RMVB Files

landbeforetimelover · **on:** December 10, 2007, 01:06:41 AM

This is a new type of video format used by real player that allows for much greater compression and much higher quality than DIVX encoded video files. It is said to be the future of video encoding. I am going to begin a thorough analysis of this type of media file, but it looks good and will almost certainly replace the all too popular DIVX encoded AVI files. This will soon be what we're gonna have to deal with. If you hate real player (as I do), you can download this program to play these files without needing real player:

http://www.free-codecs.com/download_soft.php?d=3776&s=65

It's bundled with media player classic. Downloading this or installing real player is currently the only way to play these files, but as this file format becomes more popular, I'm sure there'll be more ways to play and use this type of file.

EDIT: After some analysis, I've concluded that this type of video encoding is far superior. The same video encoded with DIVX took up 500mb, whereas the video file in RMVB took up only 101mb and was almost double the quality.

Flexibility is limited however. You cannot play these files in any DVD player and converting them makes them huge. No program currently supports them (such as the program I use to make my music vids sadly) so it is a very rigid file format right now.

Kor · **Reply #1 on:** December 10, 2007, 02:53:06 AM

I guess you'll start encoding your stuff in that format? And is it very cpu intensive as divx seems to be?

The Great Valley Guardian · **Reply #2 on:** December 10, 2007, 03:56:57 AM

Is this download compatible with Mac OS X? And is it free of charge?

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #3 on:** December 10, 2007, 04:12:34 AM

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I guess you'll start encoding your stuff in that format? And is it very cpu intensive as divx seems to be?

DIVX CPU Intensive? Do you mean when encoding it or playing it? Playing DIVX files isn't CPU intensive at all, but encoding sure is. As for encoding RMVB files, I couldn't tell you if it's more or less CPU intensive than encoding DIVX because I have such a good computer. I don't notice that sort of thing.

I will currently be converting all of my LBT vids into this format once they come out with a version of VLC that will support this new format and they come out with a plugin to support it in my music video making software. As for now, I'm sticking with DIVX because it is currently more flexible than RMVB files. I hope that will change however.

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Is this download compatible with Mac OS X? And is it free of charge?

I don't believe that the alternative to real player that I linked to in compatible with macs, but I know real player is. Yeah, ya have to go through a lot of crap to get it for free and ya have to jump through all their hoops, but you can get it for free. They try to make it look like it's free and then they give you some crap about your trial being up. I wouldn't download it directly from real players website. I'd download it from download.com to avoid most of the crap Real Player makes ya go through.

EDIT: Not surprising, this new format was invented in Japan. It seems that nothing technological is invented on this side of the world. <_<

Petrie. · **Reply #4 on:** December 10, 2007, 07:41:57 AM

Real Media Variable Bitrate - nice compression on 2-d animation, but you can't do anything (absolutely anything) with the files except watch them unless you get something to re-encode them to divx/avi (see the KMPlayer). While it is nice, I'd rather stick with something that is more universally usable in other apps besides just a media player to watch the files.

I know its an older download, and encoding speed sucks, but Windows Media Encoder 9 and the conversion tool is pretty darn good too and is more usable cross-programs.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #5 on:** December 10, 2007, 09:38:31 AM

Yeah, right now the encoding format sucks, but the results are pretty darn good. Perhaps one day, this format will be as versitile as DIVX.

Manny Cav · **Reply #6 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:41:34 AM

Currently not versitle enough for me to cinsider, but it is a new format, so mabey it will pick up speed.

Petrie. · **Reply #7 on:** December 10, 2007, 07:52:53 PM

Quote from: landbeforetimelover,Dec 10 2007 on 08:38 AM

Yeah, right now the encoding format sucks, but the results are pretty darn good. Perhaps one day, this format will be as versitile as DIVX.

RealNetworks does nothing to offer any support for its stuff. Nothing! There's a reason so many applications do not support RealMedia of any kind...its because Real hogs its format and doesn't offer code or licenses to developers. They won't do a darn thing to license RealMedia video. That's be a real turn of a corner if I ever saw one.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #8 on:** December 10, 2007, 08:02:03 PM

Oh well. At least I'll be able to encode all my vids in this format and play them with real alternative on the road. My laptop doesn't have much space on it, so it'd be great to get smaller video files without losing quality. After all, ya can't put many vids on a laptop with only 200gb.

Petrie. · **Reply #9 on:** December 10, 2007, 09:21:40 PM

Yeah, whatever...I still have yet to fill a 250gb harddrive...and it includes videos and flac audio...not even halfway there. What are you doing? Putting all your dvds on your harddrive at 4gb per video or something?

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #10 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:49:17 PM

Well, I rip the DVD's, but I'm not gonna settle for little crappy 700mb rips. I rip them and it's about 2.5gb each. It's in almost full DVD quality. It was the best I could get at the least cost. I'm not gonna settle for anything less than the quality I have now, but when I convert it to an RMVB file, it'll probably take up less than 500mb and be the same quality!

Petrie. · **Reply #11 on:** December 10, 2007, 10:54:12 PM

RMVB Lossy encoding = quality loss...whether you care or notice it will vary. Lossless video is insane in filesize (try an uncompressed avi), so you'll never get lossless video.

What encoder or program are you using to make these files? I've yet to find anything that does Real media.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #12 on:** December 10, 2007, 11:01:34 PM

You most likely won't be able to get this program cuz I don't believe they have a trial, but the program I'm using is unlead multimedia studio pro 8.0. In combonation with some sort of codec pack I installed a long time ago. I'm not sure if it's actually the program or the codec pack that's allowing me to do this. Here's a screenshot of the program:

Petrie. · **Reply #13 on:** December 11, 2007, 09:13:12 AM

Oh yeah...I've tried Unlead Pinnacle before and its a piece of junk, but you could save to a web file if you wanted to (WMV or RM). Took absolutely forever to render anything, so I wouldn't even regularly try to use it. You either saved projects every five/ten minutes or it would lock up. Lousy program.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #14 on:** December 11, 2007, 10:55:37 AM

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Oh yeah...I've tried Unlead Pinnacle before and its a piece of junk, but you could save to a web file if you wanted to (WMV or RM). Took absolutely forever to render anything, so I wouldn't even regularly try to use it. You either saved projects every five/ten minutes or it would lock up. Lousy program.

What? This is like my favorite program ever! It can do almost anything! Sometimes I don't even have to start up after effects cuz I can do it in here. They must've made some sort of enhancements or something cuz it's awesome! Either that, or it just doesn't freeze on me cuz I've got a state of the art computer system.

: I suppose I might consider it to be crap if I had any less than I do. But it ran fine on a computer with 2.4ghz and 1gb of ram. It never froze and I was doing a lot of other stuff too. Maybe the version you got was just screwed up or something.

Petrie. · **Reply #15 on:** December 12, 2007, 11:30:59 PM

I think you and me have a different program, same company.

landbeforetimelover · **Reply #16 on:** December 12, 2007, 11:44:27 PM

That may be. My program comes with multimedia organizers, multimedia editors, video direct converters, video direct splitters, and video making software along with a sophisticated sound editor all in one.

And it was really expensive. Oh well. I didn't pay for it.

: Thank you mom!

Petrie. · **Reply #17 on:** December 14, 2007, 09:04:44 AM

http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-Studio-Medi...97637405&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/Pinnacle-Studio-Medi...97637405&sr=8-3

This is the thing I've used in the past. Not rated too well.

Petrie. · **Reply #18 on:** December 14, 2007, 09:05:37 AM

http://www.realnetworks.com/products/producer/index.html

This might work for making real media files.