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Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => The Arts => Silver Screen => Topic started by: Adder on July 17, 2010, 07:11:12 PM

Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on July 17, 2010, 07:11:12 PM
My and my family went to a yard sale yesterday and I found The Pebble and the Penguin. I have yet to watch as I have been busy with my fan art and fanfictions.

One thing I'm wondering is, why wasn't there ever plans for a sequel, well, there is one spoof of the movie, Happy Feet.

Personally I think that it was good enough to have atleast one sequel (seen it on youtube, that's why I bought it).

Dose anyone here know how much money it made? No word on wikipedia or IMDB.

Other than Ice Age, okay scratch that, it is my currenty fave movie.

My fave character is Marina (as many of you can tell) and my favorite songs are Now and Forver and Marina's version of Sometimes I Wonder.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: DarkHououmon on July 17, 2010, 08:27:25 PM
Far as I know, Happy Feet wasn't a spoof of Pebble and the Penguin. It didn't even have the same plot.

As for how much it made, I'm not sure, but it obviously didn't earn enough movie to warrant a sequel.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on July 17, 2010, 08:34:11 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Jul 17 2010 on  07:27 PM
Far as I know, Happy Feet wasn't a spoof of Pebble and the Penguin.
Actually if you compare several plot-points in the movies, they appear to be very similar.

Hubie = Mumble, they are both shy at first and both a have a love interest

Marina = Gloria, they both are both beautiful penguins, they are both good singers and they both have a shy love interest.


HubiexMarina = MumblexGloria = They are both seperated from each other for most of the movies.

Mumble and Hubie are both chased by a leopard seal and killer whales.

Both Mumble and Hubie are captured by humans to be taken to a zoo

Both movies are comedy romance and musicials

Neither Mumble nor Hubie can sing

The endings are very similar too, both Main characters get girls in the end and have a child(ren)

The endings both left an opening for a sequel (Happy Feet : Yes  :DD  , Pebble : No :neutral )

They both begin with all the penguins singing and dancing, just the orders are reversed in Happy Feet it was girls first, in pebble it was the boys first

Both movies feature singing and dancing penguins
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on July 17, 2010, 08:44:24 PM
Quote from: DarkHououmon,Jul 17 2010 on  07:27 PM
As for how much it made, I'm not sure, but it obviously didn't earn enough movie to warrant a sequel.
Found it!

The Pebble and the Penguin (1995)

Budget = $28,000,000

Gross revenue = $3,983,912


Here's the Land Before Time (1988)

Budget = $12,300,000

Gross revenue = $84,460,846


It has a higher budge than first LBT movie (same director). Ice Age (2002) was originally supposed to be directed by Don Bluth, so it proably would've been less than the Pebble and the Penguin.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Clawandfang on July 18, 2010, 03:12:50 AM
The chances of a sequel being made when you made that much of a loss on the first film are rather low.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on July 18, 2010, 07:32:57 AM
Quote from: Clawandfang,Jul 18 2010 on  02:12 AM
The chances of a sequel being made when you made that much of a loss on the first film are rather low.
Okay, but if it had a higher budget than the first land before time, why didn't anyone even consider a sequel. Each The Land Before Time movie has made less than the first, but I bet if they made thirteen Pebble and the Penguin movies, each movie would make more money than the last and probaly be liked better. Just like the ice age movies, it might've gone the same way if considered multiple sequels.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Clawandfang on July 18, 2010, 10:58:48 AM
Quote from: ScratteLover3,Jul 18 2010 on  12:32 PM
Okay, but if it had a higher budget than the first land before time, why didn't anyone even consider a sequel.
Well, if I was a film producer, I would prefer films that are cheap to make yet still sell well. That way you make more money.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on July 20, 2010, 06:29:49 PM
Quote from: Clawandfang,Jul 18 2010 on  09:58 AM
Well, if I was a film producer, I would prefer films that are cheap to make yet still sell well. That way you make more money.
Wait, is the budget how much it costs to make or how much it made? I never look this stuff on wikipedia or anywhere else.

