The Gang of Five
The Land Before Time => General Land Before Time => Topic started by: pokeplayer984 on April 16, 2008, 06:15:22 PM
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I decided to post a topic just for LBT Theories in general.
Whatever theory you may have, please feel welcome to post them here. You are also welcome to post your say on theories that have already been posted. Who knows what interesting discussions may pop up.
I'll start with one I find quite interesting myself.
I have a few theories of what happened in some of the missing areas, but we really can't be certian, even though a few of mine are plausible.
One theory at hand is Cera's mom and a few others not surviving the journey during LBT 5. I'd imagine that not all of the Great Valley residents survived through LBT 5 for a safe return home. I wouldn't be surprised if a number of them died due to either starvation, dehydration or get eaten by a sharptooth.
A part of this theory also seems to fit in Dinah and Dana strangely enough. I also happen to have the theory that one of Cera's older sisters that we don't know anything about was impregnated during the journey and as such, produced the eggs containing Dinah and Dana probably either when they were staying at that place where they found some fresh water and green food or not long after they return at the end of LBT 5. I'd guess the latter based on the fact that those two would have a better chance of survival and would less than likely be able to make the very long trek. Why we never saw their mother, who is supposedly one of Cera's much older sisters, I have yet to work out. Might take me a little time to finish up the whole theory.
In fact, my theory ties in with my current LBT story when I plan to bring in Dinah and Dana, so I'm hoping for it to be true. I just might have some of the closest possible theories around :P:
So, what theories do you guys have? Or do you guys want to talk about what I have put up? :p
Post away! :^.^:
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the rainbow faces are humans from the 24th century altered to look like dinosaurs. I know it's crazy.
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I can't remember where where I posted it, but I have a unique theory about the rainbowfaces:
Thousands of years ago, they were living just like all the other dinosaurs in the world. However, they had such great intelligence and imagination that they developed civilization. Eventually, the dinosaur world resembles the human world, except in place of humans are rainbowfaces (and maybe a few of other kinds). Then a series of catastrophes strike, which turn out to be the result of the existence of civilization. The civilized dinosaurs decide to leave the planet, becoming citizens of space. The others that chose to stay behind go back to the old, uncivilized ways. Virtually every trace of civilization disappears after no more than a thousand years.
I know, this theory is very complex. Unique, but complex.
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You know, I once had a thought about the Rainbowfaces being extraterrestials. ;)
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You know, I once had a thought about the Rainbowfaces being extraterrestials. ;)
Who hasn't? :rolleyes:
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You know, I once had a thought about the Rainbowfaces being extraterrestials. ;)
Who hasn't? :rolleyes:
True. :) Especially during the end of LBT 7 when they were "teleported" back to space.
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They are definetely extraterrestrials in my view, as they knew too much physics. :D
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That idea makes the most sense. One other clue is how did they get back to the Great Valley so quickly if they were ordinary dinos from a high tech society.
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who ever know's :unsure:
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Well, they did "teleport" during the end of the movie. If they're not originally from Earth, then they're extraterrestials. ;)
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The reason my theory could make sense is that those events that I described happened so long ago, that their presence on the planet has been forgotten, and, since so much time has passed, they have become so technologically advanced that one would mistaken them for extraterrestrials.
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The reason my theory could make sense is that those events that I described happened so long ago, that their presence on the planet has been forgotten, and, since so much time has passed, they have become so technologically advanced that one would mistaken them for extraterrestrials.
You're right. It reminds me of the theory about the existence of Atlantis.
But I still think that the Rainbow Faces are extraterrestials, since they seem to be not from Earth.
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There are many things the Rainbowfaces could be. That is the great thing about the few clues they dropped is one can say they are this or that.
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There are many things the Rainbowfaces could be. That is the great thing about the few clues they dropped is one can say they are this or that.
True. :) They can be part of an advanced race who lived on Earth long ago like The Chronicler mentioned in his theory. They can be extraterrestials, an evolutionary species of the Dinosaur race, or mythical beings (like Gods).
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There are many things the Rainbowfaces could be. That is the great thing about the few clues they dropped is one can say they are this or that.
True. :) They can be part of an advanced race who lived on Earth long ago like The Chronicler mentioned in his theory. They can be extraterrestials, an evolutionary species of the Dinosaur race, or mythical beings (like Gods).
