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The Land Before Time => LBT Fanfiction => Topic started by: Vilstrup on November 25, 2008, 02:40:12 AM

Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 25, 2008, 02:40:12 AM
I'm planning to write a LBT/Primeval cross-over. However, I can't really chose between the characters, so which one do you think would be the best to throw into present day London?
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 25, 2008, 06:21:54 PM
I've never heard of Primeval.  But one consideration is, do you have some favorite characters, ones you feel you can handle well and write well in a story.  Do certain characters feel like they'd add to the plot, maybe adding sub plots of their own, or have certain purposes?  

Some like Petrie and Guido could be scouts and if seen by modern londoners while they are in the sky may mistake them for birds, especially Guido who has feathers, but Petrie also, especially in twilight and at night, or foggy days.  

Ducky is small so maybe easy to go unnoticed.  

Just a few thoughts I had, not sure if they will help any.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Zilla on November 25, 2008, 06:32:11 PM
It all depends on what sort of a story you want and how many characters you want to throw into the mix. In my personal opinion i would say the original five, but i think chomper would also work.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 26, 2008, 02:11:03 AM
It'll be one character, chased by a predator, possible Red Claw, and then they pass through the Anomaly, appearing on a highway near London.

One of the characters I'm considering the most, is Shorty. I want it to be someone outside the Valley, so I might come up with a sequal later on.

How the characters from Primeval will handle a T-rex in the middle of London, I'm still not sure.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 26, 2008, 04:43:57 AM
If you do Shorty then it does not have to be near the Great Valley but could be anywhere.  

No idea how the primeval folks would respond, who and whatever that is, but the regular folks would likely have the police show up first, then try to get the military in there since they are more combat trained and can bring in planes and heavy weapons and tanks against it.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 26, 2008, 11:35:23 AM
oh, I forgot to mention.

I will write this from Shorty point of view, which means, I can make another story later, seen from the Primeval characters point of view.

I do hope to make a sequel, though it will take some time before I even get to that point.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 26, 2008, 04:48:44 PM
Good luck on that.  Try to let the characters write instead of you writing, if that makes any sense, and also do the amount of writing at a time that seems comfortable,
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: The Chronicler on November 26, 2008, 05:54:44 PM
For a start, you're going to have Shorty and Redclaw somehow suddenly appear in London? Not bad for a start.
May I make a suggestion? Instead of having them appear on the highway, how about in a park or something like that. The highway would seem a little dangerous to them :! .
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 26, 2008, 09:56:17 PM
Maybe a bit apart from each other.  One of the good guys or good girls/women may see Shorty, depending on how fast you want them to meet each other.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 27, 2008, 02:32:38 AM
hmmmm, might think about having Conner and Abby sitting in a CafË, when first Shorty, then Red Claw runs by.

Wondering though, anybody knows how much you need to sedate an Elephant?
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 27, 2008, 06:54:11 AM
I've no idea how much, but as I recall, and it may be wrong since I've not seen the program for 30 years, or more, when I use to watch wild kingdom they use to shoot elephants with a tranquilizer dart from a helicopter using a special dart tranquilizer rifle.  Though maybe they did it from jeep, some animals they did from jeep.  As I recall they would have to inject it with some sort of drug to undue the effects after the examination and putting on a tracking collar and paining on a number and tagging was done.  

Reminds me of Jim having to run a lot from various animals, and Marlin Perkins wrestling with some sort of large snake in water.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 27, 2008, 10:43:32 AM
Thanks for the info, Kor, that is exactly the thing I could use, though I think it will be a pretty heavy caliber.

"Using a rifle, Connor aimed for the huge T'rex. Either the shot would sedate the huge animal.... or the dart would break because of the animals thick skin."
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 27, 2008, 11:50:24 PM
They may indeed have a situation like that.  :)
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 28, 2008, 02:28:16 AM
I think I'll use that line later, when I make the story from Conner's view point.

But I'll use Shorty, who is seperated from Bron's herd, and runs into the anomaly, where he will appear in London, in the year of your lord 2008/2009.

Might see the second Jurassic Park movie again, to get a better impression of, how people will react when a huge T-rex runs through the streets.

However, I was thinking about, that Red Claw will only go after Shorty, because Shorty bleed a little, which Red Claw got the scent of. Pretty much like a bloodhound.

Would that be realistic, or should I have Red Claw eat a few humans before he gets back through the anomaly?
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Serris on November 28, 2008, 02:30:38 AM
Quote from: Vilstrup,Nov 28 2008 on  01:28 AM
Would that be realistic, or should I have Red Claw eat a few humans before he gets back through the anomaly?
I think Shorty might provide more meat to Redclaw than a human.

