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Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => The Arts => Sound Off! => Topic started by: Amaranthine on May 03, 2008, 10:27:53 PM
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I think they're called something else, but I'm not quite sure...:p
I love these three bands: Nightwish, Within Temptation, and Evanescence.
Yeah, I guess Nightwish and Within Temptation are a bit more "opera-like". While Evanescence is a more of an Alternative Metal band with some similarities to Opera.
The songs I love from Nightwish include:
Phantom of the Opera (I'm a HUGE POTO fan)
Beauty and the Beast (The guy's voice was a bit strange..but eh...that's Metal for ya)
Cadence of her Last Breath
Ocean Soul
Nemo
probably many other songs I can't think of right now....:p
Within Temptation:
Mother Earth
Never Ending Story
Angels
Our Solemn Hour
The Howling
Forgiven
The Cross
Jillian
Somewhere
Memories
The Howling
Evanescence:
My Immortal
Sweet Sacrifice
Hello
Whisper
Bring me to Life
Snow White Queen (yeah..it is creepy...and sad...but I like the music quality of it all)
Haunted(same with this one, it's creepy, but I love the music quality of it all)
I love these bands mostly because their songs have meaning and depth, unlike a lot of bands and groups I hear. They are very original as well.
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I approve! :D
Nightwish has lost some of their "operatic" elements since they changed out their lead singer as of their most recent album, "Dark Passion Play". I am happy with Nightwish's evolution though, pushing towards symphonic metal for many of their tracks. I find their music has so much more depth than nearly anything else I've heard. Writing songs for a full rock band, choir and orchestra is a long way from an easy task and I applaud Nightwish for taking it on.
Bottom line though...I do think losing Tarja as the lead singer has hurt the band. The new singer, while she isn't that bad, she's very different and I can definitely hear her struggling to sing some of the songs. I really don't think her voice is as trained as Tarja's is.
I must admit though, their latest album, "Dark Passion Play" was a little rougher than I would have liked. Thinking back to "Once", with "Ghost Love Score" for instance, the song was very elegant, beautiful, coherant and powerful. Comparing GLS to the "equivalently-epic" (10:01 for ghost love score, 13:53 for Poet and the Pendulum) song on "Dark Passion Play", "The Poet and the Pendulum", they are of very different musical styles while utilizing the same basic instruments.
The Poet and the Pendulum would have earned more of my respect if a few key differences existed:
1) The opening was too sudden and too static. For 1:20, we hear atmospheric-like music, which is fine except there is so little fluctuation, progression, development, etc. The track opens up with a few seconds that sound like the opening was almost "cut off" and we started a little bit into the intro. Perhaps just something subtle I feel with the track but it's taking me a little getting used to.
2) In the middle section of the song, the aggressive vocals are a turnoff for many listeners. I find this section takes away with so much of the elegance that has been built up in this song prior. To be fair, it is a stylistic choice. I am just surprised that Nightwish would take such an aggressive stance on an otherwise beautifully-powerful song.
I don't fully understand the song but from what I know of it I'm not a huge fan of its performance. It's very good in some parts but it lacks in others.
The Dark Passion Play album in general has a few musical themes which seem to be consistant throughout many of the tracks, specifically the use of chromatic notes (I'll post up some recordings to show you what I mean) on transitions and on the heavier parts of many songs, typically on the guitars or the orchestra. The number of times this occurs on the album made me think it was some sort of theme that ties the album together.
Here are clips from some of the songs on Dark Passion Play to show you what I mean:
Amaranth (http://search3.idrive.com/driveway/jsp/dway_download.jsp?id=p5s9t0y5o8)
Poet and the Pendulum (http://search3.idrive.com/driveway/jsp/dway_download.jsp?id=r8p1c0o0c3)
Master passion Greed (http://search3.idrive.com/driveway/jsp/dway_download.jsp?id=h7k6q9j3v7)
Sahara (http://search3.idrive.com/driveway/jsp/dway_download.jsp?id=k9d9u6n4n5)
Whoever Brings the Night (http://search3.idrive.com/driveway/jsp/dway_download.jsp?id=o7k5r5s3c7)
I love what Nightwish does when they utilize their more elegant and beautiful sides. I don't mean just the slower stuff; some of their upbeat tracks are very elegantly powerful (see Ghost Love Score, Nemo, Planet Hell, Dark Chest of Wonders, Amaranth, etc.)
Beauty and the Beast (The guy's voice was a bit strange..but eh...that's Metal for ya)
Toumas (the man, actually he's the keyboard player for Nightwish) has sung in a few other Nightwish songs as well. In one version of this song, Nightwish and Sonata Arctica (another Finnish metal band whom I respect) performed it together with Tony Kakko taking over as the male lead singer. He's actually very good. :)
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I am definitely a fan of this style of music. I think it's also called symphonic metal. The groups here I definitely heard and enjoyed was Nightwish, Evanescence, and Rhapsody. The only other group I've heard of but not actually their music was Symphony X. I'm not sure if a few of Skillet's albums could fit into this category, but I personally hear similar elements in their songs.
I certainly could tell the difference between albums when Nightwish changed their female vocals, and I believed Tarja's singing was absolutely perfect for their style of music.
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WOOT!
These types of bands are totally awesome.