I'm still convinced they're humans from the 24th century that had surgery to make them look like dionsaurs.
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people from the 24th century
sure?
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There are many things the Rainbowfaces could be. That is the great thing about the few clues they dropped is one can say they are this or that.
True. :) They can be part of an advanced race who lived on Earth long ago like The Chronicler mentioned in his theory. They can be extraterrestials, an evolutionary species of the Dinosaur race, or mythical beings (like Gods).
I'm still convinced they're humans from the 24th century that had surgery to make them look like dionsaurs.
They must have had a drastic surgery then. ;)
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the rainbow faces are humans from the 24th century altered to look like dinosaurs. I know it's crazy.
You might be right, man. They do remind me of just about anyone from Star Trek.
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There are many things the Rainbowfaces could be. That is the great thing about the few clues they dropped is one can say they are this or that.
True. :) They can be part of an advanced race who lived on Earth long ago like The Chronicler mentioned in his theory. They can be extraterrestials, an evolutionary species of the Dinosaur race, or mythical beings (like Gods).
I'm still convinced they're humans from the 24th century that had surgery to make them look like dionsaurs.
OK, I think they'd have something more advanced than a surgical procedure. Perhaps a holographic camoflage?
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I think I will go along with the leaving the planet idea, it sounds more like a realisic throey then humans from the future, in Star Trek they only could create minor changes to their bodies and camo technology like holographic ones wouldn't hide shoe prints in the dirt.
So I have to take up with the theory of leaving the planet and returning to see how the other dinosaur lifeforms have changed since those events when they left the planet. Since that is one of the other things that did happen on Star Trek Voyager, the race called the Voth evolving from the very family type dinosaurs Ducky is and they created in millions of years technolgy in the Delta Quartent that made their beliefs think their was the first ones of the Delta and not from Earth which the Distant Orgain theory proved otherwise which scared the Voth Leader into making that scientist go quiet or if he didn't they punish not only him but the Voyager crew as well.
So with that conclusion I go with the Leaving the planet and returning to scout on present events of their old home world.
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It could be that. They may have gotten to a high tech level and left, there were extinction events or other occurance that could have had them leave and they could return to see, as you say, how the other dinos on their old homeworld are doing.
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I glad to see others actually accepting the theory I came up with. Thank you, Threehorn. :yes
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Hmm... Ya know, I never put too much thought into this before... I just don't know. ...Hmm... Sounds definitely plausible... Never put too much thought in about it, though I do have a few... Theories, but most of them wouldn't pan out, I realized... I don't think they're human... Especially considering that one of the Rainbow Faces makes an appearance in LBT 11...
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If you mean the blue face guy, I think he's been in other movies, often just a 1 line type of thing, if I recall correctly his appearing in other movies, though I don't recall.
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I used this theory in my fan fic (Twilight Valley).
Perhaps the reason that that The Sharptooth was able to do things that no ordinary T. rex could do as well (leap about 100+ feet straight up) as survive impacts that would have been fatal or crippling for other dinosaurs is because he had been altered by the REAL Stone of Cold Fire.
I admit that this might be pushing it; but what other explaination can there be for, as Wikipedia puts it, his "near-supernatural level of strength, athleticism, and durability"?
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It could also be an extra tough variety. Didn't the one in the 6th movie also fall a long distance and get stunned instead of killed? I know they do this just for dramatic tension and plot reasons, but know knows, there could be many reasons why.
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There certainly could. That's the one thing; the possibilities are almost ENDLESS! That's the beauty about The Land Before Time; we can all share our theories, and maybe learn one from another... You can create more fanfiction based around a world that doesn't have as much revealed in this way, as opposed to a world where they tell you _every_ little detail... Beautiful.
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wise words bro! wise words, B)
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I can't remember where where I posted it, but I have a unique theory about the rainbowfaces:
Thousands of years ago, they were living just like all the other dinosaurs in the world. However, they had such great intelligence and imagination that they developed civilization. Eventually, the dinosaur world resembles the human world, except in place of humans are rainbowfaces (and maybe a few of other kinds). Then a series of catastrophes strike, which turn out to be the result of the existence of civilization. The civilized dinosaurs decide to leave the planet, becoming citizens of space. The others that chose to stay behind go back to the old, uncivilized ways. Virtually every trace of civilization disappears after no more than a thousand years.
