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Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 24, 2009, 12:32:13 AM
Long story short, Disney is going to make a dark Disney game, titled "Epic Mickey". And yes, everything I'm about show you here is real.

Here are the videos I've dug up:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/www....eetleworx_6.jpg (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/www.totalvideogames.com_69109_beetleworx_6.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ZjRu-AGSk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1ZjRu-AGSk&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EUa24ZmPkc&feature=fvw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EUa24ZmPkc&feature=fvw)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B64Rt7bDuxk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B64Rt7bDuxk&feature=related)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKxmt6ZhF4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyKxmt6ZhF4&feature=related)

http://gameinformer.com/games/disney_epic_...edia/24611.aspx (http://gameinformer.com/games/disney_epic_mickey/m/disney_epic_mickey_media/24611.aspx)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5qS1dq832k (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5qS1dq832k)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_NPcnnEDo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP_NPcnnEDo&feature=related)

 :blink:  :huh:  :o  :unsure: Holy crap is all I have to say! The concept arts in the that one url ("Forgotten Dreams") really caught me off-guard the first time around. Its like Disney meets H.P. Lovecraft with a good dose of Tim Burton thrown in!

Its also been confirmed that the theme of "Its a Small World After All" will play backwards in one section of the game's music. Here's a video of someone emulating that: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzh8TuYDIcI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gzh8TuYDIcI)

Well, here's to hoping that this the most awesome thing ever created for video games. It sure looks good (if not nightmare inducing just by looking at some of the art or listening to "Small World" backwards) and I will be getting this. Also, its Wii exclusive.

Edit: sorry for all this url's, but this has to be seen to be believed.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 24, 2009, 12:42:55 AM
Just found another one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkeJCVjBmfs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkeJCVjBmfs)

Also, one from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Mickey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_Mickey)
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Amaranthine on October 24, 2009, 01:41:40 AM
I can't say I'm going to get this when this comes out, but I'm glad Disney is finally getting out of it's purely "Disney Channel" stage. :p

:D
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Mumbling on October 24, 2009, 01:57:17 AM
Ooo awesome :D

Is it only for the wii though? *wants more DS games*
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: SouthPawRacer on October 24, 2009, 02:09:26 AM
That's some scary concept art near the end of the second video. It actually frightened me. :blink:

This looks like a really good game... like Rat_lady said, it's refreshing to see Disney finally getting serious instead of all bright and fluffy and Hannahmontana-y. :yes
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 24, 2009, 02:27:44 AM
How come you won't be gettingthis, Rat Lady? Just curious. After all, if we want this trend to continue in Disney, we have to send the message that the darker approach is acceptable by using our wallets.

Anyway, yeah I love that Disney is doing something different for a change. I've had enough of the insipid balanity that has been plaquing Disney for about...I have no idea how long.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Kor on October 24, 2009, 03:52:34 AM
I dont have a wii, but it can be interesting.  I'm surprised Disney would do anything like this.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: LBTFan on October 24, 2009, 05:03:07 AM
Ok this game looks like really epic. Maybe I would buy this game.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: jedi472 on October 24, 2009, 09:07:54 AM
Looks pretty awesome! I'll have to watch this one!
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Amaranthine on October 24, 2009, 09:09:28 PM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Oct 23 2009 on  10:27 PM
How come you won't be gettingthis, Rat Lady? Just curious. After all, if we want this trend to continue in Disney, we have to send the message that the darker approach is acceptable by using our wallets.

Anyway, yeah I love that Disney is doing something different for a change. I've had enough of the insipid balanity that has been plaquing Disney for about...I have no idea how long.
Well firstly, I'm not a game person. :p I have a ds, but I really don't play my games that much anymore. It's like every once in awhile I'll play a game on my ds. So why pay a lot for a game I probably won't use in the future...as epic as it looks. >.>

Secondly, if I am at someone else's place that has it, I'll probably play along with them, like try it before I buy it. ;)

Thirdly...I'm a wuss when it comes to dark, horror things. I mean I don't mind it, but I'm afraid that this is going to give me nightmares or something. :p lol

The "balanity" I think has been plaquing Disney ever since HSH showed. :p
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 12:32:50 AM
no!
I nearly cried when i saw the damn video, i REALLY don't like it when Disney goes serious
I thought after they bought Marvel, could it get any worse than this???
Disney pretty much died with buying all those companies and JETIX and stuff like that, the movies are still awesome, but they are more like Universal-family-friendly movies
this game is TERRIBLE, this does NOT look Disney lrelated AT ALL
with those scary-looking creatures, and everything happy and Disney World is trashed, (i'm crying), old Disney friends are torn up....
I honestly like the bad idea of Kingdom Hearts better than this!
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 12:52:35 AM
and this is BEYOND the Scooby-Doo games and Luigi's Mansion and stuff like that

I like Disney back when it DIDN'T have a dark side, now i like it even less...

