The Gang of Five
Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => Hobbies and Recreation => Computer and Electronics => Topic started by: pokeplayer984 on June 08, 2009, 11:30:19 AM
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Hi everyone!
I wanted to give you guys updates on how I'm doing with my upcoming LBT site.
Now, I ran into a problem very, very, VERY early into it's development. I was trying to create one at webs.com, but the big problem came when I found that NO LBT videos could be posted. Yep, none whatsoever. They were completely blocked by the site provider.
Weebly quickly held another problem. I couldn't make the site, period. They only allow up to two sites for free. I have to pay for up to 8 other sites I may want. So forget that, especially with the fact that I'll be short on cash soon. (Crappy work hours. I'll talk about it in the Walmart topic in After Midnight.)
And after a nice long search showing no one would help me here, I quickly found that I was on my own.
So now, I have found that I need to do it from scratch. No website provider. No nothing.
Luckily, I know how to search for what I need.
I have now created the basic design for the site with Photoshop, (It was actually quite easy.) and now I'll be using videos on how to put it into HTML, CSS and all the other stuff that's needed.
I'm sure there's something out there that can help me.
If things go well, I should have it all done sometime next week.
So, I'll see ya later! :)
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Well, well! I found the product that's needed. Well, two actually. :)
They are both at Download.com, both are said to be very easy to use and they are both highly recommended in the User Reviews for beginners such as myself. Also, they both have a very nice trial time and are at the lowest prices I've ever seen for a website designer. (Under $50.00 each!? Man, Dreamweaver is SUCH a rip-off!)
Here are the two I'm debating over:
Web Page Maker (http://download.cnet.com/Web-Page-Maker/3000-10247_4-10213459.html)
Artisteer (http://download.cnet.com/Artisteer/3000-10247_4-10886734.html?tag=mncol;pop)
The trial time is probably enough time to create the site completely and find the HTML coding and copy and paste it into NotePad or WordPad. So I may not need to buy them at all if things go well.
Wow! When it comes down to it, it really doesn't take much to create a website these days, does it? ;)
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Forget Web Page Maker Pokeplayer. Once you've exported it......editing it again is pure hell. Just download a few free books on HTML and CSS and you'll be having a good time real fast. I've got a few thousand great web templates you can use from back in the days when I needed help when making a website. It's really not that hard. Here. Download and take a look at this template. I think it's got potential:
http://lbtserver.2myip.net/UniversalUploadFolder/AND6.zip (http://lbtserver.2myip.net/UniversalUploadFolder/AND6.zip)
EDIT: Or if you want I'll give you the code to my first prototype for my Silverline Productions website. I wrote it from scratch in Notepad but it's pretty sophisticated nevertheless. You can take it on from where I left off. I turned that awesome template into something even more awesome. Let's see if you can do the same.
I might edit my existing Silverline Productions website template even more. I don't think it suits my needs entirely. What do you think of the website I have up so far? I've only spent 16 or so hours on it:
www.lbtserver.2myip.net/silverlineproductions/website (http://www.lbtserver.2myip.net/silverlineproductions/website)
If I do end up modifying it again, I'll give you my current prototype (minus the banner. That's mine buster. :p ).
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Mozilla Composer or Nvu is what I used for a while when making sites. That may help you out.
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Forget Web Page Maker Pokeplayer. Once you've exported it......editing it again is pure hell. Just download a few free books on HTML and CSS and you'll be having a good time real fast. I've got a few thousand great web templates you can use from back in the days when I needed help when making a website. It's really not that hard. Here. Download and take a look at this template. I think it's got potential:
http://lbtserver.2myip.net/UniversalUploadFolder/AND6.zip (http://lbtserver.2myip.net/UniversalUploadFolder/AND6.zip)
EDIT: Or if you want I'll give you the code to my first prototype for my Silverline Productions website. I wrote it from scratch in Notepad but it's pretty sophisticated nevertheless. You can take it on from where I left off. I turned that awesome template into something even more awesome. Let's see if you can do the same.
I might edit my existing Silverline Productions website template even more. I don't think it suits my needs entirely. What do you think of the website I have up so far? I've only spent 16 or so hours on it:
www.lbtserver.2myip.net/silverlineproductions/website (http://www.lbtserver.2myip.net/silverlineproductions/website)
If I do end up modifying it again, I'll give you my current prototype (minus the banner. That's mine buster. :p ).
Thanks! I'll check out those LBT Templates. (Although I already have gone to the trouble of creating the basic design look of my own.)
Also, that information for the site you did might come in handy. :D
EDIT: Oh, one last thing. I plan to make the ONLY one I have for life, okay? No changes whatsoever. The coding for it will be copied into a hard drive folder that I have already prepared and it will be backed up just in case I need to reinstall it for whatever reason.
Mozilla Composer or Nvu is what I used for a while when making sites. That may help you out.
Unfortunately, a little search showed that Mozilla Composer can no longer be used. The downloads are simply incompatible with some sort of programming on the web now.
Of course, there's plenty of free options these days. :^.^:
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I plan to make the ONLY one I have for life, okay? No changes whatsoever. The coding for it will be copied into a hard drive folder that I have already prepared and it will be backed up just in case I need to reinstall it for whatever reason.
Sorry to burst your bubble but you've got to change the design some time. The site eventually looks old and crappy. I made this website years ago for a school project in 4th grade and look how horrible it looks to us today:
http://www.freewebs.com/schoolcivilwar/Tab...%20Contents.htm (http://www.freewebs.com/schoolcivilwar/Table%20of%20Contents.htm)
Please note that it IS hosted on Freewebs, but it's in straight HTML.