I know, this theory is very complex. Unique, but complex.
This sounds like the most logical explanation. Good thinking, man!
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That does sound like a good one...
One of my theories from before, stemmed from the lines from "Beyond the Mysterious Beyond,"
You are a part of the Creation
Of all that lies Beyond the Mysterious Beyond
It kind of seemed like, a window into Creationism, but only a little bit. Of course, this conflicts with the Narrator, who in turn already conflicts with many of my beliefs anyway. But, yeah, it's only a cartoon...
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There's been no hint of any previous civilization. It could have been forgotten, or it could have taken place on another continent, or many thousands of miles away from the Great Valley. Just because there is an area that develops civilization and technology does not mean the whole planet will.
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...A million possibilities...
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I got the idea for my theory after I watched a program on the History Channel called 'Life After People'. It was about what would happen to everything humans created if everyone on the planet were to suddenly disappear. Wood rots, steel rusts, concrete crumbles. After only one or two thousand years, the only remaining traces would be massive stone structures, and there's really not that many in the world. Eventually, millions of years of erosion would cause even stone structures to disappear.
One day, I thought, 'if human civilization could disappear that easily, why not other civilizations?' For all we know, many civilized creatures may have come before us, and we would very likely never know about them. When I thought about LBT, the rainbowfaces seemed to fit this idea perfectly, so long as enough time had passed. The age of the dinosaurs lasted millions of years, and it only requires a few thousand years for virtually all traces of a civilization to disappear due to the forces of nature, so time wasn't a problem for the theory.
Who knows, my theory could inspire some fanfiction. One possible idea is that the gang discovers an ancient structure built thousands of years ago, and they explore it to find out who built it.
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I saw that special before. The Rainbowfaces could have a civilization long ago before the LBT movies. It would make a great fanfic Chronicler.
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Ya know, even my beliefs call something like that into account, so I can dig this somewhat... I believe that we are the THIRD "type" of mankind. I believe that the Nephilim and the Anakim came before us (merely called the "Giants" in modern day Scripture)... They were, similar to us, part of the Heavenly Host, that were kicked out with Lucifer; most believers in the Creator attest that the Earth is only around 6,000 years old; I'd say that, at bare minimum, it's about 10,000. But then again, this is getting off-topic, so I'll try to bring it back... My only point in bringing that up, is that I can "dig" that theory, as in, yeah, I know we weren't the first... There's no way... That's the only reason why I brought that up. Now, getting back on topic:
I'm sure that some fanfiction will arise out of it. Somebody's gonna read that, and go, "Wow; that's good. I can base an idea off of this, with a pinch from this other theory over here," etc. Like I said, that's the beauty about something like this; we have almost NO limit as to what we can do...! :DD
EDIT: Now, with something like, say, "The Simpsons," on the other hand... I wouldn't press it much... (Can't say luck, 'cause I believe only in destiny. What is supposed to happen, will always happen, no matter what. There are no "mistakes;" it's all a part of the learning process. It was supposed to happen, because it did. Simple, even oxymoronic (perhaps one of the reasons why I can kind of identify with Ruby so much), yet profound. Our destinies are always on track, especially if you believe that time itself is merely an illusion, created so that mankind can exist. We are not omnichrones, after all...)
Something like that - The Simpsons - has TOO MUCH structure for much to come of it - although, maybe some of us could come up with new ideas, better than the original writers...! :lol :lol :lol
Hmm, I also have my own "theory," I shall call it, about the dinosaurs, but to reveal it, could put me at risk... Some things are better left to one's self.
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I got the idea for my theory after I watched a program on the History Channel called 'Life After People'. It was about what would happen to everything humans created if everyone on the planet were to suddenly disappear. Wood rots, steel rusts, concrete crumbles. After only one or two thousand years, the only remaining traces would be massive stone structures, and there's really not that many in the world. Eventually, millions of years of erosion would cause even stone structures to disappear.
