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Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: thebigdeal on November 06, 2009, 11:48:55 PM
some parts scared the human piss out of me...
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Lillefot on November 07, 2009, 05:43:41 AM
Do you mean the new one, with Jim Carrey as Scrouge?
I want to see that one too!  :)
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on November 08, 2009, 01:14:36 AM
I definitely can't wait to see this one :D.  Jim Carrey is awesome and hilarious :lol!
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Amaranthine on November 08, 2009, 01:17:38 AM
You know, not to get to picky, bossy, or any of the like, tbd, but you might want to add some more details about your topics before you post them. Just a suggestion, it's just a better way for everyone to have a discussion.

(I'm taking after Malte now! :lol)

Eerrrr anyhow...

Yeah, I DEFINITELY want to see this! Jim Carrey as Scrouge just has to be epic! :D
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: thebigdeal on November 08, 2009, 03:01:36 AM
Quote from: Rat_lady7,Nov 7 2009 on  09:17 PM
You know, not to get to picky, bossy, or any of the like, tbd, but you might want to add some more details about your topics before you post them. Just a suggestion, it's just a better way for everyone to have a discussion.

(I'm taking after Malte now! :lol)

Eerrrr anyhow...

Yeah, I DEFINITELY want to see this! Jim Carrey as Scrouge just has to be epic! :D
cover your ears at the doorknob part and the ghost of christmas yet to come part :)

By the way, you make a great Malte  :lol


oh and however, there wasn't that much comedy in it for a Jim Carrey film...
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on November 08, 2009, 03:08:01 AM
Well, "A Christmas Carol" is a pretty dark story ;).
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Malte279 on November 08, 2009, 05:31:10 AM
^ I got a Padawan :lol
It sure is a movie I would like to see. I once saw an older movie version of it. Sensitive me just loves the scenes when scrooge turns human and generous in the end.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: LBTFan on November 08, 2009, 06:57:28 AM
Looks like a really interesting movie. I definitely want to see this Movie.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: thebigdeal on November 08, 2009, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: Malte279,Nov 8 2009 on  01:31 AM
^ I got a Padawan :lol
It sure is a movie I would like to see. I once saw an older movie version of it. Sensitive me just loves the scenes when scrooge turns human and generous in the end.
are you sure you want to see this? I'm sensitive too and some parts scared the hell out of me...
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Malte279 on November 08, 2009, 12:11:23 PM
I know the ghost of the future christmas in particular was quite creepy in the movie I had seen before, but I reckon I can handle that :p
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: LBTFan13 on December 03, 2009, 12:56:38 AM
Well I just got back from seeing this movie, and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. This movie is easily one of if not the best Christmas Carol ever, which is no surprise because Disney is behind it.

There really is no comedy in the movie, despite Jim Carrey's role. This movie is probably the closest to the book out of all of them, which is good because the story is very dark. Jim Carrey is excellent as Scrooge as he portrayed the old humbug very well. The other voice overs were well picked also.

This movie is not required to be seen in 3D, but you can tell which parts were made for 3D. The animation is excellent and it is a welcome treat to hear traditional Christmas carols throughout the movie. The pacing is superb, it's not too fast and not too slow.

The one factor that really brought the magic out of this movie were the ghosts. All of the ghosts were portrayed very well, and minus Christmas Past, all of the ghosts were creepy! Jacob Marley gives a new sense of dread and despair, Christmas Present shows a truly dark side underneath his jolly laughter, and Christmas Future is by far one of the scariest ghosts I have ever seen in a movie. The last half hour of the movie which includes the end of Christmas Present, a.k.a. the two decrepit children, and all of Christmas Future, are some of the darkest scenes in Disney movie history. In short, these are the best ghosts out of all the Christmas Carol incarnations.

Overall, this movie is outstanding. It displays the truly grim and depressing tone of Scrooge's life very well while still keeping a light hearted feel in the end. I highly recommend seeing this movie.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: thebigdeal on December 03, 2009, 02:06:10 AM
Quote from: LBTFan13,Dec 2 2009 on  08:56 PM
Well I just got back from seeing this movie, and I must say I was pleasantly surprised. This movie is easily one of if not the best Christmas Carol ever, which is no surprise because Disney is behind it.