The new Silverline Productions website will look pretty old and crappy in 5 years or so and I'll have to change it (though I'll probably change it before then for fun). No matter how advanced a website looks to us now, it's going to get old. You think GOF is going to look good in 5 years if Petrie doesn't touch it and Invisionfree doesn't upgrade its systems? Being a webmaster is a lot of work. You can't just slap it up on the net and leave it there for all time.
When I make a website from scratch, I don't plan at all. I just code code code and it eventually becomes something cool. It's not normally what I expected it to be.......it's usually better! :D You have to be able to make a website that's simple yet eye-catching. Like on my Silverline Productions website.....do you think those "Popular Images" serve any purpose whatsoever other than to make the site look a little better? There needed to be something on the side and the banner alone wasn't enough eye candy to get the job done. The last thing you want is your site to be boring, but it can't be too complicated either. As I said in an earlier thread.....making a website is an art. Not everyone can do a good job at it.
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Now on to the topic of coding. Here is a small part of the CSS of my Silverline Productions website. See how simply I code? I code so it's very easy to understand and edit because most of the time I can't remember my own associations! How much of this can you read Pokeplayer?
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body {
text-align: center;
background-color: #D5D0B0;
margin-top:10px;
margin-bottom:10px;
color:#D4A017;
background: #FFFFFF url('http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/entaustindame/paragraphbg.jpg');
}
A:link {
COLOR: #C86000; text-decoration: none
}
A:visited {
COLOR: #C86000; text-decoration: none
}
A:active {
COLOR: #C86000; text-decoration: none
}
A:hover {
COLOR: #b2431b; text-decoration: underline
}
#page_wrapper {
margin-left: auto;
margin-right: auto;
width: 760px;
text-align: left;
border: 4px solid #425227;
background: url('http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/entaustindame/darkermainbg.jpg');
}
#page_header {
height: 155px;
background: #FFFFFF url('http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/entaustindame/namedlogo_small.jpg') bottom left no-repeat;
clear: both;
}
#page_header h1 {
padding-top:50px; padding-left:15px;
margin:0px;
font-family: verdana;
font-size: 24px;
color: #FBD539;
line-height:26px;
letter-spacing:-1px;
}
#page_header h2 {
margin:0px;
padding-left:15px;
font-family: verdana;
font-size: 12px;
color: #D5D0B0;
line-height:22px;
}
Do you think you could edit this?
The actual HTML used in my website is quite slim. This is all of it minus the text that's on the page and the header:
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<body>
<br>
<br>
<div id='page_wrapper'>
<div id='page_header'>
</div>
<div id='menu_bar'>
<div id='navcontainer'>
<ul id='navlist'>
<li><a href='index.html'>Home</a></li>
<li><a href='eragon.html'>Eragon</a></li>
<li><a href='about.html'>About Us</a></li>
<li><a href='disclaimer.html'>Disclaimer</a></li>
<li><a href='contact.html'>Contact Us</a></li>
</ul>
</div>
</div>
<br>
<br>
<div id='content_wrapper'>
<div id='right_side'>
<h3><center>Popular Images</center></h3>
<p>
<img class="sideimage" src="http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/entaustindame/1-5.jpg" width="100%" height="100%">
<p>
<img class="sideimage" src="http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/entaustindame/2-4.jpg" width="100%" height="100%">
<p>
<img class="sideimage" src="http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/entaustindame/3-1.jpg" width="100%" height="100%">
<p>
<img class="sideimage" src="http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/entaustindame/4-1.jpg" width="100%" height="100%">
<p>
<img class="sideimage" src="http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/entaustindame/5.jpg" width="100%" height="100%">
<p>
<img class="sideimage" src="http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv47/entaustindame/6.jpg" width="100%" height="100%">
</div>
<div id='center'>
<h3>Welcome!</h3>
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Now, I ran into a problem very, very, VERY early into it's development. I was trying to create one at webs.com, but the big problem came when I found that NO LBT videos could be posted. Yep, none whatsoever. They were completely blocked by the site provider.
Well that's strange! I've got one of my lbt videos on the dutch lbt fansite...(hosted at webs.com) Maybe since it's dutch they don't have a problem with it?
As for the weebly thing, how do they check it? Do you have to enter your email or something or do they check it by IP? Of course if they check it by email you could just create another email-address instead of starting from scratch.
Now, I ran into a problem very, very, VERY early into it's development. I was trying to create one at webs.com, but the big problem came when I found that NO LBT videos could be posted. Yep, none whatsoever. They were completely blocked by the site provider.
Well that's strange! I've got one of my lbt videos on the dutch lbt fansite...(hosted at webs.com) Maybe since it's dutch they don't have a problem with it?
As for the weebly thing, how do they check it? Do you have to enter your email or something or do they check it by IP? Of course if they check it by email you could just create another email-address instead of starting from scratch.
They give you an account when you sign up. The account itself keeps track. Here's how mine currently looks:
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/pokeplayer984/MyWeebly.jpg)
They're site is easily flawed and any amateur with a computer can trick the options on the check list. So it's most likely indicated by the username and e-mail.
One could easily remove the "Remember Me" option they click by simply using CCleaner. From there, you could create a new account with a different e-mail.
However, if they spot the fact you have more then one account, you're banned, and since I make it too easy for one to spot it, and the fact that I usually don't do something like this, I'm not going to risk it.
Besides, I would rather go through the trouble of creating a nice custom one of my own rather than pick one of their many pre-provided templates. They all just don't fit what I've got in mind. :) (Trust me, when it's finished, you guys will love it.)
Okay, I decided to give you guys a little idea of what the site will look like when it's done.
Here are just a few of the pictures I plan to use for the template:
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/p...ckyhisTeeth.jpg (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/pokeplayer984/ChomperShowingDuckyhisTeeth.jpg)
Just focus on Ducky's scared look, okay? That's all I'll be using of this picture.