One day, I thought, 'if human civilization could disappear that easily, why not other civilizations?' For all we know, many civilized creatures may have come before us, and we would very likely never know about them. When I thought about LBT, the rainbowfaces seemed to fit this idea perfectly, so long as enough time had passed. The age of the dinosaurs lasted millions of years, and it only requires a few thousand years for virtually all traces of a civilization to disappear due to the forces of nature, so time wasn't a problem for the theory.
Who knows, my theory could inspire some fanfiction. One possible idea is that the gang discovers an ancient structure built thousands of years ago, and they explore it to find out who built it.
Wow, you really are good at this. It makes me think of all the possibilities there are.
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I'm surprised Malte hasn't written a five page essay here yet. :P:
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If you think about it, who's to say that the LBT universe is set on Earth, 65 million+ years ago? It could be on a different planet for all we know. Similar to the video game Populous the Beginning. There are a lot of Earth-like worlds, but there is NO indication that the location is in the same "dimension" (for lack of a better term).
And as for fan fiction, Time Gate X by Cyberlizard (I loved that fan fiction! SF + LBT + plenty of action = interesting story. I wish you didn't discontinue it. :cry2) appears to be set in the same dimension as ours.
So canonically (neologism), it seems that the LBT universe isn't quite the same as ours (talking dinos anyone? :lol And not to mention the supernatural <Saurus Rock appearing from the ground and lightning seems to be running over the formation>. I also noticed that geological events seem to be MUCH more violent in their world than ours.).
In fan fic, YOU chose where to set it.
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Ahh, contraire...! In the of the movies, the Narrator specifically states that it IS, in fact, the planet Earth...!
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I've mentioned, and agree, that LBT is not this earth in the past, but another universe. As for the formation of Saurus rock, remember that was a story of Grandpa Longneck we were seeing, a tale of the past. Maybe the distant past. It may have happened exactly as shown, or it may have been altered over the years. If you've seen the episode The Spooky Nighttime Adventure you'll see a story passed down that is not totally true.
It is quite possible the telling was altered over time, humans do that, even without meaning to do so. It may have been another earth shake that made the ground rise, maybe days, weeks, months, years or even more then years later. The tellings may have combined the two events over the generations.
Like with Cera's adding on a bit at the end of the story the grandpa longneck told in the 6th movie. She may keep that part liking the effects it has on her audience and to her may make the story more interesting when she is an adult and tells it. The listeners may know know Cera added on that part and generations later it may be thought to have been an original part of the story.
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Well, anything is possible, but this is one of those cases where I'd have to respectfully disagree with you... I've always seen it as Earth, just a really super long time ago - and I'm a full-blown Creationist. Then again, let's all try to remember that it's merely a cartoon, before we all get carried away... So, yeah, I'm just gonna have to leave it at that, and go by what I do know, based on the series, and the narrator.
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I'm surprised Malte hasn't written a five page essay here yet.
On the one hand I have a lot of things to deal with at the moment, cutting my GOF time and on the other hand I don't expect anything I say in this to be minded much. Everyone knows my stand on types of fanfiction and other matters addressed in this thread. For lack of time and effect it may sometimes be just less futile to keep mum.
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just relax,
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Schoolwork takes up the time of many members here.
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Yeah... I remember when it used to take up my time... I'm glad that's over with now...
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I can't remember where where I posted it, but I have a unique theory about the rainbowfaces:
Thousands of years ago, they were living just like all the other dinosaurs in the world. However, they had such great intelligence and imagination that they developed civilization. Eventually, the dinosaur world resembles the human world, except in place of humans are rainbowfaces (and maybe a few of other kinds). Then a series of catastrophes strike, which turn out to be the result of the existence of civilization. The civilized dinosaurs decide to leave the planet, becoming citizens of space. The others that chose to stay behind go back to the old, uncivilized ways. Virtually every trace of civilization disappears after no more than a thousand years.
I know, this theory is very complex. Unique, but complex.
I got the idea for my theory after I watched a program on the History Channel called 'Life After People'. It was about what would happen to everything humans created if everyone on the planet were to suddenly disappear. Wood rots, steel rusts, concrete crumbles. After only one or two thousand years, the only remaining traces would be massive stone structures, and there's really not that many in the world. Eventually, millions of years of erosion would cause even stone structures to disappear.
