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Beyond the Mysterious Beyond => Hobbies and Recreation => Gamers Zone => Topic started by: tempestwheel on July 07, 2011, 08:51:11 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Vita (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Vita)
Having gotten into the PSP recently, I think the Vita looks rather interesting. Based on the page for games announced for the console (and the games after all are what's important), I'm rather looking forward to:
Wipeout 2048, Modnation Racers (If it's an different version than the current PSP one), and the next Ridge Racer.
Anyone else excited?
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I dunno. Since I've had my PSP, there have been some good titles for it. However, I haven't really seen anything particularly big on the PSP scene since Dissidia 012 and it's been gathering dust. The Vita looks like it's got some nice features but as with any console, for me, if the game titles are decent enough, then I might be encouraged to invest in one. At the moment, can't say my interest has been piqued enough. Let's see what happens once it's out.
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To be fair, it seems every console, in it's final year, doesn't really produce any major/good games it seems these days...
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To be fair, it seems every console, in it's final year, doesn't really produce any major/good games it seems these days...
Companies usually save their big projects for the newer systems where it will most likely sell more copies as a launch title
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As usual, Sony managed to envoke a very strong sense of apathy in me with it's console designs. Yeah, this will probably be the last PlayStation device released.
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Really, I think the Playstation isn't dead yet WR, I'm optimistic about it.
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The Playstation is far from being dead, actually. There's no signs of such a thing.
And if you bring up the fact that the Playstation Network was hacked, keep in mind that the Nintendo Wii was also hacked.
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The Playstation just isn't dead.
remember, even if the PS3 is in third place in sales, remember how well sales-wise the Gamecube was doing during it's lifetime.
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And to add to that, if the Playstation really is dead/dying, how come there's still a lot of games coming out on the PS? Why would gaming companies invest in putting their games on a "dying system"?
Just trying to make a point. Not everyone will like the Playstation. That's unavoidable. We all have different tastes. But before we state negative things about a console we don't like (for instance stating that a system is dying), we should get the facts first and take a good look at how the console is actually doing instead of letting our love for one particular console cloud our judgment on other consoles.
Though I tend to be more neutral when it comes to consoles. I don't consider myself an obsessive fan over Playstation, or Nintendo (the main two consoles I play). I feel a neutral position allows for a more fair view on the consoles.
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Nintendo's been making way too many innovations and Sony has done a piss poor job keeping up. It will die soon. Lots of games? Not reallh. The latest PS had by far the least games and what it did have was also on the Wii or 360. Oh yes, it will die.
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What happened to being optimistic and not nay-saying about a console before it comes out, WR?
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Sony's recent decisons. First they made the PS3 as archaic, over-priced, and obsolete as they possibly could, and then they aped Nintendo's design for the Wii as blatantly as they could. At least the Kinect tried to be original to some degree, even if it was crap. They have nothing left to offer the gaming world.
What sets the Gamecube apart from the PS3 is that the PS3 actually deserved to be the worst seller.
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Well, there are people who like Sony, and besides, there have been plenty of consoles that are "the same as previous generations, only better graphics."
You could say the "Ps2 is just PS1, better graphics" or "Gamecube is just N64, better graphics."
I'm not calling any company dead or doomed. And even if the PS3 was flawed, why is it impossible to learn from your mistakes?
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Then I feel sorry for anyone who does like them and their inferior products. If they were ever going to learn from their mistakes, they would have better designs for their next console and handheld. Nintendo is going to kick their asses again, and rightly so.
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Ah, so anyone who likes Sony is stupid, huh?
So you think anyone who doesn't think the same way as you in regards to video games is an idiot? Nice.
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No, I feel sorry for them because they're not going to be around much longer. With these pathetic designs, they'll be lucky to last long enough to close up shop by the time Nintendo announces it's next handheld.
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I like Sony, and I like Nintendo. Nothing wrong with that. I find it annoying at how there are people who are so blinded by an obsession with one console that they'll hate on another console, even if that console is doing better than they believe it is.
Even Nintendo has made mistakes in the past and is not perfect. If one really thinks Sony is doing the same stuff over and over again, they should remember that Nintendo is the same way. What is coming out on Nintendo recently? From what I have seen, it's largely reboots and rehashes of the same franchises, such as Mario and Zelda. I'm pretty sure X-Box is the same way.
The fact is, repetition is common in games nowadays and is not solely the biproduct of one console; but that all consoles suffer the same thing. It's because of gamers who are too scared to try anything new and prefer sticking to the same formula over and over again (and ironically some of those same people will rant about how games today are all the same).
Rather than be short-sighted and think only one console is becoming repetitive, one should open their eyes and see that it's all the consoles that are suffering from this problem, and games in general, and it's because of gamers, not the companies.