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/p...84/LBTGroup.jpg (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/pokeplayer984/LBTGroup.jpg)
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/p...ggingPetrie.jpg (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/pokeplayer984/DuckyHuggingPetrie.jpg)
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/p...E24003_0006.jpg (http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/pokeplayer984/TITLE24003_0006.jpg)
Oh, and one more:
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa146/t...0album/KFD2.png (http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa146/tlordame/second%20album/KFD2.png)
I'm so sorry, LBTlover, I could not resist. (Just like I couldn't resist making it a caption.)
Yeah, I'm definitely going all out with LBT stuff here.
I know I may have to lessen the quality to a certain point to make it load up faster but still make them look good, but you get the idea.
Now to look for some more nice pictures I have in mind of using. :D
After quite a bit of nitpicking of what to do, and doing all I can to make it LBT related, here's the official banner for the site:
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/pokeplayer984/OfficialBanner.png)
EVERY Pixel is LBT related. Some are dead give aways, but try to figure out the rest. :D
What does W D stand for?
What does W D stand for?
What? It's not obvious? :P:
It stands for: "Watch and Download".
Besides, being able to watch it whenever on the web is the whole point of the site. ;)
There will be strict limitations to certain areas, of course. :D
Please tell me you're not trying to pull off some way to get the full LBT movies on your website. How are you going to get away with that? There's no way the host of your website will allow that even if you could get someone like me who has a private server to offer you server space to illegally host the full movies. Even I with my private server wouldn't be able to get away with that. They would revoke my .2myip.net domain in an instant. The only way to illegally host such things would be to 1 have your own server and 2 own a domain name server as well. Oh, and you'd probably want to have your server hosted in the Philippines too. Don't want the Feds breaking down your doors. :rolleyes: Just leave it alone and stop trying to illegally host the full movies. If Universal indeed shuts down LBT for good I'll be the one to offer the full movies. I have my ways and I know the laws. I can get away with it. You on the other hand have no idea what you're getting in to. You're going to end up getting yourself hurt for this. It's not worth it.
This will be your ONLY warning regarding this matter. If you choose to disregard it, that's your problem. I won't have anything to do with this. Besides...in order to get away with this legally there must be two criteria. First off you must have a written and signed statement from the CEO of the production company that makes the film stating that it has been discontinued and second of all you must wait FIVE YEARS before you are able to share any of their material in full quality. Until then you can get away with it if you comply with the general order quality guidelines but the film must be at least five years old. There is yet another way around this. If it is recorded off of the TV then it can be shared in one quarter original TV quality for the purpose of re-watching. You can share this with an unlimited number of people. It doesn't say anything about the internet being exempted from this rule (that's one of the reasons the LBT TV episodes on my website can be legally shared).
But these rules change all of the time. In fact, recently one of the TV episodes I have on my server has become illegal for me to share and I have to recode it (I won't say which one seeing as I haven't gotten around to it yet). There's no way you can keep up with this. You lack not only the dedication and resolve but also the sources. Many of these laws I've revealed in this topic aren't written in layman's terms on some short document. They're practically hidden inside massive long laws that include 99% meaningless BS and 1% relevant information. Now do you understand why lawyers get such good money? :p
I'm perfectly willing to share the full LBT movies so long as Universal has discontinued the series. I don't want to hurt them, but if they no longer want to work for their money I don't see why people should have to pay them anymore. It will take me at least another 3 years before I can share the full movies IF Universal has indeed shut down the series. If not there's no way I'll share them. I want Universal to keep making big money off the series and that they'll see that people love and cherish LBT (and most importantly that it can still make them money). But if they're killing it off I don't care any more. Screw them. They're not making a dime off of not doing anything. I've given them at least $500 just for LBT (not including other movies).
A lot of talk in this thread is really discouraged on the GOF.
Please tell me you're not trying to pull off some way to get the full LBT movies on your website. How are you going to get away with that? There's no way the host of your website will allow that even if you could get someone like me who has a private server to offer you server space to illegally host the full movies. Even I with my private server wouldn't be able to get away with that. They would revoke my .2myip.net domain in an instant. The only way to illegally host such things would be to 1 have your own server and 2 own a domain name server as well. Oh, and you'd probably want to have your server hosted in the Philippines too. Don't want the Feds breaking down your doors. :rolleyes: Just leave it alone and stop trying to illegally host the full movies. If Universal indeed shuts down LBT for good I'll be the one to offer the full movies. I have my ways and I know the laws. I can get away with it. You on the other hand have no idea what you're getting in to. You're going to end up getting yourself hurt for this. It's not worth it.
This will be your ONLY warning regarding this matter. If you choose to disregard it, that's your problem. I won't have anything to do with this. Besides...in order to get away with this legally there must be two criteria. First off you must have a written and signed statement from the CEO of the production company that makes the film stating that it has been discontinued and second of all you must wait FIVE YEARS before you are able to share any of their material in full quality. Until then you can get away with it if you comply with the general order quality guidelines but the film must be at least five years old. There is yet another way around this. If it is recorded off of the TV then it can be shared in one quarter original TV quality for the purpose of re-watching. You can share this with an unlimited number of people. It doesn't say anything about the internet being exempted from this rule (that's one of the reasons the LBT TV episodes on my website can be legally shared).
