Oasis Scene

[Ducky123]

I originally wrote this in an upcoming novellisation of the first movie that I'm writing these days but I figured this discussion is placed here much better

So, we know pretty much how the original original movie was supposed to be and what was going to be where that we did not see. However, there's one scene more mysterious than the others and it's the only one we do not have any proof of (unless my memories fail me there):

The oasis scene

I do know the following about it (feel free to mention more details if I fail to recollect them)

• it was a scene to portrait the racism that reigned between all the different kinds, further underlining the "each herd to its own"- mentality that Littlefoot was taught by his mother which was practised by the wide majority of the herds back at that time (and, certainly, by all herds we were presented to until LBT 7, not counting the Great Valley residents, obviously)
  
• the scene is said to have shown the Gang reach a place that had both food and water but two different groups of dinosaurs (Greynoses/Hornfaces according to what Malte wrote here) were each having power over one of the two ressources. They would not allow the Gang (as well as refusing to share with each other) to have either of it except for Ducky who was allowed by the swimmer-like Greynoses to drink but refused unless her friends may drink too.
  

Eventually, the Gang leave though it is unknown what exactly has been said during the whole scene nor if this scene has even made it past some storyboard sketches at all. There is currently no evidence if this scene ever existed, being a mere product of the imagination of the book authors, nor at which point of the movie it was originally intended to be. My best guess for the latter is previous to the scene where the Gang is standing below this waterfall, smelling green food and right after the scene that shows Ducky luring Spike with the berries while the narrator talks about the new, unique herd that they formed. It would make sense that the scene would be placed there especially because of what the narrator says there, actually

What's your theory about it? I'm curious to hear it

[Sneak]

just in case: here's text of scene:
http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive/i...dpost&p=8374185

[Ducky123]

^that's the same link I posted too

[Sneak]

sorry. didn't notice the link

[Sovereign]

I'd say your guess is rather correct, Ducky. It makes sense for the scene to be around there but what exactly in the narrator's lines suggests that the cut sequence is exactly between those two scenes? I'm quite positive that this is one of the major cut parts. It's quite doubtful that the authors of the book were inspired enough to add new scenes out of stretch so I'd say it's most probable that they got the idea from Universal. Also, if there was 11 minutes of lost footage, it's logical that there's room for this approximately 2-3 minute scene to fit in there. This would underline the anti-racist theme of the film and a scene like this actually makes sense. It's really a shame that we won't see this in film but I'd say it's a good idea to put this into that new story is yours.  

[Ducky123]

Yeah, that was my line of thinking too. Right after the scene where Cera voted against Spike to stay with them, the effect of the oasis scene would have probably been the highest plus it must have been before the stampede scene somehow. Unless that stampede scene was originally not intended to be there and just a replacement of the oasis scene, it would not make much sense for the oasis scene to come after that. As for the oasis scene being right before the scene where the Gang is seen working together, I have my doubts. Surely, the Longnecks would have eaten the food of those creatures too?

Another thing... we do know that there must have been something cut right before the scene at the waterfalls (where Petrie and Ducky have that cute moment   ) because screenshots of Littlefoot running through that very waterfall do exist. I've read that outcut scene topic so many times in my early times on here that I remember pretty well which pictures were shared there

[Sneak]

Another thing... we do know that there must have been something cut right before the scene at the waterfalls (where Petrie and Ducky have that cute moment   ) because screenshots of Littlefoot running through that very waterfall do exist. I've read that outcut scene topic so many times in my early times on here that I remember pretty well which pictures were shared there

?
can you explain?

[Ducky123]

can you explain?

I'll try.

I have seen a screenshot of a cut scene in which Littlefoot is seen running through water which looks like the waterfall we see shortly before the Gang is seen walking along a narrow stream. The scene where Petrie says "I smell, I smell.... hmm Ducky!" and Ducky responds "You smell me?" *chuckles*

Anyway, that would imply that there was a cut scene which could have been the oasis scene!