One day, I thought, 'if human civilization could disappear that easily, why not other civilizations?' For all we know, many civilized creatures may have come before us, and we would very likely never know about them. When I thought about LBT, the rainbowfaces seemed to fit this idea perfectly, so long as enough time had passed. The age of the dinosaurs lasted millions of years, and it only requires a few thousand years for virtually all traces of a civilization to disappear due to the forces of nature, so time wasn't a problem for the theory.
Who knows, my theory could inspire some fanfiction. One possible idea is that the gang discovers an ancient structure built thousands of years ago, and they explore it to find out who built it.
I know, it seems kind of strange for me to be quoting myself (even to do it twice at once), but this is a very interesting theory that I had come up with, and some people here agree with me on how interesting it is. It's been such a long time since I've even mentioned it that I'm curious to see what some of the newer members here think about it.
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Thousands of years ago, they were living just like all the other dinosaurs in the world. However, they had such great intelligence and imagination that they developed civilization. Eventually, the dinosaur world resembles the human world, except in place of humans are rainbowfaces (and maybe a few of other kinds). Then a series of catastrophes strike, which turn out to be the result of the existence of civilization. The civilized dinosaurs decide to leave the planet, becoming citizens of space. The others that chose to stay behind go back to the old, uncivilized ways. Virtually every trace of civilization disappears after no more than a thousand years
The idea is an interesting one but it seems too complecated, the simplest answer is usually the correct one. First off for a race that advanced it would take tens or hundreds of thousands of years for all traces to dissapear. Plus it wouldn't be possible for a race to advance past what we would consider 18th century tech. As much as we have grown to hate them we have them to thank for the past 200 years of advancment, and the massive stores of oil, natural gas, and coal we have today just would not have existed than, they were just being created. Technaclly we're burning Littlefoot and co in our cars everyday (sad :cry I know, also not a 100% factual but the fossile fuels still wouldn't have exsited)
My theory is a bit simpler, martians. Sounds crazy at first but many theories suggest Mars would have been habitable, if dying, during the time of the dinosaurs. An advanced enough race would absolutly visit earth, just like we visit mars today. If they beleived enough in non-interference, but still had a curiosity that even approched the level of our own, they would have done exactly what the rainbow faces did.
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The idea is an interesting one but it seems too complecated, the simplest answer is usually the correct one. First off for a race that advanced it would take tens or hundreds of thousands of years for all traces to dissapear. Plus it wouldn't be possible for a race to advance past what we would consider 18th century tech. As much as we have grown to hate them we have them to thank for the past 200 years of advancment, and the massive stores of oil, natural gas, and coal we have today just would not have existed than, they were just being created. Technaclly we're burning Littlefoot and co in our cars everyday (sad :cry I know, also not a 100% factual but the fossile fuels still wouldn't have exsited)
I am interested to see you pointing out possible flaws with my theory, flaws that I will, obviously, try to disprove. (Yes, I have pointed out multiple times that my theory is quite complicated, but if you take the time to understand the facts, it can make sense.)
First, the time required. The age of the dinosaurs lasted well over 100 million years, and since we have no idea when the events of LBT occur, this is more than enough time to allow my theory to be plausible.
Second, I am well aware of the necessity of fossil fuels to allow an advanced civilization to develop. Geology is among the somewhat interesting topics to me, and from it I know that most of today's fossil fuels formed during the Carboniferous period, which was no less than 100 million years before the age of the dinosaurs. This means they might not have as much available as we do, but likely enough to get by.
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ahhhh, true, my mistake. I suppose it is possible than. Hmmmm.... Can't think of any other holes in ur theory right now, so it is plausible.
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I might have a theory, but its probably unlikely.. Remember the struthiumimus(However you spell it) that tried stealing littlefoots egg in movie 1? What if that was Ozzy or Strut(Probably Ozzy).
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It could have been, a teen or young adult version maybe.
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I might have a theory, but its probably unlikely.. Remember the struthiumimus(However you spell it) that tried stealing littlefoots egg in movie 1? What if that was Ozzy or Strut(Probably Ozzy).
I must disagree with that theory for this reason:
If that was Ozzy, that would mean that Ozzy would have likely been following the moving herds, trying to snatch eggs whenever he could. I don't believe this to be true because in LBT 2, we hear, near the end of the movie, the grownups are clearly shocked to hear about "Eggnappers??" in the Great Valley. Now, why would this be so shocking if Ozzy had followed them all the way there?