But these rules change all of the time. In fact, recently one of the TV episodes I have on my server has become illegal for me to share and I have to recode it (I won't say which one seeing as I haven't gotten around to it yet). There's no way you can keep up with this. You lack not only the dedication and resolve but also the sources. Many of these laws I've revealed in this topic aren't written in layman's terms on some short document. They're practically hidden inside massive long laws that include 99% meaningless BS and 1% relevant information. Now do you understand why lawyers get such good money? :p
I'm perfectly willing to share the full LBT movies so long as Universal has discontinued the series. I don't want to hurt them, but if they no longer want to work for their money I don't see why people should have to pay them anymore. It will take me at least another 3 years before I can share the full movies IF Universal has indeed shut down the series. If not there's no way I'll share them. I want Universal to keep making big money off the series and that they'll see that people love and cherish LBT (and most importantly that it can still make them money). But if they're killing it off I don't care any more. Screw them. They're not making a dime off of not doing anything. I've given them at least $500 just for LBT (not including other movies).
NEVER full movies. I promise you that.
People will beg when they see the site, but it's just not going to happen.
Okay, I've been busy with thinking over what I really want it to have. Here's what I've boiled it down to:
Home Page
Song Scenes (Now I just need to find a server that will allow this.)
Music (Here, you would listen to it without the video playing.)
Fan Made Material (Includes Art, Stories and Videos)
Contact Me
The final page is what will make it most unique and what I've been considering the most...
Haters Archive
Yes, a page that shows off the LBT Hater stuff we've come across. Now, why this, you ask?
Okay, first off, I will say that I understand just how terrible the stuff haters have made really is. A number of us have seen it and it's just horrible. However, some don't even realize the full extent of what they have done. They even turn away potential fans with their stuff. Those that are turned away think it's the fans themselves who made the stuff and not haters. They need to know that it's the other way around. So what if there was a page to show them that it's the haters giving the crap and turning them away from something grand? What if they could see the truth? That the fans treat LBT with respect and it's the haters that do these terrible things?
Yes, there will be a warning if this kind of page is actually made, but it'll help others see the truth. See that they've been mislead this whole time. THAT is it's main purpose.
Indeed there will be alot put into it. I'm definitely going to need quite a bit of space here. So, here's hoping I can find something.
I know you guys have issues with the "Haters Archive", but seriously, what do you think?
To be respectful, it sounds as if the Haters Archive is going to be a collection of material found online by others. Did you ever consider people may not want their work represented in the way you plan on presenting it on the website? While I may not like the material the haters create, I am a civil person, and a Hater's Archive isn't really a nice thing to do.
Songs, video clips, I don't know who would host those, or allow it. Good luck on the search for someone who will.
To be respectful, it sounds as if the Haters Archive is going to be a collection of material found online by others. Did you ever consider people may not want their work represented in the way you plan on presenting it on the website? While I may not like the material the haters create, I am a civil person, and a Hater's Archive isn't really a nice thing to do.
Songs, video clips, I don't know who would host those, or allow it. Good luck on the search for someone who will.
Hmm... I guess you're right on the hater's archive. Maybe it is a bad idea.
Also, yeah, I know it won't be easy finding someone that will allow it, but Blogger did when I made that Blog of mine, so I'm sure I can find some sort of web host to allow it.
Song Scenes (Now I just need to find a server that will allow this.)
What exactly is this?
Song Scenes (Now I just need to find a server that will allow this.)
What exactly is this?
Take all of the videos I have in your little server, and that's what you would pretty much get.
(Seriously, finding a web host to allow that, it's going to be sweet! :rolleyes: )
You mean you want streaming? If so why not just use the SWF file I have embedded in my server code? It's not like it's copyrighted or anything. So long as you've got a SWF and an FLV file you can embed streaming video into any website.
You mean you want streaming? If so why not just use the SWF file I have embedded in my server code? It's not like it's copyrighted or anything. So long as you've got a SWF and an FLV file you can embed streaming video into any website.
Wow! Really? That's all it takes? I didn't know that! Thanks for the tip! :D
If you want to do the streaming, you should use this custom code I made. It works 100% and it's pretty short (unlike so many other one's you can find online). Now you can't embed the actual videos in the page because this is such a lite code, but you can link to a separate page. Here's how you do it. First off, make a new HTML document and put this in it:
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<html>
<head><title>Video Streaming From www.lbtserver.2myip.net</title></head>
<body>
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://lbtserver.2myip.net/TVEPS/Resources/javascript.js"></script>
<div id="player">If you can see this text, you need to download Adobe Flash Player to see the video.</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var so = new SWFObject('http://lbtserver.2myip.net/TVEPS/Resources/player.swf','mpl','240','180','9');
so.addParam('allowscriptaccess','always');
so.addParam('allowfullscreen','true');
so.addParam('flashvars','&file=http://lbtserver.2myip.net/TVEPS/Flashes/EscapeFromTheMysteriousBeyond.flv&backcolor=FFFFFF&controlbar=over&autostart=false');
so.write('player')
</script>
</body>
</html>
Don't touch anything except for the .flv file at the end of the code. You can also edit the values '240' and '180' to adjust the video size. Simply replace the .flv file with the one that's in your flashes page.
Next you need to upload the HTML page to my server and link to it via the following code:
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<a href="" onclick="window.open('http://lbtserver.2myip.net/TVEPS/Pages/EscapeFromTheMysteriousBeyond.html', 'StatusBar', 'toolbar=yes,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes,width=260,height=200,left=0,top=0');" title="tool tip"></a>
Simply replace the .html file with the one you uploaded and adjust the width and height attributes to whatever you wish. This will be the size of the popup window.