I also thought that budget and gross are same thing.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Saft on August 03, 2010, 02:45:51 PM
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I also thought that budget and gross are same thing.

Nope.  
Budget=money it took to make film
Gross=money that the film made in cinemas etc.

I have seen pebble and the penguin, although I'll admit it's been a long time since I saw it.  Personally, I didn't really like it that much (aside from Rocco) I was more into the TLK.   However, it was a film that my sister liked...
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Mumbling on August 03, 2010, 06:11:02 PM
Happy Feet is nothing like Pebble and the Penguin... That's just offensive :p

No sequel because they apparently lost a lot of money with creating that movie.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Nick22 on August 03, 2010, 06:13:26 PM
pebble and the Penguin had a budget of $28 million and made less than 4 million.  usually they don't make sequels to movies that flop..
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on August 03, 2010, 06:15:47 PM
Quote from: Nick22,Aug 3 2010 on  05:13 PM
pebble and the Penguin had a budget of $28 million and made less than 4 million.  usually they don't make sequels to movies that flop..
Well, as good as it was, I'm surprised it made less than 4 million. I was really hoping for a sequel, but it seems very doubtful. :cry
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Nick22 on August 03, 2010, 06:30:59 PM
it has been 15 years since they made Pebble. they are not going to make a sequel, unless its a crappy direct to video or DVd affair.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Petrie. on August 04, 2010, 07:01:12 PM
PATP was just not a unique film and not very interesting...that's why it flopped.  Don Bluth didn't even want his name attached to it if that gives you an idea of what the film became when it was finally shown.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 24, 2010, 06:26:06 PM
I showed my brother the opening titles of the movie, and here's his comment: "2 minutes in and I can already tell it's crap".
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: 2007excalibur2007 on August 24, 2010, 07:10:58 PM
^
Lol, I'm even better - I don't even have to watch the movie to know that it's crap. :lol :p
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on August 24, 2010, 07:47:20 PM
Quote from: 2007excalibur2007,Aug 24 2010 on  06:10 PM
^
Lol, I'm even better - I don't even have to watch the movie to know that it's crap. :lol :p
:anger

How would you know? If you'd watch it, you'd like it.

Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnIGMheVFeg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnIGMheVFeg)
Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY4kfKanJj0&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY4kfKanJj0&feature=related)
Part 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iRlJ7Bf02s&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iRlJ7Bf02s&feature=related)
Part 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWWbzfXvDbc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWWbzfXvDbc&feature=related)
Part 5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO1PHR-pl_U&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO1PHR-pl_U&feature=related)
Part 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxs9IwMWkEI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxs9IwMWkEI&feature=related)
Part 7:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esiaCq32HtA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esiaCq32HtA&feature=related)


Never judge a movie just by a trailer. Just watch it, I'm serious you'll like. Even people who comment on the videos do.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: dino-doug on August 24, 2010, 07:52:47 PM
Happy Feet is to Pebble and the Penguin as what Disney's Dinosaur is to Land Before Time; a realistically computer animated, more adult version of the previous movie.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on August 24, 2010, 07:54:10 PM
Quote from: dino-doug,Aug 24 2010 on  06:52 PM
Happy Feet is to Pebble and the Penguin
That's what I said, I even consider Happy Feet a spoof of Pebble and the Penguin.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Campion1 on August 24, 2010, 07:56:16 PM
I'm sure that's against the rules there, scrattelover.

I haven't see this movie myself, but if I've never heard of it then I'm sure there's a reason
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on August 24, 2010, 07:57:45 PM
Quote from: Campion1,Aug 24 2010 on  06:56 PM
I haven't see this movie myself, but if I've never heard of it then I'm sure there's a reason
These are reasons why I think it is (just copied from an earlier post):

Quote from: ScratteLover3 on  
Actually if you compare several plot-points in the movies, they appear to be very similar.

