos.
 I hope you'll find a way to get them online again, but I agree that you must wait some time so you can avoid unnecessary problems.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Kor on March 06, 2008, 09:52:30 AM
I use to watch them often.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: kjeldo on March 06, 2008, 12:00:09 PM
that's screwed! pokerplayer :o
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Mornai on March 06, 2008, 03:33:38 PM
Sorry for your videos, they were awesome but had to be removed. :(
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: pokeplayer984 on March 08, 2008, 10:00:00 AM
Well, there is ONE good thing I can announce to you guys.  I am able to send the vids through my gmail account. (Pulled this off with someone else on YouTube who asked for them.)

So, just give your e-mail account to me if you want them, and I can send them to you ASAP. :)

I'm not out of business with the vids yet! :^.^:
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Petrie. on March 08, 2008, 12:09:37 PM
Disney hounds on their copyrights, so you always have to watch what you do with their videos.  Sending through email is pretty inefficient...you'd be better off uploading to yousendit or something and then give all interested parties one link.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 08, 2008, 12:35:12 PM
I thought Universal owned LBT, not Disney.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 08, 2008, 01:18:54 PM
Uploading sites will remove your vids really quick if they contain anything that might put them in danger.  Hell, I got banned from filefront just for uploading a music vid. :rolleyes: Not that they could keep me off their site just by banning me though. :p
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: pokeplayer984 on March 19, 2008, 10:45:57 PM
Guys, I've taken a closer look at the notification, and I think something may be amiss.  It says that "NBC Universal" was the one that notified them.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall NBC and Universal being joined companies.  Wouldn't this make the notification a forgary and both me and the mods of YouTube were tricked all along?
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Mornai on March 19, 2008, 10:52:35 PM
I don't recall that either, and i'm a big fan of universal. If it was false, then you're videos had to be removed for no reason. Besides, didn't you put in the video descriptions of every video that it was copyright to universal? It seems youtube has people remove their videos every chance they get now a days, whether you say it's copyright to the creating company or not.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Kor on March 20, 2008, 03:23:59 AM
YOu can try emailing NBC or Universal to ask them.  I'm not sure where to look to see if there is information on if NBC and Unviersal own each other or both are owned by someone, or if they have merged like some companies do.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Stitch on March 20, 2008, 08:17:45 AM
NBC and Universal are under the same umbrella in that they are both owned by General Electric.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 20, 2008, 09:30:24 AM
I found this site: http://www.nbcuni.com/ (http://www.nbcuni.com/)

The logo is NBC Universal.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: pokeplayer984 on March 20, 2008, 12:04:55 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Mar 20 2008 on  06:30 AM
I found this site: http://www.nbcuni.com/ (http://www.nbcuni.com/)

The logo is NBC Universal.
Dang!  Thought I had something here and I would be able to use it to get my vids back.  Guess not. -_-
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Kor on March 20, 2008, 12:27:55 PM
To bad.  Some folks to seem touchier then others about things.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Megatoph on March 20, 2008, 08:35:15 PM
I was going to Upload a music vid with my art, but now, I'm a lil conserned about if they would be "Copyright Infridgment".

its always best to put...

"(Name Of charactors or show here) is copyrighted by (name of Company here)

Vid owned by (your name here)"

alot of people do that and it keeps the Copyrighted monkey off they're backs.

I am disappointed of how Youtube is deleting vids because of Copyright. if I'm not correct, isn't the meaning "FanVideo" supposed to mean that the vid was made because of how much the uploader likes the franchise and in turn, actualy Promoting the franchise?
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Mornai on March 20, 2008, 08:53:02 PM
I think it would be a little safer for when you make videos showing tv episodes or music videos even, to put something like this: "(Name of movie/episode) is copyright to (Owner of Movie/episode) and i do not it's characters, songs, or anything invovled with it. in the beginning of your video or something that will make sure everyone who watches the video will see it. And maybe they're deleting the fan videos because you're not sending a big enough message of the copyright owners, OR they're removing them because they have scenes or such from movies, episodes, etc.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Megatoph on March 20, 2008, 09:03:49 PM
that or they are doing it to be mean.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Kor on March 20, 2008, 10:37:28 PM
Or they are afraid of being sued.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 20, 2008, 10:37:47 PM
Putting down credits (telling who really owns the property) and such, from what I understand, is not enough. It's still considered copyright infringement. Apparently, from what I read, the only way for it to be legal is if you ask the copyright holders' permission (and perhaps pay them).
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Mornai on March 20, 2008, 10:40:18 PM
If that's the case, then i bet over 100 videos are removed a day because of copyright infringement
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 20, 2008, 10:42:51 PM
Different copyright holders have different policies. I was once informed by YouTube that my Pterano video (Going Down in Flames) contained copyright material. To my surprise, however, they did not say I had to remove it. 3 Doors Down, the copyright holders of Going Down in Flames, actually allow the video to stay up. Their policy was "Allow" "Everywhere". So I didn't have to remove the video.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Petrie. on March 20, 2008, 10:52:06 PM
I've never gotten any notices with any of my stuff, and I'm sure there's "infringement" somewhere in there.  Guess I'm too small a fish to go after.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Kor on March 20, 2008, 11:01:18 PM
As someone mentioned some are nastier then others about going after stuff.  Some even go after fan sites I heard.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: DarkHououmon on March 21, 2008, 09:28:29 AM
My brother told me about how, in the mid 90s, 20th Century Fox went bezerk and forced many fansites to close down, even though many of these consisted of just screenshots, character information, and episode guides.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: pokeplayer984 on April 01, 2008, 02:14:58 AM
Well, due to the new notice that was given, I have to remove my "Ali is Unfaithful" Vid.

I'll at least give this a few days and so that you guys have a chance to say goodbye to it.  Enjoy it while you can.  It'll soon be removed. :(
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Mornai on April 01, 2008, 07:29:03 PM
That is wrong you can't even keep a fan made video? It's not like it will put universal out of buiseness! <_<
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: action9000 on April 02, 2008, 12:28:30 AM
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That is wrong you can't even keep a fan made video? It's not like it will put universal out of buiseness! 
Don't worry, Mornai, that's an April Fools' prank that's been resolved. :)

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Well, due to the new notice that was given, I have to remove my "Ali is Unfaithful" Vid.
As you know now, Pokeplayer, feel free to post up the video.
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: pokeplayer984 on April 02, 2008, 02:03:32 AM
Yes, it will be back on later.

In the meantime, I hope you learned your lesson, Action9000.  We do not appreciate such a prank being played on us. -_-
Title: I have to remove my vids
Post by: Mornai on April 02, 2008, 02:34:08 AM
Dang that is like the 3rd prank on me. I never know when someone is joking about something on the internet. :lol