If you want to do the streaming, you should use this custom code I made. It works 100% and it's pretty short (unlike so many other one's you can find online). Now you can't embed the actual videos in the page because this is such a lite code, but you can link to a separate page. Here's how you do it. First off, make a new HTML document and put this in it:
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<html>
<head><title>Video Streaming From www.lbtserver.2myip.net</title></head>
<body>
<script type="text/javascript" src="http://lbtserver.2myip.net/TVEPS/Resources/javascript.js"></script>
<div id="player">If you can see this text, you need to download Adobe Flash Player to see the video.</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var so = new SWFObject('http://lbtserver.2myip.net/TVEPS/Resources/player.swf','mpl','240','180','9');
so.addParam('allowscriptaccess','always');
so.addParam('allowfullscreen','true');
so.addParam('flashvars','&file=http://lbtserver.2myip.net/TVEPS/Flashes/EscapeFromTheMysteriousBeyond.flv&backcolor=FFFFFF&controlbar=over&autostart=false');
so.write('player')
</script>
</body>
</html>
Don't touch anything except for the .flv file at the end of the code. You can also edit the values '240' and '180' to adjust the video size. Simply replace the .flv file with the one that's in your flashes page.
Next you need to upload the HTML page to my server and link to it via the following code:
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<a href="" onclick="window.open('http://lbtserver.2myip.net/TVEPS/Pages/EscapeFromTheMysteriousBeyond.html', 'StatusBar', 'toolbar=yes,resizable=yes,scrollbars=yes,width=260,height=200,left=0,top=0');" title="tool tip"></a>
Simply replace the .html file with the one you uploaded and adjust the width and height attributes to whatever you wish. This will be the size of the popup window. Gee! Quite a nice amount of instructions. :D Then again, I didn't expect much less. I understand the coding can get quite big for ANYTHING you put into a website. (I bet even a picture has a good amount of HTTP coding on it.)
This is going to be fun. :^.^:
(I bet even a picture has a good amount of HTTP coding on it.)
Naw. That's one of the things in HTML that doesn't require a lot of code (thank god).
- Code: on
<img src="urlofimagegoeshere.jpg" border="0">
Of course if you want to align the image and place it in a certain place there's a lot more code. :p
Okay, I'm busy downloading a little video tutorial (It's actually one hour long to be honest.) on how to turn my PSD photoshop file into an HMTL for the web, and while watching it earlier, (I'm downloading it in case I need to relearn anything.) it told me how important it was to know CSS.
Okay, fair enough on that. However, as I recall from another topic that landbeforetimelover made, CSS will eventually die and we'll have to move on to CSS2 and CSS3.
Tell me, how different is the coding on them from the original CSS? And how much of an impact will it make on the site at hand if I DON'T make the change?
However, as I recall from another topic that landbeforetimelover made, CSS will eventually die and we'll have to move on to CSS2 and CSS3.
No you've got it all wrong. CSS2 is what is commonly used in ALL websites. The difference between CSS, CSS2, and CSS3 is that more elements and abilities have been added the the CSS programming language. If you learned CSS2 now, the information wouldn't become obsolete. You'd just have to familiarize yourself with the new elements once CSS3 has come out. For example, CSS3 has the ability to add an image background to a table or image border and it has the ability to stretch the background of a web page. CSS2 can't do that. So if you wanted to be able to do that later on, you'd have to learn the syntax, which is:
- Code: on
.body{
background-url{'image.jpg');
background-size: 100%;
}
The 'background-size' element is new, but the other stuff existed in CSS2.
how much of an impact will it make on the site at hand if I DON'T make the change?
If you want to make a website with nothing but HTML, be prepared for A LOT of coding and unless you're an HTML master....it's gonna look like crap. Styling with straight HTML is very difficult and takes years of practice. CSS is different. If you know CSS, it gets applied to every page automatically. For example, if you wanted all of your
- Code: on
<h1>
tags to be blue, instead of writing the HTML:
- Code: on
<h1 color="blue">
on every single heading in the HTML document, you can just add the following to your CSS style sheet:
- Code: on
.h1{
color: blue;
}
and it will apply a blue color to ALL heading 1 tags within your HTML document.
on how to turn my PSD photoshop file into an HMTL for the web
Do you honestly think you'll be able to edit a generated HTML file like that? Good luck man. :rolleyes: There are no shortcuts. Either learn how to code from scratch or go with a company like Freewebs if you want a functional website.
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My official recommendation for someone like you that's just starting out is to go find a free website template and start screwing around with it. It doesn't hurt to try. Check this website out:
http://freewebtemplates.com/templates/metallic (http://freewebtemplates.com/templates/metallic)
Take a look at this nice template. I'm sure you could edit this to make it a very nice LBT site:
(http://media.freewebtemplates.com/templates/full/8082.jpg)
All you'd have to do is change the text and make a logo. If the logo size looks too big for your tastes, you can change the size of it. These templates are TOTALLY CUSTOMIZABLE.
Hosting a website like this is easy. Set it up like you would on your computer and find a host like byethost22.com and upload the entire directory. Then do a little domain redirection and BAM, you've got a fully customizable site. I'd offer you the space on my server for it, but URL redirections won't work with my server. My server is only good for hosting little sites like the LBT Archive and the Silverline Productions website that don't need any publicity on Google and can just be linked to via my main LBT site. It's made to be that way. My server is an FTP file sharing server...not a webhost.
However, as I recall from another topic that landbeforetimelover made, CSS will eventually die and we'll have to move on to CSS2 and CSS3.
No you've got it all wrong. CSS2 is what is commonly used in ALL websites. The difference between CSS, CSS2, and CSS3 is that more elements and abilities have been added the the CSS programming language. If you learned CSS2 now, the information wouldn't become obsolete. You'd just have to familiarize yourself with the new elements once CSS3 has come out. For example, CSS3 has the ability to add an image background to a table or image border and it has the ability to stretch the background of a web page. CSS2 can't do that. So if you wanted to be able to do that later on, you'd have to learn the syntax, which is:
- Code: on
.body{
background-url{'image.jpg');
background-size: 100%;
}
The 'background-size' element is new, but the other stuff existed in CSS2.
how much of an impact will it make on the site at hand if I DON'T make the change?