Fav. Song from the bands I know:
Evanescence:
My Immortal, Bring Me to Life
Nightwish:
Meadows of Heaven, The Kinslayer
Within Temptation
Our Solemn Hour
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I'm going to see Nightwish live in a couple of weeks! I'm sure it will be a blast!
I bought my ticket back in December...the show was sold out by February and it's in May..This is Nightwish's first tour to Western Canada so I'm not surprised that it sold out so fast. :P: :wow
I'm really looking forward to it though!
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Yep, these are very good music! :yes
I specialy fancy Evanescene and Nightwish.
/Lillefot
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I am definitely a fan of this style of music. I think it's also called symphonic metal.
Thank you! I knew it was called something else, I just couldn't find the right words :huh: :P:
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I'm going to see Nightwish live in a couple of weeks! I'm sure it will be a blast!
I bought my ticket back in December...the show was sold out by February and it's in May..This is Nightwish's first tour to Western Canada so I'm not surprised that it sold out so fast. :P: :wow
I'm really looking forward to it though!
Lucky! I wish I could go to one of their concerts :p
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Lucky! I wish I could go to one of their concerts
Here is a list of all of their upcoming tours. Maybe you can still get in on one if you really want to. :yes
http://www.nightwish.com/en/live (http://www.nightwish.com/en/live)
(Funny how the two shows in Alberta, Canada are the only ones that sold out...then again, my friends and I probably bought up half of the tickets! :lol
I'll be at the Calgary show. :p)
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Yes! They'll be in Phoenix in September! I have GOT to see them live!
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Lucky! I wish I could go to one of their concerts
Here is a list of all of their upcoming tours. Maybe you can still get in on one if you really want to. :yes
http://www.nightwish.com/en/live (http://www.nightwish.com/en/live)
(Funny how the two shows in Alberta, Canada are the only ones that sold out...then again, my friends and I probably bought up half of the tickets! :lol
I'll be at the Calgary show. :p)
Awww thank you! ^^ That's really nice of you to do that :)
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Yes! They'll be in Phoenix in September! I have GOT to see them live!
Good luck!
Awww thank you! ^^ That's really nice of you to do that
No worries. :)
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Wooo, just got back from the Nightwish concert and oh man, that was Awesome!! :D :wow :wow
They ended up playing, in approximately this order:
Bye Bye Beautiful
Whoever Brings the Night
Dark Chest of Wonders
The Islander
The Siren
Amaranth
Last of the Wilds
The Poet and the Pendulum
Sacrament of Wilderness (wicked keyboard solo! :p)
Sahara
Nemo
7 Days to the Wolves
Dead to the World
I Wish I Had an Angel
so it was actually a huge production! I was amazed how much material they actually performed; truly an Amazing show! :wow
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i hear some of that stuff that action9000 posted and it alright but it sounds realy weird to me :blink:
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Too bad they didn't play Fantasmic. :p :p
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Too bad they didn't play Fantasmic.
That's actually the second thing I thought after I left the concert (the first being how awesome it was). :p :lol
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Would've probably had to pay The Mouse some major money to sing it since it is an active attraction. :p
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Close enough: :p
Nightwish - Fantasmic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv3VXWRO56o)
and yes, this song is awesome. :D :lol
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Wooo, just got back from the Nightwish concert and oh man, that was Awesome!! :D :wow :wow
They ended up playing, in approximately this order:
Bye Bye Beautiful
Whoever Brings the Night
Dark Chest of Wonders
The Islander
The Siren
Amaranth
Last of the Wilds
The Poet and the Pendulum
Sacrament of Wilderness (wicked keyboard solo! :p)
Sahara
Nemo
7 Days to the Wolves
Dead to the World
I Wish I Had an Angel
so it was actually a huge production! I was amazed how much material they actually performed; truly an Amazing show! :wow
Cool! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D though I wish they sang, "Cadance of her Last Breath". I don't know why I love that song, I just do...
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Hey, on youtube, I found videos of the Calgary concert I was at!
Might as well post links. :D
The sound quality is horrible, sadly. Consumer-quality recording equipment can't capture audio in a room this loud. :lol That's why I didn't bother trying to record anything.
Bye Bye Beautiful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0IUVpImtDU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0IUVpImtDU)
The Islander:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by-DspEsk1Y&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by-DspEsk1Y&NR=1)
wish I had an Angel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BCiGIRov7M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BCiGIRov7M)
This is probably the best one:
Highlights!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zre08OB0Xrc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zre08OB0Xrc)
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I went to the show in Tempe last night...and it was AWESOME!!!
They did the same order as in the Calgary concert, but the night actually started off with another rock group called Sonata Artica and a few of their own songs. They're very good too, so now I'm looking for more of their albums.
But this was definitely one of my most favorite performances! Both my arms and shoulders hurt just by shaking them to the beat! :lol: I just hope I had enough money for the T-Shirt... :bang
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but the night actually started off with another rock group called Sonata Artica and a few of their own songs. They're very good too, so now I'm looking for more of their albums.
:o Sonata Arctica opened for Nightwish at your show? MAAAN okay that would have been an awesome night! I love their music too. :P: :D
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I've heard of them also, but I never heard any music from them. :p I'll check them out one of these days.