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Title: Pleo
Post by: Loofah on March 15, 2008, 06:46:00 PM
At last week i was on the Cebit in Hannover (Germany), and I saw somthing intresting.
That was Pleo, this robotic  Dinosaur thing from ugobe and I was very surprised about the technology that they put into this little guy. :o
In Germany he is available at the beginning of June and maybe I want to buy one.
Have anyone here experience with Pleo, I have heard that he can only run about 90 minutes?
Title: Pleo
Post by: Mornai on March 15, 2008, 07:19:30 PM
I've heard about it, but i don't know much about it. A robotic dinosaur seems interesting, and when the 90 minutes of run time is u, can it be rechraged or something or is it permanently down?
Title: Pleo
Post by: Loofah on March 15, 2008, 07:25:48 PM
Of course, he can be recharge :yes
Title: Pleo
Post by: Mornai on March 15, 2008, 07:28:55 PM
I could imagine this robot called Pleo can do a lot of things! Also, is this the first robot in Germany?
Title: Pleo
Post by: Nimrod on March 15, 2008, 07:32:41 PM
you can also watch videos of him on youtube. ;)
Title: Pleo
Post by: Chiletrek on March 15, 2008, 08:58:11 PM
Hello:
 Oh yes, I just saw some videos and that's great... I think I'd like to have one of those too :wow .
Title: Pleo
Post by: Kor on March 16, 2008, 12:17:39 AM
They have an article about it in the recent popular science where they remove the rubber skin and show what is inside and how it works.  The article says it has a nickel hydride rechargeable battery, among 15 joints, 1 main processor and 4 less powerful ones, an internal thermostat, and other things.  I never heard of it till I read the article.  Sounds interesting.

They have the article online at: http://www.popsci.com/node/19959 (http://www.popsci.com/node/19959)
Title: Pleo
Post by: Mornai on March 16, 2008, 01:32:45 AM
I just recently saw the video, Pleo is almost an actual live being! So realistic, i wish i had one! :^.^:
Title: Pleo
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 16, 2008, 02:00:35 AM
NIMH rechargeable batteries? :blink: That is VERY old technology....  Is it that old?  Why not use a lithium ion battery?
Title: Pleo
Post by: Coyote_A on March 16, 2008, 03:40:37 AM
This thing really looks very, very interesting... But 90 minutes, don't you think it's too short period of time? :huh:
Title: Pleo
Post by: landbeforetimelover on March 16, 2008, 05:18:46 AM
NIMH batteries have always sucked.....  Maybe it's been in development for 15 years and they just don't feel like creating a new power source and want to stick to the old design?  I couldn't even imagine what would posses them to create a robotic dinosaur that uses MIMH batteries. :rolleyes:

Back in the day when laptops were powered by NIMH batteries, they lasted a maximum of an hour and a half.  Now, some laptop batteries that use lithium ion can last up to 8 hours.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Loofah on March 16, 2008, 06:11:47 AM
I have only read about a rechargeble battery pack but I do not believe that they are not  use Lithium Ion :unsure:

Ugobe would sell Pleo later this year with an extra battery pack! :DD
Title: Pleo
Post by: Kor on March 16, 2008, 02:09:57 PM
lithium ion battteries are better I think, for one thing they do not have a memory like the other rechargeable types have.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Mornai on March 16, 2008, 02:29:25 PM
Either way i'd have to say that human society has developed far from the old ages, and it's as if being in the future. (Considering so many people say robots are the future of humans, :lol )
Title: Pleo
Post by: mcr mad on March 16, 2008, 02:45:13 PM
this is a bit odd cos earlyer today i was watching click on bbc news 24 and thay were talking about it, £100 - £200 :blink: i dont think i'll get one, i'd rather get a ps3 thank you very much <_<
Title: Pleo
Post by: Malte279 on March 18, 2008, 03:15:54 PM
I've seen many types of robot pets, though I never owned one.
I don't think I really like the idea of these things. Perhaps some of my dislike for them is based on the fact that I saw a commercial for a robot parrot just a few days after my budgie Luke died.
Those robot pets are funny toys, but nothing more.
I fear that many of these pets are meant to be an easy "replacement" for a living pet that would make more work.
More convenient as they are (no need to clean up cages etc.) I wouldn't want kids of my own to play with such a robot before learning about playing with living, sentient, intelligent beings.
I don't think I could love any robot as much as I loved Luke.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Mornai on March 18, 2008, 04:24:03 PM
I am sorry for the loss of your pal, Malte, but i disagree about them selling the toys as a replacement for your animals. Maybe they just sell them for some fun or a way to pass the time, or even just to make profits, or maybe all of the above.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Kor on March 18, 2008, 04:29:39 PM
There will be some who do like the robot pets, or love them, more then organic pets or other people.  There are some people who love their pets more then other people, or family members.  

Eventually there will be robots that one can talk to and will respond, computer programs also.  Some will like them better then humans.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Mornai on March 18, 2008, 04:34:11 PM
Well, Pleo can respond as if it were a live being, as shown in one of the videos about it, but living organisms as pets would be more good than a robotic pet to me, as they can respond much faster and you can have more fun with them than a robot, unless it can clean your house or something like that. :lol
Title: Pleo
Post by: Malte279 on March 18, 2008, 05:23:01 PM
I'm sure it is a very fascinating piece of technique. Even a funny toy, but I dislike the thought of little children not learning the difference between machines and living beings. If your pet cat annoys you, you have to life with this, if your robot cat annoys you, you just switch her of. That robot needs none of the love that people may give it while a real pet can die from lack of love. I'm afraid that if indeed these toys are used as "replacements" children may forget about the responsibility a living being imposes on the owner. The grownups these children will become will never know about this.
The commercials I have seen clearly aimed at the respective robots being perceived like an easier alternative for a living being.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Mornai on March 18, 2008, 07:10:37 PM
Robots can clearly not be loved as a true pet, as it is not the same. Anyone who can afford a robot pet for their child, could easily afford a real pet. Real pets can love being with you, as robot pets can not, and any parent that would prefer a robot pet over a real one for their child must have a slight problem, as it will indeed affect their childhood going into their adulthood.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Kor on March 18, 2008, 07:33:23 PM
Currently robots and computers are unable to, but how about when they can really love or have true feelings.  There will be the technology someday.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Mornai on March 18, 2008, 07:37:03 PM
Well, i for one will never choose a robot over a true pet, as they do not have the same feeling when being with man's best friend, (or any other pets) even if they can eventually be programmed to act with and have feelings, they will never be true companions to me.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Kor on March 18, 2008, 09:58:24 PM
Some will feel that way.   Though I've heard more then one scientist who has ideas for how robots and computers can have true feelings.  One idea some have is when their computing power and technology is up to it to raise it like a child so it can develop it's personality on it's own.  Also there is at least 1 computer program or robot, forgot which, that they let run at night when the scientists are off at home and let it go over stuff about stuff and reach conclusions.  Though true thought and emotions will not be here yet.  

Outer limits had an interesting episode, I've heard about it but not seen it, where a robot is tried for murder.  I look forward to seeing it someday, when I get around to getting the Outer Limits dvd sets.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Mornai on March 18, 2008, 10:01:52 PM
That last bit is one of the small reasons i would not want any robot to be so close to being a living organism as seen in some movies where robots later develop a mind of their own and attack/kill someone or leave the people they were with or something, but i doubt that will happen unless proved otherwise.
Title: Pleo
Post by: Kor on March 19, 2008, 04:12:05 AM
I"m sure they'd put in lots of overrides.  Maybe have limits put on their strength.