If you want to make a website with nothing but HTML, be prepared for A LOT of coding and unless you're an HTML master....it's gonna look like crap. Styling with straight HTML is very difficult and takes years of practice. CSS is different. If you know CSS, it gets applied to every page automatically. For example, if you wanted all of your
- Code: on
<h1>
tags to be blue, instead of writing the HTML:
- Code: on
<h1 color="blue">
on every single heading in the HTML document, you can just add the following to your CSS style sheet:
- Code: on
.h1{
color: blue;
}
and it will apply a blue color to ALL heading 1 tags within your HTML document.
on how to turn my PSD photoshop file into an HMTL for the web
Do you honestly think you'll be able to edit a generated HTML file like that? Good luck man. :rolleyes: There are no shortcuts. Either learn how to code from scratch or go with a company like Freewebs if you want a functional website.
_________________________________
My official recommendation for someone like you that's just starting out is to go find a free website template and start screwing around with it. It doesn't hurt to try. Check this website out:
http://freewebtemplates.com/templates/metallic (http://freewebtemplates.com/templates/metallic)
Take a look at this nice template. I'm sure you could edit this to make it a very nice LBT site:
(http://media.freewebtemplates.com/templates/full/8082.jpg)
All you'd have to do is change the text and make a logo. If the logo size looks too big for your tastes, you can change the size of it. These templates are TOTALLY CUSTOMIZABLE.
Hosting a website like this is easy. Set it up like you would on your computer and find a host like byethost22.com and upload the entire directory. Then do a little domain redirection and BAM, you've got a fully customizable site. I'd offer you the space on my server for it, but URL redirections won't work with my server. My server is only good for hosting little sites like the LBT Archive and the Silverline Productions website that don't need any publicity on Google and can just be linked to via my main LBT site. It's made to be that way. My server is an FTP file sharing server...not a webhost. Wow! Thanks for all the corrections and all the info. It'll really help. :)
Okay, it's been a while since I gave an update. Now, I will admit that I had greatly procrastinated with the final design choice, but that's because I was contemplating what to put in. To be honest, the last piece was just something I stumbled upon by pure luck. On top of this, I like to relax more than work during whatever time I have off. I would rather enjoy life than make a chore out of it.
Now, here's what the main design of the Home Page looks like thus far. The interesting thing is that the site itself shows real fan service. Save for the text in certain areas, EVERY pixel is Land Before Time.
(http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb237/pokeplayer984/OfficialHomePage.jpg)
Indeed, it's hard to believe it, but EVERY pixel is Land Before Time. Now, I covered up the text because what I currently have on there may change. I'm not 100% sure on it now.
Also, an important thing to know is that this is the Default. What's going to happen is that I will be adding a theme selector. As a member of this site, when the selector function is completed, you'll be able to choose the theme you wish from a certain number of them. The upcoming themes will be based on a number of Land Before Time characters. This includes the gang of seven, (Which includes Ruby and Chomper of course.) Ali, Shorty, Mr. Threehorn, Grandpa Longneck, Mo (I seriously could not resist.) and a few others. There's even going to be a Land Before Time Villains theme at some point, so look forward to that.
Yeah, quite a surprise, huh?
This has been in mind for quite some time. I'll be carefully editing the template LBTlover gave me and so that it can look like what I want. I realize a few things will need to be moved around, but I'm sure I can work with that. Depending on how quickly I get this part done will determine how soon I'll have it ready. There's definitely going to be quite a bit of editing in the code.
From here on out, plenty of information will be given on the updates as they come. This is where the major work really begins. Starting tomorrow, (I seriously do not like to work Sunday and that's the soonest my off time will come.) I'll be working my butt off with it. For real this time. No more procrastinating, unless something majorly unexpected comes up.
That's it for the update.
See ya later! :)
Why the gigantic copyright notice at the bottom? Also, you really should provide a link or something if you're really after feedback, because we can't give any unless we see what you have.
Also, you really should provide a link or something if you're really after feedback, because we can't give any unless we see what you have.
I'm pretty sure he's still building it using some tools that require no coding and has no way to publish it.
Also, you really should provide a link or something if you're really after feedback, because we can't give any unless we see what you have.
I'm pretty sure he's still building it using some tools that require no coding and has no way to publish it.
Yes, and this is where the major work comes into play. I'm going to be busy, busy, busy!
There's a lot to be done, and I don't plan to slow down or procrastinate from here on out.
Besides that, you don't know what's in that covered portion, right? Could be in there somewhere. ;)
I can't wait to see it.
Okay, considering the lack of time yesterday, (Work took up a good chunk of it.) I'm not surprised I didn't get much done. I've at least made every link on the home page work now. There's still lots to do.
I'll update you all tomorrow.
See ya later! :)
Due to having to shop for myself wearing me out, I had to rest a little, so I didn't get as much done as I hoped I would. Hardly anything was finished yesterday. I was exhausted. :(
Today will also take up time again. I've got a dentist appointment. I'm finally going to get that chipped tooth of mine fixed. Plus I need him to look at a few other things. For some odd reason, brushing with a Sonic Toothbrush, Listerine and Trident aren't doing much for my teeth. There's something seriously wrong and I know it. I just hope it isn't as bad as what landbeforetimelover had once.
Well, that's it for the updates so far. See ya tomorrow. :)
After taking the time to carefully resize it and so that it'll fit for people that go by 1024x768 for their display, I was able to complete the coding for the Home Page of the site.
I still have a ways to go. Now comes the Song Scenes portion of the site. This is going to be one of the few harder areas of the site. This one will take longer, but I should have it done soon.
While we wait for my site to be completed, you should know about a special secondary site that I've made for you all to visit and contribute to.
Google has done it for me again here. They have made it possible for rookies like me to create a site and have others do what they wish with it. The biggest thing is that I have complete control of the site. I get to choose who comes to it and who doesn't. I also get to choose who ends up getting greater privileges of the site.
As great as it would be to just improve the secondary site and stop once it's completed, it's not what I want for the MAIN site. It's got a lot of things which are nice and all, but the limits on it make me rather sad in the end. There's a lot I would love to do with the site that I just simply can't do with Google Sites.
So, with that in mind, here is the "incomplete" secondary site for you guys to check out:
http://sites.google.com/site/landbeforetimewd/ (http://sites.google.com/site/landbeforetimewd/)
Well, enjoy and I'll see ya later!
Here's the thing, if we're going to contribute to this second site like a member community, what is your thought of the possibility that the current secondary site can become a bigger draw and simply push the main site out of the picture? Would you be ok with such a possibility? I'd hate for all of us to contribute something and then you realize that your pride and dream (the main site) is less popular or overlaps things that we have added to the secondary site.
Side note: I got the PM and I haven't made a decision.
Here's the thing, if we're going to contribute to this second site like a member community, what is your thought of the possibility that the current secondary site can become a bigger draw and simply push the main site out of the picture? Would you be ok with such a possibility? I'd hate for all of us to contribute something and then you realize that your pride and dream (the main site) is less popular or overlaps things that we have added to the secondary site.
Side note: I got the PM and I haven't made a decision.
Fact is Petrie, that there are limits and problems with a website made by Google Sites. (Which you quickly learn as an owner of the site.) The MAIN site won't have them.
Google Sites is limited to the videos you can put up. You can put up videos from ONLY YouTube and Google Video, and you need to put in the URL in order to put them up. I have yet to find a Google Gadget to get around that.
You can try to put up a video through the Attachments option. Unfortunately, even a video that is only 6.5MB takes FOREVER to load. It's not worth it.
IMHO, the preloaded Templates in Google Sites are quite limited. (About 20 choices.) The only way to give it more flair is to mess around with the colors and give it a background like I've done. Unfortunately, this causes the template to load first and then the background. Not to mention that this causes it to take longer to load up. (It takes about 10 seconds on my 2 MB connection when optimized.) A rookie thing that is certainly NOT allowed for a more professional place. (Compare to the upcoming look, which will only take just over 5 seconds on dial-up. SO much better, huh?)
In order to listen to .mp3 files, an Owner needs to put them in the Attachment area and the listener needs Quick Time. A simple rookie mistake that can cost you in the long run.
Also, in order to give anything it's own link, you NEED to make it an attachment first. After that, you need to copy it's new URL and then insert it from there. Only way around this is if it has it's own place on the net already and you use that link instead.
Oh, and you can't give a background in the Navigation area with Google Sites. I seriously want to give that part my own flair, but I sadly can't. I can ONLY change the color. Sad.
Oh yeah, and the color selection is limited too. Only 64 colors. A more professional one has 256 or more to work with. Enough said.
Not to mention that the Navigation looks just wrong in the end. Main pages are okay, but it's the Sub-pages that suffer. Sub-pages are more organized on a professional site in the end. Oh yeah, and once you have a sub-page on there, it's difficult to get rid of if you messed up.
Bottom line, Goggle Sites obviously has limits and problems that make it STRICTLY for rookies.
It's just not going to become what I really want. Which will make the main site look more professional and be more attractive in the end.
Because of all the work it'll take to make the site from complete scratch, and that I REALLY didn't want you guys to wait, I made one on Google Sites ready for you guys to mess around with.
The limits and problems just make it pale in comparison to what I have in mind for the MAIN site in the end. THAT is why I'm not worried.
Besides all you mention, it may look basic, but it may not be as bad as you make it sound. There are ways around the attachments (ie hosting other places and getting direct links and taking a screenshot from the video). Limited perhaps, but not unusable. I would take ownership to simply show you that.
Well I sure had some fun yesterday.
I had been messing around with the coding to figure out a few things. Let's just say I definitely learned quite a bit in the end.
Not to mention checking back every so often to see who accepted my invitation to my secondary site. I really didn't want to miss anyone who wanted to answer.
Oh, and who invited the power outage yesterday? Sure, it was only out for a half hour, but still.
I still have a ways to go, and with work today and tomorrow, I have even less time to work on it. So I'll get done what I can.
And from here on out, Landbeforetimelover will be teaching me. Yep, he's decided to teach me and I'm accepting his invitation.
So, wish me the best there.
Well, that's all for updates. I'll see ya later!
I guess I wish you the best. Please read my PM for further info.
Well, all I need to do now is pull off some streaming, and the Song Scenes page will be complete.
Still, it's quite a ways to go. At least I'm making progress.
I won't get back to working on it until later this afternoon seeing as I need to leave for work in about half an hour. I'll be able to get to it after that.
So, I'll see ya guys later! :)
So, where am I now? Well, one thing you must understand first off that all of the time after work on Saturday and all of Sunday was spent with family, because of the fact that it was a holiday. So yeah, I didn't get anywhere those days, but I wouldn't take back the time I spent with family to work on something less meaningful to me. Time spent with the family is too important to me.
At least I got some work done yesterday, so I can be happy about that. I have completed the HTML coding that I'll be using for streaming video (The one landbeforetimelover gave me in an earlier post, but with a slight tweak. (The "tweak" being a size change and making the video and so that it ends up in the center of the browser window rather than to the far left.)) on a total of 61 of the videos. That leaves only 30-some-odd videos left. That should be done some time tonight, tomorrow morning at the latest.
The reason it'll take until then is simple. First, I've got a dental appointment this morning, and then after that I have to get ready for work. So no biggie there.