Hubie = Mumble, they are both shy at first and both a have a love interest

Marina = Gloria, they both are both beautiful penguins, they are both good singers and they both have a shy love interest.


HubiexMarina = MumblexGloria = They are both seperated from each other for most of the movies.

Mumble and Hubie are both chased by a leopard seal and killer whales.

Both Mumble and Hubie are captured by humans to be taken to a zoo

Both movies are comedy romance and musicials

Neither Mumble nor Hubie can sing

The endings are very similar too, both Main characters get girls in the end and have a child(ren)
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Campion1 on August 24, 2010, 08:09:29 PM
So now you're blaming Happy Feet?
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on August 24, 2010, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: Campion1,Aug 24 2010 on  07:09 PM
So now you're blaming Happy Feet?
Huh? I was just showing you connections between the movies.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: DarkHououmon on August 24, 2010, 08:36:11 PM
Quote from: ScratteLover3,Aug 24 2010 on  07:47 PM
Never judge a movie just by a trailer. Just watch it, I'm serious you'll like. Even people who comment on the videos do.
Even if he watches it, he may still not like it. And if he doesn't, that's fine. Not everyone is going to like the movie. I admit I used to like it years ago, but I don't like it anymore nowadays.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: dino-doug on August 24, 2010, 08:38:49 PM
I, too, liked PATP as a kid. Checked it out the other day, and it was kind of annoying; Animation was pretty good. Hubie seemed a little light in the "flippers", if you know what I mean; (I don't know... He had girly eye-lashes and Martin Short's voice; is that guy really gay?) Well, he did love Marina pretty much, but still... The best part of the movie was the tough-as-nails rockhopper Rocko, voiced by Jim Belushi. He toughened Hubie up, and he kicked bad guy Drakes AAA... ahem... tailfeathers. I did like the little buddy comedy bit him and Hubie had going on.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Amaranthine on September 01, 2010, 08:39:32 PM
This just came in from Neflix so I have yet to watch it. I find it funny this was inspired by a documentary. (At least it says so on the netflix shelve)
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Daddytops2009 on September 02, 2010, 05:09:19 PM
I haven't seen The Pebble and the Penguin yet.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on September 02, 2010, 05:17:33 PM
Quote from: Daddytops2009,Sep 2 2010 on  04:09 PM
I haven't seen The Pebble and the Penguin yet.
Read this post by me (http://www.gangoffive.net/index.php?topic=8027.0#entry9204107) for the links to watch it.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Cancerian Tiger on September 02, 2010, 11:54:40 PM
Quote from: dino-doug,Aug 24 2010 on  07:38 PM
(I don't know... He had girly eye-lashes and Martin Short's voice; is that guy really gay?)
No, Martin Short was happily married for many, many years.  His wife just died from cancer about two weeks ago :cry.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Amaranthine on September 03, 2010, 10:26:56 PM
I'm trying to not have my criticism in the way of enjoying the movie. But so far I enjoy it, but it's filled with Big Lipped Aligator moments.

Annnnd....WHY IS THERE UNNESASSARY NARRATION IN THIS. I get it's a kid's movie, but still...just...why?
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Daddytops2009 on September 19, 2010, 05:50:25 PM
Tooncrap reviews The Pebble and the Penguin

http://tooncrap.blogspot.com/2010/09/pebble-and-penguin.html (http://tooncrap.blogspot.com/2010/09/pebble-and-penguin.html)
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Adder on September 19, 2010, 05:56:26 PM
^
That site must like trashing the good movies. I believe when it said Don Bluth's movies in the 80's and 90's were trash, he was reffering to Land Before Time and The Rats of Nihm, those were good movies. This guy has probaly never seen any of Don's movies.
Title: The Pebble and the Penguin
Post by: Petrie. on September 21, 2010, 05:10:45 PM
Happy Feet was far more political, and the political message is evident from the second half of the film onward.