There really is no comedy in the movie, despite Jim Carrey's role. This movie is probably the closest to the book out of all of them, which is good because the story is very dark. Jim Carrey is excellent as Scrooge as he portrayed the old humbug very well. The other voice overs were well picked also.

This movie is not required to be seen in 3D, but you can tell which parts were made for 3D. The animation is excellent and it is a welcome treat to hear traditional Christmas carols throughout the movie. The pacing is superb, it's not too fast and not too slow.

The one factor that really brought the magic out of this movie were the ghosts. All of the ghosts were portrayed very well, and minus Christmas Past, all of the ghosts were creepy! Jacob Marley gives a new sense of dread and despair, Christmas Present shows a truly dark side underneath his jolly laughter, and Christmas Future is by far one of the scariest ghosts I have ever seen in a movie. The last half hour of the movie which includes the end of Christmas Present, a.k.a. the two decrepit children, and all of Christmas Future, are some of the darkest scenes in Disney movie history. In short, these are the best ghosts out of all the Christmas Carol incarnations.

Overall, this movie is outstanding. It displays the truly grim and depressing tone of Scrooge's life very well while still keeping a light hearted feel in the end. I highly recommend seeing this movie.
I thought it had more jump-out-of-your-seat moments then Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen....
ATTENTION- from this post on this topic contains Spoilers
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 03, 2009, 04:06:38 AM
Walking into the theater for thise one, I admit I had no idea what to expect from it. I have to say, I'm glad I saw it. I was expecting Carrey to ruin a classic story with his very presence, just to be impressed at how well he behaved himself and just stuck with what was appropriate.

I also agree. The film was great as it did not sugar coat anything for the kiddies (learn this lesson well, Hollywood) and stayed true to the book in ways I didn't think it would, to be honest.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Daddytops2009 on December 03, 2009, 05:09:42 AM
Will A Christmas Carol make it to the Oscars for best animated feature?
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: LBTFan13 on December 03, 2009, 01:15:09 PM
I think it should. A lot of thought and effort was put into this movie and it deserves something.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: DarkHououmon on December 03, 2009, 01:42:27 PM
I don't really have much desire to see this movie. There's been so many incarnations of this story, what could be different about this one?
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 03, 2009, 11:39:05 PM
What could possibly be any different about any film other since nothing under the sun is new and everything else has already been told at a million times? That's a really nasty attitude to sport just because its a popular tale that's been adapted before.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Nick22 on December 04, 2009, 01:32:30 AM
there are numerous versions of this story, and it is truly a timeless story I'll probably see it
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: LBTFan13 on December 04, 2009, 02:24:25 AM
Each version of the story brings something new to it. Like I said before, this is probably the closest to the book in terms of how dark it is, where as all the other versions are not as grim as this one. You can really tell Disney is trying to going back to the really darker movies like Snow White and Sleeping Beauty.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: DarkHououmon on December 04, 2009, 02:54:07 AM
Quote from: WeirdRaptor,Dec 3 2009 on  11:39 PM
What could possibly be any different about any film other since nothing under the sun is new and everything else has already been told at a million times? That's a really nasty attitude to sport just because its a popular tale that's been adapted before.
How was my attitude nasty? I was simply stating my opinion. I'm just not interested in seeing this film because I heard the same story so many times that I lost interest in it in general years ago. I wasn't ditching the movie. I didn't say it sucked or anything nasty like that.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Paradise Bird on December 04, 2009, 03:40:40 AM
What's going on?
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 04, 2009, 11:28:17 PM
I suppose you also have no interest in anything by Shakespear or Dickins' other novels then, huh, Dark? And yes, saying that you've seen a classic tale too many times to be interested is a nasty attitude. A Christmas Carol is a timeless story that embodies the very spirit of the next coming Holiday, and each adaptation brings something new to the table. A new twist on an old story, so to speak. As far as I'm concerned, not giving a potentially interesting new rendering of a classic a chance is just wrong
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Amaranthine on December 04, 2009, 11:41:18 PM
^Hey guys, everyone has their own opinion, there is no need to harp on each other because someone has a different view and another person. Just respect each other. :)

