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What was Luke Skywalkers one flaw as he was training to be a Jedi?


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He had a bit of a temper, was a bit too literal minded, was too reckless, brash, and over-eager. Take your pick. It wasn't just one flaw.
"All you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you." -Gandalf


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He used The Force. (<---overused joke)


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& in episode 6 he was tempted and almost became a dark jedi, unlike his father who did fall to the dark side.


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He was also much older than Jedi usually were when they were trained. Even Anakin was considered too old and Luke was significantly older.
The concept of which emotions are considered "dark-side" and which are "not-dark-side" of the force are sometimes a bit difficult to appreciate though (but this would push open the gates for very long debates).


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The biggest flaw was probably impatience; he wanted to just get the training over with and start fighting the Empire. His biggest mistake was running away to Cloud City to fight Vader instead of staying on Dagobah with Yoda to finish his training.


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^ And this is where I think some of the ideals of the jedi can be "understood" but not necessarily approved off from a moral point of view unless one has no understanding or appreciation whatsoever for the importance of social contacts, friends, love etc.
Of course the concept of accepting personal sacrifices or even the sacrifices of friends for the "greater good" can be understood as a concept but there are times when I wonder if too great detachment from the world they seek to protect (trying to avoid any adherence of beings or places that could result in emotional reactions) wouldn't result in a degree of disconcern in the end. If it wasn't for the element of "the force" there are moments in which one wonders if the worldly ideal of a jedi wouldn't be a better functioning robot that wouldn't know any emotion.
Mercifully jedis don't tend to live up to so worldly-detached an interpretation of what they are saying.


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That said, in the originals, there was never a hint of this "completely detach your from the world" nonsense that the prequels brought. The impression was that good people of strong discipline could be Jedis.
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Quote from: Malte279,Jan 16 2011 on  02:38 PM
^ And this is where I think some of the ideals of the jedi can be "understood" but not necessarily approved off from a moral point of view unless one has no understanding or appreciation whatsoever for the importance of social contacts, friends, love etc.
Of course the concept of accepting personal sacrifices or even the sacrifices of friends for the "greater good" can be understood as a concept but there are times when I wonder if too great detachment from the world they seek to protect (trying to avoid any adherence of beings or places that could result in emotional reactions) wouldn't result in a degree of disconcern in the end. If it wasn't for the element of "the force" there are moments in which one wonders if the worldly ideal of a jedi wouldn't be a better functioning robot that wouldn't know any emotion.
Mercifully jedis don't tend to live up to so worldly-detached an interpretation of what they are saying.
In the many books set after the Star Wars movies (the books are considered canon), the new Jedi order that Luke Skywalker established deviates somewhat from the original Jedi order.  For instance, Jedi get married all the time now.  Leia became a Jedi and married Han Solo.  Luke got married also.  Oh yeah, Jedi also use Force Lightning now (or at least Luke does anyway).  Oh yeah, they also kick the "There can only be 2 Sith" rule to the curb too with some of the newer books.


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I like what a character in the KOTOR game named Jolee Bindo said, last I heard the game is considered cannon.  I read he's considered a grey jedi since he deviates somewhat from the order.  I don't recall his exact dialog but basically as I recall he says not having emotions that lead to the dark side, just that what your intent is, but that emotions can make it easier for you to slide into the dark side.  

For example supposedly  force lightning is only dark side.  Though I've read that there is a light side technique.  To me it makes more sense to say it is the intent.  If you use force lightning to torture and such like the emperor did  that would be dark side.  If you used it to start someone's heart who had a heart attack I would say that would not be dark side.  Same if you used it at a feeble level to recharge a battery.   Or if you use force lightning to stun or knock some out.   It should be the intent behind which the action is done.

If you go with what most of the order say then the perfect jedi would be either an emotionless robot, or a vulcan who has gone through the thing they can go through to purge themselves of all emotion, forgot what the technique or order is called.


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He was too eager to fight Darth Vader.