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Well, that's still better than anything Sony's been up to. Don't lie to me, Dark. I know you don't like Nintendo. I very clearly remembering you having nothing but scorn for the Wii the last the matter came up.
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:anger Just because you don't like Sony doesn't mean other people don't.
WR, how come you gleefully bash anything you don't like but if someone in any way critiques something you like, you get all ticked off?
Isn't that a tad hypocritical?
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Hey, I'm a Nintendo fan. After years of having to put with idiotic PS fans bashing the Nintendo and having to take it because the Gamecube was on the bottom, I'm going to enjoy throwing the venom back for all it's worth.
And, what the Nintendo is up to actually is better than anything Sony has going on.
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And because somebody tried to be neutral on the topic, you accuse them of faking it?
Wow, just wow....
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Ya know what WR, I'm a big slasher movie fan. I know you're not one, but you probably agree that the genre is one of the most heavily critiqued ones.
But you know what, I accept those remarks. I don't call people snobs for not liking slasher movies.
Heck, if someone's taste in movies/games is different from mine, I accept that.
I don't feel the need to stomp on other people's views just cause they're not the same as mine! :anger
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She is faking it. The last time Nintendo came up in a discussion, she didn't have two good things to say about it. My memory is not faulty.
You misunderstand me. I will bash the PlayStation whenever I feel like it, but that's it. I'm not accusing anyone of anything that didn't happen.
Oh, but I do accept your opinion. That doesn't change the fact that Sony's latest attempts have been craptacular, though. Sony lost focus of what a game console is. The PS3 had very few titles, and far too much focus was put on the peripheril functions. And the PSP was just ass. Seriously, a memory AND a memory chip thingy before I could save a game?!
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One advantage of being neutral on the topic of consoles is that it allows me to see the strengths and weaknesses of both Nintendo and Sony and am able to enjoy them without worrying about "which console is better". I don't have the disadvantage of being blind by a devotion to one.
It is not the consoles that make the games. It is the games that make the games. I don't play for the consoles. I play for the games.
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hey WR, i have both systems, both have thier flaws. to say one is craptacular while ignoring the flaws of the others is going too far. Sony puts millions into its systems, if they were epic failurees (like dReamcast) they would soon not sell them. Accept peoples different opinions on this, and leave it be. brek is right on what he says. just as you accept peoples different taste in movies, so should you accept their different perference in games and systems.
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I'm not blindly devoted. I just know what's good when I see it.
EDIT: Sony didn't make Dreamcast. That was Sega, and that was the console that put them out of business, unfortunately.
Again, I do accept their opinions of Sony, but the PS3 is still crap.
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thats fine but you don't need to paint with a broad brush
there are good games on every system after all. much like dreamnworks has good films, even if they are not quitre as highly regarded as pixar.
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Speaking of memory....
Didn't you tell Kacie and Animeboye to "kiss your ass" because they didn't like your bashing of avatar in the "fav film of 2010" topic?
Also, in regards to memory, weren't you the one who said there shouldn't be naysayers before a product comes out?
Weren't you the one who says "we shouldn't take things on TGWTG seriously and just enjoy them" when you were the one made a whole topic about one person who disliked Kickassia?
Yeah, my memory ain't faulty either
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True, but all of those games can also be found on the Wii and the 360.
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To say that one shouldn't naysay a product before it comes out in a Nintendo topic and then turn around and naysay a product before it comes out on a Sony topic is called hypocrisy.
I do find it annoying how someone can be so negative towards a concept or product simply because they don't like the company, and then if their favorite company comes up with the exact same thing (whether before or later) they suddenly think it's the best idea in the world.
I grew up playing more than one console. I grew up on Nintendo, Sega Genesis, and Sony Playstation. Oh and Atari too. As a result, I never developed a strong devotion (extreme fangirlism) towards one console in particular. And I'm glad for that.
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Animeboye basically attacked me. Yes, I did say we should give products a chance before they come out, however, in this case, I will make an exception, since the Sony has given me no reason to believe in it anymore. Sony's design is not identical to the Wii U, by the way.
As TGWTG and Kickassia. Neither one are meant to be taken seriously. That still holds and has no baring here.
Well, I couldn't afford to have a Sega and PlayStation. I had to pick a side and stick with it.
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thus is the nature of multiplatform games. there aren't many games made today that are exclusive, most of are multiplatform..
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But feeling the need to make a whole topic because perosn gave a negative review?
And so you're saying it's ok for you to be hypocritical about your own views on nay saying?
Wow....just...just...wow.
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No, I'm just saying that some situations call for exceptions. Alright, fine, I'll give this thing Sony's making a try, if I can afford the blasted thing. I doubt it, because my spare cash is going straight for the superior device, the Wii U.
And that's as nice as you're going to get from me when it comes to Sony.
