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Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => The Fridge => Topic started by: JBJB1029 on May 06, 2009, 12:59:26 AM

Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 06, 2009, 12:59:26 AM
Can you hear Thunder inside a cave, even if the cave is sealed up?
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: Malte279 on May 06, 2009, 04:41:12 AM
Let's put it like this, how many of us have already been in a sealed up cave during a thunderstorm so they could tell from firsthand experience? :rolleyes:
I suppose it would depend on how loud the thunder is, how deep you are within the cave, how tightly it is sealed up, and how good your ears are.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 06, 2009, 09:36:07 AM
I would say it depends on how close the storm was to the cave, or more specifically, how close the lightning bolt strike is. It's lightning that causes the sound of thunder.

Depending on how close it is, you could probably even feel the thunder sound in the ground.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 06, 2009, 10:16:50 AM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,May 6 2009 on  08:36 AM
I would say it depends on how close the storm was to the cave, or more specifically, how close the lightning bolt strike is. It's lightning that causes the sound of thunder.

Depending on how close it is, you could probably even feel the thunder sound in the ground.
If the storm is ontop of the cave, then will they be able to hear it or not?
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: Nick22 on May 06, 2009, 10:18:27 AM
Wow.. this is a completely random question.. and the answer is yes..
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 06, 2009, 10:25:20 AM
Yes, if the storm was taking place in the exact same location as the cave, they would hear it. It would also pose a danger. Lightning strikes, depending on what they strike and how dry it is (lightning can occur in both dry and wet weather), it could start a fire and the smoke could seem through the cracks in the opening and if the characters don't get out quickly, they could choke on the smoke.

Not entirely sure, but if lightning struck the cave, it could generate enough force to cause rocks to crack and fall and if the characters don't get out of the way, they could get struck by the falling pieces.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: Saft on May 06, 2009, 11:19:41 AM
Intriguing question as although I have not had first hand experience within a cave (I've never been in a cave to begin with, odd how that happens..)  I would say that the answer would be yes.  Yes the person or persons would be able to hear the thunder within the cave.  

...May have to try that out one day for a science experiment. :)
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: Malte279 on May 06, 2009, 02:52:06 PM
I've been in several caves, but never during a thunderstorm. You mentioned that cave is to be sealed up. What kind of sealing up is it that we are talking about? If the only entrance to the cave collapses and is blocked by cubic meters of rock and dirt there is a good thing you won't hear anything of the thunder outside.
What kind of sealing up is it? And also how deep are the characters into the cave? Caves can be very long and only a limited amount of sound waves would likely hit the entrance of the cave so exactly as to be heard very far. Then again with the limited possibilities of dispersion and the resulting echo a noise created within a cave may be heard for a much longer distance than the same noise would be heared outside... but now I'm entering "The cave of the many voices"-territory ;)
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: Saft on May 06, 2009, 03:42:37 PM
Yes, variables are important.  I figured that the hypothetical person would be standing near to the cave's entrance.  

However, it depends on the variables.  

(a)Whether the cave is deep or not.
(b)Where the person is standing.

Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 06, 2009, 10:17:49 PM
Quote from: Saft,May 6 2009 on  02:42 PM
Yes, variables are important.  I figured that the hypothetical person would be standing near to the cave's entrance.  

However, it depends on the variables.  

(a)Whether the cave is deep or not.
(b)Where the person is standing.
The Cave will almost be like the the abandoned observatory that they found shelter in from the Spinosaurus in Jurassic Park III.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 06, 2009, 10:24:38 PM
I don't think natural caves are formed like that, though.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 06, 2009, 10:35:57 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,May 6 2009 on  09:24 PM
I don't think natural caves are formed like that, though.
It's just an example, the cave will lead to a canyon. Just like the abandoned observatory lead to a Aviary.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on May 06, 2009, 10:42:09 PM
I've spent time in numerous caves, but never during a thunderstorm, so I dunno ;).  Maybe it would be yes.  Have ya checked Google or Yahoo?
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 07, 2009, 11:22:33 PM
Quote from: Cancerian Tiger,May 6 2009 on  09:42 PM
I've spent time in numerous caves, but never during a thunderstorm, so I dunno ;).  Maybe it would be yes.  Have ya checked Google or Yahoo?
No :unsure: ?
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 07, 2009, 11:30:18 PM
If you want to know if you can hear thunder while inside a cave, you could try doing a search on Google or Yahoo and see if something comes up.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 08, 2009, 10:21:00 AM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,May 7 2009 on  10:30 PM
If you want to know if you can hear thunder while inside a cave, you could try doing a search on Google or Yahoo and see if something comes up.
And if nothing comes up, then what?
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 08, 2009, 10:31:53 AM
Read books on thunder storms and caves, probably, or try to ask someone who knows about storms and caves and such.

Is whether or not you can hear thunder inside a cave really that important of a factor for your story?
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 09, 2009, 12:37:08 AM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,May 8 2009 on  09:31 AM
Read books on thunder storms and caves, probably, or try to ask someone who knows about storms and caves and such.

Is whether or not you can hear thunder inside a cave really that important of a factor for your story?
It is important for the 19th Land Before Time movie.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: Malte279 on May 09, 2009, 05:32:26 AM
^ For your fanfiction you mean. Please stop referring to your fanfictions as movies like they were anything to be greenlit to be released by universals. It will just cause confusion.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 09, 2009, 09:37:59 AM
I don't honestly see how hearing thunder inside a cave could possibly be an important element to the story. No offense or anything.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 09, 2009, 04:33:34 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,May 9 2009 on  08:37 AM
I don't honestly see how hearing thunder inside a cave could possibly be an important element to the story. No offense or anything.
Non takin, but you'll find out when you see the movie example. It's not yet done, but it will be done before the summer ends.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 09, 2009, 05:31:32 PM
What movie example?
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 09, 2009, 07:43:49 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,May 9 2009 on  04:31 PM
What movie example?
I'm making a Movie example for the 19th Land Before Time Movie.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 09, 2009, 07:53:24 PM
So you're writing a scene for the fanfic?
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 10, 2009, 02:05:22 AM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,May 9 2009 on  06:53 PM
So you're writing a scene for the fanfic?
I'm not writing it, I'm actually making a movie of it.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: DarkHououmon on May 10, 2009, 10:03:26 AM
Any particular reason why you keep referring to your ideas as movies as if they were something greenlighted by Universal and are absolutely being made and are going to be released soon?

There is absolutely no proof that any of these story ideas will become movies. So it makes no sense to refer to them as movies as if they are actually going to be made. These story ideas are, as far as I'm concerned, fanfiction, or potential roleplaying material.

If you continue to refer to your ideas as movies, it's only going to bring about confusion.

No offense intended or anything.
Title: Hearing Thunder
Post by: JBJB1029 on May 10, 2009, 02:00:19 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,May 10 2009 on  09:03 AM
Any particular reason why you keep referring to your ideas as movies as if they were something greenlighted by Universal and are absolutely being made and are going to be released soon?

There is absolutely no proof that any of these story ideas will become movies. So it makes no sense to refer to them as movies as if they are actually going to be made. These story ideas are, as far as I'm concerned, fanfiction, or potential roleplaying material.

If you continue to refer to your ideas as movies, it's only going to bring about confusion.

No offense intended or anything.
Non takin, but exactly are you saying in short?