Anyhow to get back on topic:
I remember seeing this and REALLY liking it. ^^ The animation was just beautiful, Jim Carrey was AWESOME in his roles. Especially Scrooge. I saw it in 3D too. Just amazing. :D

I could see buying it myself. :)
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Malte279 on December 05, 2009, 02:53:14 AM
^ What Amy says.
One could discuss the question "what could be different about the new version of the movie?", but Kacie has never said anything to suggest that she was stating anything more than her personal view to which everyone is entitled. Let's not misinterpret it as an attempt to convert anyone.

Me personally, I am interested in watching this movie, but it is always rather tricky to find anyone to come along to watch a movie and I hate going to the cinema on my own. I have seen only one movie adaptation of it so far which was really pretty cool and very dark too with regard to the ghosts.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Kor on December 05, 2009, 10:29:25 AM
As a kid I saw a number of different versions, including a short 30 minute cartoon version, one made in the 30's or 40's I think, and others.  This would be in the 70's and 80's.  I preferred the movie versions but am not sure which ones I preferred.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: DarkHououmon on December 05, 2009, 12:01:18 PM
Wrong? Sorry but I disagree with you there. Not wanting to see a movie due to loss of interest isn't wrong. Now trying to make someone see a movie by trying to make them feel as if they've done something wrong by not wanting to see it, now that's something I could consider wrong. Would you like it if someone tried to force you to see a movie you didn't want to see? I would say not.

Anyway let's just drop this and move on with the topic. No sense in arguing about this.

I might consider renting this movie when it comes out, for the family that is. My sisters might be interested in seeing it. I'm not sure though. I never asked them if they wanted to see it.

The movie theatre I go to is getting more expensive. $5.00 at one time I think, then up to $5.50, then to $5.75. Sure not the most expensive place, but still expensive, especially when I could go to a much smaller theatre relatively close by to see a movie for $3 instead. I don't go to the theatres much anymore, even for movies I am interested to see. I usually just wait for them to come out on video.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: LBTFan13 on December 05, 2009, 12:35:47 PM
You have movie theaters that charge you only 5 bucks for a ticket? Wow your lucky :blink:  
All the theaters I go to in Pennsylvania charge 8 or 9 bucks to see a movie, and then popcorn is at least 4 bucks depending on the size.

You know, it would be smart to price tickets for the more popular movies at a higher price than others. I could have seen New Moon tickets at 8 or 9 bucks, but other movies that are already out and not as popular could at least be dropped down to lets say 5 or 6 bucks. That way people aren't complaining that the movie they are seeing is overpriced.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: DarkHououmon on December 05, 2009, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: LBTFan13,Dec 5 2009 on  12:35 PM
You have movie theaters that charge you only 5 bucks for a ticket? Wow your lucky :blink:  
All the theaters I go to in Pennsylvania charge 8 or 9 bucks to see a movie, and then popcorn is at least 4 bucks depending on the size.
Well the theatre I tend to go to is relatively small. It's not really big or fancy.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: thebigdeal on December 05, 2009, 06:58:47 PM
:lol I'm laughing my fatass off reading the posts of WierdRaptor's and DarkHoumon's war....

Has anyone caught the Back to the Future reference at the end of the film? I have!
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 06, 2009, 04:06:28 AM
The ending more reminded of the ending of the MIckey Christmas Carol. You may need to elaborate more. Also, the director of the Back to the Future films made Christmas Carol.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: pokeplayer984 on December 08, 2009, 12:59:39 AM
You know what I hate with this movie?  The reviews of parents that have seen it with their kids.  They saw it and their kids got scared and they are upset about that.  They are mad at Disney for making a scary movie.

If you ask me, the ones they should be mad at are themselves for overlooking some obvious points that would've come in handy.  First off, just because it's Disney doesn't mean it's going to be for kids, despite the fact they have made plenty of kids movies.  Their take on Pirates of the Caribbean is plenty of proof on that.  Second, IT'S PG!!  That rating right there is a warning that kids of a certain age will find it scary and/or disturbing.  Third, it's based off of a dark story and tries to stay true to said dark story.  There was no way kids of a certain age were going to enjoy this.