Shorty probably weighs in the 500+ pound range and humans are in the 160 or so range.

Redclaw eating some humans in place of Shorty is like eating a piece of popcorn vs a burger.

However, you could have Redclaw trample some humans on his way back
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 28, 2008, 02:35:37 AM
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However, you could have Redclaw trample some humans on his way back

Nahh, that wouldn't quite work, because he will be driven back, through the anomaly in an "controlled" eviroment. It would be in his chase after Shorty, that a few humans have to leave their lifes.

On the other hand, how tall is Shorty??
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Serris on November 28, 2008, 02:45:31 AM
I'd imagine Shorty to be the height of a pony from the ground to the top of his head. (~ 4'7" or so)
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 28, 2008, 02:47:47 AM
Think I'll need to see the X movie again, and see how big he is next to a T-rex's footprint and then meassure from there.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 28, 2008, 07:15:10 AM
He may attempt to eat a few humans if he can if he follows Shorty's scent.  Not sure how he'd like the smell of car exhaust and other modern smells he'd be exposed to.  

As to how humans would react, I guess most would say some equivalent to "eek" or some cuss word and attempt to run away.  Police and other specially trained may attempt to cover the civilians and shoot at him while calling for backup, if any type of police have guns in the London of your world.  

I expect most humans would react the same to seeing Shorty.  He's not some dog running down the street.   To most humans he's a strange looking monster, though a small one.   Some may be prone to try to drive him away.  Except to some paleontologists or folks who really know dinos.  I can't see Bob Baker or John Horner running away from Shorty, or James Gurney for that matter.  Some folks may try to get a picture or video of Shorty with their cell phones.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 28, 2008, 03:19:24 PM
The reaction will of cause be mixed, but how Red Claw, and Shorty will react to the smell of cars and industry, I hadn't thought of. Thanks for that.

Think the Primeval characters will have a hard time covering up, a T-rex appearance.  :p
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 28, 2008, 03:47:58 PM
A common thing is to say it is mass illusion, though I dislike the way so many say that.  They may try to make sure it's not mentioned in the news, or pass it off as a publicity stunt by some movie folks or something.  Or maybe an animatronic (not sure how to spell it) t-rex that some have seen in the traveling shows.  I think walking with dinosaurs has  those.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 28, 2008, 04:06:07 PM
I believe BBC where in the Primeval project, so might be a bit ironic, if the animatronics were from BBC :p
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 28, 2008, 10:27:59 PM
Wonder if folks would manage to get any cellphone pictures or video of Short or Red Claw, something else they may need to watch out for.  Or actual pictures for those with a camera or video camera.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 29, 2008, 06:15:52 AM
A lot of material is to be confiscated after the incident. Or a major story that will automatically make all the pictures untrustworthy or useless.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 29, 2008, 03:10:47 PM
Good idea and thinking.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 29, 2008, 04:21:30 PM
Question is... what could be made up like that? What explanation could possibly make all the pictures taken, worthless or useless?
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Serris on November 29, 2008, 05:05:59 PM
You could explain that it was a publicity stunt.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 29, 2008, 10:32:13 PM
Or some pranks done by some college kids, or engineering majors.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on November 30, 2008, 05:53:01 AM
April Fools joke... that would be a good one, or a unheard group that prepares for an alien invasion, and have to see how people react to a monster, chasing them.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on November 30, 2008, 09:18:11 PM
Sounds like you are having ideas.  Best to write them down so you can look them over later.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on December 01, 2008, 02:07:46 AM
well, I don't have that many ideas, and those I've got, is written in this topic
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on December 01, 2008, 10:28:33 AM
It's a start at least.  You have ideas how long it is from when Shorty and Red Claw appear in the city to when the other main characters get to where one or both of them are?
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on December 01, 2008, 03:23:27 PM
We're talking hours, maybe a day or two at the most.
However, I have an idea about, that both Red Claw and Shorty will be caught, but they will be seperately sent back, to their time.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Kor on December 01, 2008, 10:15:55 PM
That makes sense.  It would be more urgent, obviously, to send Red Claw back, and he'd be not wanting to hide.  Less urgent, maybe, to send Shorty back, and maybe harder to find him if he is trying to hide, or just going around to try to find his way to the Great Valley, or back to where Bron was.   He'd understand the language of the others around so could maybe learn a few things of where he was.
Title: LBT cross-over
Post by: Vilstrup on December 02, 2008, 02:22:35 AM
Yeah though what do you mean by "the others"?.
However the anomaly won't be up forever, so they'll have a limited time to send both Red Claw and Shorty back.