I think Cartoon Network's "doomsday" game FusionFall is better than this crap
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Nick22 on October 25, 2009, 01:39:09 AM
A darker Disney is initeresting , if nonly that all we see from Disney is the purely saccrine stuff they normally produce. Have Mickey swear, put some moves on minnie, smack Donald around once in awhile. the goody-goddy' brand needs to be tweaked quite a bit. theres a reasion people like bugs Bunny a lot more than Mickey, Bugs has a edge to him..Mickey doesn't.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 01:45:10 AM
Quote from: Nick22,Oct 24 2009 on  09:39 PM
A darker Disney is initeresting , if nonly that all we see from Disney is the purely saccrine stuff they normally produce. Have Mickey swear, put some moves on minnie, smack Donald around once in awhile. the goody-goddy' brand needs to be tweaked quite a bit. theres a reasion people like bugs Bunny a lot more than Mickey, Bugs has a edge to him..Mickey doesn't.
it would be sort of strange seeing the main character of MICKEY MOUSE CLUBHOUSE swearing...
But it would be nice to have the girl have a good angert and fighting moves. It worked with Princess Fiona, Amy Rose, Dawn (Pokemon), etc.

But i still hate the concept of the game. I sort of hate the man Walt Disney now, He's not the man you think he is...

and the goody-goody brand has already been tweaked when they wasted a useful $4 billion on Marvel)
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Nick22 on October 25, 2009, 02:08:23 AM
Walt had his flawsm, like all men, he didn't really like jews all that much..for one.. although all the films he produced were at least good, and they didn't sequlize everything like t Disney did starting in the 90s, trashing most of the good to great films with cheap sequels.. And as for tweaking I meant the Mickey mouse Characters, hes been a goodygoody for 70 years, he needs to changed a bit..
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 02:09:56 AM
Quote from: Nick22,Oct 24 2009 on  10:08 PM
Walt had his flawsm, like all men, he didn't really like jews all that much..for one.. although all the films he produced were at least good, and they didn't sequlize everything like t Disney did starting in the 90s, trashing most of the good to great films with cheap sequels.. And as for tweaking I meant the Mickey mouse Characters, hes been a goodygoody for 70 years, he needs to changed a bit..
That pointless game Kingdom Hearts took care of that  :anger
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Nick22 on October 25, 2009, 02:12:22 AM
Well I see you don't like the game as an idea, but don't trash kIngdoms Hearts. I meight get one of them, and am rtrying to not form any opinions before playing it..I take it you don't like the games?
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 02:15:45 AM
Quote from: Nick22,Oct 24 2009 on  10:12 PM
Well I see you don't like the game as an idea, but don't trash kIngdoms Hearts. I meight get one of them, and am rtrying to not form any opinions before playing it..I take it you don't like the games?
well, i think, why put Disney characters in a serious ANIME??? They already have a life in cartoons...
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Nick22 on October 25, 2009, 02:21:02 AM
See, incoporating those characters actually gives the anime a twist.. Combinations of genres can work well, look at all the films that combine live actors and animation nowaadays.. you can thank Who Framed Roger Rabbit for that. Having the Disney characters act serious is a big change  from how they normally act..
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 02:21:47 AM
Quote from: Nick22,Oct 24 2009 on  10:21 PM
See, incoporating those characters actually gives the anime a twist.. Combinations of genres can work well, look at all the films that combine live actors and animation nowaadays.. you can thank Who Framed Roger Rabbit for that. Having the Disney characters act serious is a big change  from how they normally act..
i thought Who Framed Roger Rabbit was really good actually...
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Nick22 on October 25, 2009, 02:24:03 AM
as do I, it was a touchstone in filmaking, which is why it won a special achievement oscar . whe i mentione it , i meant it as a compliment.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 25, 2009, 03:40:11 AM
The way thebigdeal tells it, Disney's never done anything dark before. Just rewatch any of Walt's older films. You Will find that had Epic Mickey had been a film made by Walt, it would not really stick out amongst the likes of Fantasia and Sleeping Beauty.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 11:31:23 AM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Oct 24 2009 on  11:40 PM
The way thebigdeal tells it, Disney's never done anything dark before. Just rewatch any of Walt's older films. You Will find that had Epic Mickey had been a film made by Walt, it would not really stick out amongst the likes of Fantasia and Sleeping Beauty.
actually, htey've done LOTS of things dark before, i can give you examples...
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Amaranthine on October 25, 2009, 11:54:08 AM
^Like one banned political cartoon, "Education for Death". It tells about the Hitler propaganda and it really was making fun of Germans at that time. :p

I liked it myself, because I saw a different side to Disney, but I can see why it was banned. <.<

Here's a link in case you're interested: http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3104128/hitl...disney_cartoon/ (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3104128/hitlers_children_education_for_death_disney_cartoon/)

Now we are getting off topic a bit... :p
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 25, 2009, 06:28:04 PM
Yeah, that was kind of my point. By the way, if you hate Disney and the concept of this game so much, why are you even here? Go away if all you're going to offer absolutely nothing to this discussion.
By the way, Kingdom Hearts was not a serious anime, and the games were not pointless, ya baby.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 09:29:20 PM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Oct 25 2009 on  02:28 PM
By the way, Kingdom Hearts was not a serious anime, and the games were not pointless, ya baby.
Didn't know, haven't played much...

and i never hated Disney, sheesh...
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 25, 2009, 10:32:09 PM
You said you don't like the man... Well, whatever. By the way, did you watch the interview with the guy whose making the game. He's a Disney fan. I posted that to quell any fears that this was going to be inappropriate material for a Disney game. Why has no one else pointed that video out yet?
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 10:34:05 PM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Oct 25 2009 on  06:32 PM
You said you don't like the man... Well, whatever. By the way, did you watch the interview with the guy whose making the game. He's a Disney fan. I posted that to quell any fears that this was going to be inappropriate material for a Disney game. Why has no one else pointed that video out yet?
Yes i saw the interview
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 25, 2009, 10:48:57 PM
So, you know that the guy making the game probably loves the characters produced from the Disney company enough as to not make the game inappropriate for being a Disney game, then, right?
Anyway, updates have shown that the game isn't going to be as dark as the initial impressions made it out to be. Besides, this project is about reinvigorating the Disney characters (especially Mickey) not destroying them.
Besides, the scary stuff (like zombie mecha Goofy) are just copies of the characters made by Phantom Blot (something he would totally do, from what I've seen or remember of him old Disney comics), and not the characters, themselves.
Also, Oswald (I think was the name) the rabbit, Disney's original creation, who hasn't seen the light of day in too many decades will be featured in a Disney release  for the time in...I have no idea how long. That has to count for something. The way I hear it, the Disney company only recently paid VERY handsomely (as they did not originally own him to begin with) to get him back. If nothing else, this will reintroduce a truckload of old Disney characters who haven't been seen in a while and potentially open up some new avenues for the canon.

Besides, I haven't seen Mickey in anything of note for a long, long time, so seeing him as the star of a high profile game that promises to make him epic is like the best thing in the world for me.
And actually, if you think about it while looking at Mickey's character, this IS something that could happen in an actual canonical Disney story. Mickey always been the good guy, but he's also never been able to keep his hands out of stuff (hence the mess created in the world Yen Sid created for the forgotten Disney characters). This would SO happen in old school Disney! I'm psyched and can't imagine why you wouldn't be!
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 10:55:26 PM
dang, thats the longest comment i've seen in months  :lol
well, i've seen some of the updates and you are right, it isn't THAT dark,
and you haven't seen Mickey in a while? try MICKEY MOUSE CLUBHOUSE.... well... i don't give a crap about that show either...
I still don't tlike the game's atmosphere and plot, but i DO like the return of an old Universal character and their new "retro" designs
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 25, 2009, 11:05:48 PM
I said haven't seen him in anything MAJOR for a while. He's kind of been put to the sidelines by Disney in more recent years.
He's pretty much been reduced to a single TV series and a couple of appearances in the Kingdom Hearts games, whereas he used to appear in TV specials and series after series all the time.
Now, to see him as the focus and on the primary advertising points of something new and hyped is pleasing for me, to say the least.

Eh, I can understand not liking the plot and the feel, though I think in terms of that this is probably the best you can expect from it. I seriously think you shouldn't write Epic Mickey off just yet.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on October 25, 2009, 11:09:14 PM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Oct 25 2009 on  07:05 PM
I said haven't seen him in anything MAJOR for a while. He's kind of been put to the sidelines by Disney in more recent years.
He's pretty much been reduced to a single TV series and a couple of appearances in the Kingdom Hearts games, whereas he used to appear in TV specials and series after series all the time.
Now, to see him as the focus and on the primary advertising points of something new and hyped is pleasing for me, to say the least.

Eh, I can understand not liking the plot and the feel, though I think in terms of that this is probably the best you can expect from it. I seriously think you shouldn't write Epic Mickey off just yet.
yeah, i'll tell you 1 thing, i wILL try it out when it's released  :)
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Nick22 on October 26, 2009, 12:57:40 AM
i agree that mickey has been sidelined in favor of the flavor the month series like Hannah Montana and and other Disney shows, all of which are live action I might add. Mickey is an interesting character.. and I think it wouyld be interesting if they put a little "bad boy" into him..have him cause some havoc for once.. and actually build on his relationship with MInnie, I mean they've been boyfriend-girlfriend for nearly 80 years now
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: KingdomKey23 on October 26, 2009, 08:29:36 PM
Ah, yes. This game. At first I wasn't sure if this game was real, but that was quickly put the rest.

Well, I look forward to it. It's different, that's for sure. And, yeah. I know the creator's a Disney fan. I saw that video. Good to know he's not taking the characters to the extreme.

I'm getting it. The Wii is all fired up for it.\

BTW, question WR: What did you mean by "the game isn't going to be as dark as the initial impressions made it out to be." I might have seen the new updates, but not sure what to consider dark or not. Do you mean the character designs?
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Amaranthine on October 27, 2009, 01:18:05 AM
I'm reading the gameinformer right now, and it has Epic Mickey in it. I must say reading that is making me change my mind. It's almost spiritual, the change that disney is trying to breakthrough. :)

I hope in the future the DS version will come out. :p I don't have a wii.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on October 27, 2009, 07:42:23 PM
Well, the characters now look nowhere near as terrifying as the original concept arts which looked like someone had chainsawed the Disney classical character and then put them together in unimaginably horrible and mismatched ways.
Also, the plotline doesn't look quite like its going to be as dark as they were making out to be.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: Littlefoot1616 on October 28, 2009, 05:52:03 AM
Doesn't look too bad to me! The concept art does look a bit whacked out but I think artistry like this is a lot more bold and daring. It definitely does seem to be a bit more on the dark end of the fluffy bunny spectrum Disney is known for but this isn't the first time Disney has pushed the boundries of what we've come to expect of their creations. Anyone seen the Mickey short cartoon "Runaway Brain"? For a Mickey Mouse cartoon, I thought that was a bit dark considering the norm for a Disney short starring their own mascot (in terms of animation style and representation). Wouldnt mind seeing some gameplay footage of this. Mickey Mania was probably the last Mickey Mouse game I played (Kingdom Hearts doesn't count before anyone asks :p) and that was way back in the mid 90s. Will be interesting to see what happens with this one. Anyone know which game company is leading the project? Is it Disney themselves? Or will they just be publishing it?
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on November 02, 2009, 06:54:11 PM
Quote from: Rat_lady7,Oct 26 2009 on  09:18 PM
I'm reading the gameinformer right now, and it has Epic Mickey in it. I must say reading that is making me change my mind. It's almost spiritual, the change that disney is trying to breakthrough. :)

I hope in the future the DS version will come out. :p I don't have a wii.
SPIRITAUL? what do you mean?
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: WeirdRaptor on November 02, 2009, 07:14:21 PM
What I think Littlefoot1616 means is that Disney is tryng to become more like it was before Michael Eisner, which alone would be changes of spiritual proportions.
Title: Epic Mickey
Post by: thebigdeal on November 02, 2009, 07:21:14 PM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Nov 2 2009 on  03:14 PM
What I think Littlefoot1616 means is that Disney is tryng to become more like it was before Michael Eisner, which alone would be changes of spiritual proportions.
by the way, Runaway Brain was HILARIOUS