Let this be a lesson to all parents out there.  Disney =/= for kids.  At least, not always.

Now, what I liked about this movie is how dark it was.  I have read the book myself and this movie is the closest adaptation of the book that I have ever seen.  Jim Carry was given a lot of roles and handled them all quite well.  I admire him for his comedy, but I never expected him to pull off Scrooge so well.  The man is very talented. :)

The animation is just spectacular.  Some say that this type of animation just can't work, but this guy definitely knows what he's doing.  The beginning sequence is done amazingly well.  In fact, all of the scenes are.  Those who say it can't work, just see this movie and you'll be proven wrong.

I may feel like I'm repeating everyone, but this is surely the best adaptation of A Christmas Carol I have ever seen. :)
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: DarkHououmon on December 08, 2009, 09:18:56 AM
I wasn't aware parents were complaining about this movie being scary, but I don't see that as a problem. What about other stuff like Goosebumps and Return to Oz? Both are scary yet they are meant for a younger audience. When did scary automatically mean not for kids?
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Kor on December 08, 2009, 10:25:58 AM
Sounds to me like some typical folks over reacting to things.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: thebigdeal on December 08, 2009, 11:48:02 AM
Quote from: Kor,Dec 8 2009 on  06:25 AM
Sounds to me like some typical folks over reacting to things.
 :lol
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: LBTFan13 on December 08, 2009, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: pokeplayer984,Dec 7 2009 on  11:59 PM
You know what I hate with this movie?  The reviews of parents that have seen it with their kids.  They saw it and their kids got scared and they are upset about that.  They are mad at Disney for making a scary movie.

 
What I also love is how earlier Disney movies are not criticized for affecting kids because of the themes in them. Take movies like The Lion King and Bambi. Both movies are Disney and deal with the death of a loved one. The particular scenes where the loved one dies are two of the most depressing scenes in movie history, and as far as I can tell there haven't been too many complaints on how these will affect their kids. And yet today, when a remake of a dark tale comes around, parents automatically hound down Disney's throats because there were some scary parts.

I agree this is just a lot of people overreacting, but it annoys me because then they complete miss the true art in this movie.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on December 08, 2009, 06:17:59 PM
Quote from: LBTFan13,Dec 8 2009 on  03:19 PM
Quote from: pokeplayer984,Dec 7 2009 on  11:59 PM
You know what I hate with this movie?  The reviews of parents that have seen it with their kids.  They saw it and their kids got scared and they are upset about that.  They are mad at Disney for making a scary movie.

 
What I also love is how earlier Disney movies are not criticized for affecting kids because of the themes in them. Take movies like The Lion King and Bambi. Both movies are Disney and deal with the death of a loved one. The particular scenes where the loved one dies are two of the most depressing scenes in movie history, and as far as I can tell there haven't been too many complaints on how these will affect their kids. And yet today, when a remake of a dark tale comes around, parents automatically hound down Disney's throats because there were some scary parts.

I agree this is just a lot of people overreacting, but it annoys me because then they complete miss the true art in this movie.
 :exactly

These parents push their children to grow up WAY too fast and yet sheild them from a classic dark tale :rolleyes:  :bang.  That's the kind of parenting that messes kids up. It's like letting your seven year-old daughter wear heels and a mini skirt and give her a cell phone, and yet don't allow her to see a PG-rated film :bang.  Then the parents wonder years later how in the hell their daughter, now aged fifteen, got knocked up :!.  It's common sense, folks.
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 08, 2009, 08:18:42 PM
Ugh. Seriously? These people took their kids to see a rendering of a Christmas Carol and were surprised when certain things scared the youngsters? Why do I have the feeling these are the same morons who took five year olds to Lord of the Rings?
Title: A Christmas Carol
Post by: WeirdRaptor on December 08, 2009, 08:32:55 PM
This new turn in this topic reminds me of this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main...anItsNotForKids (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Ptitlerax1116nu5ji?from=Main.WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids)