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My own thoughts on kind of split. On one hand, I'm a fan of a long-running series of movie (Land Before Time). However, not every series that's lasted up to 10-15 sequels remained even decent after a certain. Now, I loved all three of the original Scream movies, however, and this is just my mileage: Scream > Scream 2 > Scream 3. On one hand, Craven and co will have had ten years to think this out, but on the other hand just what possible explanation for the killer can they come up with now?

Everyone involved with the events of the backstory who became a killer is dead and gone now.

Discuss. I will now bow out of the discussion and let you take it away.
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Well, there's the possibility that the killer's motive won't be connected to Sidney, Dewey, and Gale.

Also, from watching the main trailer, we can confirm one of the kills: Rebecca, the character who is listed as Sidney's assistant, is the one who falls on the news van during the police conference.


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Thank you, brek, and you make a good point. Hmm. Perhaps Billy's father since his son, ex-wife, and severnal others went to crazyville.
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Nah, I don't think they'll go down that road again IMO.


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I can live with that, but still... To me, at least, I kinda liked the Ghostface thing being connected, so hopefully they'll have a really good explanation. I'm holding for Sidney having develeoped a murderous split personality named Billy, and played Skeet Ulrich no less.

EDIT: And I somehow double posted accidentally. If it pleases the mods, could the first one be erased since it doesn't have what I added about actor Ulrich?
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That could happen, but I'm personally not a fan of the "killer is the main character with a split personality twist."

And Scream 3 was mainly about Sidney overcoming her fear/paranoia.


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Fair enough,but on the other hand, if it causes the return of Ulrich (one of the single best things about the series as a whole)...
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Well, I love the whodunnit aspect of Scream, and even if it caught me off guard, I wouldn't want the killer to be someone we haven't seen.

The one new character who I hope survives is the cop played by Marley Shelton, I like her as an actress.


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I could argue we've technically seen Billy before, but I get your point. I really hope they get this right and make it more in line with the tone of the original, because I can only say that I thougth the sequels were decent.
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There were some test screenings of Scream 4 today, and I read some spoiler free reviews.

The comments seem to be like this:

The acting was fairly good, on par with the series.

The opening kill rivals the original's.

Most reviews, even if they weren't that positive, called it better than Scream 3 and a few even said it was the best of all 3 sequels.

The general consensus in both positive and negative reviews is that the killer's motive in this one "rather stupid." (Sorry Raptor, no crazy Sidney or Billy or Stu returning.)

There's no real comment on however how surprised or not surprised they were when the killer was revealed, or how well the actor/actress who is the killer does when it's revealed that they are the killer.

It is agreed that it's the goriest film in the series.

Still, I'm really excited for the movie.


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I have seen Scream and I will say this, that movie does not want to make me see the other movies in the series.....the movie was just terrible in my opinion.

I got up to the point where the girl was running through that house on the set with the killer ater her before turning the movie off in shere bordem.  I'm sorry, but that movie just could not keep me interested long enough to watch it all the way through till the end.



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There seems to be the high possibility, from what I've read, that the final showdown takes place in a hospital.

Test screening reviews say the ending is "absolute insanity", in a positive fashion..


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For those interested in the movie:

Though it would be possible to look at what I'm about to tell you and say "that is made up", more likely than not, on the imdb Scream 4 page, the identity of the killer(s), who dies, and who lives has been given away, so don't do there if you don't want spoilers.


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Just got back for seeing the movie, and here is my review. SPOILERS INCLUDED:

Reviving a series after 10+ years can be tricky. After the Phantom Menace came out back in 1999, the Star Wars fandom was never the same. When Crystal Skull came out in 08, the internet has yet to stop making "nuke the fridge" and "aliens in Indiana Jones!" comments. Now, Wes Craven's popular slasher series has a sequel after 11 years. Does Scream 4 produce the same kind of reaction the aforementioned movies did?

No. In my opinion, Scream 4 is tied with, if not the best film in the series.

Though it's been a little over a decade, Sidney, Dewey, and Gale are still the same characters we know and love. Neve Campbell does great again as the lead, and gets the best "about to kill the killer line" in this one.

The new actors do fairly good jobs as well, Erik Knudsen (from Saw 2), Emma Roberts, Rory Culkin, and Hayden Pennitiere all giving nice performances. It's a shame none of their characters are alive to come back for a fifth film in Scream 4 does well enough.

I will agree with some other reviewers that there really wasn't any big chase scene in this, even part 3, regarded as the weakest, did have a big chase. The killings in this, unusual for a Scream movie, were more evenly spread throughout the movie, as opposed to saving most of them for towards the climax. This admittedly prevents a lot of the early-to-die characters from getting development.

Now, one thing anyone who followed articles on the movie will know, is that a LOT of scenes were cut. (Including scenes shown in the trailer, such as the new group of teens' conversation at the fountain.) Watching the movie, I could tell there was some things missing, but it didn't really bother me that much.

As for the killers themselves, they were quiet a mixed bag. Charlie (Rory Culkin), I admittedly figured out not too far in that he was one of the killers, did a good "Evil" job. Out of the 3 films in the series with 2 killers (1,2, and 4), he's the only accomplice killer that you really can feel bad for, because he did it out of love for Jill, and you really see how betrayed he feels when Jill stabs him in the back (by stabbing him in the front).

As for Jill....if Scream 4 ends up being the last movie, then I feel she's the perfect final bad guy in the franchise. She is, arguably, the most evil killer in the entire series. Literally doing every thing she did (including killer her own mother) just for fame makes the audience want to hate her, and a good portion of the audience (including myself and my friends who I was with), did some form of cheering when she got the defibrillator to the face followed by being shot in the chest to death.

As for a point some might argue, that it was cheap to have the main 3 live and have pretty much all of the entire new cast (except Marley Shelton as Deputy Hicks) die, I actually think it's quite fitting. Like the say, "The rules have changed. The unexpected is the new cliche." Having the main 3 die would, in this case, I'm sure in many viewer's minds, be the "expected." Having the new cast of teens become the focus of the franchise would be what was "expected." I think it was important to have Sidney, Gale, and Dewey survive again.

For my rating, I give Scream 4 a solid 9.6 out of 10.