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then again look at the credits, we can see an eggnapper in a cave that could be the same cave littlefoot and the gang followed them too. And what Ozzy said "I like this place. yes, yes i like this place alot!" that could mean they too arrived to the great valley recently too. and if the eggnapper that tried to steal littlefoots egg was Ozzy then he probably stayed quite a ways away after the tail whip littlefoots mother gave him. then he probably found littlefoot some time after the battle between the sharptooth and his mother (Probably where littlefoot first met ducky) and heard littlefoot talking to ducky about the great valley and thought "Maybe thats where the herd might be, and where there's a heard, theres eggs.. I think i might stay close to them for a while."
But as i said, probably unlikely. but hey, imagination works, right? :)
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It could be. Though more likely it was some npc eggeater. One could just as easily say it was Ozzy.
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The looks were extremely different though, not just color wise but also the LBT 1 eggsnatcher had some kind of bumps on the arms. As LBT 2 wasn't even dreamed of by the time the original movie was made it can be taken for granted that the producers did not have that idea in mind.
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The arm bumples could have been with the way they were drawn, like sharptooth. that one had bumples yet in the rest of the movies, no bumples. Another example is Secrets of N.I.M.H, The Great Owl and Nicodemus
the reason for the coloring might probably be from the time of day, or like Kor said:
It could have been, a teen or young adult version maybe.
But then again, almost all Struthiumimus look the same. Take the herd of egg nappers in the 4th movie for example, clone war of Ozzy.. which could arise as another theory.. :confused :slap Although it has a greater possability for Ozzy to be in that same herd in the 4th movie (if he and strut did escape chompers parents..) then him stealing littlefoots egg in the 1st. heck, he could be the leader of the herd! :smile Still, there is a possability for movie 1. :lol
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I'm reviving this topic because I want to know what some of the newer members think of my theory about the Rainbowfaces from LBT 7. (I'll soon be starting an RP based on that theory) For those of you who are too lazy to find it in this topic, I'll quote myself, again.
I can't remember where where I posted it, but I have a unique theory about the rainbowfaces:
Thousands of years ago, they were living just like all the other dinosaurs in the world. However, they had such great intelligence and imagination that they developed civilization. Eventually, the dinosaur world resembles the human world, except in place of humans are rainbowfaces (and maybe a few of other kinds). Then a series of catastrophes strike, which turn out to be the result of the existence of civilization. The civilized dinosaurs decide to leave the planet, becoming citizens of space. The others that chose to stay behind go back to the old, uncivilized ways. Virtually every trace of civilization disappears after no more than a thousand years.
I know, this theory is very complex. Unique, but complex.
I got the idea for my theory after I watched a program on the History Channel called 'Life After People'. It was about what would happen to everything humans created if everyone on the planet were to suddenly disappear. Wood rots, steel rusts, concrete crumbles. After only one or two thousand years, the only remaining traces would be massive stone structures, and there's really not that many in the world. Eventually, millions of years of erosion would cause even stone structures to disappear.
One day, I thought, 'if human civilization could disappear that easily, why not other civilizations?' For all we know, many civilized creatures may have come before us, and we would very likely never know about them. When I thought about LBT, the rainbowfaces seemed to fit this idea perfectly, so long as enough time had passed. The age of the dinosaurs lasted millions of years, and it only requires a few thousand years for virtually all traces of a civilization to disappear due to the forces of nature, so time wasn't a problem for the theory.
Who knows, my theory could inspire some fanfiction. One possible idea is that the gang discovers an ancient structure built thousands of years ago, and they explore it to find out who built it.
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I read your theory the first time you posted it in this thread, and my first reaction was, :slap “Why the heck didn’t I think of that?!” (And I’ve seen Life After People myself!)
Needless to say, I think it’s a brilliant theory; I certainly like it a lot better than the idea of the rainbow faces being shapeshifting extraterrestrials (though that was probably closer to what the makers of LBT VII had in mind <_<).
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It's a neat idea and it can fit. They don't really say what they are so they could be really rainbowfaces, just from some advanced society on another world, instead of et's, or they could be et's.