Star Trek movies

F-14 Ace · **on:** April 09, 2011, 02:31:32 AM

Ok, I don't see any topics for this so I'm going to create what. I used to not like Star Trek. As a kid I thought it was boring. Then I saw the 2009 movie just earlier this year and to my surprise, I like it. I decided to check out some of the TV shows and movies. The only movies besides the 2009 film that I have seen from beginning to end are Generations and Nemesis. I've seen bits and pieces of the other movies though and I have actually grown to like them. Well, most of them. With most of these I have only seen the later halves of when I happened to catch them on TV. I wish they'd show a whole marathon with all the movies like what Spike TV does with the Star Wars films. The Sci-Fi channel sometimes shows a marathon but they never show all the movies back to back. They show them all out of order, which annoys me. I mean, first they showed Wrath of Khan, then Generations, then The Motion Picture. I'd like to watch each one of the movies from beginning to end (except for The Motion Picture because it still bores the crap out of me)

So basically here is a list of the Star Trek movies and my feelings toward them.

The Motion picture: saw the later half of it on TV. Was bored out of my mind. There was one part of the movie where it was literally just ten minutes of the ship flying through a space cloud that kept changing colors. That's it. The plot moved really slow and it just put me to sleep.

Wrath of Khan: Saw the later half of it on TV. It was pretty good. It was a heck of a lot better than TMP. I never saw the episode of the series where Khan first appeared but I read about it on the internet. I'd like to see the whole movie some time.

The Search for Spock: Saw most of the movie on TV. I liked it. The part where they stole the Enterprise was awesome thought it was kinda sad when it got blown later.

The Voyage Home: Same with the others. Only saw part of it but liked what I saw. My favorite part was the where Spock knocks out the punk on the bus with a Vulcan nerve pinch and everyone claps.

The Final Frontier: Never saw it. From what I've heard about it, I should probably be glad.

The Undiscovered Country: Never saw it but I heard it was one of the better ones.

Star Trek Generations: Saw the whole movie during a Star Trek marathon. It was alright but not as good as the others. The villain was lame and Kirk deserved a more dignified death than what he got.

First Contact: I only saw the second half of this movie but as with most of the others, I liked it. The general consensus is that this is one of the best Trek films.

Insurrection: Once again, I only saw the second half of it when I happened to be flipping through the channels. It was alright but it could have been better. By the way, does anyone else notice that every time Picard leaves Riker in charge, the Enterprise always gets trashed? I mean, the Enterprise D got messed up in Generations when Riker was in charge and the Enterprise E got pretty banged up in this movie while Riker was in command.

Nemesis: I saw the whole movie. I actually thought it was alright. I mean, it's not a great movie but I don't think it is as bad as people let on.

Star Trek (2009): Hell yeah! That's all I'm gonna say about it.

Chiletrek · **Reply #1 on:** April 13, 2011, 06:10:06 PM

Hello:
It is great a topic about Star Trek has been made. I can agree with most of what you have said here. I only have some few comments in some of them.

The Voyage Home, some hate that movie while others like it. To dismay of the haters, this movie is between the top favourite Trek movies. It was very enjoyable and had some very funny scenes.

The Final Frontier, well, you are not missing much if you don't see it. It was made with very low budget (since The Voyage Home didn't make much for acclaim in theaters like the first three were) and the plot had some issues. But it might have some interesting ideas behind it.

You should fully see First Contact, how the action started was great. I have the feeling you'll like it, I was so frakking (I know that is from BSG

) excited and nervous as I knew how powerful the Borg are from TNG.

I am glad you startd this topic, now that there are rumors of a second JJ-Trek film that will start been made. I just wish the Enterprise's bridge was not so glowy.

Kor · **Reply #2 on:** April 13, 2011, 09:47:47 PM

I like most of the original series movies I've seen. Though with the 5th movie I like an edited version I found years back. The main difference is it removes all mention of that bad guy being Spock's brother. & with the 2nd movie the ceti alpha, or whatever the planet is called, bugged me and I can't watch it. How could Kahn recognize Chekov when he was not on the enterprise yet. He wasn't on till season 2, and Space Seed was a season 1 episode. Makes it seem like quite a few folks didn't do their research.

I can see Chekov hearing of Kahn. Maybe the news got around. He may have heard someone or several someones talking about some past incidents that happened on the enterprise. I can see some stuff coming up. And he may have read some records or something.

Reminds me of someday, when I backup my video stuff on blu-ray, I'll want to start editing certain movies, like cutting out the whole Ceti (whatever) scene. most of lex luthor's scenes from the 1st superman movie, and some other movies.

I've not seen many of the next gen movies. Just first contact and the last one. I'm pretty burned out on the borg, like I am the cybermen & never liked the daleks.

F-14 Ace · **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2011, 10:29:30 PM

Hardcore Trekkies annoy me. I recently posted a comment on the trailer for the 2009 film on Youtube saying that I enjoyed the movie. Within minutes, I got a long, butthurt reply from some snot-nosed Trekkie calling me out for liking the movie, which he described as a travesty and basically called me an idiot for liking it.

He went on to ramble about the special effects, plot holes, lens flares, alternate time line, the USS Kelvin only having one warp nacelle, etc.

First, what was wrong with the special effects? I thought they were awesome?

Second, plot holes? Ya know, because we've never seen plot holes on a Star Trek film before have we?

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Third, I agree that the lens flares were annoying.

Forth, who cares about the previous time line? The movie is a freaking reboot.

Fifth... Really? He's gonna gripe about the Kelvin, the ship that literally gets blown up five minutes into the movie, only having one warp nacelle? Out of curiosity, I went and looked up the whole nacelle issue and found out that a while back, Gene Roddenberry made up some rule that starships had to have an even number of warp nacelles to go into warp. I also found that the only reason he made this rule was to discredit the Tech Manual (which had various ship designs with single and multiple warp nacelles) because he had a falling out with the author. But whatever the case, the rule is apparently irrelevant. There were a couple times in TNG where a ship with only one nacelle appeared, thus making them canon.

Frankly I liked the design of the USS Kelvin. It was something unique and different from what we've seen in other Trek movies. In fact, I kinda wish they would have made the movie about those guys instead of trying to do a reboot. I'd kinda like to see a Star Trek movie with all new characters instead of just the guys from the TV shows.

Dang, now I sound like a Trekkie.

f-22 "raptor" ace · **Reply #4 on:** April 21, 2011, 10:46:45 PM

I've seen a few of the movies and a few episodes of the show. As for my favorite movie it would have to be the new one.

Allicloud · **Reply #5 on:** April 24, 2011, 11:58:41 AM

Yeah, I've seen some of the films and TV series. It's pretty good stuff. Good fun sci fi action. I should probably get back into it. I know that you can get the original TV series on CBS action sometimes.

Oh, and yes, the Final Frontier is a pretty dumb one. Let's just say, at the end, they basically meet God.

Kor · **Reply #6 on:** April 24, 2011, 01:09:20 PM

Not god, more like satan. Like Kirk, I think it is, or was it someone else said, "What does god need with a starship."

Though it could have been a more evil member of one of the powerful alien species we've seen in the classic series, or the next gen if you want to add them in too, who may have imprisoned one of their members there, instead of bringing in god, satan, ect.

As for a trek movie with a different ship and all new characters, that would be cool, but the general movie going public, and many trekkers would not go to see it since it didn't have kirk, ect.

As for plot holes, and things in the plot that may make no sense, ect, lots of movies and tv series have that, unfortunately. Most are minor, but some are not.