Oh, and it wasn't just one person who made a negative review of Kickassia. The internet is basically swimming with them.
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Just because you "have a side" doesn't mean you have to crap all over every side WR!
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Then maybe Sony fans shouldn't pick fights like they usually do. Just an a nasty one with some moron who insisted that Sony should buy out Legend of Zelda and fix it. I would be willing to tolerate the existance of the PS systems of it's fans weren't so horrible most of the time.
That's a part of why I want Sony to just fail this time. Fail and have it go under and shut them up permanently.
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let me be clear on this everyone. I do not want a spat to erupt over this.. if it dooes it will be reviewed by the admins, and WR, your record isn't exactly clean. This is ultimately a matter that falls under opinion, which I always try to respect on here. So everyone lets keep this civil alright?
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Wr..let me remind you that you were the one who came here and bashed
You are the one who bashes Sony at every opportunity. You are the one who loves to play the "you're a Snob!" card in regards to critiques of things you like, but you've said some incredibly snobbish things in this topic alone!
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Taking a side isn't always the best choice. For instance, when it comes to judges, they cannot take sides; they have to be neutral and look at the evidence before convicting anyone.
When it comes to gaming, picking a side and sticking with just one console doesn't make one more knowledgeable on gaming consoles in general, and in fact makes one more closed-minded. A neutral stand is better because, without an obsession over one console, the gamer can more fairly judge the games.
From what I understand, professional gamers tend to be neutral as well, and generally look down upon obsessive fanboys that stick to one console and bash the others.
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I never called anyone a snob. Don't you lie to me about my own actions.
I'm not a judge or a professional gamer, Dark. I can't afford to become either even I wanted to. And I don't obsess over the Nintendo. However, both their consoles and games are a lot better than the competition's. I don't say that lightly or blindly, either. I have friends who own the other stuff and never enjoy what the other companies bring to the table half as much.
You want me to be more 'well-rounded' as a gamer and play all the consoles? Then you can cover the charges, because I can afford exactly one console and later, maybe one handheld (still haven't been able to afford the 2DS), per generation without going into the red for months.
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So you can only afford one console a generation....I'm fine with that.
So you're next console will be the Wii U...I'm fine with that.
But if you're not going to play the next Sony console...I'm fine if you're not gonna play it.
Just don't completely bash one thing because you don't like the previous consoles!
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I'll hold back to the venom from now on, for you. Next idiot who claims that Nintendo should sell out to Sony, though, won't get the same treatment.
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I'm not saying Nintendo should out at all.
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Nintendo is not selling out to Sony. Nor, frankly wold I want them to. I like the diversity of games and consoles. Keep that "venom' of yours in check WR, alright. not just for brek or for me, but really for your own sake. I know thease consoles and games aren't cheap , heck they start at 60 when they come out per game, and 200 for consoles, PS3 was about 600, for me thats about 2 months salary. You're not alone in being limited in whart you purchase WR. just don;t let your arguments with posters elsewhere carry over to here. We didn't start these arguments with you afterall..
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Wr...nobody's complaining that "You like nintendo and hate sony." No one has a problem with your opinion.
It's your blatant hypocrisy, smugness, and attitude in general people have been having a problem with here.
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Whoa such a heated debate :unsure:
The one thing I might have a problem with is the team up with At&t for 3G. I don't appreciate At&t's service at all. Other than that, it sounds like a good PSP successor.
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To be perfectly frank, brek, I don't care. I know I already blew whatever good will any of you could possible have years ago. Nothing I do at this point could change what anyone feels about me if I wanted.
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on other boards, if posters didn't get along with each other, they could put the other poster on "ignore" which m,eant that the poster ignoring thebother poster, could not read the others posts. in this case, brek you could "ignore what Weird Raptor posts and vice versa. We currently don't have it here (at least I think) but I think we could look into adding it.. so stuff like this is nipped in the bud.
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I hate handheld consoles. I prefer playing my games on a big screen TV with surround sound, thankyouverymuch.
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I hate handheld consoles. I prefer playing my games on a big screen TV with surround sound, thankyouverymuch.
Agreed. Although, I'd rather play them on a PC than a console.
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I've always wondered, isn't it hard to play with a keyboard? It just seems like that'd be a lot of buttons and a lot of possibility to accidentally press the wrong one.
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They have controllers that you can customize and connect to the computer if you have trouble with keyboard controls but I myself never had any trouble using the keyboard.
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Warning going out to contributors of this topic!
Need I remind you that one of the golden rules for this section of the forum is NO CONSOLE WARRING! If actions like this continue, topics of such a nature will be removed from the forum and punishments will be issued.
This topic will be closed for now and members' behaviour and conduct will be discussed by the admin team.
Everyone has their preferred systems, games etc. but I will NOT tolerate fanboy trolling on this forum. DO NOT let this happen again!