There's still tons left to do guys. Still, it's going to be great when it's finished. I promise. :)
I am now up to 77 of the videos coded for the streaming. Just under 20 left to go. However, there is a main reason for me not getting all that far.
Like landbeforetimelover requested, I am using the videos that I originally uploaded onto his server. However, when I tested one of the videos, I found it to play for only 7 seconds and then stop completely, and at that point, I knew something was wrong.
So, first thing I did was checked every last character in the code. Nothing was wrong there, so I checked the video on the server itself, and there was the problem. For one reason or another, the video on the server was only 7 seconds long.
So, simple enough, logical choice is to take it down and put up a new one. And so I do that... and it's STILL 7 seconds. WTF!?
So I checked the original file and that turned out to be okay, it played for the full 2:47, so that wasn't the problem and pretty much left me scratching my head. So, going out on a limb, I then choose to remove the one on the server, take the original and change the name, put it up, and it finally works.
So, for one reason or another the file name, "No One Has to be Alone.flv" tends to make the video 7 seconds when it's put onto landbeforetimelover's server. Don't know why, but for some reason it does. The new file name is NOHtbA.flv.
The problem was rather frustrating, and it was late when I finished, so I went to bed. (Also feeling quite tired anyways.)
On my end though, there's been connection problems lately. This isn't just for my computer, it's for EVERY computer in the house. The reason behind this is that the "service" connection keeps going down. It happens randomly, so I'm not sure when I can test all my work for the website.
So yeah, I've also got a connection that LOVES to drop. Nice problem! :(
Hopefully it can get fixed and I can get this whole thing done a lot more smoothly.
Well, that's the update for now. I'll see ya later! :)
Why haven't I updated in over a week? Because it's been crap trying to update!
I'm not sure what caused this little problem, but something in the code messed up the bar at the very top. Somehow, the boxes for the links got more spread out. I seriously don't know what I did wrong. The only way I could correct the problem was by making the boxes bigger, but that caused it to be bigger than the 1012 pixel limit I've set and go past 1020 all together. I tried shrinking them back down after making them big enough, but that only caused it to get spread out again. I don't know what I did wrong, but it forced me to start over.
At least this time around it will go by quicker since I've got a good amount of the content ready. I actually had finished the Movie Song Scenes page before this problem occurred.
Not to mention work and other things pretty much swamped me. Someone I met on-line wanted a certain file. I won't go into details, but the file was bigger than the dang limit set on most e-mail senders. (10 MB? Seriously? Give me a break here!) So we then decided to try MSN, but that kept failing to send it. After 4 attempts, we finally get it sent. One main problem was the my friend had a slow connection, despite not having Dial-up. It only finally started going faster after a few days. That was officially a waste of a week.
Yeah, so in short, little problem caused me to start over, and I was busy with something else all week. Dang it! :( Hopefully this time around I can find the mistake I made and learn from whatever it was that I did wrong.
With this problematic delay, the site probably won't be ready until August, maybe September, and that's if my PHP studying goes well. That's what I'll need to make the Join Deal actually work. I know I could take a shortcut and try to find a place that sets it up for me, but I'm afraid it might cost me a bit and with how work is treating me lately with money, I really can't afford much right now. I really want to save up for my birthday coming up next month. There's a few presents I want to get that I really don't want to miss out on.
So that's it for the update. Problems occurred and I'm forced to start over.
Well, I'll see ya later! -_-
One whole week later and how am I doing now?
Well, I got back to where I was before the little problem rather quickly and now I have the Song Scenes Episode Page completed. This now means that I have all of the Song Scenes Pages completed. Yeah! :D
It is now time to work on the Music Pages. This will feature not just the songs in MP3, but also the many different unique scores in the series. I'll also be trying to get a few others up. These ones will be difficult to get, unfortunately.
So yeah, these pages have a lot of work coming, and at the worst possible time too.
I am officially back to full time hours at my job. So this means less time to work on my site.
However, I'm hoping to get at least the Movie Music Page done by the end of this week. So, here's hoping. :)
Well, that's it for the update. Hopefully I'll get plenty done this week.
Well, see ya later!
*sighs* A depressing week brings forth a depressing update.
Neatless to say, I did not get as far as I had hoped. My YouTube Account getting disabled really made me feel down. Not to mention me not being about to go on the upcoming family vacation because stupid work won't let me. It effected my work and got me behind schedule. When I finally got back to work, I was so far behind that I couldn't catch up. Not to mention I didn't need LBTlover's server shutting down on me. That being said, the unfortunate depression has backed up the website yet again. I am expecting it launched by September now. (Great! Now I'll have school schedules affecting traffic expectations. Not what I really wanted for my launch date.) At least I was able to get most of the HTML files for the music finished. I'll definitely finish them by tomorrow morning and put them up by the evening.
Yeah, a rotten week and it really affected me. Sorry guys! :(
I'll do what I can to catch up, but not much is to be expected. Hopefully this week I will finish the Music Movies page. I've got a lot of catching up to do.
So yeah, that's it for the update. Hopefully I'll catch up, but we'll see.
Until then, see ya later! :)
So, where am I now? Well the Music Pages are nearly complete. I just need to put up the Scores and I'll be all done with it. However, I have run into a little problem.
Turns out, I have to do the Song Scenes page all over again. The move of LBTlover's server has caused a problem. It was a simple thing that I noted quite easily. The move changed the IP address slightly, thus causing the files in the server to not work, thus causing the links to not work. As such, I have to do the HTML files all over again. :(
At least it just needs a slight change, so it shouldn't take long to fix. I'll have to reupload them into a new folder and everything. I tell ya, it's a real hassle. -_-
Well, that's all for now. See ya later! :)