I really don't feel like trying to find that screenshot now though. A lot of picture links are corrupted nowadays anyway

EDIT: I did it anyway and scimmed through 31 pages of the deleted scenes thread. Found what I was looking for at least
http://amcalmaron.deviantart.com/art/LBT-D...mages-244488975

[Sneak]

I have seen a screenshot of a cut scene in which Littlefoot is seen running through water which looks like the waterfall we see shortly before the Gang is seen walking along a narrow stream.

Isn't it from scene when Littlefoot found Valley alone and run back to the others to Burning Mountains?

[Ducky123]

Isn't it from scene when Littlefoot found Valley alone and run back to the others to Burning Mountains?

The thing is, I don't know. All I wrote above is speculation.

What I say now is pure hypothesis too and only based on the motion picture soundtrack of the movie (so... the one you can purchase, not the one you hear in the movie itself since there are significant differences due to the cut scenes )

When I listen to the part of the soundtrack that is supposed to be playing when Littlefoot arrives at the Great Valley the first time, it sounds like that scene ends rather abruptly with Littlefoot's decision to go back to save his friends. There is no music playing that suggests Littlefoot is running through that waterfall on his way to rescue his friends. The soundtrack of James Horner is so excellent because you can tell by the music alone what is happening even in a scene you don't know. A scene of Littlefoot running through that waterfall would surely use the water theme or some more dramatic scene, considering the situation.

What stumbles me though is Littlefoot's expression on that screenshot... he's happy. Only... why? I can't quite come to an unambiguous answer to that. Is he happy because he's just discovered the Great Valley? I'm not sure how Littlefoot would feel in such a situation. I mean, he could also be worried about his friends being alright? I don't know...  :unsure:

Another possibility that comes to my mind is, that this scene is actually IN the Great Valley though not very likely in my opinion.

I'll probably have to take a very close look at the waterfall scene again and make a screenshot to have a comparison...

[Sneak]

When I listen to the part of the soundtrack that is supposed to be playing when Littlefoot arrives at the Great Valley the first time, it sounds like that scene ends rather abruptly with Littlefoot's decision to go back to save his friends. There is no music playing that suggests Littlefoot is running through that waterfall on his way to rescue his friends. The soundtrack of James Horner is so excellent because you can tell by the music alone what is happening even in a scene you don't know. A scene of Littlefoot running through that waterfall would surely use the water theme or some more dramatic scene, considering the situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcOGACyjA8g&t=2m10s

also, here:http://z7.invisionfree.com/thegangoffive/i...showtopic=13704

Land Before Time OST is recorded in my mind. And I can say there're differences in ost versions and music from movie. And I don't talk about cut parts.

[Sovereign]

There was a great analysis of the original soundtrack back in the day by the same Almaron. I, too, studied the soundtrack back in the day and its almost depressing that we can hear the uncut soundtrack but never see those scenes ourselves. The Discovery of the Great Valley seems to be the most important proof of the original order of the film. As for Ducky's comment, I'm sure that Littlefoot would be overjoyed to find the Valley even alone as it would mean that the salvation is close and he could offer his friends a clear direction this time when he'd find them again. The ending seems like the most obvious scene to put those pictures of Littlefoot even if it could also be during the waterfall scene. Bluth never answered my questions concerning the cut scenes but i wonder if it's time for a third try soon.  :^.^:

[Ducky123]

You can never try too many times, Sovereign

@Snik Good point, actually. If the book shows the scenes that also appeared in the movie, then you are probably right with your idea Not really the kind of answer I was hoping for as it doesn't support my theory but I don't mind, haha

I know the analysis of Almaron, if I had a little more time (and dedication), I'd try my hands on something like that too since I know a little about music due to being a hobby pianist

[Sneak]

heh. funny, I have my own research of LBT OST.
written on paper

[Ducky123]

Now, why don't you share it with us? I'll give my best to add my thoughts to it?

[Phantom]

Since there's a lot of reused animation in the film, it might be worth seeing if any of the bigmouth or domehead footage may have been reused. Also, I just got in contact with Jim Razzi, so he may have the answer.

[Sneak]

Now, why don't you share it with us? I'll give my best to add my thoughts to it?

it's ugly looking

here's part of list




also featuring OC
XD

[Ducky123]

okay... it IS messy. Also, I can't read the notes  

[Sneak]

I can read and understand it. That's all I need.